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2022 Jul 22, 11:53am   17,213 views  153 comments

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Number of children by political affiliation.




Leftism is self-exterminating, but it will take a while, and they will continuously try to convert the children of conservatives to replenish their numbers.

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53   Patrick   2023 Jul 26, 7:45am  

https://sashalatypova.substack.com/p/population-control-policy


All this is to say, the “elites” are really-really serious about killing people and reducing the global population. No crime is to vile for them - they will stop at nothing, and they never have.

In conclusion, it is important to realize that there is no scientific or humanitarian basis in “public health policies” as they exists today in the United States and globally. That machinery exists to drive the population control policy. There is no scientific or humanitarian basis mandating vaccinations with now close to 100 different poisons. Vaccines do not create health. Yet, this is squarely among the UN’s “sustainable goals”.

The public health system must be dismantled, because it is a camouflaged warfare program actively engaged in controlling and killing civilians under emergency pretexts and lies.

There are no genuine, self-sustaining, global pandemic and epidemic threats. There are only localized, self-limiting CBRN attacks conducted (in the US) by the DoD-HHS-DHS-NSC-DOJ-et al, and conducted by DoD and other national militaries in other countries, under the direction of the World Health Organization and the BIS to reinforce the illusion of pandemics, to drive the camouflaged warfare programs forward, to control and kill more civilians.
54   Patrick   2023 Jul 30, 3:16pm  

https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/a-conversation-with-chat-gpt-re-population


A Conversation with Chat GPT re Population Control
and the lies an AI will tell to protect US Government policy

ROBERT W MALONE MD, MS
JUL 30, 2023

Last week I posted Gavin De Becker’s essay on the Kissinger report and National Security Study Memorandum NSSM 200, as well as links to those reports. In writing that report, Gavin used Chat GPT to try to find some answers to questions he had about the report and US government policy on population reduction.

Below is the text from the “discussion” that Gavin had with Chat GPT about population control and the Kissinger report. For brevity, I have only included last pages of the discussion, from where Gavin moves away from “fictional non-existent government” to the real USG. Here is the full link that the conversation. If you haven’t had an opportunity to use Chat GPT and wish to get some ideas on how to use it, this is a useful document to read.

I know that reading the pages below is a lot to get through - but if you can, at least speed read through the text. The bottom line is that Chat GPT seem to lie consistently and with ease, in an apparent attempt to cover up US government policy that somehow Chat GPT considers too controversial.

If this example doesn’t scare you straight about the dangers of AI – for even the most basic of everyday uses, I don’t know what will - RWM

(Gavin’s comments are in light brown) ...
59   Patrick   2023 Oct 26, 12:50pm  

https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/why-are-so-many-adults-in-rich-countries


Why are so many adults in rich countries refusing to have kids?
60   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2023 Oct 26, 5:05pm  

Patrick says


Why are so many adults in rich countries refusing to have kids?


Peter Zeihan has covered this a lot. His main answer: mass urbanization.

The more and faster it is, the sharper the drop off in having kids starts to be noticeable about two generations later.

US and Europe had slower urbanization, so this happened slower. Europe then had WW2 and rapid urbanization. So they pretty much stopped having enough babies since the mid 1970s.

US also had the suburbs, which helped delay this with Boomers and their kids. Then the Millennials went to live in the cities...

Asian nations, much more rapid because their industrialization was. Vietnam is demographicaly now where China was 30 ys ago. So by the 2040s, Vietnam will be in demographic free fall like China is now.

Only Japan has handled this in any remote way well.

France has too by having an extensive, pro-family support mechanism that costs a lot. Eastern Europeans like the Poles and Hungaruans have tried to emulate the French but with less results.

The Kiwis and Swedes haven't done bad either. Oz, not so much.
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So ironically, America's shitty cities turning into even shittier hellholes is a good thing. People are fleeing them for exurbs and smaller towns. Our demographic problems will start to correct themselves after a generation or two.
61   AD   2023 Oct 26, 8:22pm  

As Professor Larry Sabato says "Demographics is destiny"

Sweden is learning that firsthand.

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62   HeadSet   2023 Oct 27, 11:20am  

PumpingRedheads says

Our demographic problems will start to correct themselves after a generation or two.

We do not have a demographic problem, other than a flood of illiterates crossing the southern border.
63   yawaraf   2023 Oct 27, 11:36am  

It seems intuitive that population cannot increase forever. If so, it is necessary that for some time population will either be stable or will decrease. When conditions change the rate of change in population will also change.

I am also of the opinion that the problem is uncontrolled immigration. Setting a quota for quantity might be arbitrary, however we must reject nationalities/cultures/religions that have been shown to integrate poorly in American society.
64   AD   2023 Oct 28, 10:50am  

yawaraf says

I am also of the opinion that the problem is uncontrolled immigration. Setting a quota for quantity might be arbitrary, however we must reject nationalities/cultures/religions that have been shown to integrate poorly in American society.


