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Maybe they are using all 87,000 new agents to go after Hunter Biden.

AmericanKulak says

Target the Hos, many of whom are claiming they make little to nothing as "students" and applying for food stamps and HUD.

This is just how it starts out. They will go after people whom the public thinks "well... They deserve it!", and it will be "conservatives" that agree with it. It will be them next.

Get the dummies to agree with it, then attack the dummies by applying the same exact LEGAL principles. How many times have they done this?

It was "conservatives" 20 years ago saying people should be silenced because they were traitors not supporting the Iraq War. They didn't have to play that card, and it may have expired by now, but it wasn't "duh left" that was screaming for censorship first.

I agree to tax them hoes.
“It’s fuck or walk baby.”

richwicks says

It was "conservatives" 20 years ago saying people should be silenced because they were traitors not supporting the Iraq War.

I do not remember anyone against the war being silenced. In fact, plenty of editorials were against the war. TV screens were plastered with "No Blood for Oil." protesters. I also remember plenty of Dems rushing to declare their support for the war and giving the President the authority to attack. That was not a "conservatives silencing dissent" issue.

HeadSet says

I do not remember anyone against the war being silenced.

Bill Maher? Probably not conservatives kicked him off the show although I do not recall

HeadSet says

richwicks says

It was "conservatives" 20 years ago saying people should be silenced because they were traitors not supporting the Iraq War.

I do not remember anyone against the war being silenced. In fact, plenty of editorials were against the war. TV screens were plastered with "No Blood for Oil." protesters. I also remember plenty of Dems rushing to declare their support for the war and giving the President the authority to attack. That was not a "conservatives silencing dissent" issue.

I was in the thick of it. There was plenty of pressure to silence dissenters.

The democratic party, in majority, voted against the Authorization to Use Force, but Clinton didn't, John Kerry didn't, Joe Biden didn't.

HeadSet says

I do not remember anyone against the war being silenced. In fact, plenty of editorials were against the war. TV screens were plastered with "No Blood for Oil." protesters. I also remember plenty of Dems rushing to declare their support for the war and giving the President the authority to attack. That was not a "conservatives silencing dissent" issue.

That's my memory. I remember seeing rafters packed with college kids against the war, Hollywood Celebs, Politicians, etc. were against it and were on TV Regularly - including on Fox News - making their case both in the runup and aftermath.

60% of House Democrats voted against the Authorization for Use of Force in Iraq, over 120 representatives.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authorization_for_Use_of_Military_Force_Against_Iraq_Resolution_of_2002

From Leahy to Sarbanes to Inouye to the Fat Lyin' of the Senate, Kennedy, 29 Senators voted against it too.

Contrast that with COVID, Drag Queens in Schools, etc. which had no debate and/or done in stealth. In the 90s and 2000s, debate-format style shows were the norm from PMSNBC to Fox.

AmericanKulak says

HeadSet says

I do not remember anyone against the war being silenced. In fact, plenty of editorials were against the war. TV screens were plastered with "No Blood for Oil." protesters. I also remember plenty of Dems rushing to declare their support for the war and giving the President the authority to attack. That was not a "conservatives silencing dissent" issue.

That's my memory. I remember seeing rafters packed with college kids against the war, Hollywood Celebs, Politicians, etc. were against it and were on TV Regularly - including on Fox News - making their case both in the runup and aftermath.

60% of House Democrats voted against the Authorization for Use of Force in Iraq, over 120 representatives.
https://en.wi.../

There wasn't any silencing, the right never silenced like the left does. This is hogwash. Plenty of ads and resolutions and protests against the war.

mell says

There wasn't any silencing, the right never silenced like the left does. This is hogwash. Plenty of ads and resolutions and protests against the war.

I don't care to argue this. Believe what you like.

The Iraq War has nothing on Modern Day Censorship. Even on Fox, there were Iraq War detractors on prime time daily making the case against the War.

