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2022 Jun 13, 5:04am   46,160 views  308 comments

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This "relentlessly aggressive" stance could include raising interest rates by 0.75% on Wednesday, a move economists at Barclays said Friday is now their baseline expectation.

"Historically, the US central bank has avoided surprising markets – say, by going 75bp when it is not priced in," Barclays economists led by Jonathan Millar said in a note to clients published Friday.

"But next week, we feel, is likely to be an exception."

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/inflation-puts-pressure-on-powell-what-to-know-this-week-162615319.html

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183   Blue   2023 Apr 12, 6:13pm  

HeadSet says

ad says


12 month inflation or CPI is 5%

That explicitly omits rents and fuel.

Lol! They always ignore items that are outside certain ranges. Not so useful in general.
184   AD   2023 Apr 12, 6:20pm  

HeadSet says


That explicitly omits rents and fuel.


No, it is the overall CPI which obviously includes rent, energy, and food. Overall CPI (i.e., inflation for last 12 months) is 5%.

I believe you may be thinking of the core CPI which omits food and energy.

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185   HeadSet   2023 Apr 12, 7:11pm  

ad says

I believe you may be thinking of the core CPI which omits food and energy.

True, but it is that core CPI that went up over 5%.
But core prices, which exclude volatile food and energy items and capture longer-lasting trends, increased 0.4% from February following a 0.5% bump in the previous month. That pushed up the annual increase from 5.5% to 5.6%.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/economy/2023/04/12/cpi-inflation-data-today-live-updates/11607115002/
186   AD   2023 Apr 12, 8:31pm  

HeadSet says


True, but it is that core CPI that went up over 5%.


Yes, but overall CPI is 5%. For me, overall CPI has more of an impact on my household finances.

Core CPI is just a large aggregate or component of overall CPI.

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188   Tenpoundbass   2023 Apr 21, 5:19am  

Interest rates need to be 12%, that would put an end to $35,000 starter cars with 72 month payment schedules. .
189   WookieMan   2023 Apr 21, 5:30am  

Tenpoundbass says

Interest rates need to be 12%, that would put an end to $35,000 starter cars with 72 month payment schedules. .

Problem is if they were able to sell them at that price, they'll keep trying.... and so will the buyers. We're in a tricky period that I don't claim to understand. I think most auto buyers without means/income are probably already paying close to 12%. Obviously shit credit buyers are paying way more. But someone with a 620-40 middle score is for sure at 12%.
190   zzyzzx   2023 Apr 21, 7:39am  

WookieMan says

Problem is if they were able to sell them at that price, they'll keep trying.... and so will the buyers


Yet still another case where stupid people willing to overpay ruin it for everyone. The banks are supposedly wising up and not giving out loans at excessive LTV, meaning you can't borrow 160% of the price of the car any more.
191   zzyzzx   2023 May 3, 11:12am  

up another .25%
192   AD   2023 May 3, 10:02pm  

zzyzzx says


up another .25%


The Fed Funds rate is now between 5% and 5.25% and at 1990's levels.

It will be interesting to see how GDP and unemployment fares over next 6 months considering that for 7 out of 8 years during the Obama Administration the rate was at 0.25%.

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193   Al_Sharpton_for_President   2023 May 4, 6:00am  

Grab some 13 week and 6 month US Treasuries and sit back and collect 5%/year, risk free.

$1 million invested means $50,000 in passive annual income, not bad for sitting on your ass, downing Margaritas, and munching on carnitas tacos.
194   GNL   2023 May 4, 11:18am  

Al_Sharpton_for_President says

Grab some 13 week and 6 month US Treasuries and sit back and collect 5%/year, risk free.

$1 million invested means $50,000 in passive annual income, not bad for sitting on your ass, downing Margaritas, and munching on carnitas tacos.

Yeah, cause everyone's got a million dollars. I'm going to assume if someone has a million dollars, 50k ain't too exciting.
195   clambo   2023 May 4, 11:29am  

I'm not buying bonds but I probably should at my stage of life.
I'm probably going to start changing my growth stock funds to dividend style funds.
I just like capital appreciation funds.
197   zzyzzx   2023 May 5, 11:15am  

GNL says

Yeah, cause everyone's got a million dollars.


I'm guessing that pretty much every here has at least that much.
198   GNL   2023 May 5, 12:51pm  

zzyzzx says

GNL says


Yeah, cause everyone's got a million dollars.


