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AD
2023 Sep 21, 9:42pm
AD
2023 Sep 21, 9:42pm
zzyzzx says
So that means no recession before 2026
How long can the yield curve stay inverted ? Schwab has 1 month CD's at 5.5%
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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/interest-rates-staying-higher-for-longer-means-at-least-through-2026-for-the-fed-100035115.html
Interest rates staying 'higher for longer' means at least through 2026 for the Fed
So that means no recession before 2026
How long can the yield curve stay inverted ? Schwab has 1 month CD's at 5.5%
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Booger
2023 Nov 1, 1:35pm
Booger
2023 Nov 1, 1:35pm
Rates remain the same. I'm OK with these current rates as long as they are never lowered.
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zzyzzx
2023 Dec 13, 2:44pm
zzyzzx
2023 Dec 13, 2:44pm
Rates remain the same, again. I'm not convinced that they are going to raise them any more either, even though they should.
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zzyzzx
2024 Jan 31, 11:45am
zzyzzx
2024 Jan 31, 11:45am
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/federal-reserve-leaves-interest-rates-unchanged-tempers-expectations-on-rate-cuts-ahead-190255912.html
Federal Reserve leaves interest rates unchanged, tempers expectations on rate cuts ahead
Rare freak occasion where the Federal Reserve does the right thing.
Federal Reserve leaves interest rates unchanged, tempers expectations on rate cuts ahead
Rare freak occasion where the Federal Reserve does the right thing.
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zzyzzx
2024 Mar 1, 6:57am
zzyzzx
2024 Mar 1, 6:57am
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/apollo-torsten-slok-says-fed-131511825.html
Apollo’s Torsten Slok Says Fed Will Not Cut Rates in 2024
Apollo Management Chief Economist Torsten Slok said that a re-accelerating US economy, coupled with a rise in underlying inflation, will prevent the Federal Reserve from cutting interest rates in 2024.
Apollo’s Torsten Slok Says Fed Will Not Cut Rates in 2024
Apollo Management Chief Economist Torsten Slok said that a re-accelerating US economy, coupled with a rise in underlying inflation, will prevent the Federal Reserve from cutting interest rates in 2024.
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zzyzzx
2024 Mar 5, 12:06pm
zzyzzx
2024 Mar 5, 12:06pm
https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/01/investing/the-fed-may-not-cut-rates-this-year/index.html
The US economy is so strong that there might not be any rate cuts in 2024
The US economy is so strong that there might not be any rate cuts in 2024
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zzyzzx
2024 Mar 19, 5:16am
zzyzzx
2024 Mar 19, 5:16am
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/boj-dovish-tone-first-rate-044641163.html
Japan Ends Era of Negative Rates With Few Clues on Further Hikes
Japan Ends Era of Negative Rates With Few Clues on Further Hikes
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GNL
2024 Mar 19, 5:18am
GNL
2024 Mar 19, 5:18am
zzyzzx says
How come it doesn't feel strong?
https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/01/investing/the-fed-may-not-cut-rates-this-year/index.html
The US economy is so strong that there might not be any rate cuts in 2024
How come it doesn't feel strong?
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HeadSet
2024 Mar 19, 12:07pm
HeadSet
2024 Mar 19, 12:07pm
GNL says
"Strong economy" is Donkey speak for "high inflation" when Biden is in power. Saying "We cannot lower rates when inflation is still high" sounds bad.
zzyzzx says
https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/01/investing/the-fed-may-not-cut-rates-this-year/index.html
The US economy is so strong that there might not be any rate cuts in 2024
How come it doesn't feel strong?
"Strong economy" is Donkey speak for "high inflation" when Biden is in power. Saying "We cannot lower rates when inflation is still high" sounds bad.
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zzyzzx
2024 Mar 20, 9:22am
zzyzzx
2024 Mar 20, 9:22am
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/federal-reserve-meeting-rate-cut-march-2024/
The Fed is meeting this week. Here's what experts are saying about the odds of a rate cut.
With the central bank meeting Wednesday, economists and consumers alike have one question on their minds: When will the central bank start cutting rates?
The answer: Almost certainly not this month, and probably not at its next meeting, according to Wall Street forecasters.
The Fed is meeting this week. Here's what experts are saying about the odds of a rate cut.
