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Not knowing Patrick personally, and not trolling, but evidently he has a different view of human nature than I.
I can't discuss things with fools; I have to avoid the subject entirely or leave.
Liberals deep down hate 1. you and me 2. themselves 3. their parents in some cases
I don't let them have the pleasure of my words.
Unlike the fucked up liberals I have known, I have no self hate, no self doubt, no time for those who hate me and I'm sure some people like me just as I am.

..as they say.. You can wake up somebody sleeping not pretending to sleep.
The society needs constant effort to cleanse irrespective of political leanings.

"mensch" needs to shine not "criminals"... Can happen only when influence of money goes down.

You should have just showed him some of the pics of Hunter that was on his laptop. He's very handsome even in the nude. As for the hookers, eh! But the blow looked like good stuff.

Maybe I'll try to get the Democrat that I spoke with the other day. Here's a sampling of my short, little 'debate' with him:

I asked him to name one single thing that is better for him and his family since Biden took office. He stared at the ground for about 30 seconds and finally came up with this gem:

"I'll tell ya what's better ... Trump aint the President." I asked; that's it, you can't think of anything else? To which he responded with dead silence!

Have fun trying to find an intelligent Democrat that can debate on anything of substance.

I have to try though.

The invitation stands.

It was a local Menlo Park paper. Not sure which one.

I posted a request for a Democrat on Craigslist:

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/pol/d/menlo-park-looking-for-sincere-and/7556053426.html

BTW, let me know if you can't see that posting.

Too much testosterone here for a Democratic to last long. They will go crying to their safe space after a short time

Still, I will admire any Democrat who has enough balls to debate anonymously, online, with all personal insults blocked in both directions.

Unfortunately some bad faith actors harassed away the Dem leaning folks that were part of this forum.

EBGuy says

Unfortunately some bad faith actors harassed away the Dem leaning folks that were part of this forum.

That's not accurate. Sure there was "bullying" on both sides, but nobody did that better than some of out forme leftoid forum actors. What is accurate is that conservatives likely always have been in the majority on this forum, hence maybe the impression of "harassment"

If you want to get dems back, you’ve got to make this forum less about politics. Unfortunately, everything is political now.

You’d think the fact that the Covid vax produced by giant corporations is killing people or that the Ukrainian war is stupid is something we could find common ground with the libs on but I guess not.

I used to at least understand where the libs were coming from. They wanted less guns and war, more weed and gay marriage. We could debate on the merits of different policies. Now it’s all “you’re a fascist” and redefined words to win arguments. It’s sad.

You got one on the hook Patrick!

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/pol/7556069619.html

Everyone be nice!

I don't see how to reply to him, but he doesn't seem interested in sincere debate either, because he's demanding a conclusion before we even start.

cisTits says

Patrick says

I just ran into an old guy in a cafe who pointed in the newspaper to the governor results in California, which added up to 110%

Where was that? The newspaper thing.

@cisTits I went out and found that paper. Here's a photo:

pudil says

You’d think the fact that the Covid vax produced by giant corporations is killing people or that the Ukrainian war is stupid is something we could find common ground with the libs on but I guess not.

@pudil Right, it's like the left has entirely given up all their principles. From my link in the header ( https://patrick.net/post/1277846/2015-02-09-an-antidote-to-corporate-media ):

https://tobyrogers.substack.com/p/thinking-points-september-21-2022

It’s like Pharma just backed a truck up to the Progressive Values Factory; stole everything; modified core values in order to maim people, make money, and implement global totalitarianism; and the left is just out there smoking a cigarette on the loading dock saying, “Sounds good to me.” What!? What the heck happened to the left? Is there no one remaining in that tribe who is capable of logic and reason!? Quite literally the worst industry in the world stole the left’s most cherished values and no one on the left is the slightest bit offended by this (even though they are offended by everything else)!? We live in the bizarro upside down world.

cisTits says

They are fucking animals.

Right, he immediately excluded sincere and respectful debate, so... next!

cisTits says

BS. Because I only saw another Dem on my ballot. That says his opponent was another Republican.

I just checked my sample ballot from the mail. Says Brian Dahle is a Republican.

Just a suggestion for a friendly debate with a Democrat ...

Send a formal invitation to the newly elected Senator from the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, the Honorable John Fetterman.

Subject for the debate? Fracking.

I applaud your effort on this. To clarify- do shills and politicians count, or are you looking for actual populace.
Strangely enough I was thinking of posting a pointer to this site for those politically- or free-speech- inclined. And I suggest we page all zogbots as well.

Plenty of shitbags to find on Twatter.
Plenty of shills on Gab and anywhere else with a considerable size.
And that-site-which-shall-not-be-named if you want horde mode.

Why did they use a map of Moscow in 2000 Mules?

Patrick says

cisTits says

BS. Because I only saw another Dem on my ballot. That says his opponent was another Republican.

I just checked my sample ballot from the mail. Says Brian Dahle is a Republican.

That’s correct, he supposedly is. Not sure if RINO or actual conservative though.

EBGuy says

Why did they use a map of Moscow in 2000 Mules?

Please tell us more @EBGuy

Patrick says

I have to try though.

The invitation stands.

I can channel my 35 year old self, but from that vantage point, George W. Bush was still president, and more than 1/2 of the democrats voted against the Iraq war and didn't support it

steverbeaver says

do shills and politicians count, or are you looking for actual populace

Anyone to argue the other side as long as they don't devolve into personal attacks or "You are a (whatever)" attacks.

richwicks says

I can channel my 35 year old self

I try to do the same thing, but it doesn't work because I wasn't really thinking about things then. It was just "self-evident" that all conservatives are "bad".

i can pretend to be a democrat… some gender pronouns, serious mental issues…hate white people… and worship gays and diversity. did i miss anything?