I'm guessing that pretty much every here has at least that much.

Wow, that is pretty amazing. I'm running with a high brow crowd then.
199   HeadSet   2023 May 5, 7:44pm  

GNL says

Wow, that is pretty amazing. I'm running with a high brow crowd then.

Ain't you one of those with that kind of bread?
200   GNL   2023 May 5, 8:33pm  

No
201   AD   2023 May 5, 9:29pm  

clambo says

I'm not buying bonds but I probably should at my stage of life.


Check out Vanguard Bond ETF (ticker: BND). It dropped about 23% from peak set in 2020.

I think BND will return to 2020 levels once interest rates settle.

Federal Reserve has the Fed Funds rate around 5.25% which is where it was for most of the 1990s. I think they may increase it one more time to 5.5% but I don't expect anything more than that.

Prime rate for various loans like home equity loans are set usually at 2% above the Fed Funds rate; I don't think the Fed wants to completely tighten credit availability. Look at M2 money supply chart as it has fallen off the cliff recently.
202   AD   2023 May 5, 11:55pm  

Inflation is measured various ways, as Personal Consumer Expenditure and Consumer Price Index.

PCE is more comprehensive than CPI, such as it also accounts for non urban consumers.

Core PCE (excludes food and energy) = 4.6% for last 12 months

PCE (includes food and energy) = 4.2%

CPI = 5%.

The Fed Funds rate now is 5.25% and greater than inflation (CPI and PCE). This will help to keep prices in check. I noticed egg prices have dropped a little.

Below is provided by Wolfman at Wolf Street website. It shows when core PCE is above the Fed Funds rate such as during Obama's 8 years in office.



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204   GNL   2023 Jun 1, 5:28am  

Will they continue to raise rates?
205   HeadSet   2023 Jun 1, 8:13pm  

GNL says

Will they continue to raise rates?

I hope so.
206   GNL   2023 Jun 1, 10:56pm  

HeadSet says

GNL says


Will they continue to raise rates?

I hope so.

It seems perfectly sensible to wish for higher rates. Everyone is effected by inflation.
207   zzyzzx   2023 Jun 2, 6:44am  

GNL says

Will they continue to raise rates?


Expecting the federal reserve to do what's right is just plain silly. If they were doing the right things overnight rates would be much higher than they currently are.
208   Misc   2023 Jun 2, 10:22pm  

It's not so much Americans and American companies that are getting slammed by higher rates (don't worry plenty will go BK).

It's really funny to watch the foreigners squirm. You see there's about 15 trillion in dollar denominated debt owed by foreign entities. Most of this is short term debt. The Fed raised rates about 5% over the last year. There's just no way to come up with an extra $750 billion per year. Everyone is trying to extend and pretend, but sooner or later, lenders just ain't gonna lend billions of extra dollars to people, companies, governments, etc.

The defaults will be spectacular.
209   richwicks   2023 Jun 2, 11:47pm  

Misc says

The defaults will be spectacular.


See ya in the breadlines!
210   zzyzzx   2023 Jun 7, 5:13am  

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/harvard-rogoff-sees-10-yield-195335688.html

Harvard’s Rogoff Sees 10-Year Yield North of 4% in Coming Years

I'm thinking that it's going higher than that.
211   AD   2023 Jun 9, 12:22am  

Personal Consumer Expenditure (PCE) index has been trending down, so I do not know if the Fed will raise it from currently 5.25% to 5.5% this month or next month.

I did see a Wall St Journal article about $1 trillion US federal debt likely to be financed at 6%. Wow, as not long ago the rate was around 0.5%.

These interest payments or debt service are going to become a considerable larger percentage of total US federal budget. I hope tax receipts continue to increase.

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212   AmericanKulak   2023 Jun 9, 1:35am  

Misc says


It's really funny to watch the foreigners squirm. You see there's about 15 trillion in dollar denominated debt owed by foreign entities.

Add to that the massive amount of American Real estate from Brickell, Miami to Coastal California Mondocondos and who knows how much commercial real estate, owned by foreigners as their hedge against their native land's political discord.

Commercial and Residential Real Estate is really trying to maintain 3% interest rate pricing in a 7% interest rate environment.
213   AD   2023 Jun 9, 9:13pm  

S&P 500 is at 4300 and is in a bull market since it is 20% below the recent low set in October 2022.

