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Ceffer
2022 Mar 29, 7:53am
Ceffer
2022 Mar 29, 7:53am
I have a friend in Santa Cruz who uses one. Not exactly a roll cage vehicle. I have been on it a couple of times going to the beach with our surfboards, and he has nearly tossed me out of it going around corners before I got my seat belt on. I would never put children or even guests in one of those things. I would also never think about using one of those for off road. They are pretty fragile low velocity vehicles, meaning, real low speed, but the temptation to push them up to 25mph or so on open roads is high. 25mph rollovers, crashes, and just plain flinging things off during turns make them accidents waiting to happen. Handling is not their strong suit. People try to drive them like cars rather than ticky tacky little things they are. Their handling characteristics aren't car-like, but tend to be too quick and kind of eccentric.
Also, my friend seems to have had a lot of various kinds of damages to his because they seem to be accident prone. He's hit car doors and mirrors, and most recently, he was at an intersection in early morning at a railroad crossing in the dark while going surfing. Headlights were in his eyes, so he ran into the railroad crossing. They are now wrangling who is at fault and who pays for the crossing damage.
Also, my friend seems to have had a lot of various kinds of damages to his because they seem to be accident prone. He's hit car doors and mirrors, and most recently, he was at an intersection in early morning at a railroad crossing in the dark while going surfing. Headlights were in his eyes, so he ran into the railroad crossing. They are now wrangling who is at fault and who pays for the crossing damage.
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WookieMan
2022 Mar 29, 8:56am
WookieMan
2022 Mar 29, 8:56am
Ceffer says
Lol. Sounds like your friend might be a bad driver, drinking or high. Not a judgement as I don't know him. Any off roading would be midwest, so mainly flat and level. Golf carts are theoretically off road vehicles. I just want to make it look less gay to be honest, plus my trailer has a steep angle and the undercarriage hits when getting it on (lol) the ramp.
We can drive pretty much anything on the road here with the PD approval and register with them. Minimal traffic and if I lift it I can always drive onto the parkway if shit hits the fan. 25mph tops. I'm a golfer and pretty conservative with driving and understand the shortcomings of golf carts. No intentions of rolling it or hitting stuff.
Also, my friend seems to have had a lot of various kinds of damages to his because they seem to be accident prone. He's hit car doors and mirrors, and most recently, he was at an intersection in early morning at a railroad crossing in the dark while going surfing. Headlights were in his eyes, so he ran into the railroad crossing. They are now wrangling who is at fault and who pays for the crossing damage.
Lol. Sounds like your friend might be a bad driver, drinking or high. Not a judgement as I don't know him. Any off roading would be midwest, so mainly flat and level. Golf carts are theoretically off road vehicles. I just want to make it look less gay to be honest, plus my trailer has a steep angle and the undercarriage hits when getting it on (lol) the ramp.
We can drive pretty much anything on the road here with the PD approval and register with them. Minimal traffic and if I lift it I can always drive onto the parkway if shit hits the fan. 25mph tops. I'm a golfer and pretty conservative with driving and understand the shortcomings of golf carts. No intentions of rolling it or hitting stuff.
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rocketjoe79
2022 Mar 29, 9:08am
rocketjoe79
2022 Mar 29, 9:08am
I have a Yamaha 2016 model, the first year for AC drives. AC goes up hills without bogging down like DC drives.
I love Yamaha because they are larger in the cockpit than all the others.
Tips:
1. Lithium is cool, but remember you lose about 300 lbs of Lead Weight down low that really helps the CG. Lift kits make the problem worse.
2. Watch Slopes, ESPECIALLY WHEN WET. I have spun out several times!
3. You can get another 2 years from Lead-acid batteries by driving over very rough terrain for ten minutes. Bouncing hard shakes the goo film off the plates.
4. NEVER add water to Lead Acid after a round of golf or long use. ADD ONLY AFTER CHARGING. They don't tell you this because they want to sell ya more batteries.
I love Yamaha because they are larger in the cockpit than all the others.
Tips:
1. Lithium is cool, but remember you lose about 300 lbs of Lead Weight down low that really helps the CG. Lift kits make the problem worse.
2. Watch Slopes, ESPECIALLY WHEN WET. I have spun out several times!
3. You can get another 2 years from Lead-acid batteries by driving over very rough terrain for ten minutes. Bouncing hard shakes the goo film off the plates.
4. NEVER add water to Lead Acid after a round of golf or long use. ADD ONLY AFTER CHARGING. They don't tell you this because they want to sell ya more batteries.
