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Seymour Hersh Claims Ukraine ‘War Effort’ Is ‘All Lies’: ‘The War Is Over – Russia Has Won’

“The war is over. Russia has won,” a senior U.S. intel official reportedly told Hersh.

“There is no Ukrainian offensive anymore, but the White House and the American media have to keep the lie going.

“The truth is if the Ukrainian army is ordered to continue the offensive, the army would mutiny.

“The soldiers aren’t willing to die anymore, but this doesn’t fit the B.S. that is being authored by the Biden White House.”
https://slaynews.com/news/seymour-hersh-claims-ukraine-war-effort-all-lies-war-over-russia-won/

More CGI for your viewing pleasure:

https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1705272408620277986/mediaViewer?mode=profile

That AI-generated stuff is getting gooood!

RayAmerica says

“The soldiers aren’t willing to die anymore, but this doesn’t fit the B.S. that is being authored by the Biden White House.”
https://slaynews.com/news/seymour-hersh-claims-ukraine-war-effort-all-lies-war-over-russia-won/

I'm doubtful because why would Seymour Hersh give the story to another reporter, instead of just report on it?

Bunch of unsourced quotes in there.

Aaaaand the remaining three landing ships are out of Sebastopol and the Black Sea alltoghether, hiding in the Nazi Sea ... err... I mean Azov Sea:

https://twitter.com/tom_bike/status/1703838577740705859



They started the SCHMO with 7 of these, btw.

Explosion reported near Russian Black Sea Fleet shipyard in Sevastopol

6:30 am, September 23, 2023
Source: Meduza
According to independent publication Agenstvo, residents of the city of Sevastopol in annexed Crimea reported hearing an explosion in the city’s Troitska Bay district on the morning of September 23.

According to local residents, there was a strike near Henerala Zhydylova Street, which is located near a shipyard and the 13th Ship Repair Plant, where ships that are part of the Russian Navy undergo repairs. Agenstvo’s sources noted that it’s not clear whether the missile hit the plant’s structure.

Head of annexed Sevastopol, Mikhail Razvozhayev, said that air defense systems shot down a missile and its debris fell near the pier in the Sukharnaya Bay (located opposite Troitskaya Bay on the other side of the larger Sevastopol Bay).

The Telegram channel Crimean Wind posted photos which appear to show smoke in the Sukharnaya Bay district.

Ceffer says

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Oh, Ceffer is now worried about Clihmate Chaaange. How cute.

You know who can turn everybody's attention to that precious AGW you and Greta are so worried about? The Cretin of Kremlin. All he needs to do is to take his war criminals back to their already very generous internationally-recognized Lebensraum ... err.. borders, pay reparations and allow prosecution of all military crimes (including the forced detention and deportation to the Reich of thousands of children and whatever was done to them there). And presto - the world will be back to that AGW of yours in no time.

PS. Oh, and you know who else think the Cretin's of Kremlin adventure is a "distraction from AGW"? John fucking Kerry.

Neutering as seen from space:

RWSGFY says

Ceffer says

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Oh, Ceffer is now worried about Clihmate Chaaange. How cute.

I think the point being made is that our governments don't really care about Climate Change other than as a distraction. If they did, they wouldn't be spending the majority of their resources on war.

Fun facts:

Cruiser Moskva was the first flaghip sunk since 1904.
Admiral Sokolov is the first fleet commander killed since 1904.
The current flagship of the Soviet Black Sea Fleet (which replaced Moskva in that role) "Admiral Makarov" which is the name of that that admiral who was killed onboard that flaghip sunk in 1904.

RWSGFY says

What submarine?

The Kilo hit in dry docks by the drone strike was barely scratched, let alone 'damaged'.

Trollhole says

RWSGFY says

What submarine?

The Kilo hit in dry docks by the drone strike was barely scratched, let alone 'damaged'.

You sure 'bout that? And the two gaping holes will just "buff right out"? Bless your heart.

Neutered and beheaded:

https://twitter.com/UKikaski/status/1706692184295059623

The demilitarization, denazification and desatanisation of Sevastopol is almost complete:

The Exodus of Russian ships from Sevastopol

Russian Black Sea Fleet moved most of its ships from Sevastopol to Novorossiysk.

All three operational submarines of Project 06363 (Kilo-class), both frigates of Project 11356 (Admiral Grigorovich-class) & one patrol ship moved to Novorossiysk.

Project 1135M (Krivak-class frigate), five large landing ships, and, apparently, the bulk of small missile ships are also in Novorossiysk.

Another part of the ships - one large landing ship, two small missile ships and both new minesweepers of Project 12700 (Alexandrit-class) - moved from Sevastopol to Feodosia.

