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richwicks says

Russia isn't interested in keeping every inch of territory. The more territory they have, the more they have to defend. They are primarily interested in destroying the Ukrainian military. They may repeatedly take, and give up land in order to do that.

And Ukraine is now one of the heaviest armed, motivated and most experienced militaries in Europe launching near daily drone attacks deep inside Russia including Moscow.

Even Russian propagandists on RT and the Prigozhin admitted that Russia's main goal of demilitarizing the Ukrainian "Nazees" was a total failure to this point.

But keep moving those goal posts!

socal2 says

And Ukraine is now one of the heaviest armed, motivated and most experienced militaries in Europe launching near daily drone attacks deep inside Russia including Moscow.

Oh wow! Drone attacks that do jack shit with regards to the strategic situation.

'Heaviest armed'? Hahaha.

Why Russia Isn't Actually Collapsing


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socal2 says

And Ukraine is now one of the heaviest armed, motivated and most experienced militaries in Europe launching near daily drone attacks deep inside Russia including Moscow.

Their military has been cut in 1/2 if you are to believe the so-called Discord leaks.

They could be the most heavily armed military in the world, but if they don't have any living people to use the weapons, it doesn't matter.

socal2 says

And Ukraine is now one of the heaviest armed, motivated and most experienced militaries in Europe launching near daily drone attacks deep inside Russia including Moscow.

Interesting. That sounds like a description of Germany in 1944, with Germany's V1 and V2 "drone" attacks deep inside Britain including London.

HeadSet says

socal2 says

And Ukraine is now one of the heaviest armed, motivated and most experienced militaries in Europe launching near daily drone attacks deep inside Russia including Moscow.

Interesting. That sounds like a description of Germany in 1944, with Germany's V1 and V2 "drone" attacks deep inside Britain including London.

Germany had to resort to V1/V2's after failing to control the sky with conventional aerial bombing years earlier.

Ukraine never had control of the airspace, or ability to launch drone attacks against Russia.

So these recent attacks inside Russia is a major escalation, and a major nuisance causing Russia to move it's dwindling anti-air defense systems around major cities and commercial airports as opposed to protecting Russian invaders inside of Ukraine.

Russia’s Tiny Drones Are Now Flying Far Enough To Blow Up Ukrainian MiGs At Their Bases

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2023/09/19/russias-tiny-drones-are-now-flying-far-enough-to-blow-up-ukrainian-migs-at-their-bases/

(To the tune of On top of Old Smokey)

Oh on top of Mount Ukey
All covered in propaganda shit
A MiG fighter, took a Russian drone hit.
The Ukey shills on PatNet
will scream, "That is a LIE!"
Oblivious that their sisters,
are taking Russian creampie!

Very redpilled to see what the Ukie women are up to while the men are sent "Back to the Front".

They're ass shakin' for foreign workers in Kiev
https://www.nytimesn7cgmftshazwhfgzm37qxb44r64ytbb2dj3x62d2lljsciiyd.onion/2022/07/26/world/asia/kyiv-ukraine-war-nightlife.html

or doing Onlyfans for cash on top of their Eurorefugee benefits in Helsinki while filing for divorce
https://archive.ph/qp0Nl

or baking fish in their NGO-provided "Fempartment" in Lvov while dying their hair fuscia.
https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2023/1/10/the-feminist-community-emerging-from-the-war-in-ukraine

But don't worry, the Tech people, like the 22-gay guy that draw LGTBQ+ friendly Dinosaurs for PBS kids shows for a subcontractor, is immune from the draft. He's a Fortunate Son. But Roman the truck driver, 38 with 3 kids, got pulled out of his truck and sent.

