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PeopleUnited
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2022 Mar 27, 7:03pm
PeopleUnited
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2022 Mar 27, 7:03pm
Some say abortion is evil, others say it is evil to limit the right to chose.
Some say sodomy is evil others say only evil bigots would even use the word sodomy.
Some say Putin and Hitler are evil, and others say Mao and Xe are good.
Some say vaccine choice is evil and others say forced vaccination is evil.
Some say bigotry is evil and others say people of color need extra help to become equal with whites.
Some say profit is evil and others say without profit there is no incentive for work or investment.
Some say slavery is evil but then fail to provide a living wage for people in their employ.
Some say tax evasion is evil but the go out of their way to avoid paying their fair share.
Some say censorship is evil but refuse to allow those with divergent opinions to work or have a platform.
Some say sodomy is evil others say only evil bigots would even use the word sodomy.
Some say Putin and Hitler are evil, and others say Mao and Xe are good.
Some say vaccine choice is evil and others say forced vaccination is evil.
Some say bigotry is evil and others say people of color need extra help to become equal with whites.
Some say profit is evil and others say without profit there is no incentive for work or investment.
Some say slavery is evil but then fail to provide a living wage for people in their employ.
Some say tax evasion is evil but the go out of their way to avoid paying their fair share.
Some say censorship is evil but refuse to allow those with divergent opinions to work or have a platform.
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Shaman
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2022 Mar 27, 7:32pm
Shaman
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2022 Mar 27, 7:32pm
Turn “evil” around and you have “live!”
So evil is the opposite of what it means to live.
If that’s having a second trimester abortion which kills an unborn human or if that’s taking advantage of a renter’s circumstance by doubling his rent and impoverishing his family, it’s against life, against what it means to live a good life. So it’s evil.
Jabbing a couple billion people with a serum that will kill them slowly is a whole different magnitude of evil. And forcing them to take the jab by withholding the means to feed their families is just evil squared!
These are evil times.
So evil is the opposite of what it means to live.
If that’s having a second trimester abortion which kills an unborn human or if that’s taking advantage of a renter’s circumstance by doubling his rent and impoverishing his family, it’s against life, against what it means to live a good life. So it’s evil.
Jabbing a couple billion people with a serum that will kill them slowly is a whole different magnitude of evil. And forcing them to take the jab by withholding the means to feed their families is just evil squared!
These are evil times.
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PeopleUnited
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2022 Mar 27, 8:09pm
PeopleUnited
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2022 Mar 27, 8:09pm
Well said Shaman. Your concept of life vs. evil is simple yet profound.
It does beg the question is war, or capital punishment evil?
And it does not answer perhaps the most important question where does evil originate?
It does beg the question is war, or capital punishment evil?
And it does not answer perhaps the most important question where does evil originate?
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fdhfoiehfeoi
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2022 Mar 28, 9:00am
fdhfoiehfeoi
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2022 Mar 28, 9:00am
Was discussing this over the weekend. Western culture doesn't understand the spiritual world the way most other cultures do. And in denying that reality, we overlook or fail to understand the ramifications of much of what is happening in our world.
If there is God, there must be Satan.
What I'm saying is the people aligned against us are controlled by more than just a lust for money or power. The root of things like Ukraine, Covid, BLM, etc is demonic, and destructive. To those who carry it out just as much as those who suffer under it.
If there is God, there must be Satan.
What I'm saying is the people aligned against us are controlled by more than just a lust for money or power. The root of things like Ukraine, Covid, BLM, etc is demonic, and destructive. To those who carry it out just as much as those who suffer under it.
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PeopleUnited
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2022 Mar 28, 8:26pm
PeopleUnited
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2022 Mar 28, 8:26pm
Well said, and might I add, if there is no God, there is no such thing as evil. Now you and I know better, but that is the point I am making. If we don’t understand where evil comes from, and recognize it when it rears it’s ugly head, then we are doomed.