With the central bank meeting Wednesday, economists and consumers alike have one question on their minds: When will the central bank start cutting rates?
The answer: Almost certainly not this month, and probably not at its next meeting, according to Wall Street forecasters.
252
Blue
2024 Mar 20, 9:45am
zzyzzx says
Lot of Tech companies are giving warnings about slowing growth for the next 3 quarters. Perhaps other sectors might be doing ok!
https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/01/investing/the-fed-may-not-cut-rates-this-year/index.html
The US economy is so strong that there might not be any rate cuts in 2024
Lot of Tech companies are giving warnings about slowing growth for the next 3 quarters. Perhaps other sectors might be doing ok!
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AD
2024 Mar 20, 10:23am
AD
2024 Mar 20, 10:23am
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Googl is at 147 and all time high was 148 in November 2021.
Likely 150 to 155 is the ceiling price in 2024 for Googl if the economy does not accelerate any more, unless Googl does more cost cutting.
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Googl is at 147 and all time high was 148 in November 2021.
Likely 150 to 155 is the ceiling price in 2024 for Googl if the economy does not accelerate any more, unless Googl does more cost cutting.
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Misc
2024 Mar 20, 11:23am
Annnnnnnnnnnnnnd the rate stays the same as forecasted. Still looking at (3) 25 basis point cuts in 2024, but looking at only (3) cuts in 2025 from a previous estimated (4).
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/federal-reserve-holds-interest-rates-steady-maintains-forecast-for-3-rate-cuts-in-2024-180231430.html
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/federal-reserve-holds-interest-rates-steady-maintains-forecast-for-3-rate-cuts-in-2024-180231430.html
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zzyzzx
2024 Apr 3, 10:20am
zzyzzx
2024 Apr 3, 10:20am
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/04/03/atlanta-fed-president-bostic-sees-only-one-rate-cut-this-year-occurring-in-the-fourth-quarter.html
Atlanta Fed President Bostic sees only one rate cut this year, occurring in the fourth quarter
Atlanta Fed President Bostic sees only one rate cut this year, occurring in the fourth quarter
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zzyzzx
2024 Apr 4, 8:38am
zzyzzx
2024 Apr 4, 8:38am
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/04/03/feds-powell-emphasizes-need-for-more-evidence-that-inflation-is-easing-before-cutting-rates.html
Fed’s Powell emphasizes need for more evidence that inflation is easing before cutting rates
Fed’s Powell emphasizes need for more evidence that inflation is easing before cutting rates
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Al_Sharpton_for_President
2024 Apr 4, 8:44am
Al_Sharpton_for_President
2024 Apr 4, 8:44am
zzyzzx says
How about deflation to get prices back to where they were three years ago?
Fed’s Powell emphasizes need for more evidence that inflation is easing before cutting rates
How about deflation to get prices back to where they were three years ago?
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AD
2024 Apr 4, 12:05pm
AD
2024 Apr 4, 12:05pm
Al_Sharpton_for_President says
never going to happen as the Federal Reserve will not sit by idly and let prices drop
if you are lucky, then you may observe income rise at a slightly greater rate than guvmint-reported inflation
How about deflation to get prices back to where they were three years ago?
never going to happen as the Federal Reserve will not sit by idly and let prices drop
if you are lucky, then you may observe income rise at a slightly greater rate than guvmint-reported inflation
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GNL
2024 Apr 4, 2:48pm
GNL
2024 Apr 4, 2:48pm
AD says
That ain't gonna happen either. Not on a large scale anyway.
if you are lucky, then you may observe income rise at a slightly greater rate than guvmint-reported inflation
That ain't gonna happen either. Not on a large scale anyway.
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zzyzzx
2024 Apr 9, 8:47am
zzyzzx
2024 Apr 9, 8:47am
https://www.forbes.com/sites/dereksaul/2024/04/08/jamie-dimon-head-of-us-largest-bank-warns-of-8-interest-rates-along-with-recession/
Jamie Dimon—Head Of U.S.’ Largest Bank—Warns Of 8% Interest Rates Along With Recession
A chilly scenario for the U.S. economy, in which interest rates climb as high as 8% as the effects of the unprecedented monetary policy taken to combat inflation take hold, is still very much on the table, according to JPMorgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon.
