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2022 Apr 21, 7:16am 9,658 views 147 comments

I feel sorry for men today who have to go into the dating market and meet the modern feminist woman (of which the majority of young women under 30 fall into).

The modern woman believes they deserve everything, and don't need to provide anything, they just need to "exist".

Modern women are not very feminine. A lot of them talk and act like dudes. God help you if they make more money than you. They will make sure to "show their dick" any chance they get.

Modern women don't believe they need to be physically fit (a lot of these liberal women are overweight, if not outright obese). Once they have a kid or two, they usually pack on 50 pounds, and BLAME YOU for it.

Modern women think that having a Master's degree or PhD makes them more "valuable" on the sexual market place (it doesn't, it actually makes them LESS attractive since these women tend to be more disagreeable, snobby, and insufferable to talk to).

Modern women are usually feminist. They don't care about you as a man or a partner, they see you as a pool of resources to use for her purposes. To pay for her lifestyle, to support her kids, to pay her bills. They don't want to work, they are perfectly happy to stay at home, enjoy a stress free lifestyle at YOUR expense.

The worst part of it, overwhelmingly, the majority of divorces in the United States are initiated by women (over 70%). So when things are going 99% perfect for them, they will be happy to spend your money, live in your house, and MAYBE provide you with sexual pleasure once a week tops. But you ever slip up, or things are getting a little rough, they will without hesitation divorce you, take half your net worth, and put you on the hook for child support, and alimony for years to come.

I'm not saying I'm an official member of the MGTOW movement (since I am married to a non-modern woman, very happily I might add), but I believe younger men need to be very careful about who they date, and who they commit to. Men need to realize their self worth, and realize that as you grow older, your value actually goes up. For women, it's the exact opposite (their value tends to drop more and more as they age, and exponentially after the age of 30 and they get closer to "the wall").

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Goran_K 2022 Apr 21, 7:40am

RWSGFY says

Why are "women who earn more than you" and "women who want to stay home and do nothing" lumped together as one of the same? =))

They are the same in their toxic attitudes.

If they stay home and do nothing, it's okay and expected. You're "the man" so you should go out and support the household (despite third wave feminist claiming "we don't need no man, we are strong and independent").

If they make MORE than you, then that's when they pull their feminist dick out. They will treat you as a side kick, make sure you act like a "second fiddle", and make sure you know that they are the alpha, and you are the beta (which to be honest is okay for some beta males).

Basically these modern feminist women will tweak their value system depending on how it benefits them, they don't have any real foundational system besides their own self interest.

Goran_K 2022 Apr 21, 7:51am

RWSGFY says

Why is a guy earning "high 6 figures" renting "a shitty appt in Vegas"? Could easily rent a nice house.

Easy.

$4,500 mortgage/utilities/property tax/insurance/car payment/etc. Another $3,000 in court ordered support. Remember, this is all AFTER tax.

Now let's say you make $13,000 a month gross. After taxes, you're basically taking home $9,600 a month net. That leaves you with about $2,100 net after paying to maintain the other household. Now in Las Vegas, when I left, the average rent for a shitty roach apartment was around $1,200 to $1,400 in North Las Vegas. Leaving about $700 to $900 left for everything else.

Yeah, it can get that bad.

RWSGFY 2022 Apr 21, 7:57am

"$13,000 a month gross"
is not "high six figures". =)) It's rather low six figures.

Goran_K 2022 Apr 21, 8:04am

RWSGFY says

"$13,000 a month gross"
is not "high six figures". =)) It's rather low six figures.

Okay, he made more than double the average tax filer in Nevada. :)

Much, much more now.

GNL 2022 Apr 21, 8:44am

So, high 6 figure salary is less than 200k? I was assuming high 6 figures would be 600k or more. Anyway, he should have never let her kick him out of the house. Stupid.

Stop being a pussy and make her life a living hell. It's doable. Women get bored and need to be metaphorically slapped around a little from time to time. Might be how the whore fell out of love with him. Sounds weird, I know.

Goran_K 2022 Apr 21, 8:58am

WineHorror1 says

So, high 6 figure salary is less than 200k? I was assuming high 6 figures would be 600k or more.

I find that most people for a w2 normal job top out around $300k to $350k a year with some rare exceptions (like Ortho surgeons, Corporate lawyer with Morrison Foester, etc). I've never heard of any w2 person making $600,000/annual. Even in my former field the typical VP salary at Goldman Sachs was probably around $160,000 to $175,000 with some rare superstars breaking $250,000 on occasion. But I haven't had a w2 job in many years so maybe my data is outdated.