And there are many subtleties at play in the evaluation of good and evil. Is Ukraine good and Putin/Russia evil? It’s not that simple is it? Is peace good and war evil? that is a false dichotomy. It life so precious that we must sacrifice liberty to save it? Perhaps, but not if the sacrifice is involuntary.
And there are many subtleties at play in the evaluation of good and evil. Is Ukraine good and Putin/Russia evil? It’s not that simple is it? Is peace good and war evil? that is a false dichotomy. It life so precious that we must sacrifice liberty to save it? Perhaps, but not if the sacrifice is involuntary.
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Maga_Chaos_Monkey
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2022 Mar 28, 8:47pm
Maga_Chaos_Monkey
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2022 Mar 28, 8:47pm
PeopleUnited says
I've fucked well over 100 women. I was somewhere around 119 I think about 10 years ago when I still lived in the bay area. I lost count down here in SD.
Never once had to deal with an abortion.
Knocked a chick up in my 20s from Louisiana lol. Fortunately, "The Louisiana Fruit Fly", had a miscarriage or I would have been in a world of shit. Last count 7 baby daddies after me.
Pretty fucking evil killing helpless kids. Not to mention the shit the labs do with the parts.
Some say abortion is evil, others say it is evil to limit the right to chose.
I've fucked well over 100 women. I was somewhere around 119 I think about 10 years ago when I still lived in the bay area. I lost count down here in SD.
Never once had to deal with an abortion.
Knocked a chick up in my 20s from Louisiana lol. Fortunately, "The Louisiana Fruit Fly", had a miscarriage or I would have been in a world of shit. Last count 7 baby daddies after me.
Pretty fucking evil killing helpless kids. Not to mention the shit the labs do with the parts.
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Patrick
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2022 Mar 28, 9:07pm
Patrick
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2022 Mar 28, 9:07pm
Good and evil are relationships. Good and evil do not exist unless others exist.
We feel the difference between good and evil. Our crimes accuse us even when buried under the floorboards, as in "The Telltale Heart" by Edgar Allan Poe.
There are no evil people distinctly separate from everyone else.
"If only it were all so simple. If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?" - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
Yet some people are better than others.
We feel the difference between good and evil. Our crimes accuse us even when buried under the floorboards, as in "The Telltale Heart" by Edgar Allan Poe.
There are no evil people distinctly separate from everyone else.
"If only it were all so simple. If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?" - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
Yet some people are better than others.
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richwicks
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2022 Mar 29, 2:42am
richwicks
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2022 Mar 29, 2:42am
I'll give you a definition of evil.
Hypocrisy I think is one of the greatest evils. Having an undefined set of rules which are arbitrarily enforced is the foundation of evil. If it's evil for you to kill me, but acceptable for me to kill you, that's evil. If I can steal from you, but you cannot steal from me, that's evil. If a corporation can evade taxes legally but you cannot, that's evil. If a black man must sit on the back of the bus, but you can sit anywhere, that's evil. If Hillary Clinton can take home classified documents, place them on a computer that is unsecured, and allow people to buy access to that machine without consequence but Kristian Saucier cannot take a photograph of the interior or a sub, innocently, that's evil. If Hunter Biden can do crack cocaine and engage in prostitution without consequence but an inner city man gets a prison sentence for the same thing, it's evil. If the United States can bomb 7 nations over 20 years without anybody complaining about it, but when Russia bombs Ukraine and is condemned by the world for it, that's evil.
I think hypocrisy is basically the definition of evil.
I think any evil can be traced by to hypocrisy. Dual standards are the basis for evil.
