Democrats exist today due to Republicans respect for the 1st amendment right
2022 Jul 29, 1:38pm 1,814 views 49 comments
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mell
2022 Jul 30, 2:45pm
richwicks says
In principal I agree with many of your statements, and communism is just fascism with red paint. All good and well. But even if you disregard boxes such as left and right, they are applicable for long periods and have a mutually understood meaning during those periods, and if you wanted to get away from whatever is oppressing society you have to start somewhere. It's irrelevant for your ultimate goal that there are oppressing forces within the Republican party as well, RINOs, uniparty big government hacks, whatever you may call them, the fact is that if Republicans would sweep into office tomorrow, the US would suddenly regain a lot of lost civil liberties. The Trump, tea party, anti-establishment arms of the party would never allow such sweeping oppression of civil liberties we have seen since the xiden administration "took over" (in fact the leftoids are shrieking that the xiden admin is not communist/marxist/oppressive enough). So there is your start, then from there you can work actively against the remaining oppressive/uniparty forces in the now governing Republican party and try to throw as much of the RINOs out as possible. You will get much faster to your goal of a free society than bitching about both parties, forming a 3rd party, or trying to rebel against the leftoid government whose ultimate goal is to put you into jail or internment camp forever. It's unfathomable to reject massive change for the better just because you will have scumbags in the new government as well. This will always be the case, but the current Demonrat party is very close to the National Socialist party, Maoist party, Khmer Rouge, Stalinists and Leninists/Marxists and all those other parties who did not tolerate dissent even within their own party and whose goal was to destroy as many political opponents as possible and establish a reign of terror. Just look at the primaries, The Republican primaries are often close calls and it's hard to predict the winners whereas for the preselected Demonrat politbureau apparatschiks winning with 80% or more of the vote is a given, similar to the 80/90 million votes apparatschik xiden "magically" got. There is not even a iota of Republic or Democracy within the Demonrat party, it's full on communism/marxism, so don't tell me they are the same as the Republicans. They aren't.
mell says
Just because you keep repeating it doesn't make it true.
At the end of the day, it doesn't really matter. I can go through all the statistical anomalies, all the laws that were illegally changed, the ballot discrepancies, the fact that Biden still can't get 1/2 dozen people in a room to listen to him, point out that Trump STILL will fill football stadiums. It doesn't matter, we got what we normally get, a complete puppet. This is why the 25th amendment is never bought up, it doesn't matter. We may as well have George W. Bush OR Obama as president. Same thing.
mell says
Claiming the right was as bad as the left today is like comparing jailing a protester at a former Republican event for one night to the jailing of the Jan 6 protesters for nearing a year under horrible condition
In principal I agree with many of your statements, and communism is just fascism with red paint. All good and well. But even if you disregard boxes such as left and right, they are applicable for long periods and have a mutually understood meaning during those periods, and if you wanted to get away from whatever is oppressing society you have to start somewhere. It's irrelevant for your ultimate goal that there are oppressing forces within the Republican party as well, RINOs, uniparty big government hacks, whatever you may call them, the fact is that if Republicans would sweep into office tomorrow, the US would suddenly regain a lot of lost civil liberties. The Trump, tea party, anti-establishment arms of the party would never allow such sweeping oppression of civil liberties we have seen since the xiden administration "took over" (in fact the leftoids are shrieking that the xiden admin is not communist/marxist/oppressive enough). So there is your start, then from there you can work actively against the remaining oppressive/uniparty forces in the now governing Republican party and try to throw as much of the RINOs out as possible. You will get much faster to your goal of a free society than bitching about both parties, forming a 3rd party, or trying to rebel against the leftoid government whose ultimate goal is to put you into jail or internment camp forever. It's unfathomable to reject massive change for the better just because you will have scumbags in the new government as well. This will always be the case, but the current Demonrat party is very close to the National Socialist party, Maoist party, Khmer Rouge, Stalinists and Leninists/Marxists and all those other parties who did not tolerate dissent even within their own party and whose goal was to destroy as many political opponents as possible and establish a reign of terror. Just look at the primaries, The Republican primaries are often close calls and it's hard to predict the winners whereas for the preselected Demonrat politbureau apparatschiks winning with 80% or more of the vote is a given, similar to the 80/90 million votes apparatschik xiden "magically" got. There is not even a iota of Republic or Democracy within the Demonrat party, it's full on communism/marxism, so don't tell me they are the same as the Republicans. They aren't.