WineHorror1 says

Anyway, he should have never let her kick him out of the house. Stupid.

Yeah, but then what are his options? Sell the house, split the profits, and now where is his daughter going to live?

FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut 2022 Apr 21, 9:40am

I've worked with feminist, modern type in past year. Fucking nightmare. Bitch was constantly offended, fucking constantly, and constantly on offensive about it with idiotic questions like "Do you think all women are like that? You don't think a woman can do it?". Not playful questions, but offended questions, ready to pounce on your throat. One day got so annoyed, told her to "cool that fucking misandry", best I could come up with in anger. We never spoke after that. It's like bitch, the more of a bitch you are, the less I want to work with you or ever help you. They have no fucking clue, they think being a bitch gets them ahead or something. In reality, I mentally hope to never work with that nut job again.

FarmersWon 2022 Apr 21, 9:42am

Goran_K says

I feel sorry for men today who have to go into the dating market and meet the modern feminist woman (of which the majority of young women under 30 fall into).

The modern woman believes they deserve everything, and don't need to provide anything, they just need to "exist".

Modern women are not very feminine. A lot of them talk and act like dudes. God help you if they make more money than you. They will make sure to "show their dick" any chance they get.

Modern women don't believe they need to be physically fit (a lot of these liberal women are overweight, if not outright obese). Once they have a kid or two, they usually pack on 50 pounds, and BLAME YOU for it.

Modern women think that having a Master's degree or PhD makes them more "valuable" on the sexual market place (it doesn't, it actually makes them LESS attractive since these women tend to be more disagreeable, snobby, ...

Shesshhhh.
This may be used as advertisement for Gay lifestyle.. Why need a woman when you can have man...

Goran_K 2022 Apr 21, 10:01am

FarmersWon says

This may be used as advertisement for Gay lifestyle.. Why need a woman when you can have man...

or... and maybe I'm wrong here... try to find a woman with traditional values who is more focused on being a wife instead of a feminist?

FarmersWon 2022 Apr 21, 10:22am

Goran_K says

The modern woman believes they deserve everything, and don't need to provide anything, they just need to "exist".

Modern women are not very feminine. A lot of them talk and act like dudes. God help you if they make more money than you. They will make sure to "show their dick" any chance they get.

This shows that modern women are feminist and hard to find traditional one as per your own statement.
Now if not found, what you do:
gay
dolls like RIN
celibacy
...

Only gay seems to be real human option... Nice advertisement for "GAY RULES THE WORLD".

FarmersWon 2022 Apr 21, 10:28am

GAY advertisement " feminists are problem" and 2x more divorces when two women and involved vs two men.
In the end this world is going to dogs and I wouln't be surprised if we again go back to 1950s .. with some problems of "pigy men" resolved but still traditional families.
Every action has reaction and pendulum tends to swing too far in each direction.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divorce_of_same-sex_couples?source=patrick.net
United Kingdom

The divorce rate of same-sex couples within 29 months of the introduction of legally binding civil partnerships was slightly less than one percent in the United Kingdom.[19]

As of 2013, lesbian couples were twice as likely to initiate actions to end legally recognized partnerships as compared to gay men.[20] In 2016, married female couples were approximately 2.5 times more likely to divorce than male couples.[21]

GNL 2022 Apr 21, 10:29am

Goran_K says

WineHorror1 says
So, high 6 figure salary is less than 200k? I was assuming high 6 figures would be 600k or more.

I find that most people for a w2 normal job top out around $300k to $350k a year with some rare exceptions (like Ortho surgeons, Corporate lawyer with Morrison Foester, etc). I've never heard of any w2 person making $600,000/annual. Even in my former field the typical VP salary at Goldman Sachs was probably around $160,000 to $175,000 with some rare superstars breaking $250,000 on occasion. But I haven't had a w2 job in many years so maybe my data is outdated.

WineHorror1 says
Anyway, he should have never let her kick him out of the house. Stupid.

Yeah, but then what are his options? Sell the house, split the profits, and now where is his daughter going to live?

A divorce lawyer will tell you not to leave the house.

What does high 6 figure mean then? 6 figures goes all the way up to 999,999.

Ceffer 2022 Apr 21, 10:31am

Is this another RealDoll advertisement?

Patrick 2022 Apr 21, 10:31am

RWSGFY says

"$13,000 a month gross"
is not "high six figures". =)) It's rather low six figures.

BTW, this is the millionth comment on patrick.net.

Goran_K 2022 Apr 21, 10:39am

Patrick says

RWSGFY says
"$13,000 a month gross"
is not "high six figures". =)) It's rather low six figures.

BTW, this is the millionth comment on patrick.net.