Tucker Carlson is warning about this. He says the reason 3rd world immigrants come to America is that it is a free society with economic opportunity. When America becomes a 3rd world country, then Tucker states it will get a lot worse here as far as those immigrants.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/abrupt-change-coming-tucker-carlson-issues-dire-warning-america

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67   AmericanKulak   2023 Nov 24, 6:15pm  

yawaraf says


It seems intuitive that population cannot increase forever. If so, it is necessary that for some time population will either be stable or will decrease. When conditions change the rate of change in population will also change.

This is already happening. The US has been below replacement rate since the 60s/70s.

India is now AT replacement rate (pale green). Most of Europe, East Asia, Central and South Africa is below replacement. Most of the Middle East is way down to just above replacement.

It's just Africa that remains a problem, and the answer to that is to isolate Africa (no aid, little trade) and STOP IMMIGRATION to the West as a safety valve.

68   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2023 Nov 24, 6:31pm  

AmericanKulak says


This is already happening. The US has been below replacement rate since the 60s/70s.

India is now AT replacement rate (pale green). Most of Europe, East Asia, Central and South Africa is below replacement. Most of the Middle East is way down to just above replacement.


In both cases, you are looking at the whole population.

Should look at the cities vs rural areas. In India, births are dropping like a rock in the affluent cities but still pumping future roadside defecators at 3-4 per woman.

In the US, the difference is not so stark between them but still is enough. SF has had far more pet dogs than children for 20 years now. But in Utah..outside of SLC...those Mormons are pumping them out at or above replacement levels.

So do immigrants.

Democrats -- comprised of the pro-unborn murdering, college 'educated' MAYBE one child couples -- are literally DYING OFF. Reps are losing population but at least will have a future population.

And that difference will have meaning in the near future, trust me.

Demographics: Might not be EVERYTHING but sure as fuck comes close as far as a nation's future is concerned.
69   HeadSet   2023 Nov 25, 12:52pm  

AmericanKulak says

The US has been below replacement rate since the 60s/70s.

Then how in the heck did the population grow from 200 million to over 320 million?
70   AmericanKulak   2023 Nov 25, 2:03pm  

HeadSet says


Then how in the heck did the population grow from 200 million to over 320 million?

Millions of legal and illegal migrants a year.

There are ~45M recorded official immigrants in the US. Unofficial is easily about 30-40 million. Finsally, the millions of Visa holders from Student to H1B to Tourist that never return. Add in the tens of millions of "dreamers" children of immigrants from Asia and Africa and South/Central America, legal or illegal, and there's your number.

The current percentage of US population born aboard is just shy of 15%, near the all-time high of 14.9% in the 1890s. Back when we the GDP was expanding by (near) double digits annually, unlike today. And the immigrant pop was overwhelmingly European in origin back then.

The US Birthrate went to replacement rate in the late 60s and began dipping below that in the 1980s.
71   stereotomy   2023 Nov 25, 2:12pm  

AmericanKulak says

HeadSet says



Then how in the heck did the population grow from 200 million to over 320 million?

Millions of legal and illegal migrants a year.

There are ~40M recorded official immigrants in the US. Unofficial is easily 30 million. Then there are the unregistered children of illegals. Finsally, the millions of Visa holders from Student to H1B to Tourist that never return.

The US Birthrate went to replacement rate in the late 60s and began dipping below that in the 1980s.

Yes, when the great inflation turned families from one earner into two earner. Women working a full day dries up the pussy, so no evening lovin', morning wood, or mid-day "hummer" to prop up the birth rate.

This was stage one in the globohomo depopulation program.
72   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2023 Nov 25, 6:58pm  

stereotomy says


This was stage one in the globohomo depopulation program.


Stage One is an OOOLLLLDDDD story going back millennia.

This is just the current incarnation.

75   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2023 Dec 29, 9:45pm  

Patrick says

https://conspiracysarah.substack.com/p/lets-make-sure-we-never-have-another






we probably shouldn’t artificially create more births or import migrants nonstop. billions of people worldwide, and somehow for globalists there’s never enough slaves.
76   AmericanKulak   2023 Dec 30, 1:43am  

Entitlement is the reason.

India just passed a law that makes it "Harassment" for a mother-in-law to nag a married woman.
77   Patrick   2024 Jan 1, 1:42pm  

https://sagehana.substack.com/p/if-population-growth-didnt-slow-down


"If population growth didn't slow down, food shortages could be created in a hurry." In 1969, ex-Planned Parenthood Medical Director Richard Day Prophesied How the Globalist Agendas Would Unfold

Tape #2 Transcript is Astonishing in its Prescience. The disruption of the American Automotive Industry, Implantable IDs, TV surveillance. The use of war to control population is also explicit. ...