Hypocrisy I think is one of the greatest evils. Having an undefined set of rules which are arbitrarily enforced is the foundation of evil. If it's evil for you to kill me, but acceptable for me to kill you, that's evil. If I can steal from you, but you cannot steal from me, that's evil. If a corporation can evade taxes legally but you cannot, that's evil. If a black man must sit on the back of the bus, but you can sit anywhere, that's evil. If Hillary Clinton can take home classified documents, place them on a computer that is unsecured, and allow people to buy access to that machine without consequence but Kristian Saucier cannot take a photograph of the interior or a sub, innocently, that's evil. If Hunter Biden can do crack cocaine and engage in prostitution without consequence but an inner city man gets a prison sentence for the same thing, it's evil. If the United States can bomb 7 nations over 20 years without anybody complaining about it, but when Russia bombs Ukraine and is condemned by the world for it, that's evil.
I think hypocrisy is basically the definition of evil.
I think any evil can be traced by to hypocrisy. Dual standards are the basis for evil.
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FuckTheMainstreamMedia
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2022 Mar 29, 5:01am
FuckTheMainstreamMedia
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2022 Mar 29, 5:01am
If you are looking at modern US society, it’s primarily leftists that are dominate and evil.
Just a simple premise, but leftists are entirely about government control of population. This is very different from liberals who want some government control for what they believe are altruistic intentions.
Leftists have no bounds on measures to gain that control. Richwicks partially hits on the root of the problem with the hypocrisy notion. I’d say it goes a bit further into value system. Simply put, for ardent leftists, there is no constant value system. Chief among this is truth. Leftists do not hold truth to be a value. So lying rapidly becomes second nature to them and you get ridiculous shit like feigning that one can’t define what a “woman” is.
In 1984, the truth was whatever the government decided it to be. It is truly sad that there are evil people in our society and government who decided that’s a good thing.
Just a simple premise, but leftists are entirely about government control of population. This is very different from liberals who want some government control for what they believe are altruistic intentions.
Leftists have no bounds on measures to gain that control. Richwicks partially hits on the root of the problem with the hypocrisy notion. I’d say it goes a bit further into value system. Simply put, for ardent leftists, there is no constant value system. Chief among this is truth. Leftists do not hold truth to be a value. So lying rapidly becomes second nature to them and you get ridiculous shit like feigning that one can’t define what a “woman” is.
In 1984, the truth was whatever the government decided it to be. It is truly sad that there are evil people in our society and government who decided that’s a good thing.
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Now to be clear, I’m not saying women are evil, nor that ignorance is evil. But false testimony is certainly evil and so her performance was a clear representation of the fact that she is under the influence of evil, if not wholly given over to that evil.
But it got me thinking, if we live in a world where Supreme Court nominees are giving false testimony (she knows damn well what a women is and therefore she is a liar of the most despicable type, lying about a universally known truth) and not dismissed immediately for their false testimony, then what other perversions are accepted in our culture? And in fact, if giving false testimony is acceptable, has the concept of evil lost its meaning just like the rainbow?
For those ignorant of the meaning of the rainbow, look it up. But we cannot continue as a nation or even as a species if we cannot define and reasonably agree on what evil is. Read the Declaration of Independence and our other founding documents and you will see evil defined, not like a dictionary definition but rather a clear set of shared values, things permitted and things prohibited in the interest of preserving life, liberty, and property.
But over time, indoctrination has changed peoples perception and understanding of what evil is, to the point that what was once universally understood as evil is now celebrated, and what was once valued as good is reviled.
Is anyone else noticing this? Is anyone even able to distinguish between good and evil anymore, and if not how can we continue as a culture or society?
What is evil? Can anyone give a reasonable defense and definition of the concept? Can you give real world examples? Who has wisdom here?
This is a challenge to anyone to speak to one of the most basic concepts of humanity. The concept of evil, what it is, what it isn’t, where it comes from is wrapped up in what it means to be a human and without the concept of evil I would argue that there can be no culture and no hope for the future. Without the concept of evil there is no need for society or culture or life itself because without evil, there is nothing wrong, nothing to weep over, and nothing to defend yourself or your society against. And if there is no definition of evil why do we need rules, wars, or judges? We need to get the concept of evil right or we are doomed.
Don’t you agree?