Patrick says

richwicks says

I can channel my 35 year old self

I try to do the same thing, but it doesn't work because I wasn't really thinking about things then. It was just "self-evident" that all conservatives are "bad".

People who supported a war obviously based on lies and defended the bastards that started that war WERE bad.

Obama did the same thing Bush did though and Democrats defended that.

Most people have no principles. That's my conclusion.

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says

i can pretend to be a democrat… some gender pronouns, serious mental issues…hate white people… and worship gays and diversity. did i miss anything?

You missed the vaxx, which prevented Biden, Fauci, Bourla, and Walensky from getting the rona.

Oops, actually it completely failed at that.

But it's perfectly safe, if you don't count the extra few hundred thousand deaths in the US since its introduction...

RayAmerica says

Send a formal invitation to the newly elected Senator from the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, the Honorable John Fetterman.

Hello friend. Senator Fetterman here. Vaccine Covid safe and effective. No heart issues vaccine you give. Me stroke no vaccine. You take vaccine yes and keep job. Now money you give me election win. Thank you. God bless Amtrack.

https://markcrispinmiller.substack.com/p/and-the-beat-goes-wrong/comment/10386669

Patrick says

Please tell us more @EBGuy

https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?query=moscow%2C+russia#map=14/55.7623/37.6214

In fairness to the Mules doc:
Phillips responded via email that “the movie graphics are not literal interpretations of our data.”
Just be aware of that when watching it.
Also, some of the Mules caught on film are actually family members:
At a pivotal moment in the film, state-captured surveillance video shows a man depositing several ballots into a drop box before getting into a white Ford SUV whose license plate is visible, but blurred by the filmmakers.
“What you are seeing is a crime,” D’Souza says in the film as the video plays. “These are fraudulent votes.”
In fact, investigators say it was not a crime. And those were not fraudulent votes.
Rather, an investigator for the Georgia Board of Elections has determined the man was depositing his own ballots, plus the ballots of his wife and adult children, who are also registered voters. That’s all perfectly legal in Georgia.

I want to see the reply of True The Vote to https://www.gpb.org/news/2022/06/14/evidence-gaps-in-2000-mules

Here is video of the Georgia Secretary of State Board Elections 05.17.22 that investigated three of the video claims of supposed mules dropping off ballots.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQzrDJhjBiw&t=4740s

clambo says

I don't let them have the pleasure of my words.

Not a knock, but you're enabling their childish behavior by not addressing them. We all have to stop letting it continue. Otherwise it continues. Rationality in lefties doesn't exist. As hard as it may seem, we have to try. Not trying compounds their stupidity. You can change minds with logical arguments/discussion.

Patrick says

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says

i can pretend to be a democrat… some gender pronouns, serious mental issues…hate white people… and worship gays and diversity. did i miss anything?

You missed the vaxx, which prevented Biden, Fauci, Bourla, and Walensky from getting the rona.

Oops, actually it completely failed at that.

But it's perfectly safe, if you don't count the extra few hundred thousand deaths in the US since its introduction...

thats right you cis privileged white male bigot!!! wheres your mask, stop killing grandma homophobe!!!

Patrick says

I would like to have a very polite debate ... on patrick.net.

good luck with that

Democrats can't defend their positions, they have been brainwashed to shut down any debate. And unfortunately so has many Republicans.

I'm always blown away that every time I try to talk pragmatically, realistically and try to consider what our options might be. How they can never get past the headline and just want to harp on histrionics of what's going on. Rather than how it can be stopped, or what we can do about it. My BIL I'm avoiding talking to him, because if I do. he will want to rant about the constitutional duty of Judges, who are doing nothing, and bitch about why Kattie Hobbs didn't recuse herself, and the braindead Democrats that are winning the elections.
They don't want to talk about how the media is trying to convince everyone that the Republican voters just didn't show up. They wouldn't shut up for one minute during their news rebroadcast after the 2020 election, when I was telling them we all have to get involved more in our local political machine and be apart of the GOP party, and your precinct.

There's only a few pragmatic Republican voters you can talk to, the rest are all worked up over what ever Sean Hannity said on his show last night, and what ever Steve Bannon is ear fucking them with hopium about. Not realizing we're in this predicament because they expect them to fix it for them somehow, so they don't have to get involved.

It all boils down to money; liberals think it's okay to take our money and spend it to "help others".
They believe 1. It's morally good 2. It's going to get results 3. It's legal
1 and 2 are wrong; but 3 is taxes and so far there's no escape.
I say it's morally wrong to take my property to give to others who made bad decisions or are lazy, etc.
If there were only sales taxes, tariffs, fees (bridge tolls, car registration, etc.) there would be nothing to talk about with liberals.
Remember, they don't want to convince you that their ideas are correct; they want you to not be angry that they want to pick your pocket.
Deep down they resent you.

Patrick says

I would like to have a very polite debate with some Democrats on patrick.net.

By polite, I mean refraining from attacking the person in either direction, but sticking to points of argument instead. So no "You are a (whatever)" will not be allowed. The only appropriate use of "you" will be "Here you said..."

I just ran into an old guy in a cafe who pointed in the newspaper to the governor results in California, which added up to 110%. I said, "well, that's California" and so he accused me of being an "election denier". I asked if he'd seen "2000 Mules" and he said he hadn't "because it's been debunked". Uh, it's the same people who committed the election fraud who are claiming that "2000 Mules" was debunked.

Nor had he heard what was on Hunter's laptop, since he watches only corporate news.

I think I might have made a dent in his wall of denial, and I'd like to try with others.

I follow several leftist forums, and no I have not met any leftists that even grasp the concept of debate.