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43   Hircus   2022 Aug 11, 10:54am  

Onvacation says

My analyses of the data indicates very few comorbidities contributed to the death toll, which is the opposite of what we saw and common sense would indicate. You can see in this chart that 90% of the WITH people died FROM covid.


I agree. Like I said, I would think deaths with comorbidities would be the majority, but the data according to your definitions shows the opposite. I'm assuming you didn't accidentally swap the data columns.

Have you done any research into what specifically those columns mean? I think you might be making faulty assumptions about what those 2 categories mean. I've dealt with a decent amount of data sets in my life, and often the title of some column of data does not well describe the data - they're often wildly different, and frequently leads to "WTF why is it named this???". So many times a column has a simple name but ends up being a mishmash of other stuff added and removed as time went on and business rules evolved, eventually leading to bizarre column names and combinations of columns, including historical columns that store a previous version that is included for backwards compat or different use cases. That might be the case here. How do you know which category includes comorbidities, and which comorbidities, and under which scenarios, each column covers? They may BOTH cover comorbidities for all we know, but have some different rules.
44   Onvacation   2022 Aug 11, 10:59am  

Hircus says

Have you done any research into what specifically those columns mean? I think you might be making faulty assumptions about what those 2 categories mean.

The data dictionary CDC provided is vague. I tried to find more info online with no luck.
45   Onvacation   2022 Aug 11, 11:01am  

Hircus says

How do you know which category includes comorbidities, and which comorbidities, and under which scenarios, each column covers? They may BOTH cover comorbidities for all we know, but have some different rules.

The data does not include info on comorbidities.
46   stereotomy   2022 Aug 11, 11:07am  

I think the worldwide proliferation of live on camera collapses and deaths of hundreds of major and minor media celebrities would be enough evidence for anyone with two functioning brain cells that the clot shot is a killer more than a cure.

None of these people, as well as anyone in the medical profession, is allowed to admit the reason for the collapse and/or deaths.

I believe that the principle of "absence of evidence is not evidence of absence" can be suspended during this time of universal, ubiquitous censorship.

This shit is going on, it is real, it is coming for you and everyone you love. Though you might have your heads in the sand, they can still stick you with the clot shot in your collective asses, or is that in fact your brains?
47   Patrick   2022 Aug 11, 1:15pm  

Al_Sharpton_for_President says


However, once infected and hospitalized in intensive care, case-fatality ratios were high for all adults, especially in those over 60 years.


A cynical person might think the tens of thousands of dollars in federal funding per patient to administer lethal treatments like ventilators and Remdesivir had something to do with this.
48   Ceffer   2022 Aug 11, 2:51pm  

All we know is that when Remdesivir doesn't do the trick in the ICU units, they have huge supplies of "The Pillow Man" pillows to finish the job.
49   Onvacation   2022 Aug 11, 6:41pm  

It sure would be interesting to get a simple database with every victim of Covid-19.

NAME | BIRTHDATE | DEATHDATE | ADDRESS | TREATMENTS | COMORBIDITIES

Looked for it but couldn't find it. There were only a million US victims. It would not be hard to do and a lot of questions could be answered.
50   HeadSet   2022 Aug 12, 2:59pm  

Onvacation says

Looked for it but couldn't find it.

Now you will be audited.
51   Onvacation   2022 Aug 12, 5:46pm  

HeadSet says

Now you will be audited.

We're all on the list now. Process crimes are now worse than robbery.
52   Patrick   2024 Aug 17, 11:33am  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/impactful-saturday-august-17-2024


In a way, the science mags are running into the same problem media had back during covid, when every new, more terrifying variant, arriving like clockwork every eight-point-three minutes, stretched the journalistic thesaurus to the breaking point. Alarming, dire, dangerous, dreadful, fearsome, formidable, horrifying, and so on until they reached the end of the alphabet: worrisome.

Then they went back to the beginning and started over, patiently and methodically working their way back through the letters, but Newsweek prematurely jumped the queue and ejected the “Doomsday variant.” It was all downhill from there, and reporters limply accepted they’d shot their wad and became a spent force.

This phenomenon is only ‘new’ in the sense that, as we’ve become increasingly mentally vaccinated to media alarmism through a long-term desensitization process, they’ve steadily increased the frightfulness-volume setting to a deafening ’11.’

I fondly recall how, back in the halcyon 90’s, enjoying the post-Soviet peace dividend, media would run much simpler doomsday stories like “Formica: The Silent Killer.” Or my personal, all-time favorite, even beyond covid (to which I’ve now devoted a substantial chunk of my career), the Venn-diagram convergence of about six attention-grabbing media gambits: “Is Your Bra Killing You?”
54   Patrick   2025 Apr 12, 10:28pm  

https://www.newsweek.com/america-covid-response-was-based-lies-opinion-1785177


America's COVID Response Was Based on Lies

By Scott W. Atlas
Senior Fellow, Hoover Institution

... We must acknowledge the abject failure of the Birx-Fauci policies. They were enacted, but they failed to stop the dying, failed to stop the infection from spreading, and inflicted massive damage and destruction particularly on lower-income families and on America's children. ...

Numerous experts—including John Ioannidis, David Katz, and myself—called for targeted protection, a safer alternative to widespread lockdowns, in national media beginning in March of 2020. That proposal was rejected. History's biggest public health policy failure came at the hands of those who recommended the lockdowns and those who implemented them, not those who advised otherwise.

The tragic failure of reckless, unprecedented lockdowns that were contrary to established pandemic science, and the added massive harms of those policies on children, the elderly, and lower-income families, are indisputable and well-documented in numerous studies. This was the biggest, the most tragic, and the most unethical breakdown of public health leadership in modern history.

In a democracy, indeed in any ethical and free society, the truth is essential. The American people need to hear the truth—the facts, free from the political distortions, misrepresentations, and censorship. The first step is to clearly state the harsh truth in the starkest possible terms. Lies were told. Those lies harmed the public. Those lies were directly contrary to the evidence, to decades of knowledge on viral pandemics, and to long-established fundamental biology.

Here are the 10 biggest falsehoods—known for years to be false, not recently learned or proven to be so—promoted by America's public health leaders, elected and unelected officials, and now-discredited academics:

1. SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus has a far higher fatality rate than the flu by several orders of magnitude.

2. Everyone is at significant risk to die from this virus.

3. No one has any immunological protection, because this virus is completely new.

4. Asymptomatic people are major drivers of the spread.

5. Locking down—closing schools and businesses, confining people to their homes, stopping non-COVID medical care, and eliminating travel—will stop or eliminate the virus.

6. Masks will protect everyone and stop the spread.

7. The virus is known to be naturally occurring, and claiming it originated in a lab is a conspiracy theory.

8. Teachers are at especially high risk.

9. COVID vaccines stop the spread of the infection.

10. Immune protection only comes from a vaccine.

None of us are so naïve as to expect a direct apology from critics at my employer, Stanford University, or in government, academic public health, and the media. But to ensure that this never happens again, government leaders, power-driven officials, and influential academics and advisors often harboring conflicts of interest must be held accountable.
55   Ceffer   2025 Apr 12, 10:31pm  

It wasn't based on LIES, it was based on PSYOPS. That is how it is listed in 'Satan's Inversion Dictionary and Thesaurus".

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