Whereas with the Hunter Laptop, there was never one person on the MSM making the case it was indeed real, and in fact, Miranda Divine and the NY Post were banned from Social Media for spreading it as "Misinformation". Fox News has a ban on 2020 Election Irregularities, as do most nationally syndicated radio.

richwicks says

They will go after people whom the public thinks "well... They deserve it!", and it will be "conservatives" that agree with it. It will be them next.

They can "go after me" all day every day and still suck a fat one.

Patrick says

You sure BP not allowed to use deadly force in self-defense? I call BS. If a LEO of any kind is issued a weapon he absolutely can use it in a self-defense situation. No, he can't just shoot illegals for crossing the border, but neither can IRS agent shoot an OnlyFans "star" for not paying taxes. Conclusion: "Bolen" is a stupid cunt.

richwicks says

It was "conservatives" 20 years ago saying people should be silenced because they were traitors not supporting the Iraq War. They didn't have to play that card, and it may have expired by now, but it wasn't "duh left" that was screaming for censorship first.

Iraq is over. I don't disagree with your stance, but you bring it up all the time in conversation that has nothing to do with it as a point. Just say the IRS is bull shit. You don't trust government. Ukraine and our funding will likely end up exponentially worse for American citizens. Iraq is a joke at this point. It happened. But it's time to move on.

WookieMan says

richwicks says

It was "conservatives" 20 years ago saying people should be silenced because they were traitors not supporting the Iraq War. They didn't have to play that card, and it may have expired by now, but it wasn't "duh left" that was screaming for censorship first.

Iraq is over. I don't disagree with your stance, but you bring it up all the time in conversation that has nothing to do with it as a point. Just say the IRS is bull shit. You don't trust government. Ukraine and our funding will likely end up exponentially worse for American citizens. Iraq is a joke at this point. It happened. But it's time to move on.

He's an intellectually dishonest individual and should not be taken seriously by anyone.

AmericanKulak says

The Iraq War has nothing on Modern Day Censorship. Even on Fox, there were Iraq War detractors on prime time daily making the case against the War.

No, that didn't happen. I was aghast with Fox News, Faux News, back then. I was so disgusted our "news" system allowed open propaganda.

But I was only 30 then, it's all bullshit. I just didn't realize it then.

There were no detractors for that fucking bullshit war. Phil Donahue was fired because he questioned the nonsense:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Donahue#MSNBC_program

Soon after the show's cancellation, an internal MSNBC memo was leaked to the press stating that Donahue should be fired because he opposed the imminent U.S. invasion of Iraq and that he would be a "difficult public face for NBC in a time of war"

Nothing you see on television, is true. It's been this way for AT LEAST 20 years, maybe my entire life. I'm 51. It is not a war between left and right, it's a war between truth and falsehood, or maybe, good and wrong. Television is garbage. If you regularly watch it, I have a challenge for you, stop watching it for just a month, see if you can do it. It's designed to be addictive.

I just returned from a 2 week vacation in which I had no idea what was going on in the outside world during that time. I can see why people disconnect.

HeadSet says

richwicks says

It was "conservatives" 20 years ago saying people should be silenced because they were traitors not supporting the Iraq War.

I do not remember anyone against the war being silenced.

Look, I can't attest to your memory, but I went through it. I was a traitor, an American hater, a coward, everything you can think of. I hate people's go along to get along mentality.

The Iraq War was unjust, it was wasteful, it did nothing for this country, and George W. Bush and his administration should be prosecuted.

Our media is bullshit too. I know exactly what it was like to be a detractor for that bullshit war, but it was even worse when Obozo started bombing Libya and Syria.

richwicks says

AmericanKulak says

The Iraq War has nothing on Modern Day Censorship. Even on Fox, there were Iraq War detractors on prime time daily making the case against the War.

No, that didn't happen. I was aghast with Fox News, Faux News, back then. I was so disgusted our "news" system allowed open propaganda.

But I was only 30 then, it's all bullshit. I just didn't realize it then.

There were no detractors for that fucking bullshit war. Phil Donahue was fired because he questioned the nonsense:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Donahue#MSNBC_program

Soon after the show's cancellation, an internal MSNBC memo was leaked to the press stating that Donahue should be fired because he opposed the imminent U.S. invasion of Iraq and that he woul...