AmericanKulak says

They're ass shakin' for foreign workers in Kiev
https://www.nytimesn7cgmftshazwhfgzm37qxb44r64ytbb2dj3x62d2lljsciiyd.onion/2022/07/26/world/asia/kyiv-ukraine-war-nightlife.html

Broken link, @AmericanKulak

UkraineIsFucked says

Broken link, AmericanKulak

Shit, I only open the NYT via Brave Tor/Onion. Definitely don't have the link anymore. But we all know that most of the fled Ukie women broke up with their boyfriends/husbands and many are booty shakin' for eurobucks.

UkraineIsFucked says

AmericanKulak says

They're ass shakin' for foreign workers in Kiev
https://www.nytimesn7cgmftshazwhfgzm37qxb44r64ytbb2dj3x62d2lljsciiyd.onion/2022/07/26/world/asia/kyiv-ukraine-war-nightlife.html

Broken link, AmericanKulak

@UkraineIsFucked and @AmericanKulak

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/26/world/asia/kyiv-ukraine-war-nightlife.html

I found it by doing a search on: "world/asia/kyiv-ukraine-war-nightlife.html" in brave:

https://search.brave.com/search?q=world%2Fasia%2Fkyiv-ukraine-war-nightlife.html&source=desktop

When you use a functioning search engine, any 6 words strung together is either unique, or a quote. Google has been breaking this, as has been Yahoo! (before Google certainly) for a long time. It USED to be I could find my own quotes by just typing out what I said.

Brave sucks for now, but it's getting better. Yandex is better than Google now, and I've migrated to it for nearly everything.

UkraineIsTotallyFucked says

Yo Ukie Nazi Fluffers of PatNet!

Why the fuck should we care about Ukraine when Ukrainians themselves won't fight for it?

Here it comes: RUSSIA! RUSSIA! RUSSIA!

But how do you jive this with the bullshit you post that Russia is too incompetent to fight this war?

Ppl don't pay 10k euro bribes to avoid Russians who can't shoot straight, after all.

UkraineIsTotallyFucked says

Yo Ukie Nazi Fluffers of PatNet!

Why the fuck should we care about Ukraine when Ukrainians themselves won't fight for it?

Here it comes: RUSSIA! RUSSIA! RUSSIA!

But how do you jive this with the bullshit you post that Russia is too incompetent to fight this war?

Ppl don't pay 10k euro bribes to avoid Russians who can't shoot straight, after all.

Not sure who you're talking about. Every war has men flee because the women flee. Russia is the aggressor so Russian women are just fine, but a lot of Russians are dying as well. Both sides have lost more than we did in 20 years in 2 wars recently. I'd pay to leave Ukraine. Don't blame them. Some of them do believe the fight is worth it. We have years of this. It has already been a decade before the "special military operations" announcement 2 years ago. Putin wanted Ukraine from the beginning but played the long game.

There will be another major conflict that distracts Russia before November. Rarely if ever has a wartime POTUS lost. This is the 2020 covid with this cycle. They'll cut funding to Ukraine at some point, but fund some other proxy war. Get your popcorn ready. This is a known playbook.

WookieMan says

Some of them do believe the fight is worth it.

The brainwashed that don't realize the fight is hopeless. There is no point in entering a fight when you have no hope of winning.

WookieMan says

Putin wanted Ukraine from the beginning but played the long game.

Russia won't absorb Ukraine. That's just US propaganda. They will probably take over the Donbas or allow them to become "independent" which is what they wanted from the start.

WookieMan says

There will be another major conflict that distracts Russia before November. Rarely if ever has a wartime POTUS lost. This is the 2020 covid with this cycle. They'll cut funding to Ukraine at some point, but fund some other proxy war. Get your popcorn ready. This is a known playbook.

I doubt there will be another major conflict. Kazakhstan fizzled out quick and I don't think any other nation is eager to get destroyed either. I think part of the reason that Ukraine is in a slow grind to the death is Russia is warning other nations not to become US proxies. There isn't enough time to create another major conflict, it took years to get Ukraine going off.