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Ceffer
2022 Mar 29, 9:27am
Ceffer
2022 Mar 29, 9:27am
WookieMan says
He barely drinks and uses THC once in a while to sleep. Let us know how it turns out.
Lol. Sounds like your friend might be a bad driver, drinking or high.
He barely drinks and uses THC once in a while to sleep. Let us know how it turns out.
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komputodo
2022 Mar 29, 10:25am
komputodo
2022 Mar 29, 10:25am
Those carts are made for maneuverability in tight spots so they have a tight turn radius which is fine at low speeds but dangerous at high speeds. You should restrict the turn radius which would be simple and I would think it would be a lot safer...less prone to flipping and throwing off passengers and cargo.
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WookieMan
2022 Mar 29, 1:54pm
WookieMan
2022 Mar 29, 1:54pm
komputodo says
Sorry, going to be direct. Who the fuck flips a golf cart??? I've been driving them since I was 10. Are people really that reckless? I know there are morons out there. My nephew crashed one at a Michigan country club but he was 9. I'm upgrading this to be more A to B and add a "little" fun to the drive. Remember I'm in the midwest. Little stuff you can get into really.
Those carts are made for maneuverability in tight spots so they have a tight turn radius which is fine at low speeds but dangerous at high speeds. You should restrict the turn radius which would be simple and I would think it would be a lot safer...less prone to flipping and throwing off passengers and cargo.
Sorry, going to be direct. Who the fuck flips a golf cart??? I've been driving them since I was 10. Are people really that reckless? I know there are morons out there. My nephew crashed one at a Michigan country club but he was 9. I'm upgrading this to be more A to B and add a "little" fun to the drive. Remember I'm in the midwest. Little stuff you can get into really.
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komputodo
2022 Mar 29, 2:15pm
komputodo
2022 Mar 29, 2:15pm
WookieMan says
probably the same people who flip a car..remember the ford bronco II and the early ford explorer?
Who the fuck flips a golf cart???
probably the same people who flip a car..remember the ford bronco II and the early ford explorer?
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Eman
2022 Mar 29, 3:46pm
Eman
2022 Mar 29, 3:46pm
WookieMan says
You have just described a Tesla, but the Tesla has a lot more power. That instant torque from electric is a pure joy to drive.
It's electric and batteries need replacement. I'm going lithium... holy fuck $$$, but it's maintenance free, better power
You have just described a Tesla, but the Tesla has a lot more power. That instant torque from electric is a pure joy to drive.
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Booger
2022 Mar 29, 5:00pm
Booger
2022 Mar 29, 5:00pm
Why do the batteries have to be Lithium?
Can't you run to Costco and pick up a bunch of AGM car batteries?
Can't you run to Costco and pick up a bunch of AGM car batteries?
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RWSGFY
2022 Mar 29, 5:39pm
RWSGFY
2022 Mar 29, 5:39pm
What happens if some idiot plows into you on the street? These things have no crash protection whatsoever.
I can understand using them where regular cars can't go (golf courses, place like The Villages, etc), but on the road.... Nah!
I can understand using them where regular cars can't go (golf courses, place like The Villages, etc), but on the road.... Nah!
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WookieMan
2022 Mar 29, 7:06pm
WookieMan
2022 Mar 29, 7:06pm
RWSGFY says
I'm in the country. Literally about 20 N/S/E/W streets. Cars are hard pressed to even hit 25. No curbs so I can just drive off the road if needed. Hasn't been an accident I've heard of in a decade since I've been here with carts or UTV's.
Anything is possible. An idiot plowed into my mom's parked car in front of her house (driveway) a couple months back (she was inside the house). Car was totaled. Car actually saved her from having the house destroyed. I don't live life that way though. It's less risky than a motorcycle for sure in town. Up in Wisconsin it would just be stupidity on the trails that gets me in trouble. I may say stupid shit, but I don't act it out. I'm extremely conservative in the real world.
Booger says
Lighter. No maintenance. Better power. The reason I have to replace them anyway is because my mom didn't take care of the lead acid batteries. I've got three kids. Work. I know myself. I'm not going to maintain batteries properly. At the stage in life where I'm doing it once and that's it. I'm not hiring people and will pay money for convenience.
I can understand using them where regular cars can't go (golf courses, place like The Villages, etc), but on the road.... Nah!
I'm in the country. Literally about 20 N/S/E/W streets. Cars are hard pressed to even hit 25. No curbs so I can just drive off the road if needed. Hasn't been an accident I've heard of in a decade since I've been here with carts or UTV's.