The following is an extended audiotaped account recollecting a 1969 talk given by an ex-Planned Parenthood Medical Director, Richard Day.

Day was preparing his audience of physicians for what was to come. He asked them not to take notes or record his session.

Day’s prophecies are chilling in their accuracy. Much of this is straight up WEFFIE Great Reset.

The parts on medicine, health care, surveillance, science and technology are especially resonant.
78   Patrick   2024 Jan 3, 6:45am  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/rogue-manholes-wednesday-january


Things aren’t going so well down at the central planning office. The Wall Street Journal ran a long-form, magazine-style story yesterday headlined, “China Is Pressing Women to Have More Babies. Many Are Saying No.” The sub-headline explained, “The population, now around 1.4 billion, is likely to drop to around half a billion by 2100—and women are being blamed.”

Women blamed? How about blaming the central planners?

The Journal included a handy chart showing that modern communists have been even more successful at decimating China’s population than was Chairman Mao in his wildest, most murderous, rice-wine-induced excesses of the Great Famine:




I’m old enough to remember both when China first imposed its draconian ‘one-child’ policy in 1980 and also when it lifted the policy thirty-five years later in 2015. Now, almost nine years later, apparently the country’s population is for all purposes stuck in irreversible decline. Chinese communists did too good a job of portraying childbearing as patriarchal oppression of empowered womanhood, and now many Chinese women are just over it:


When Beijing said it would abolish the one-child policy in 2015, officials expected a baby boom. Instead, they got a baby bust. (Chinese) women are increasingly reluctant to marry and have children, accelerating the population decline.
“Having had one child, I think I’ve done my duty,” Feng said. A second child, she said, would be too expensive. She said she tells relatives, “I can have another kid as long as you give me 300,000 yuan,” or around $41,000.
Molly Chen, 28 years old, said the demands of caring for aging relatives and her job as an exhibition designer in Shenzhen leave no room for kids or a husband. All she wants to do in her free moments is read or scroll through pet videos.


The Chinese communists used coercion to enforce childlessness, and they may have overshot the mark a little. Now they are faced with the unpleasant prospect of coercing women to bear children, which is much harder than stopping them in the first place. (In America, we don’t use coercion, we deploy bizarre CIA mind-games like confusing kids about their genders and offering them free, irreversible sterilization surgeries to help their identities conform to biological reality, or the other way around. Whichever.)

One surprising outcome of the baby bust was that China cracked down on abortions and even contraception...

In spite of all this, nobody has cared invoke the awful specter of The Handmaid’s Tale yet against President Xi. But as this story suggests, a dystopian Handmaid’s Tale society is much more likely to arise in a communist hellhole like China than in a free democracy. The ‘one-child’ policy was originally promoted by Chinese communists as ending patriarchal and discriminatory treatment of women under historic Confucianism. Now, the communist party and President Xi are stressing Confucian values like familial duties.

Don’t have babies! Wait, do have babies. I’ve said it before: if it weren’t for double standards, communists would have no standards at all.

If there’s a better illustration of the perils of central planning than China’s horrible population implosion problem, I don’t know what it could be. Ironically, women vote for marxist policies in the greatest numbers, but women always suffer the worst whenever marxists hold power. According to the articles, China’s Politburo includes no women in its top ranks.

China’s population demographic problems run deep. Optimistically, these problems may temper the country’s more aggressive military ambitions. In any event, the failure of one-child is another black eye for the Left.

Overall, 2024 is starting out very well for sane conservatism.
79   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Jan 3, 7:58am  

I love how ppl think demographic decline can be just fixed by having more babies starting now.

It's like they think babies are instant additions to the workforce right out of the womb or something.
80   HeadSet   2024 Jan 3, 11:52am  

UkraineIsFucked says

It's like they think babies are instant additions to the workforce right out of the womb or something.

That may be true in China.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xd6Shxz9UUs
81   AD   2024 Jan 3, 4:47pm  

Obviously a lower population growth means lesser demand for housing in the future relative to the housing supply.

I have read about new ways to care for the aging which uses technology and new innovative ways for the elderly to live in assisted living. This is required since there will be less supply of workers for assisted living and nursing homes.

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82   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Jan 3, 5:51pm  

ad says

I have read about new ways to care for the aging which uses technology and new innovative ways for the elderly to live in assisted living. This is required since there will be less supply of workers for assisted living and nursing


I have a family member who works in assisted living. No such tech is implemented, believe me.
83   AD   2024 Jan 3, 6:03pm  

UkraineIsFucked says

I have a family member who works in assisted living. No such tech is implemented, believe me.


One local assisted living uses smart watches and GPS tracking devices. I think they have ability to detect falls also with the available technologies.

They have Wyze cameras in every living space and common space.

