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2022 Jun 13, 5:04am   35,753 views  274 comments

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This "relentlessly aggressive" stance could include raising interest rates by 0.75% on Wednesday, a move economists at Barclays said Friday is now their baseline expectation.

"Historically, the US central bank has avoided surprising markets – say, by going 75bp when it is not priced in," Barclays economists led by Jonathan Millar said in a note to clients published Friday.

"But next week, we feel, is likely to be an exception."

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/inflation-puts-pressure-on-powell-what-to-know-this-week-162615319.html

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1   GNL   2022 Jun 13, 5:09am  

The rate will likely rise .75% this week?
2   Dholliday126   2022 Jun 13, 6:03am  

Needs to be 100 but they will go 75. Fed is massively behind the curve. Libs green agenda and China's intentional supply chain bottleneck has/will ruin economy.
3   zzyzzx   2022 Jun 13, 6:06am  

Needs to be 250, but they will only do 50. Expecting the federal reserve to do the right thing is just plain silly.
4   Hircus   2022 Jun 13, 2:53pm  

In 2007, everyone said a housing/MBS crash was impossible. It was very low on the expected possible issue list. Then it happened.

In 2020, after many years of the fed failing to achieve their desired inflation rate, and eventually capitulating when they said "maybe the goal is too high, so lets just lower the goal lulz.", people thought rampant multi year inflation was one of the last things that could happen. Then it happened.

The sloth like reaction to inflation smells. It makes me very suspicious that either they either engineered it all, or took advantage of the situation to make inflation worse.
5   AmericanKulak   2022 Jun 13, 4:40pm  

YEEHAH! Power to the savers!

(And no, paying down debt on a ticky tack shack != saving)
6   zzyzzx   2022 Jun 14, 8:51am  

https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/markets-brace-100-point-fed-rate-hike-inflation-roars-new-high

Markets brace for 100-point Fed rate hike as inflation roars to new high
7   Eric Holder   2022 Jun 14, 11:40am  

AmericanKulak says

YEEHAH! Power to the savers!


Except nothing pays interest near inflation rate (save for measly $10K in I-bonds).
8   BayArea   2022 Jun 14, 6:23pm  

This fed rate hike is already baked into mortgage rates.
9   clambo   2022 Jun 14, 8:46pm  

The government giving away free money by the thousands of billions caused inflation.
An economist would say it’s increased availability of money with no increase of output.
Biden and Putin got oil prices up.
Raising interest rates will have no effect on any of the above.
10   Misc   2022 Jun 15, 12:45am  

China;s construction boom has turned to bust. China's imports have simply imploded. This has put quite a damper on emerging market economies.

There is about $15 trillion in dollar denominated debt owed by foreign entities. With the expected 3/4 point raise today, that'll mean an extra $225 billion yearly they owe in interest from the beginning of the year.

Much of that debt will not be able to be rolled over. International bankruptcies will become commonplace.

There could be a global depression. That would certainly bring down oil prices.
12   zzyzzx   2022 Jun 15, 5:17am  

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/gundlach-says-fed-raise-fed-032359738.html

Gundlach Says Fed Should Raise Rate to 3% on Wednesday
13   zzyzzx   2022 Jun 15, 7:12am  

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/fed-fomc-monetary-policy-decision-june-2022-120337242.html

Federal Reserve set to announce interest rate decision at 2 p.m. ET

Too bad we can't do a poll on what they will do. If I had to guess I'm thinking 50 basis points, or less because they consistently do the wrong thing (with the right thing being a higher rate jack).
14   Al_Sharpton_for_President   2022 Jun 15, 7:27am  

50 is what they had originally telegraphed. I think there is a good chance it will be 75 due to the continuing bad inflation numbers. They are being tasked with the challenging job of cleaning up the mess that they, Fauci and scarf lady, Trumpy and senile guy, and senile Congress have created.
15   zzyzzx   2022 Jun 15, 7:58am  

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/15/heres-everything-the-fed-is-expected-to-announce-including-the-biggest-rate-hike-in-28-years.html

The Federal Reserve on Wednesday is expected to raise benchmark borrowing rates by three-quarters of a percentage point.
16   zzyzzx   2022 Jun 15, 11:03am  

Up 75.
17   Shaman   2022 Jun 15, 12:25pm  

This isn’t going to fix inflation.
The supply chain must be fixed first.
I still can’t get parts or components or even freaking grease without a huge wait. That means we pay whatever it takes to get what we need to keep operating.
Which drives prices up.
18   GNL   2022 Jun 15, 1:08pm  

Shaman says

This isn’t going to fix inflation.
The supply chain must be fixed first.
I still can’t get parts or components or even freaking grease without a huge wait. That means we pay whatever it takes to get what we need to keep operating.
Which drives prices up.

What industry are you in?
20   Booger   2022 Jun 15, 1:39pm  

zzyzzx says

Up 75.


ERECTION INTENSIFYING!!!

This was the realistically the best we could have hoped for.
21   Misc   2022 Jun 16, 10:23pm  

... and all of a sudden nobody wants to borrow money ... except for those who know they are not going to repay it.
22   Booger   2022 Jun 23, 3:08pm  

Ally Bank now up to 1% APY on it's savings account.
23   Eric Holder   2022 Jun 23, 3:12pm  

Booger says

Ally Bank now up to 1% APY on it's savings account.