The odds of a goldilocks soft landing outcome for the economy are “a lot lower” than the consensus of a 70% to 80% likelihood, Dimon outlined in his annual letter to JPMorgan shareholders Monday.
Coupled with Dimon’s concerns about the potential for “stagflation,” a recession characterized by lingering high inflation, he warned interest rates could soar to “8% or even more,” a far cry from the already 22-year high rates of over 5% and going against conventional wisdom of a looming decline in rates (U.S. interest rates have not been 8% or higher since 1990).
Dimon explained there are several “persistent inflationary pressures” which could keep price increases sticky, including the rise in military conflict globally and the lingering effects of aggressive policy from central banks worldwide coming out of the pandemic.
The billionaire Dimon also warned about the potential for carnage for both equity and debt investors should a higher-rate scenario play out, noting stock valuations are already at their “high end” and credit conditions are “extremely tight.”
Dimon’s warnings come as investor sentiment looks rosy—major stock indexes sit at record highs as the market eagerly awaits lower interest rates. JPMorgan is by far the largest American bank by assets and market value, holding roughly $2.7 trillion in domestic assets by the end of last year. Dimon is worth about $2.2 billion, according to Forbes’ latest estimates, owing most of his fortune to his stake in his bank. JPMorgan grew its already massive book by 6% last year thanks in part to its May 2023 acquisition of failed regional bank First Republic, a takeover Dimon characterized Monday as “something that we would have done just for ourselves” but rather a decision to stabilize the U.S. banking system writ large.
Jamie Dimon—Head Of U.S.’ Largest Bank—Warns Of 8% Interest Rates Along With Recession
A chilly scenario for the U.S. economy, in which interest rates climb as high as 8% as the effects of the unprecedented monetary policy taken to combat inflation take hold, is still very much on the table, according to JPMorgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon.
The odds of a goldilocks soft landing outcome for the economy are “a lot lower” than the consensus of a 70% to 80% likelihood, Dimon outlined in his annual letter to JPMorgan shareholders Monday.
Coupled with Dimon’s concerns about the potential for “stagflation,” a recession characterized by lingering high inflation, he warned interest rates could soar to “8% or even more,” a far cry from the already 22-year high rates of over 5% and going against conventional wisdom of a looming decline in rates (U.S. interest rates have not been 8% or higher since 1990).
Dimon explained there are several “persistent inflationary pressures” which could keep price increases sticky, including the rise in military conflict globally and the lingering effects of aggressive policy from central banks worldwide coming out of the pandemic.
The billionaire Dimon also warned about the potential for carnage for both equity and debt investors should a higher-rate scenario play out, noting stock valuations are already at their “high end” and credit conditions are “extremely tight.”
Dimon’s warnings come as investor sentiment looks rosy—major stock indexes sit at record highs as the market eagerly awaits lower interest rates. JPMorgan is by far the largest American bank by assets and market value, holding roughly $2.7 trillion in domestic assets by the end of last year. Dimon is worth about $2.2 billion, according to Forbes’ latest estimates, owing most of his fortune to his stake in his bank. JPMorgan grew its already massive book by 6% last year thanks in part to its May 2023 acquisition of failed regional bank First Republic, a takeover Dimon characterized Monday as “something that we would have done just for ourselves” but rather a decision to stabilize the U.S. banking system writ large.
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zzyzzx
2024 Apr 15, 11:44am
zzyzzx
2024 Apr 15, 11:44am
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/fed-hiking-rates-6-5-164050747.html
Fed Hiking Rates to 6.5% Is ‘Real Risk’ for UBS Strategists
Fed Hiking Rates to 6.5% Is ‘Real Risk’ for UBS Strategists
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HeadSet
2024 Apr 15, 1:00pm
HeadSet
2024 Apr 15, 1:00pm
zzyzzx says
(Bloomberg) -- The combination of strong US growth and sticky inflation is raising the odds the Federal Reserve hikes rather than cuts interest rates, bringing borrowing costs to as high as 6.5% next year, according to UBS Group AG strategists.