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richwicks
2022 Jul 30, 3:43pm
richwicks
2022 Jul 30, 3:43pm
mell says
Start with what is true and false. Left and right was created by a our government, our masters, that's why we're taught the political spectrum is a line. It isn't. It's true versus false. Does socialism work? Well, it can with considerable oversight of the government and open accounting and accountability. Then it works. Americans don't even bother to TRY to be informed, so it can't work here.
mell says
What is a "republican"? If everybody in the DNC in power today were lined up against a wall and shot, or the all just retired or whatever, I'd argue nothing would change. When a carnival barker was elected over a Neocon bloodthirsty mass murderer - the only thing that changed (but a useful thing to change) was the rhetoric. All Trump did was say "these are the problems, Americans - here they are, all laid out, look".
mell says
They're letting it happen now. They let the election get stolen. When has Trump said anything about the 800 political prisoners in jail right now? Who in Congress is talking about them?
Most people just don't fucking care. "Leftoids" don't care.
mell says
Watch some Neocon RINO piece of shit somehow win the republican primary in 2024. It COULD be DeSantis, you might find out he was always controlled opposition.
I've been watching this shit show pretty closely for 20 years, 2 decades. Our government is total garbage. Our media has been complete propaganda that entire time, our congress is totally corrupt, our intelligence agencies are working against the nation and the public, and our DOJ is totally corrupt. It's NOT changed in 20 years. It's just becoming more difficult to ignore, and by god, it's hard to get people to pay attention.
It's gone, we're fucked now. The entire world is talking about "building back better" - don't believe me?
https://twitter.com/berniespofforth/status/1552786964759384069
This is a global plan. Who is pointing that out?
We went through a fake pandemic, there may very well have been a virus, but there was no emergency. There's something afoot, who will tell you? Isn't it funny with our "free and fair press" it's not mentioned? Not to me. I understand how the world works, finally. It's just a criminal syndicate, and looking for a PARTY to change it, that's naive. They're part of the criminal syndicate.
Remember Dennis Hastert? He was Speaker of the United States House of Representatives under George W. Bush, and a pedophile. How did he manage to get to that position? It's BECAUSE he was a pedophile, he was being blackmailed, and people made it certain that a completely compromised man climbed up the ladder, with lots of help.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Hastert
That's our government. Oh, and Hastert was never prosecuted for his rapes, although one of his victims killed himself. He spent some time in prison because of some financial BS - he was paying off his victims. He was prosecuted for that.
In principal I agree with many of your statements, and communism is just fascism with red paint. All good and well. But even if you disregard boxes such as left and right, they are applicable for long periods and have a mutually understood meaning during those periods, and if you wanted to get away from whatever is oppressing society you have to start somewhere.
Start with what is true and false. Left and right was created by a our government, our masters, that's why we're taught the political spectrum is a line. It isn't. It's true versus false. Does socialism work? Well, it can with considerable oversight of the government and open accounting and accountability. Then it works. Americans don't even bother to TRY to be informed, so it can't work here.
mell says
the fact is that if Republicans would sweep into office tomorrow, the US would suddenly regain a lot of lost civil liberties.
What is a "republican"? If everybody in the DNC in power today were lined up against a wall and shot, or the all just retired or whatever, I'd argue nothing would change. When a carnival barker was elected over a Neocon bloodthirsty mass murderer - the only thing that changed (but a useful thing to change) was the rhetoric. All Trump did was say "these are the problems, Americans - here they are, all laid out, look".
mell says
The Trump, tea party, anti-establishment arms of the party would never allow such sweeping oppression of civil liberties we have seen since the xiden administration "took over" (in fact the leftoids are shrieking that the xiden admin is not communist/marxist/oppressive enough).