Anything is possible. An idiot plowed into my mom's parked car in front of her house (driveway) a couple months back (she was inside the house). Car was totaled. Car actually saved her from having the house destroyed. I don't live life that way though. It's less risky than a motorcycle for sure in town. Up in Wisconsin it would just be stupidity on the trails that gets me in trouble. I may say stupid shit, but I don't act it out. I'm extremely conservative in the real world.
Booger says
Why do the batteries have to be Lithium?
Lighter. No maintenance. Better power. The reason I have to replace them anyway is because my mom didn't take care of the lead acid batteries. I've got three kids. Work. I know myself. I'm not going to maintain batteries properly. At the stage in life where I'm doing it once and that's it. I'm not hiring people and will pay money for convenience.
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richwicks
2022 Mar 29, 8:41pm
richwicks
2022 Mar 29, 8:41pm
Ceffer says
I must be a mutant. When I use THC, I have to read / work / think / or go for a walk. I cannot sleep. Pretty rare I use it now though.
He barely drinks and uses THC once in a while to sleep.
I must be a mutant. When I use THC, I have to read / work / think / or go for a walk. I cannot sleep. Pretty rare I use it now though.
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WookieMan
2022 Mar 29, 9:22pm
WookieMan
2022 Mar 29, 9:22pm
richwicks says
Depends on the time of day for me. I just took some and it's making me sleepy for sure. But my nephew was up all night coughing and I couldn't sleep and my son woke my ass up. I generally only get 4 hours of sleep as witnessed here. I've been getting closer to 6 hours now since I went heavy on edibles about 2-3 months ago. My tolerance is building though, so it has been less effective.
If I use during the day it's fun. With kids though I don't like being that way, though I suppose it's better than alcohol. I'd agree that it can motivate you. Wife is traveling so I only do it when the kids are sleeping. Recently walked 5 miles jamming out to Swedish prog metal on a somewhat warm IL day. Walked every street in town. Can't do it driving though. I can have a couple beers and drive, but as a text book alcoholic (3 beers a day) I've yet to run into the law. I'm also tall and have 218lbs of man to soak it up, so it's hard to get hammered on a couple light beers.
I'm digging edibles though for sure and I have a source now that has top notch stuff (yes legal in IL, but expensive from the dispensary). Former neighbor who is a lesbian. She's the dude in the relationship, but a super sweet girl. I ate one of her cookies and I was high for 16 hours. It was mellow though. I only started panicking when I thought I'd be high forever. lol. My anxiety and anger is down significantly too.
Classic patnet. Golf carts turn into a marijuana thread... lol. Not upset, it's why I keep coming here. Not gonna lie I'm super stoned right now though.
I must be a mutant. When I use THC, I have to read / work / think / or go for a walk. I cannot sleep. Pretty rare I use it now though.
Depends on the time of day for me. I just took some and it's making me sleepy for sure. But my nephew was up all night coughing and I couldn't sleep and my son woke my ass up. I generally only get 4 hours of sleep as witnessed here. I've been getting closer to 6 hours now since I went heavy on edibles about 2-3 months ago. My tolerance is building though, so it has been less effective.
If I use during the day it's fun. With kids though I don't like being that way, though I suppose it's better than alcohol. I'd agree that it can motivate you. Wife is traveling so I only do it when the kids are sleeping. Recently walked 5 miles jamming out to Swedish prog metal on a somewhat warm IL day. Walked every street in town. Can't do it driving though. I can have a couple beers and drive, but as a text book alcoholic (3 beers a day) I've yet to run into the law. I'm also tall and have 218lbs of man to soak it up, so it's hard to get hammered on a couple light beers.
I'm digging edibles though for sure and I have a source now that has top notch stuff (yes legal in IL, but expensive from the dispensary). Former neighbor who is a lesbian. She's the dude in the relationship, but a super sweet girl. I ate one of her cookies and I was high for 16 hours. It was mellow though. I only started panicking when I thought I'd be high forever. lol. My anxiety and anger is down significantly too.
Classic patnet. Golf carts turn into a marijuana thread... lol. Not upset, it's why I keep coming here. Not gonna lie I'm super stoned right now though.
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rocketjoe79
2022 Mar 30, 10:21am
rocketjoe79
2022 Mar 30, 10:21am
WookieMan says
RWSGFY saysI can understand using them where regular cars can't go (golf courses, place like The Villages, etc), but on the road.... Nah!