I think the US finally bit off more than it could chew. That might be the reason that Victoria Nuland was FINALLY fired. This is a conflict that the US is going to definitely lose, and it's another nail in the coffin for our propaganda system. They spent years claiming that Ukraine was just on the cusp of winning. They did the same with Afghanistan and Syria, but people weren't convinced to put up flags of those countries in their stupid social media posts.

This the latest narrative about the Moscow terror attack.

"The detained suspect appears to give his name as Redzhep Alizode, and is believed to be from Tajikistan."

https://metro.co.uk/2024/03/23/russian-troops-hack-off-moscow-terror-suspects-ear-feed-20518156/

Recall Putin said that the CIA going back to Clinton was supporting Islamic adversaries to Russia ? I hope they don't try to pin this on the CIA.
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During the recent referendum the population of Kursk People's Republic has shown overwhelming desire to join Ukraine, EU and NATO. Time to update the map! Don't be lazy!!

RWSGFY says

During the recent referendum the population of Kursk People's Republic has shown overwhelming desire to join Ukraine, EU and NATO. Time to update the map! Don't be lazy!!

What referendum?

He’s using satire. As in, the peaceful Ukrainian/NATO mercenaries have Liberated Kursk which has ethnically and politically always been aligned with the People of Western Europe going back to the time of the Vikings, and the time before time.
Again, all sarcasm/satire.

PeopleUnited says

He’s using satire. As in, the peaceful Ukrainian/NATO mercenaries have Liberated Kursk which has ethnically and politically always been aligned with the People of Western Europe going back to the time of the Vikings, and the time before time.
Again, all sarcasm/satire.

Fuck all of them. Why do we even care? We can take the eastern half of Russia in 2 minutes if we wanted and take the resources under the ground.

Until people realize this is to weaken Russia, they won't get it. It's a waste of our time, but strategically it makes sense. It's a long game. In 10-20 years we'll have most of Russia's gas and oil. Ukraine is just a pawn. Weaken and then attack. The Eastern oil/gas fields are not small. Alaska is a jump away, so no Navy needed.

WookieMan says

Until people realize this is to weaken Russia, they won't get it

Like you I’m not taking sides, and don’t think we should be involved in any way other than finding a way to peace. But the hundreds of thousands if not more of people who are dead or suffered other loss is what makes this such a complete waste. The US and NATO leadership have blood on their hands. Russia leadership too obviously. But it is long past time to end this war. Of course heartless globalists would say this war is “worth it” but they are not the ones suffering and dying. This war is not about freedom, democracy or anything else but power, money and greed. Weakening Russia? = power, money and greedy goals of the western oligarchs. Russia is not a serious threat to western freedoms anyway. Kamunist Harris and her oligarch handlers are more of a threat to western freedoms than Pukin.

Oh yes. I remember this Ukey Nazi Fuffer.

He was all over Twitter.

It's US Election Night and the Ukey Nazi Fluffers are starting to figure out what this means.

Top Secret Plan!



Meanwhile, 12 months ago this map shows up on the internet:

It seems somebody comes out with a new partition map on a regular basis. Likely, all of this has already been negotiated but the public baloney machine must roll on until the final curtain, probably on some arcane astrologic date.

DOGEWontAmountToShit says

Top Secret Plan!

So America has 50 puppet states?

Puppet States was a "bad word" phrase coined by America during the cold war, for propaganda purposes.

The closest thing to a puppet state in the world would have been USA under Joe Biden, he was Obama, Soros and Gates Puppet.
An annexed region to Russia would most likely be a full blown Russian state. They will praise dear leader Putin not some ass bag in a ten gallon Commodore hat.

DOGEWontAmountToShit says

Tenpoundbass says

An annexed region to Russia would most likely be a full blown Russian state. They will praise dear leader Putin not some ass bag in a ten gallon Commodore hat.

Donbas seems to be the most stooge for the Kremlin, but that is due to its Stalin-ization at least 70 years ago. That is why they are 100% Russian speaking there and do not speak Ukraine.