Good. It is pay now or fuel hyperinflation later.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/fed-hiking-rates-6-5-164050747.html
Fed Hiking Rates to 6.5% Is ‘Real Risk’ for UBS Strategists
(Bloomberg) -- The combination of strong US growth and sticky inflation is raising the odds the Federal Reserve hikes rather than cuts interest rates, bringing borrowing costs to as high as 6.5% next year, according to UBS Group AG strategists.
Good. It is pay now or fuel hyperinflation later.
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zzyzzx
2024 Apr 17, 8:16am
zzyzzx
2024 Apr 17, 8:16am
https://fortune.com/2024/04/16/fed-chair-jerome-powell-no-rate-cuts-this-year-markets/
Fed Chair Jerome Powell has an ‘unfriendly’ message for markets: You might not be getting any rate cuts this year
Fed Chair Jerome Powell has an ‘unfriendly’ message for markets: You might not be getting any rate cuts this year
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zzyzzx
2024 Apr 17, 8:25am
zzyzzx
2024 Apr 17, 8:25am
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-04-16/booming-us-economy-inspires-radical-theory-on-wall-street
What If Fed Rate Hikes Are Actually Sparking US Economic Boom?
As the US economy hums along month after month, minting hundreds of thousands of new jobs and confounding experts who had warned of an imminent downturn, some on Wall Street are starting to entertain a fringe economic theory.
What if, they ask, all those interest-rate hikes the past two years are actually boosting the economy? In other words, maybe the economy isn’t booming despite higher rates but rather because of them.
It’s an idea so radical that in mainstream academic and financial circles, it borders on heresy — the sort of thing that in the past only Turkey’s populist president, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, or the most zealous disciples of Modern Monetary Theory would dare utter publicly.
But the new converts — along with a handful who confess to being at least curious about the idea — say the economic evidence is becoming impossible to ignore. By some key gauges — GDP, unemployment, corporate profits — the expansion now is as strong or even stronger than it was when the Federal Reserve first began lifting rates.
What If Fed Rate Hikes Are Actually Sparking US Economic Boom?
As the US economy hums along month after month, minting hundreds of thousands of new jobs and confounding experts who had warned of an imminent downturn, some on Wall Street are starting to entertain a fringe economic theory.
What if, they ask, all those interest-rate hikes the past two years are actually boosting the economy? In other words, maybe the economy isn’t booming despite higher rates but rather because of them.
It’s an idea so radical that in mainstream academic and financial circles, it borders on heresy — the sort of thing that in the past only Turkey’s populist president, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, or the most zealous disciples of Modern Monetary Theory would dare utter publicly.
But the new converts — along with a handful who confess to being at least curious about the idea — say the economic evidence is becoming impossible to ignore. By some key gauges — GDP, unemployment, corporate profits — the expansion now is as strong or even stronger than it was when the Federal Reserve first began lifting rates.
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Al_Sharpton_for_President
2024 Apr 17, 8:35am
Al_Sharpton_for_President
2024 Apr 17, 8:35am
Yep. I tell panhandlers now to bugger off and invest in Treasuries.
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2024 Apr 17, 12:36pm
fdhfoiehfeoi
2024 Apr 17, 12:36pm
Al_Sharpton_for_President says
It doesn't matter anymore. The only asset the fed controls is depreciating at an ever accelerating pace. Prison or freedom, that's all that matters now.
50, 75, 100?
It doesn't matter anymore. The only asset the fed controls is depreciating at an ever accelerating pace. Prison or freedom, that's all that matters now.
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zzyzzx
2024 Apr 18, 6:53am
zzyzzx
2024 Apr 18, 6:53am
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/04/17/wall-street-pushes-out-rate-cut-expectations-sees-risk-of-no-action-until-2025.html
Wall Street pushes out rate-cut expectations, sees risk they don’t start until March 2025
Wall Street pushes out rate-cut expectations, sees risk they don’t start until March 2025
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HeadSet
2024 Apr 18, 9:10am
HeadSet
2024 Apr 18, 9:10am
zzyzzx says
Too soon.
Wall Street pushes out rate-cut expectations, sees risk they don’t start until March 2025
Too soon.
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"Historically, the US central bank has avoided surprising markets – say, by going 75bp when it is not priced in," Barclays economists led by Jonathan Millar said in a note to clients published Friday.
"But next week, we feel, is likely to be an exception."
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/inflation-puts-pressure-on-powell-what-to-know-this-week-162615319.html