I’m just glad it happened in a Goran thread.

Eric Holder 2022 Apr 21, 10:52am

Goran_K says

RWSGFY says
Why are "women who earn more than you" and "women who want to stay home and do nothing" lumped together as one of the same? =))

They are the same in their toxic attitudes.

I don't think attitudes of feminist women who earn less then you but don't want to stay home and do nothing are less toxic. So income classification makes not much sense here.

RWSGFY 2022 Apr 21, 10:53am

Patrick says

RWSGFY says
"$13,000 a month gross"
is not "high six figures". =)) It's rather low six figures.

BTW, this is the millionth comment on patrick.net.

Yay!

Rin 2022 Apr 21, 11:11am

FarmersWon says

dolls like RIN

See here ...

https://patrick.net/post/1344606/2022-04-14-two-years-since-rin-has-only-been-pokin

BTW, I've saved tons of money by not dating & not seeing hoes during the pandemic, despite the fact that I can expense most lodging and travel costs.

Goran_K 2022 Apr 21, 1:42pm

FarmersWon says

gay
dolls like RIN
celibacy

I do think AI sexbots will eventually be the next big market.

Rin 2022 Apr 21, 1:47pm

Goran_K says

I do think AI sexbots will eventually be the next big market.

Remember my whole piece on Rin Wah Law being the Code of Hammurabi (for ancient times) & Magna Carta (for medieval times) but for the Information Age?

https://patrick.net/post/1317336/2018-07-10-in-the-ancient-world-code-of-hammurabi-

Goran_K 2022 Apr 21, 2:07pm

Rin says

Remember my whole piece on Rin Wah Law being the Code of Hammurabi (for ancient times) & Magna Carta (for medieval times) but for the Information Age?

https://patrick.net/post/1317336/2018-07-10-in-the-ancient-world-code-of-hammurabi-

So Rin, how are they going to make sex bots believable?

For instance every woman has some bitchiness and resistance when it comes to requests. The amount varies by individual obviously, but it's all part of the package. Like would a sex bot say "I'm tired, can we just do missionary quickly?" when the user ask for "Doggy style"?

I feel this is important because if the sex bot is too compliant, it may destroy the illusion, which in turn decreases overall sexual immersion.

25 clambo 2022 Apr 21, 2:11pm

The first post may have neglected to mention that females 1. spend too much 2. drink too much 3. are lazy.
They still want to get married, although 70% of divorces are initiated by the female.
My strategy is get married (maybe) in a few years, for several reasons.

Rin 2022 Apr 21, 3:02pm

Goran_K says

I feel this is important because if the sex bot is too compliant, it may destroy the illusion, which in turn decreases overall sexual immersion.

It's called a fuzzy logic controller ...

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/f/fuzzy-logic.asp?source=patrick.net

Where in place of exact results, where one either boinks or not, there's a range of behavior which then mimics the 'act of pursuing' for the sake of the boink.

stereotomy 2022 Apr 21, 3:33pm

What hasn't been mentioned, but it nevertheless critical to the argument that women feel self-entitled, is the fact that they (natural, not trans) have functioning uteruses (or uteri, for you Latin absolutists). Without women, there would be no new generation. Even the ancients knew this, which is why they killed all the men and the boys among the vanquished, and took the girls and the women as war brides.

Women have intrinsic value above men in that if you fuck a fertile one, you will receive one or more newborn humans. Mean have no intrinsic value - one man can fuck 1,000 women (like Genghis Khan). Women are born, men are made. Biologically, the male/female ratio in nature is about 52/48, illustrating that men are essentially expendable, until they gain the crucial skills to survive and then dominate.

The problem with 4th wave feminazism is that pussy has been placed on Mount Olympus as its pedestal. Women are pricing themselves out of the SMP for vanity's sake. Fuck them and the horses they rode in on.

GNL 2022 Apr 21, 4:16pm

stereotomy says

Women are pricing themselves out of the SMP for vanity's sake. Fuck them and the horses they rode in on.

It will all work itself out if we get WWIII.

Patrick 2022 Apr 21, 5:15pm

I think it will necessarily all work itself out through evolution, but that could take centuries.

Women who want to be a mother more than anything else will out-reproduce women who want a career first.

There was never really a need for such a strong feeling in women before, because through most of our evolutionary history, women who could get pregnant probably would whether they wanted to or not. But now there is the pill, and so it comes down to what the woman wants.

But the God of Biomechanics does not negotiate. If a woman wants the wrong thing, that's the end of her genes now.

richwicks 2022 Apr 21, 5:19pm

Patrick says

I think it will necessarily all work itself out through evolution, but that could take centuries.