Some CGI: https://twitter.com/clashreport/status/1709463466874982723

Denazification and demilitarization of Sevastopol confirmed by Soviet source and even an excuse is provided:

https://twitter.com/UKikaski/status/1710264985811570767

It wasn't so hard, was it? Turns out the Red Fleet can happily exist w/o a base in Sebastopol and all that silly talk about nukes if fleet in Sevastopol is threatened was just that - silly talk.

PS. Would YOU stay if your HQ looked like this?

Remember how Pukin exited the grain deal and declared a naval blocade? What came out of that?



PS. Resumption of food exports is a solid anti-inflationary move on Ukies part, bringing relief to these poor Americans buckling under the ginormous cost of nominal 21 cents per day per US person provided as aid to Ukraine over the last 20 month.

BREAKING: Unconfirmed reports about the Russian patrol ship “Pavel Derzhavin” having been blown up near Sevastopol today https://t.co/7al82RXEUp

All drydocks in the Black Sea are now occupied: https://youtu.be/JauEhJ8y8Ac

If Derzhavin is indeed blown up it will have nowhere to go for repairs (unless it has joined Moskva in the growing Red Flotilla submarine detachment).

Eric Holder says

All drydocks in the Black Sea are now occupied: https://youtu.be/JauEhJ8y8Ac

then all is lost for russia...they might as well surrender.

Eric Holder says

Remember how Pukin exited the grain deal and declared a naval blocade? What came out of that?

I remember our "news media" claiming that.

Hunted like rabbits at the entrance to what used to be their home base:

https://twitter.com/CovertShores/status/1712920949484380428

The neutering continued in Kerch:

The Russian Ministry of Defense stated that the Ukrainian Armed Forces launched 15 Storm shadow cruise missiles at the small missile ship Karakurt in Kerch. 13 missiles were allegedly shot down. This means that at least two missiles with a warhead of 450 kg each hit the ship, which means Karakurt either received heavy damage and was disabled for a long time, or it was destroyed and cannot be restored. The words about 15 missiles raise many questions, since earlier the Russian Defense Ministry itself stated that it had destroyed all Ukrainian Su-24 bombers capable of carrying cruise missiles. And now it turns out that at least 15 Su-24s were raised for the strike at the same time.

https://t.me/ButusovPlus/6021

The moment of the destruction of the small missile ship of the Russian Navy Karakurt at the dock in Kerch by Storm Shadow cruise missiles of the Ukrainian Armed Forces on November 4. As you can see, Russian air defense was probably able to shoot down two cruise missiles, but the other two broke through and accurately hit the target. The Russian Ministry of Defense stated that 13 missiles were allegedly shot down. The relatively high flight altitude of Storm Shadow is noteworthy. This is what allows Russian air defense to detect and hit a certain number of missiles using stealth technology. Reducing altitude requires more precise programming of the rocket's flight parameters. Obviously, the shipyard is covered by air defense, since it has already been hit before, and is located next to the Kerch Bridge, which the occupiers smoked. This shows that the enemy has established early warning and warnings against missile attacks, but Russian air defense is still unable to fully protect its Kerch facilities.

https://t.me/ButusovPlus/6022

Eric Holder says

BREAKING: Unconfirmed reports about the Russian patrol ship “Pavel Derzhavin” having been blown up near Sevastopol today https://t.co/7al82RXEUp

CGI!CGI!CGI!

And please remember that Europe is freezing in 1…2…3…10000 years!!!

RWSGFY says

The Russian Ministry of Defense stated that the Ukrainian Armed Forces launched 15 Storm shadow cruise missiles at the small missile ship Karakurt in Kerch

Standard op is to launch using a Ukrainian SU-24 : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storm_Shadow#Use_by_Ukraine

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RWS Ascold have been renamed RWS Cuckold:



https://youtu.be/RvJONuTbm-c

Minus 2 amphibious ships overnight:

https://twitter.com/PStyle0ne1/status/1722897781495353453

This neat summary is from couple days before, so doesn't mention them:

WTF does this have to do with Ukraine being totally fucked in the land war that matters?

Nothing.