They're letting it happen now. They let the election get stolen. When has Trump said anything about the 800 political prisoners in jail right now? Who in Congress is talking about them?
Most people just don't fucking care. "Leftoids" don't care.
mell says
so don't tell me they are the same as the Republicans. They aren't.
Watch some Neocon RINO piece of shit somehow win the republican primary in 2024. It COULD be DeSantis, you might find out he was always controlled opposition.
I've been watching this shit show pretty closely for 20 years, 2 decades. Our government is total garbage. Our media has been complete propaganda that entire time, our congress is totally corrupt, our intelligence agencies are working against the nation and the public, and our DOJ is totally corrupt. It's NOT changed in 20 years. It's just becoming more difficult to ignore, and by god, it's hard to get people to pay attention.
It's gone, we're fucked now. The entire world is talking about "building back better" - don't believe me?
https://twitter.com/berniespofforth/status/1552786964759384069
This is a global plan. Who is pointing that out?
We went through a fake pandemic, there may very well have been a virus, but there was no emergency. There's something afoot, who will tell you? Isn't it funny with our "free and fair press" it's not mentioned? Not to me. I understand how the world works, finally. It's just a criminal syndicate, and looking for a PARTY to change it, that's naive. They're part of the criminal syndicate.
Remember Dennis Hastert? He was Speaker of the United States House of Representatives under George W. Bush, and a pedophile. How did he manage to get to that position? It's BECAUSE he was a pedophile, he was being blackmailed, and people made it certain that a completely compromised man climbed up the ladder, with lots of help.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Hastert
That's our government. Oh, and Hastert was never prosecuted for his rapes, although one of his victims killed himself. He spent some time in prison because of some financial BS - he was paying off his victims. He was prosecuted for that.
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mell
2022 Jul 30, 4:09pm
richwicks says
So what? Hastert was a prick who belonged in jail but he did not oppress the majority of Americans. You keep bringing up single cases, we know politicians are often corrupt but there is no comparison between Repubs and Demonrats. Also Trump didn't let it just happen, he made many mistakes like we all do but there is a personal limit on how much a person and their family can take. Again, pointing out that nobody is without sin doesn't mean that it's not worth voting - or promoting - Republican this fall, it definitely is. Not doing so while claiming moral grounds is impractical, you aid the current terror regime imo, even though it's not your intention. It's your right but you should reconsider
mell says
In principal I agree with many of your statements, and communism is just fascism with red paint. All good and well. But even if you disregard boxes such as left and right, they are applicable for long periods and have a mutually understood meaning during those periods, and if you wanted to get away from whatever is oppressing society you have to start somewhere.
Start with what is true and false. Left and right was created by a our government, our masters, that's why we're taught the political spectrum is a line. It isn't. It's true versus false. Does socialism work? Well, it can with considerable oversight of the government and open accounting and accountability. Then it works. Americans don't even bother to TRY to be informed, so it can't work here.
mell says
the fact is that if Repu...
So what? Hastert was a prick who belonged in jail but he did not oppress the majority of Americans. You keep bringing up single cases, we know politicians are often corrupt but there is no comparison between Repubs and Demonrats. Also Trump didn't let it just happen, he made many mistakes like we all do but there is a personal limit on how much a person and their family can take. Again, pointing out that nobody is without sin doesn't mean that it's not worth voting - or promoting - Republican this fall, it definitely is. Not doing so while claiming moral grounds is impractical, you aid the current terror regime imo, even though it's not your intention. It's your right but you should reconsider
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richwicks
2022 Jul 30, 10:01pm
richwicks
2022 Jul 30, 10:01pm
mell says
The majority of Americans didn't support a war that George W. Bush lied us into. George W. Bush should have been executed for what he did.