I would argue that's for the best.

Really, what we want is the ability to reversibly sterilize both sexes, and when they BOTH decide to have a kid, then they have a kid.

A lot of the bullshit of today could be pretty easily fixed. Now that it's a woman's exclusive decision to have a child or not, a man that decides to stop out of that should be able to do that.

31 clambo 2022 Apr 21, 7:10pm

Well the women I see who want kids are foreigners who are generally illegals and welfare queen hoodrats.

PeopleUnited 2022 Apr 21, 7:43pm

clambo says

70% of divorces are initiated by the female.

This would not be the case if there was no profit in divorce.

PeopleUnited 2022 Apr 21, 7:57pm

Patrick says

But now there is the pill, and so it comes down to what the woman wants.

It’s not just the pill.

70 million abortions annual worldwide. Over 62 million in the USA cumulative since roe v wade.

Women are choosing death. That is way worse than choosing temporary chemical sterility.

I applaud anyone who is wise enough to know they are not willing to be a parent. But the time to make that choice is before the child is growing up inside you. At that point the child deserves a choice, and because they cannot advocate for themselves it is the responsibility of all of us to advocate for the unborn, just like we would for any person unjustly condemned on death row.

Tenpoundbass 2022 Apr 22, 1:07pm

I think your whole premise about professional women who make a lot of money or more money is way off.
You don't take into Conservative vs Liberal motifs. Are they "Liberated and Empowered" or are they "Enlightened and Informed"?
I find rich conservative women fascinating, and attractive, where I find rich Liberal women repugnant and repulsive.
Conservative women have long term relationships and lasting marriages, and are also a mother. You look at all of the conservative babes, they all have a hubby and kids. And most often it seems, she earns more than Hubs. Rich Liberal women if they are married, it's to guys more rich than them. And have multiple divorces behind them.

Onvacation 2022 Apr 22, 2:51pm

RWSGFY says

Patrick says
RWSGFY says
"$13,000 a month gross"
is not "high six figures". =)) It's rather low six figures.

BTW, this is the millionth comment on patrick.net.

Yay!

Congratulations!

You get to buy the first round at the party.

AmericanKulak 2022 Apr 22, 4:30pm

HunterTits says

The FemiNazis will try to make them illegal. Just like they continually try to get fiancé visas abolished.

They already are trying to make them illegal. Apparently a big realistic veiny dildo isn't "Objectification" but AI Sex Dolls are.

AI Sex Dolls will be the end of Feminism. Only a big depression so bad the government can't pay welfare hos (one of the last things that they'd cut due to the D voter base) could compete.

But the most limp wristed soyboy would go balls to the wall to defend his TPE/Silicon Waifu.

Buying Sex Dolls is a (counter-) revolutionary act. Okay, I exaggerate, but putting things like a screeching libtard seems to work.

RWSGFY 2022 Apr 22, 4:52pm

Onvacation says

RWSGFY says
Patrick says
RWSGFY says
"$13,000 a month gross"
is not "high six figures". =)) It's rather low six figures.

BTW, this is the millionth comment on patrick.net.

Yay!

Congratulations!

You get to buy the first round at the party.

I'll go to the party incognito then. =))

HeadSet 2022 Apr 25, 8:00am

Onvacation says

RWSGFY says
Patrick says
RWSGFY says
"$13,000 a month gross"
is not "high six figures". =)) It's rather low six figures.

BTW, this is the millionth comment on patrick.net.

Yay!

Congratulations!

You get to buy the first round at the party.

First round? I was thinking he would HOST the party.

Goran_K 2022 Apr 25, 8:48am

Tenpoundbass says

I think your whole premise about professional women who make a lot of money or more money is way off.
You don't take into Conservative vs Liberal motifs. Are they "Liberated and Empowered" or are they "Enlightened and Informed"?

Conservative women aren't ideologically "feminist", the value systems don't line up. So that's why I didn't make the distrinction. It's like talking about the difference between Caucasian white supremacists and black white supremacists, you usually don't get the latter unless it's some sort of comedy sketch.

Maga_Chaos_Monkey 2022 Apr 26, 9:45pm

Amber looks like she might be IHilary's sister to me sometimes. In particular with that shit hairdo she's 'sporting' at the trial. She'll grow into it.

AmericanKulak 2022 Apr 26, 9:52pm

Best argument I've heard:

"If a premature baby was in a coma, would it be legal for the mother to order it killed?"

richwicks 2022 Apr 27, 12:05am

HunterTits says

PeopleUnited says
I applaud anyone who is wise enough to know they are not willing to be a parent. But the time to make that choice is before the child is growing up inside you. At that point the child deserves a choice, and because they cannot advocate for themselves it is the responsibility of all of us to advocate for the unborn, just like we would for any person unjustly condemned on death row.