That's why when they start talking about "amnesty," are they willing to compensate for the decades people like you (and maybe me as well), ostracized and shunned into the wilderness, just because we didn't ply the "narrative," even though we were right and they were wrong?

If not, then fuck them and every one who looks like them, and the horses they rode in on.

richwicks says

No, that didn't happen. I was aghast with Fox News, Faux News, back then. I was so disgusted our "news" system allowed open propaganda.

It did. I remember Meathead, Garofalo, and others during evening Prime Time Fox making the case against the War.

I've never seen Steven Miller or Seb Gorka or Bannon invited on MSNBC, Fox, etc. on Prime Time re: Impeachmints, Russian "Collusion", etc. etc.

https://babylonbee.com/news/irs-agents-slide-down-chimneys-looking-for-gifts-of-600-or-more

That's right - those 87k new agents will be going after waitresses, Uber drivers and other gig workers. Unless, of course, the Republicans are able to stop the IRS from hiring those new collectors.

HeadSet says

That's right - those 87k new agents will be going after waitresses, Uber drivers and other gig workers. Unless, of course, the Republicans are able to stop the IRS from hiring those new collectors.

Eh, as an actual tax payer I say go after them. Earned income is earned income. I get waiters, bartneders and similar don't get paid much hourly, but they literally pay no federal taxes after the standard deduction yet can collect copious amounts of cash tip money they don't report.

My wife waitressed during our college years. I made the money and we put all her hourly into a 401k, now a roll over IRA. Paid zero taxes on cash tips. She was making $30-40k and we paid no taxes. As someone that now pays $40k/yr to the Federal Government, what we did was unfair. I'm actually okay with them trying to collect cash tips from service industry folks. If they don't pay taxes on income, then why should I?

I agree with Patrick's meme, but I don't feel bad at all for those that skirted taxes because it was cash. Douche bag move. That's not even gaming the tax code. It's flat out lying. And yes, I literally admitted my wife and I did it. In hindsight we were jack asses. That was only for 2 years, and still a lot of CC tips that got taxed. Multiply that by 5M people plus and that's a lot of missing tax dollars.

If tipping is going to be a thing, which we're one of the few nations that do it, why not pay them more or like going to a restaurant with a group, the tip is auto added. 15% auto gratuity on all checks. We have the means to do it and track it. It's a job. If you provide shit service I'll talk to the manager or dispute the charge, hence another reason to use CC's. I have 6-10 disputes annually and win them all. That's why I don't use cash or debit.

WookieMan says

Eh, as an actual tax payer I say go after them. Earned income is earned income. I get waiters, bartneders and similar don't get paid much hourly, but they literally pay no federal taxes after the standard deduction yet can collect copious amounts of cash tip money they don't report.

Fuck the government.

All they spend money on is war. Why give this government any taxation, or even obedience, when they'll spend 100 billion dollars on Ukraine, but not a dime on Palestine Ohio?

Only if you're a cocksucking slave. Stop being a cocksucking slave.

richwicks says

Only if you're a cocksucking slave. Stop being a cocksucking slave.

I prefer not to go to jail. I like roads. I like schools. I like airports. I like having the most powerful military. So I pay some of my income towards it. Government isn't all bad. Mismanaged, yes. So are companies. So are individual household budgets. So are gangs or cartels. Everything is mismanaged. I really don't get your point at times. It doesn't make any sense. I'm cool with someone being angry, but not ALL the time. No nuance. Just jump into the Grand Canyon at some point if life is that bad.

Your rebuttals to EVERYTHING of late make it seem like your life is miserable. Maybe other people are succeeding. Ever think of that? Jealousy is a bad trait. You can always fix the government. Bitching here about it AT other people ain't fixing a thing.

WookieMan says

richwicks says

Only if you're a cocksucking slave. Stop being a cocksucking slave.

I prefer not to go to jail. I like roads. I like schools. I like airports. I like having the most powerful military.