It was at
3400 in February 2020
4300 in July 2021
4818 in December 2021
3550 in October 2022

There has been about 20% inflation from February 2020 to present day

The S&P 500 increased by 26% since February 2020

So the S&P 500's real gain was only 26% minus 20%, or 6% since February 2020

I think the market may move sideways for second half of 2022 and the current gains Year to Date (YTD) may not cause an increase to CPI or PCE.

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215   HeadSet   2023 Jun 12, 1:50pm  

zzyzzx says

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/fed-keep-rates-high-thanks-000020956.html

Fed Will Keep Rates High Thanks to Inflation

Fed Will Keep Rates High Thanks to Inflation Fueled by Corporate Greed, Investors Say

No competent person in economics or finance thinks inflation is caused by corporate greed. Inflation, the general rise in prices across the board, has one and only one cause - the overprinting of fiat currency.
216   AD   2023 Jun 13, 12:50am  

HeadSet says


No competent person in economics or finance thinks inflation is caused by corporate greed. Inflation, the general rise in prices across the board, has one and only one cause - the overprinting of fiat currency.


If there is collusion within certain industries such as serious AntiTrust effort, then in some segments of economy there may be "artificial" inflation. Prices stay elevated because companies colluded with each other.

Also, if a country slowly becomes a 3rd world shit hole, then supply starts to lack compared to demand. Hence, inflation results.

This could be where each new generation of labor force is dumber and more lazy than the previous one.

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217   HeadSet   2023 Jun 13, 7:37am  

ad says

If there is collusion within certain industries such as serious AntiTrust effort, then in some segments of economy there may be "artificial" inflation.

Remember, inflation is the rise in prices across the board, it has nothing to do with high prices in one sector due to shortages. With inflation, it is the money itself that is devalued, not when a specific product increased in value due to demand exceeding supply.
218   AD   2023 Jun 13, 12:17pm  

HeadSet says


Remember, inflation is the rise in prices across the board, it has nothing to do with high prices in one sector due to shortages. With inflation, it is the money itself that is devalued, not when a specific product increased in value due to demand exceeding supply.


Yes, I know. But if you live in a decaying society, then prices "across the board" will rise in order to maintain the same quality of life or standard of living.

You have shortages that are "across the board" as far as producing the same quality services and goods.

That is what the chumps and sheep don't realize as far as a country decaying toward a third world shithole. They see symptoms around them like banning the SAT or ACT because they are racist.

Pushing race-based admissions in producing medical students, and eventually putting political pressure on the American Medical Association to "rebaseline" the medical license exam to make it more socially equitable or race egalitarian.

So if you want nearly 100% reliable electrical grid or a competent medical doctor (2004 quality of life standards) then you are going to pay a lot more in 2004 dollars (i.e., inflation adjusted dollars ) for that in the future.

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219   AD   2023 Jun 13, 12:23pm  

That is why you never hear anymore about "continuous improvement" or Six Sigma, etc.... that helps as far as getting best value and decrease "unit price" ...

its like the new religion is Woke and that the new religion can't co-exist with the Six Sigma and productivity culture religion...

Remember Al Gore's hammer award, Mister "HeadSet" ?

You live in the DC suburbs, Mister "HeadSet".... that award was to those in government (federal un-civil servants and beltway bandit contractors) who provided suggestions on productivity and innovation gains ....

where is all that past culture as far as Six Sigma, productivity gains culture, etc... or was it 100% bullshit ????

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220   apex   2023 Jun 13, 12:44pm  

Al_Sharpton_for_President says
Grab some 13 week and 6 month US Treasuries and sit back and collect 5%/year, risk free.
$1 million invested means $50,000 in passive annual income, not bad for sitting on your ass, downing Margaritas, and munching on carnitas tacos

When you get 13-week or 6-mo t-bills, don't they mature at the end of that period? It is not guaranteed that you can roll them over at that interest rate into the future.
221   AD   2023 Jun 13, 2:10pm  

apex says


sit back and collect 5%/year


Banks like Schwab, USAA, etc. are going to need to increase their savings account rates to compete with this.

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222   HeadSet   2023 Jun 13, 7:39pm  

ad says

Banks like Schwab, USAA, etc. are going to need to increase their savings account rates to compete with this.

Discover Bank already has MM accounts at nearly 4%.

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