I'm pointing out that Hastert was placed into his position BECAUSE he was a pedophile. Just as Jeffrey Epstein was. Epstein wasn't a wall street genius, he was an intelligence asset. Where did all his assets go to when he died. Who owns all the shit he SUPPOSEDLY owned?
mell says
Again, are you talking about the people or the parties? Neither party represents their foolish adherents. They are given a choice between Giant Douche, and Turd Sandwich over and over again.
mell says
I don't know. I'm used to illusions, so I cannot say whether Trump was controlled opposition, or the real deal. I can't tell. I hope you're right, I hope you're correct, but I've seen false opposition so many times. Bernie Sanders was false opposition, Pocahontas was - she railed against the banking bailouts. The real opposition, they were murdered. James Traficant I think was the real deal.
I do not know. I understand my limit to knowledge. I only find out what is true YEARS later when it no longer matters.
mell says
I'm not going to vote for the fucking democrats in the next election.
I'm trying to point out it it's very likely it doesn't matter how we vote.
These assholes do not represent us. I have some SLIM hope they do, but they don't represent us. YOU represent people, I do. Many people here do, but to rise in the ranks, you have to sell out everybody, every principle. I have very little hope there's anything ALLOWED to run that isn't a traitorous piece of shit.
AOC was going to "change things", so was Ilhan Omar - they are just Neocon cunts. More false opposition. I am not either a republican or a democrat, but I saw the hope the democrats (foolishly) had in them. They are just fucking go along to get along whores. They're purchased.
We are betrayed again and again and again. I expect the same in the next election, regardless of the outcome. Intelligence agencies run this nation, we don't.
So what? Hastert was a prick who belonged in jail but he did not oppress the majority of Americans.
The majority of Americans didn't support a war that George W. Bush lied us into. George W. Bush should have been executed for what he did.
I'm pointing out that Hastert was placed into his position BECAUSE he was a pedophile. Just as Jeffrey Epstein was. Epstein wasn't a wall street genius, he was an intelligence asset. Where did all his assets go to when he died. Who owns all the shit he SUPPOSEDLY owned?
mell says
You keep bringing up single cases, we know politicians are often corrupt but there is no comparison between Repubs and Demonrats.
Again, are you talking about the people or the parties? Neither party represents their foolish adherents. They are given a choice between Giant Douche, and Turd Sandwich over and over again.
mell says
Also Trump didn't let it just happen, he made many mistakes like we all do but there is a personal limit on how much a person and their family can take.
I don't know. I'm used to illusions, so I cannot say whether Trump was controlled opposition, or the real deal. I can't tell. I hope you're right, I hope you're correct, but I've seen false opposition so many times. Bernie Sanders was false opposition, Pocahontas was - she railed against the banking bailouts. The real opposition, they were murdered. James Traficant I think was the real deal.
I do not know. I understand my limit to knowledge. I only find out what is true YEARS later when it no longer matters.
mell says
Again, pointing out that nobody is without sin doesn't mean that it's not worth voting - or promoting - Republican this fall, it definitely is. Not doing so while claiming moral grounds is impractical, you aid the current terror regime imo, even though it's not your intention. It's your right but you should reconsider
I'm not going to vote for the fucking democrats in the next election.
I'm trying to point out it it's very likely it doesn't matter how we vote.
These assholes do not represent us. I have some SLIM hope they do, but they don't represent us. YOU represent people, I do. Many people here do, but to rise in the ranks, you have to sell out everybody, every principle. I have very little hope there's anything ALLOWED to run that isn't a traitorous piece of shit.
AOC was going to "change things", so was Ilhan Omar - they are just Neocon cunts. More false opposition. I am not either a republican or a democrat, but I saw the hope the democrats (foolishly) had in them. They are just fucking go along to get along whores. They're purchased.
We are betrayed again and again and again. I expect the same in the next election, regardless of the outcome. Intelligence agencies run this nation, we don't.
