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They are not going to agree to any of that. They'd loose all sovereignty to the currupt west, they will go down fighting first.
There seems to be a lot of backroom negotiations or dealings. I read the Turkish government worked out a deal with Russia as far as ensuring safety at the Ukrainian nuclear power plant.
Then I read the United Nations Secretary General met with Putin. And then Putin met with the Presidents of China and India. China seemed to be lukewarm to Putin, whereas India criticized Russia's invasion (aka: special military operation).
I hope there is some cease fire at least. Maybe they can bring in 3rd party observers such as from South America to be part of the cease fire.
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They are not going to agree to any of that. They'd loose all sovereignty to the currupt west, they will go down fighting first.
It seems to me that Russia cannot lose this “war” because they are not even really trying to take Ukraine. The question is what do they really want?
I think they want to weaken America/Britain. They want want to weaken the west BEFORE they attack Israel, so that the west is too pitiful to do anything about it.
There seems to be a lot of backroom negotiations or dealings. I read the Turkish government worked out a deal with Russia as far as ensuring safety at the Ukrainian nuclear power plant.
Then I read the United Nations Secretary General met with Putin. And then Putin met with the Presidents of China and India. China seemed to be lukewarm to Putin, whereas India criticized Russia's invasion (aka: special military operation).
I hope there is some cease fire at least. Maybe they can bring in 3rd party observers such as from South America to be part of the cease fire.
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Russia is going to attack Israel now? Hypothesis?
Nothing on the list means lost sovereignty - just giving back the illegal landgrabs and paying for the shit they destroyed.
RWSGFY says
Nothing on the list means lost sovereignty - just giving back the illegal landgrabs and paying for the shit they destroyed.
Ukraine belongs to Russia now, get over it.
In Uzbekistan, I got together with President Putin, and we had very extensive discussions with him. And he is actually showing me that he's willing to end this as soon as possible. That was my impression, because the way things are going right now are quite problematic; 200 hostages will be exchanged upon an agreement between the parties.
I think a significant step will be taken forward.
First of all, what can the Western world do to Russia at this point to make them cry Uncle, and why in the fuck would they even need to lament?
Tenpoundbass says
First of all, what can the Western world do to Russia at this point to make them cry Uncle, and why in the fuck would they even need to lament?
Give more and longer range missiles to the Ukies. Start delivering Western aircraft and MBTs. They are still mostly using old Soviet crap.
RWSGFY says
Tenpoundbass says
First of all, what can the Western world do to Russia at this point to make them cry Uncle, and why in the fuck would they even need to lament?
Give more and longer range missiles to the Ukies. Start delivering Western aircraft and MBTs. They are still mostly using old Soviet crap.
I seems extremely ignorant to think Russia would ever give up it's sovereignty without lobbing nukes. That's what you want?
GNL says
RWSGFY says
Tenpoundbass says
First of all, what can the Western world do to Russia at this point to make them cry Uncle, and why in the fuck would they even need to lament?
Give more and longer range missiles to the Ukies. Start delivering Western aircraft and MBTs. They are still mostly using old Soviet crap.
I seems extremely ignorant to think Russia would ever give up it's sovereignty without lobbing nukes. That's what you want?
Dude, in what world "not allowed to keep illegal land grab" morphs into "loss of sovereignty"? Going home and paying for the shit they destroyed does not violate their sovereignty by the definition of such. Words have meani...
I seems extremely ignorant to think Russia would ever give up it's sovereignty without lobbing nukes. That's what you want?
If NATO were to confront Russia as an aggressor then the real Russia military of shock and awe will be unleashed on them
Is Ukraine fooked?
Dude, in what world "not allowed to keep illegal land grab" morphs into "loss of sovereignty"?
RWSGFY says
Dude, in what world "not allowed to keep illegal land grab" morphs into "loss of sovereignty"?
Iraq
Onvacation says
RWSGFY says
Dude, in what world "not allowed to keep illegal land grab" morphs into "loss of sovereignty"?
Iraq
There’s no such thing as an “illegal land grab” when a force on the scale of Nation does it. Independent countries may do as they wish regardless of laws. They are only held to account with forceful opposition to their actions which is sufficient to cancel or refute those actions. Such as when Iraq invaded Kuwait and the USA curb stomped that country in response. When Iraq was warring with its neighbor Iran in the 1980s, nobody held it to account. Iraq sent a battalion with civilians out in front as cannon fodder and let the Iranians blow up children to save their own troops and let them get in close. Clearly a war crime, but … the international commun...
RWSGFY says
Dude, in what world "not allowed to keep illegal land grab" morphs into "loss of sovereignty"?
Iraq
"This has just leaked on Russian networks. Keep in mind, there’s not a single official source reporting this. But it has been picked up by various high profile figures — get ready for some cocaine delusion, this is a good one:
Ukraine allegedly handed over its "peace plan" agreed with the United States to Russia — through Erdogan.
The conditions of Ukraine are as follows:
1. Withdrawal of Russian troops from all territories occupied by them after 24.02.2022.
2. Legislative transfer of all gold and foreign exchange reserves and seized assets of the Russian Federation and Russians as of 1.09.2022. The law on reparations must be adopted by the State Duma, the Federation Council and signed by the President.
3. Additional payment of reparations of 200 billion euros within 25 years in equal installments.
4. Free supplies of natural gas to Ukraine for five years from 01.01.2023.
5. Holding a referendum on the status of Crimea no later than 011.01.24 under the auspices of the UN and international organizations.
6. Demilitarization of the entire European part of the Russian Federation with the withdrawal of all parts and connections beyond the Urals.
7. Legislative reduction of the Russian army to 600,000 people.
8. Admission of military observers to all military facilities of the Russian Federation, including closed research institutes and design offices.
9. Early elections of the State Duma with the full participation of international observers.
10. Early presidential elections with the full participation of international observers.
Within 12 months, with the full implementation of all items, the international community will begin to partially lift the previously imposed sanctions.
Immediately after the initialing of the agreement, the disconnection of banks from SWIFT, the ban on the sale of Russian coal, oil and LNG will be lifted, flights will be restored and deliveries of vital medicines and aircraft components will be established.
At the insistence of the head of the U.S. State Department Blinken, extreme points on "extradition" of the Russian leadership were removed from the "peace plan".
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