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84   Misc   2024 Jan 3, 9:10pm  

ad says

UkraineIsFucked says


I have a family member who works in assisted living. No such tech is implemented, believe me.


One local assisted living uses smart watches and GPS tracking devices. I think they have ability to detect falls also with the available technologies.

They have Wyze cameras in every living space and common space.

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Heavy usage of sedatives is a common high-tech solution.
87   Patrick   2024 Feb 29, 2:56pm  

https://slaynews.com/news/japan-population-meltdown-two-people-dying-every-one-born/


Japan in Population Meltdown as Two People Now Dying for Every One Born

New data from the Japanese government shows that Japan’s population is continuing to spiral into an unsustainable meltdown.

Japan’s birth data for 2023 has just been published by the government and it shows the shocking crisis of the nation’s falling population appears to be accelerating.


The imposition of the death jab sure didn't help Japan's demographic crisis.
88   WookieMan   2024 Feb 29, 3:21pm  

Patrick says

https://supersally.substack.com/p/after-dropping-850000-in-2022-chinas





There's no one to fuck... In a 2nd world country men die first. Women will migrate to fuck. China is screwed. Apple is screwed. Anyone with a business there or association is screwed.

Trump put the wheels in motion. Biden somehow still did good things with the fallout. If we get Trump 2.0 I think China is toast. I think everything is coming back. Covid was a massive fuck up even if we were involved. We're decoupling. Mexico is where it's at. We basically have legalized drugs. So the cartel has lost a ton of money so they sell avocados... Either way, China is a shit show. Takes weeks to get anything out of there. Your cheap Chinese shit is going to stop coming and it might be sooner than you think.
89   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Feb 29, 8:13pm  

WookieMan says

Trump put the wheels in motion.


No. The ChiComs did with their one child policy.

WookieMan says

Your cheap Chinese shit is going to stop coming and it might be sooner than you think.


Yeah, because there will no longer be workers in Chinese factories.

No more polysilicon. No more rare earth refining. No more lithium batts and other EV/RE shit. No more low end computer chips (Internet of Things RIP).

Oh, and no more Apple products. Dunno why, but the dumfucks on Apple's board never figured out what the rest of the world has about China.
90   richwicks   2024 Feb 29, 8:17pm  

UkraineIsFucked says


No more low end computer chips (Internet of Things RIP).


I don't see how low end computer chips will ever go away. They are used in everything. Your TV has one, any device that connects to your TV has one, your phone, your car, anything that is electronic.

We'll have SOCs soon enough that cost $5 that will be perfectly usable as a main computer. We're surprisingly close to that now. Maybe $10, the dollar is eroding.

Chips are almost entirely manufactured in an automated process as well. That's why quality control is so high, and why they are so cheap. You run the factory 24 hours a day. There's just maintenance.
91   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Feb 29, 10:10pm  

richwicks says

I don't see how low end computer chips will ever go away.


It is simple: most of them is manufactured by China, Inc. And China Inc. Is going away.
92   richwicks   2024 Feb 29, 11:07pm  

UkraineIsFucked says


richwicks says


I don't see how low end computer chips will ever go away.


It is simple: most of them is manufactured by China, Inc. And China Inc. Is going away.



They are manufactured everywhere. TSMC is Taiwan, but Global Founderies, they are in NY and Malta. It's a question only of maintenance of the machines. You can build a plant anywhere.

IF China were to forcibly take over Taiwan (and they won't - the whole reason that the US is screaming about this being a possibility is that the US is SO FUCKING CORRUPT and embedded with the "Democratic Progressive Party" of Taiwan, that the Chinese Nationalist Party (reunification party) is going to win in time, and they want to reunify), that would be a small blip, but it would recover.

There are the two major semiconductor plants in the world, GF and TSMC. It doesn't matter where you make it, doesn't even change the cost of the product. I mean NO OFFENSE with this, but people who work at semiconductor plants, anybody can do it, they are like a janitor and are 100% replaceable. The plants are very automated. The PLANTS are tremendously expensive. We shouldn't have offshore plants at all at this point. There is no economic advantage.

You can use a mid-tier computer chip from 2000 as your main computer chip today, honestly. It would be hot, it would waste energy, but it would be fine for you to use, but it would be more expensive to run and not suitable as a device to run on a battery. Just a standard computer. All we REALLY have today is smaller gates (that correlates to lower power consumption, and higher speed), more memory (this allows shittier coding, which reduced non-recoverable engineering cost), and bigger cache (this is higher speed).

There is nothing I can do today I couldn't do 20 years ago, it's just faster. I used to watch films on my computer in 2000. I didn't have some amazing system them, I had a standard system, but DVD's were dead to me then.

I used to use Skype back then, I think in the early 2000's, when "long distance" still existed.

All this bullshit and components and crap, those are gone. Your phone can replace them all, even if you bought your phone at 7/11.

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