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FuckTheMainstreamMedia
2022 Jul 31, 7:31am
FuckTheMainstreamMedia
2022 Jul 31, 7:31am
richwicks says
Govt job so it would go through progressive discipline, but if I kept repeating in the work place that there’s only two genders, I would be terminated from my employment. One of the largest employers in the state of California.
mell says
richwicks says
The Bush administration and the media openly engaged in a logical fallacy by switching the burden of proof. YOU WOULD KNOW THIS, if people weren't being censored explaining this to you 20 years ago. Now that it no longer matters, it an be discussed.
Agree with the first sentence. Disagree on the censorship, still haven't seen examples of people broadly being fired for opposing the war
Name the highest profile person you can think of that has been fired from a job for refusing to say that there are only 2 genders.
Again Phil Donahue was fired because he would not repeat the lies of the Bush administration.
This is not a left or right issue - we have a criminal syndicate as our government, and left and right is just a facade. It's a mask t...
Govt job so it would go through progressive discipline, but if I kept repeating in the work place that there’s only two genders, I would be terminated from my employment. One of the largest employers in the state of California.
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richwicks
2022 Jul 31, 10:05am
richwicks
2022 Jul 31, 10:05am
FuckTheMainstreamMedia says
In the last 2 years, I have decided not to work for insane, fascist, lunatic corporations.
I'm watching major corporation die because instead of hiring competent people, they are hiring compliant people.
META is going to be a shitshow. Google is dying. Twitter is a joke, and obviously being funded in some underhanded way, censorship and propaganda IS their function. Intel and AMD are fucking dead, nobody needs or wants a faster CPU or even a better GPU.
Technology starts out as being something governments adopt, then corporations adopt, then finally people. A computer equivalent to a top of the machine in 2000, perfectly adequate machine for your use, cost $75 now, with 125GB of storage. It looks like this:
We're in for some big changes ahead and these giant tech companies, they are fucking dinosaurs. Nobody needs a search engine that just points you to propaganda. Nobody needs a video site that just keeps pushing you to propaganda and narratives. Our establishment news sources, they're dead, you can see them dying. CNN has less than 1 million viewers at any moment, how the FUCK do they manage to pay some asshole like Anderson Cooper 15 million dollars a year for his "job"? That is seriously is last known salary, how does CNN afford to pay that with only 1 million people paying attention to them? That would mean that every viewer is paying $15 in some form to watch their bullshit per year.
You might get fired for saying 2 genders exist at your job? You're on the Titanic dude. Get off. This isn't republican/democrat - it's obedience to a centralized authority that's insane. Somebody has to pay for all this shit - who?
Govt job so it would go through progressive discipline, but if I kept repeating in the work place that there’s only two genders, I would be terminated from my employment. One of the largest employers in the state of California.
In the last 2 years, I have decided not to work for insane, fascist, lunatic corporations.
I'm watching major corporation die because instead of hiring competent people, they are hiring compliant people.
META is going to be a shitshow. Google is dying. Twitter is a joke, and obviously being funded in some underhanded way, censorship and propaganda IS their function. Intel and AMD are fucking dead, nobody needs or wants a faster CPU or even a better GPU.
Technology starts out as being something governments adopt, then corporations adopt, then finally people. A computer equivalent to a top of the machine in 2000, perfectly adequate machine for your use, cost $75 now, with 125GB of storage. It looks like this:
We're in for some big changes ahead and these giant tech companies, they are fucking dinosaurs. Nobody needs a search engine that just points you to propaganda. Nobody needs a video site that just keeps pushing you to propaganda and narratives. Our establishment news sources, they're dead, you can see them dying. CNN has less than 1 million viewers at any moment, how the FUCK do they manage to pay some asshole like Anderson Cooper 15 million dollars a year for his "job"? That is seriously is last known salary, how does CNN afford to pay that with only 1 million people paying attention to them? That would mean that every viewer is paying $15 in some form to watch their bullshit per year.
You might get fired for saying 2 genders exist at your job? You're on the Titanic dude. Get off. This isn't republican/democrat - it's obedience to a centralized authority that's insane. Somebody has to pay for all this shit - who?
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