I'm in the country. Literally about 20 N/S/E/W streets. Cars are hard pressed to even hit 25. No curbs so I can just drive off the road if needed. Hasn't been an accident I've heard of in a decade since I've been here with carts or UTV's.
Anything is possible. An idiot plowed into my mom's parked car in front of her house (driveway) a couple months back (she was inside the house). Car was totaled. Car actually saved her from having the house destroyed. I don't live life that way though. It's less risky than a motorcycle for sure in town. Up in Wisconsin it would just be stupidity on the trails that gets me in trouble. I may say stupid shit, but I don't act it out. I'm extremely conservative in the real world.
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Ceffer
2022 Mar 30, 10:39am
Ceffer
2022 Mar 30, 10:39am
I used to wonder in Santa Cruz why all of those bicycles wobbling around with tourists and fat people didn't have accidents. Then, I went to the police report page, and there were large numbers of bicycle accidents reported all over Santa Cruz dotting along every major intersection, incidents of people being pushed off and bicycles stolen, even some fatalities.
Just because you 'never heard' of accidents or witnessed them yourself doesn't mean they don't happen. You need to spend time in the local emergency rooms, or check more detailed police reports. In emergency rooms, you'll see all kinds of bad things happening all the time that are never reported. A lot of tragedy is simply funneled into the societal denial system and scrubbed out. If you aren't on the front lines, you may think it never or seldom happens. People only tend to become aware when stuff becomes so extreme it 'spills over' the retaining walls of social hygiene.
I remember years ago the New Yorker had an article about alcoholism and why the Europeans seemed to have it 'under control'. When they went to the police stations and emergency rooms, they found rampant alcohol related problems, domestic incidents, fatalities, arrests, etc. the Europeans just acculturated the morbidity and swept it under the carpet as soon as it happened for the most part.
Just because you 'never heard' of accidents or witnessed them yourself doesn't mean they don't happen. You need to spend time in the local emergency rooms, or check more detailed police reports. In emergency rooms, you'll see all kinds of bad things happening all the time that are never reported. A lot of tragedy is simply funneled into the societal denial system and scrubbed out. If you aren't on the front lines, you may think it never or seldom happens. People only tend to become aware when stuff becomes so extreme it 'spills over' the retaining walls of social hygiene.
I remember years ago the New Yorker had an article about alcoholism and why the Europeans seemed to have it 'under control'. When they went to the police stations and emergency rooms, they found rampant alcohol related problems, domestic incidents, fatalities, arrests, etc. the Europeans just acculturated the morbidity and swept it under the carpet as soon as it happened for the most part.
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zzyzzx
2022 Mar 30, 11:41am
zzyzzx
2022 Mar 30, 11:41am
WookieMan says
Regular AGM batteries will be much cheaper then lithium, require little maintenance, and won't catch on fire like Lithium batteries can.
Lighter. No maintenance. Better power. The reason I have to replace them anyway is because my mom didn't take care of the lead acid batteries. I've got three kids. Work. I know myself. I'm not going to maintain batteries properly. At the stage in life where I'm doing it once and that's it. I'm not hiring people and will pay money for convenience.
Regular AGM batteries will be much cheaper then lithium, require little maintenance, and won't catch on fire like Lithium batteries can.
I know there are forums as well, but figured I ask here first. Also change up the topics if anyone has info. My guess is with most of you being in CA there are some ridiculous restrictions on golf carts. They're street legal in my town, but I also want to take it up to Wisconsin and other places in the Midwest.
It's electric and batteries need replacement. I'm going lithium... holy fuck $$$, but it's maintenance free, better power and lighter. I was thinking of lifting it and get more off road tires since it's electric and it will be relatively quiet on the street with no ICE. I know I'm in for $2,500-3k on the batteries. Was hoping to keep the mod budget under $1-2k besides batteries. I should be able to get 30-40 miles off the batteries I'm looking at. Less off road I imagine. Not crazy off roading either, Wisconsin has a network of UTV/ATV/Snowmobile trails that are pretty smooth.
It has a rear seat for the kiddos (for now) before they can't sit 3 wide. Flips flat and it's like a flat truck bed type set up where I can put coolers if it's only the wife and I. My mom closed the business after my dad passed in 2019 and just gave it to me. It will be 90% for street use tooling around town in the warm months. Does have a front windshield already. Headlight and the amber running lights, but no control for turn signal (need it to make street legal).
So my first EV is going to be a golf cart.... lol..