WOW!!!! Savers getting RICH!!!
24   stereotomy   2022 Jun 23, 3:16pm  

Where is my $100K McMansion. Bring it on MFs!
25   zzyzzx   2022 Jul 7, 7:48am  

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/06/business/economy/fed-rate-increase-inflation.html

Fed Moves Toward Another Big Rate Increase as Inflation Lingers
26   NuttBoxer   2022 Jul 7, 8:41am  

There are only two choices under a central bank system. Inflate and gut the Federal Reserve debt notes, ultimately imploding the economy, or deflate, gut the stock market, ultimately imploding the economy. Ohh, I guess there's just one..
27   NuttBoxer   2022 Jul 7, 8:44am  

Shaman says

This isn’t going to fix inflation.
The supply chain must be fixed first.


While these may appear to be different problems, they are really the same. Inflation always, ALWAYS causes supply chain issues. Look at Venezuela, Weimer, or any previous example. Even simpler, these are symptoms of every society that employs a central bank.
28   B.A.C.A.H.   2022 Jul 7, 8:57am  

NuttBoxer says

While these may appear to be different problems, they are really the same. Inflation always, ALWAYS causes supply chain issues.

Supply chain issues only in the context of demand.

QT, higher cost of borrowing can choke demand, supply chain issue problem solved by reduced demand.

Reminds me of when Volcker was appointed in the late 1970's. Yes, I was paying attention then.
30   zzyzzx   2022 Jul 13, 7:21am  

No way they do anything above 75 basis points, because like I mentioned above Expecting the federal reserve to do the right thing is just plain silly.
31   HeadSet   2022 Jul 13, 8:15am  

Al_Sharpton_for_President says

Inflation surges 9.1% in June, most since November 1981

The price of generic groceries has doubled within the last two years. If inflation was only 9%, prices should take 8 years to double.
32   NuttBoxer   2022 Jul 13, 8:52am  

B.A.C.A.H. says

Supply chain issues only in the context of demand.


Supply chain issues in the context of raw materials. Value is just a measurement of time. When the time and effort it takes me to get raw material that you need for your product out of the ground is being compensated with fiat paper that is losing value daily, at some point I'm gonna say fuck you and stop working for worthless paper. Since this happens at the source, it ripples all the way down the chain. There issues at other places, transporters will stop moving goods for same reason, consumers will stop buying non-essential goods, but this first one is the worst.

This isn't transitory, it's not caused just by Scamdemic's, and it didn't even start in the 70's. This IS the purpose of central banks, we are living their end result worldwide. So to expect the Creature to act contrary to it's nature and "fix" is farcical. Like I've been saying for a while, you want a better world, make it, no one else is going to do it for you.
33   zzyzzx   2022 Jul 13, 9:12am  

https://www.bankofcanada.ca/2022/07/fad-press-release-2022-07-13/

Bank of Canada increases policy interest rate by 100 basis points, continues quantitative tightening

The Bank of Canada today increased its target for the overnight rate to 2½%, with the Bank Rate at 2¾% and the deposit rate at 2½%. The Bank is also continuing its policy of quantitative tightening (QT).
34   exfatguy   2022 Jul 13, 10:12am  

As someone that's kept a good hold on credit card debt, and with other loans at low fixed rates, I kind of want to see interest rates go way up before I buy a house. My monthly payment ability is fixed, so the higher the rates, the lower the home price needs to be. This is good, as perhaps rate will go down in later years, allowing me to refinance and lower payment.

Lower principle amount is more valuable to me than a lower interest rate when I'm buying.
35   RC2006   2022 Jul 13, 10:17am  

exfatguy says

As someone that's kept a good hold on credit card debt, and with other loans at low fixed rates, I kind of want to see interest rates go way up before I buy a house. My monthly payment ability is fixed, so the higher the rates, the lower the home price needs to be. This is good, as perhaps rate will go down in later years, allowing me to refinance and lower payment.

Lower principle amount is more valuable to me than a lower interest rate when I'm buying.


Agree if all the turmoil drives prices down and isn't countered by inflation. Either way rates need to go much higher.
36   GNL   2022 Jul 13, 10:37am  

exfatguy says

As someone that's kept a good hold on credit card debt, and with other loans at low fixed rates, I kind of want to see interest rates go way up before I buy a house. My monthly payment ability is fixed, so the higher the rates, the lower the home price needs to be. This is good, as perhaps rate will go down in later years, allowing me to refinance and lower payment.

Lower principle amount is more valuable to me than a lower interest rate when I'm buying.

I've always believed the best time to buy is when rates are at their highest. I had a Realtor try to tell me that high rates cause inflation. Houses, over the last 20 years(?) have gone up in large part to the steady falling of rates.
37   GNL   2022 Jul 13, 10:38am  

I understand the Fed raised another .75 today but I haven't been able to confirm that.
38   Al_Sharpton_for_President   2022 Jul 14, 6:55am  

Fed Could Weigh Historic 100 Basis-Point Hike After Inflation Scorcher.

Federal Reserve officials may debate a historic one percentage-point rate hike later this month after another searing inflation report piled pressure on the central bank to act.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/fed-could-weigh-historic-100-145945366.html
40   clambo   2022 Jul 14, 7:16am  

It’s almost ironic; raising interest rates will not accomplish anything except make things worse for the average guy. But, a good result will be the socialist loser Democrats will be blamed and lose in November, like 2010 all over again.

It couldn’t happen to worse bunch of assholes.

The people who are not prepared for this inflation are too young to remember the 70’s.

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