What do you think about Palestine Ohio being made uninhabitable by having 100 billion dollars sent to Ukraine to start WWIII?

WookieMan says

Mismanaged, yes. So are companies.

Well, a real company, not a government cocksucker company, that is mismanaged would be replaced by a competitor that is not.

WookieMan says

Your rebuttals to EVERYTHING of late make it seem like your life is miserable. Maybe other people are succeeding. Ever think of that? Jealousy is a bad trait. You can always fix the government. Bitching here about it AT other people ain't fixing a thing.

I'm just kind of disgusted people like you exist. You're so short sighted. Selfish. Immoral.

Part of me thinks you're engaging in an act, and nobody is like this, but then again, I don't know, maybe you're entirely honest about what you claim to be.

I just went through 3 years of people showing me how the Nazi and Communist regimes could form, It has drastically changed my viewpoint.

We also define "success" entirely differently. It's terribly easy to make money, it's just a question of what morals you'll abandon to do it. You show a surprising lack of morality to me. We certainly do not share the same ethics. You "like a strong military". Haha, you said "If you're not the bully someone else will fill that role and fuck you over" - you've got such a perverted mindset. You're a Neocon aren't you? That's just a pretty modern word for a fascist. I'm just repulsed by you.

And then Richwicks appears on a white horse and lectures everyone of their immoral ways.

Bd6r says

And then Richwicks appears on a white horse and lectures everyone of their immoral ways.

No shit. I'm at a loss lately with his comments. I know we're not supposed to talk about other users, but this is getting out of control. A grown man lost his job (Gabbar) and Rich has the audacity to shit on the guy after likely watching his mom die a miserable death. Human decency and compassion is a thing outside of government.

But he's sick of everything, government lies, Iraq, WMD, raaaaaahhhhhhh in every comment. None of it is intelligent. It's gotten worse over the last 2 months.

East Palestine is a bad situation. It happens more frequently than people would think though. We're literally at war with Russia and no Americans are dying, at least not enlisted. The alternative is boots on the ground or cash and weapons. I prefer cash and weapons 10 out of 10 times than my neighbors dying. We just get a rinse and repeat comment about government bad.

Maybe find something positive in life. Maybe make change instead of bitching. Get elected to a position. By not making change rich you make the problem worse. You're dragging the vibe here at Patnet down for a while now. If you have all the answers, go ahead and fix. I think the majority of us here want to stop hearing the keyboard diarrhea.

I'm done responding to his comments at this point. I won't ignore because at some point it's comical outside of the shit comment on Gabbar's thead about his mom and job.

WookieMan says

Bd6r says

And then Richwicks appears on a white horse and lectures everyone of their immoral ways.

No shit. I'm at a loss lately with his comments.

You wrote this:

WookieMan says

cisTits says

The U.S. is $32 trillion in debt and inflation, which is crushing American families, continues to rage.

Who is being crushed? There's inflation for sure. Had our best income year by $50k over the last with all the Covid bull shit. So a loaf of bread is 0.50¢ higher. The horror. Gonna miss my mortgage payment. Lol. The poor will almost always be poor. Make more money.

You're just a pig. You're a pig because you can't recognize what a pig you are. Complete obliviousness. I am entirely serious that I cannot tell if you're putting on an act, or if something as one dimensional as you actually exists and thinks there's nothing wrong with you.

Back to the issues. If someone's ideas are wrong tell them why or ignore them. Name calling is not evidence of superior intellect.

HeadSet says

That's right - those 87k new agents will be going after waitresses, Uber drivers and other gig workers. Unless, of course, the Republicans are able to stop the IRS from hiring those new collectors.

The IRS went after wait staff decades ago. With more people tipping with credit cards now they can't get away with much.

The Repubs canceled the extra agents:
https://nypost.com/2023/01/09/house-passes-bill-nixing-funding-for-87000-new-irs-agents/

rocketjoe79 says

The Repubs canceled the extra agents:
https://nypost.com/2023/01/09/house-passes-bill-nixing-funding-for-87000-new-irs-agents/

Won't pass the Senate.