I wonder about the other areas and towns like Mariupol and Kherson invaded by Russia, if they have as much loyalty to the Kremlin. I do not think Kharkiv and Poltova do.

I wonder if Putin agrees to pull out Ukraine except for Russia only keeping Donbas (and they already annexed Crimea in 2014).

My guess is 3rd party troops from "neutral countries" like Pakistan and Phillipines get sent as peace keepers and/or observers in eastern Ukraine.

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This is much needed for ppl on PatNet Who continue to call Russia the 'Soviet Union'.

A significant amount of current antipathy towards Russia is a function of the Cold War and the USA’s relationship (and conflicts) with the Soviet Union during that time. I think it is important to note what has changed since the collapse of the Soviet Union, as too many strategists act like the Soviet Union still exists.

(Yes, I know this post will cause me to be inundated with NAFO nitwits accusing me of being a PutinPuppet™, but I encourage those who would do this to first state what parts of what I am about to say below are factually incorrect.)

Here goes:

1. From 1946 to 1991, the Soviet Union was an existential threat to the USA. This was because the Soviet Union was at the forefront of a global movement to make every nation on Planet Earth a Communist satellite. Communism is antithetical to the American concept of liberty. Further, the Soviet Union’s possession of thermonuclear weapons made that “existential” concept a stark reality.

2. Because of point #1, Americans—particularly those who stood on the front lines of the Cold War—rightly feared and loathed the Soviet Union. That sentiment has in many ways carried over to today in the form of fear and loathing of Russia.

3. The modern fear and loathing of Russia in the USA was amplified greatly by the “Trump/Russia Collusion” hoax and the many, many reprises of that hoax by Democrats and the American media.

4. Russia in 2025 is a mere shadow of the former Soviet Union. It has lost most of the former Soviet states, the Warsaw Pact no longer exists, and the military, economic, informational and diplomatic might of Russia is exponentially less than that of the Soviet Union.

5. However, Russia still possesses the world’s largest arsenal of nuclear weapons, which means America should be circumspect about fomenting war with Russia.

6. Russia today is an oligarchy led by an objectively evil man in Vladimir Putin. There is very little about Russia’s government that Americans should accept or admire. However, in 2025 Russia is just one of MANY oligarchies ruled by objectively evil men, and as such its current government is commonplace and not at all unusual.

7. Russia and Ukraine have an exceptionally complex historical relationship of conflict and acquiescence that literally goes back thousands of years.

8. Russia’s historical memory is colored primarily by the specters of Napoleon and Hitler, and it has long believed a buffer zone on its western border is vitally important to its national survival, in much the same way the USA has always viewed the Monroe Doctrine as being essential for its national survival. Thus, the West’s overtures to Ukraine and the suggestion that it could join NATO are enormously threatening to Russia, for meaningful historical reasons I already mentioned.

So, based on the above facts, I offer the following conclusions:

-Russia in 2025 is nowhere near the threat to the West that the Soviet Union was, and it is a mistake to view Russia the same way the USA viewed the Soviet Union.

-The Russian government is indistinguishable from many other nations possessing despotic governments with whom the USA has normalized relations.

-Russia lacks the power to engage in military operations beyond its own borders.

-Russia’s primary goal in Ukraine is to establish a buffer zone on its western border. There is no indication whatsoever that Russia possesses the ability or intent to conquer Europe.

-Despite the above, provoking Russia militarily is unwise given its nuclear arsenal.

This is what I believe to be an objective analysis of the current geopolitical state of play involving Russia, I believe that all decisions and policies regarding Russia must be made in the above context, and I believe that is EXACTLY what the Trump Administration is doing.

Realpolitik, people--not wishes and virtue signaling.

Realpolitik--that's the world in which rational humans live.

https://x.com/CynicalPublius/status/1896022527517847839