And this is exactly why the Abortion Holocaust folk fight tooth and nail to deny that the unborn are living, human beings. They cannot give an inch on this because if they do...it is all fucking over for them.

It's more nuanced than that. I'm not a fan of abortion, but I think it should be safe, legal, but also rare.

The problem is, that it makes money. That's the core of the problem. It's an industry.

Terminating a pregnancy at 6 weeks in, is a lot different than 6 months in. "Life begins as conception" might be a good saying, but at conception, that is clearly not yet a human being, it hasn't developed a brain, it couldn't possibly have any consciousness or awareness, it's still a thing. When that changes nobody can say. It can be reasonably argued babies don't hit sentience and awareness until well after they are born, but that does not justify infanticide.

If people care about unborn children, they need to draw reasonable lines. I have read, perhaps been misinformed, that a fetus doesn't have a brain in the first trimester, it's developing, but it's not there yet. 3 months to terminate a pregnancy is a reasonable cutoff if that is the case. Maybe the heartbeat detection is reasonable.

This is a self correcting problem anyhow. The people that welcome and support abortion are being out populated by the people who oppose it. Same with atheists, I know I am a dying breed, same with homosexuals, same with transgendered, same with liberals really. Liberals ARE sort of a death cult, let them kill themselves off. Just back away, and let them do what they want although none of us like clown world.

It should also be considered a possibility that attitudes and thinking are possibly somewhat inherited. If this is the case, permissiveness is cleaning up the gene pool. I should caution, it's possible that none of this is hardware and its all software in which case, permissiveness changes nothing other than the ideas die out slowly.

If women who get abortions with abandon are just sociopaths, what kind of mother will they be? Nobody considers that. We may have had a drop in violent crime because of the legalization of abortion in 1971. I'm not justifying it, I'm pointing out this is perhaps a salient fact. Correlation doesn't imply causation, but it's something to consider.

Patrick 2023 Mar 14, 7:25pm

https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/the-glorification-of-sub-mediocrity/comments

This means that if a woman wants to marry at or above her educational level, then there is going to be a high level of competition between women for the limited number of men. This is disastrous news if you think that promiscuous behavior is bad. When men are in demand they get to be the price setters and women the price takers, in econ terms (ceteris paribus etc). And seeing how men are the fallen creatures that we are, that price is sex. ...

On the one hand, app using women receive a signal that they are highly socially desirable because they are inundated with more likes than they could ever possibly know what to do with. However, as a result, 4/5ths of them are fighting over only 1/5th of the men on the app. In other words, in the app dating economy there are 4 women per high status man. This is a ratio beyond anything like what happens at colleges with more women than men, which is where Birgir draws lots of research from. (Birgir thinks that criticisms of dating apps are misguided, but I think that when the numbers are crunched it actually lends support to his argument).

The end result of this is that we are seeing some people return to what basically amounts to polygamy as women have to increasingly sexualize themselves in an attempt to win the affection of the high status men and these high status men take advantage of the situation to have tons of sex. ...

An older acquaintance of mine seemed to not understand why I said I would never in a million years try to flirt with a girl at the gym. And that was before the whole recent kerfuffle where some tik tok girl was doing hip thrusts in a skimpy gym outfit and accused some guy in the background of basically eye raping her so she could get internet clout (and presumably subscriber to her OnlyFans). ...

Now, just expand this phenomenon out to the rest of society and you can see why men are reluctant to approach women in public, even without all the pressure from fear of rejection etc. Let's look at the math that goes through men’s minds. Not only does approaching a woman to talk in public mean that you run the risk of being rejected, which is unpleasant, but there is also the risk that for daring to speak to a woman in public you will be labeled a creepy perv. Is it surprising that more and more men do the math and conclude it would just be safer and all around easier to go home and watch porn instead? ...

I am just going to speak frankly here and not bother to try and sugar coat things. I can’t begin to describe how many conversations I have had with male friends who bemoan that a woman is physically attractive but has basically been ruined by feminism. In general this means that women have adopted attitudes that are profoundly unfeminine and unattractive to men. Think of the stereotypical pink/purple haired angry ranting feminist. But even to lesser degrees than that women have adopted many views that are rather hard for men to honestly accept. ...

Millions of women are effectively online prostitutes. No matter what men say, most of them don’t want to marry a prostitute. They might want to mess around and have fun with one, but they most likely won’t want to marry one.

Feminism exterminates humanity.

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