Even Ukraine’s isolated successes only serve to emphasize the enormous disparity in capabilities. For example, when the AFU uses western missiles to attack Russian ships in drydock, this is only possible because Russia has a navy. The Russians, in contrast, have a wide arsenal of anti-ship missiles that they are not using, because Ukraine does not have a navy. While the spectacle of a successful hit on a Russian vessel makes for nice PR, it only reveals the asymmetry in assets and does nothing to ameliorate Ukraine’s fundamental problem, which is the steady attrition and destruction of its ground forces in the Donbas.

https://bigserge.substack.com/p/russo-ukrainian-war-the-reckoning

In the third century, during China’s Three Kingdoms era (after the Han Dynasty broke apart into a trifurcated state in the early 200’s), there was a famous general and official named Sima Yi. While not as oft quoted as the better known Sun Tzu, Sima Yi has one pithy aphorism attributed to him which is better than anything in the Art of War. Sima Yi put the essence of warmaking the following way:

In military affairs there are five essential points. If able to attack, you must attack. If not able to attack, you must defend. If not able to defend, you must flee. The remaining two points entail only surrender or death.

Ukraine is working its way down the list. The events of the summer demonstrated that it cannot successfully attack strongly held Russian positions. Events in Avdivvka and elsewhere now test whether they can defend their position in the Donbas against rising Russian force generation. If they fail this test, it will be time to flee, surrender, or die. Such is the way of things when the time for reckoning comes.

https://bigserge.substack.com/p/russo-ukrainian-war-the-reckoning

PumpingRedheads says

Ukraine is working its way down the list. The events of the summer demonstrated that it cannot successfully attack strongly held Russian positions. Events in Avdivvka and elsewhere now test whether they can defend their position in the Donbas against rising Russian force generation. If they fail this test, it will be time to flee, surrender, or die. Such is the way of things when the time for reckoning comes.

I read that US and Russian officials met (in Pakistan?) recently. I wonder if some deal was worked out as far as winding down the war.

Perhaps let Russia occupy Donbas and let it have Crimea as part of that deal.

And bring in UN observers for Donbas, as well as not let Ukraine join NATO but allow them to keep their military.

Xi and Biden may be discussing the terms of this as well, and I can see Biden wanting this going into the election year.

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Zeihan's take: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vJfDKlnWYuA

ad says

Perhaps let Russia occupy Donbas and let it have Crimea

Don't they already own Donbas and Crimea?

PumpingRedheads says

WTF does this have to do with Ukraine being totally fucked in the land war that matters?

The Russian Navy can no longer target or threaten Ukrainian exports since Ukraine forced Russia to abandon its major Crimean Naval bases.

Ukraine doesn't have an economy if it can't export its grain through the Black Sea.

So kind of a big deal.

PumpingRedheads says

WTF does this have to do with Ukraine being totally fucked in the land war that matters?

Nothing.

Au contraire, my friend: at the start of the war ze Red fleet was used to
put pressure on the North-Eastern shore of the Black Sea to the point of some warships popping up within artillery range of Odessa and landing ships with marines onboard lurking just below horizon. That fixed lots of forces there. Not anymore. Then there was a blocade, which was partially releaved by so-called "grain deal" and there was constant pressure of Reds exiting it with "dire consequences for Ze Global South".Not anymore: the moment came when their bluff was called, the Reds have withdrawn from the deal, but blocade was not restored, because they can't. And absent inspections which were happening under that deal one coukd suspect these grain ships are not coming to Ukie ports empty anymore. Then there are these missile barrages aimed to terrorize the civilian population - much of that was launched from vessels which aren't capable of doing it anymore, or ceased to exist. And lastly, the fate of Red Army in Dumb Ass very much depends on the health of their force in Crimea, supply routes it secures and aviation it hosts. That fleet was an integral part of Crimea defense. Not anymore. Andcwhen that bridge falls somebody would wish for more landing ships to paper them over.... Alas, most of them are gone. What is the word for constantly diminishing numbers and strength.... attrition? Nah, it can't be.

But hey, if achieving a somewhat stable front against an opponent you initially expected to roll in 3 days with an army supposedly capable of going against whole NATO iwhile your fleet is being turned into scrap is a victory, pop that Champaign.

It's just not a very common definition of victory, that's all.

NEWS OF THE WIERD: The Russian Ministry of Defense appointed a new commander for the missile cruiser Moskva, six months after it was sunk by Ukrainian forces.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1735345273419829400%0A%0ANEWS%20OF%20THE%20WIERD:%20The%20Russian%20Ministry%20of%20Defense%20appointed%20a%20new%20commander%20for%20the%20missile%20cruiser%20Moskva,%20six%20months%20after%20it%20was%20sunk%20by%20Ukrainian%20forces.

Aaaand another Ropucha-class large amph landing ship is going up in smoke:



How many of these left now, three?

CGI, clearly. Or something.

https://kyivindependent.com/ukrainian-air-force-destroys-russian-landing-ship-in-occupied-crimea/

"Earlier tonight, at around 3 a.m. local time, explosions were reported in the area of Feodosia. A ship with Iranian ammunition was reportedly blown up and a fire broke out in the port."

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