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The BLM protests were set-up by our intelligence agencies. The media, controlled by these agencies, did not want the protests to get out of control so they pushed the "non-violent" narrative. With millions and millions of protestors with legitimate grievances against the police (no I don't mean Floyd), they were largely peaceful.

The Black Perspective:

Pretty much every Black in America knows a closely related person who has been brought up on bogus charges. It happens and it happens frequently.

It happened during the BLM protests too. Here is one incident that happened in my area, Phoenix.

14 Black males decided they were going to get together and protest. The police found out about this.They arrested 15 of the Blacks (an extra just happened to be in the area) for minor offenses like obstructing traffic, etc .Before the arrests, the police along with the FBI came up with the idea to add a "gang affiliation" charge, as well,. This was even though the protestors did not belong to a gang. The gang affiliation charge was a felony and would add about 7 years onto the sentences The police falsified evidence to a grand jury, got a prosecutor to go along with this and was going to railroad these men through the system.

...Well, someone balked and went to the media (they put it on like page 12). All the charges were dropped against the Blacks and the mayor had someone investigate this. The investigator had zero power to arrest the perpetrators. The spineless State AG (who is as establishment GOP as it comes) has done and will do nothing. It is currently being looked at by another police department in Arizona. I am guessing that 20-50 police were involved, several members from the prosecutor's office and at least 1 FBI agent. If you think that this many police are going to be sent to prison, you really don't know what country you are living in. In a ballsy move the mayor did have the investigative report posted online.

https://www.phoenix.gov/citymanagersite/Documents/Gang-Related-Summary-Report-08-12-2021.pdf

Incidents like this happen all the time. In my opinion, the BLM protests were much more peaceful than they could have been. Don't cry over a few hundred whites being imprisoned for Jan 6.

Misc says

legitimate grievances against the police (no I don't mean Floyd),

This is the problem. The supposed spark of the riots in 2020 was the brutal treatment of Floyd during his arrest. But while I do feel the police were unnecessarily brutal that day, there are greater and more important examples of police brutality that never get reported (or are buried and not emphasized by the controlled mainstream media narrators). So Floyd because he was labeled as a martyr/victim of racism he becomes a saint, Chauvin is labeled as a racist and the devil. And ultimately the corrupt powers that be are happy to use Chauvin as a scapegoat because across the country the brutality and miscarriages of justice against presumably innocent individuals continue in spades.

Misc says

Incidents like this happen all the time. In my opinion, the BLM protests were much more peaceful than they could have been. Don't cry over a few hundred whites being imprisoned for Jan 6.

First it's not just whites that were imprisoned for January 6th.

Second, the BLM protests were FAR more violent than that happened on January 6th.

We don't have a government. It's just a criminal syndicate.

Patrick says

I would like to have a very polite debate with some Democrats on patrick.net.

DeficitHawk says

Well, I guess this is the end of the road for our discussion then.

What have we learned from this discussion?

@DeficitHawk is obviously intelligent, educated, and able to express his ideas. Unfortunately he would not consider counter evidence and has now left the conversation.

My conclusions are that DeficitHawk was either a shill that knows full well the lies that the ministry of truth is pushing are simply propaganda, or he, like many "Progressives", has been brainwashed by the media for so long that the cognitive dissonance becomes overwhelming and they run away.

Where's Iwog? Where's Dan? Where's Marcus? Where are all of the progressives we have argued with over the years? Is there no champion of the left that will come and debate us?

Onvacation says

My conclusions are that DeficitHawk was either a shill that knows full well the lies that the ministry of truth is pushing are simply propaganda, or he, like many "Progressives", has been brainwashed by the media for so long that the cognitive dissonance becomes overwhelming and they run away.

Or an actor having fun playing a role. The giveaway was when he/she spoke of the Jan 6 protests as an insurgency masterminded by Trump.

HeadSet says

Onvacation says

My conclusions are that DeficitHawk was either a shill that knows full well the lies that the ministry of truth is pushing are simply propaganda, or he, like many "Progressives", has been brainwashed by the media for so long that the cognitive dissonance becomes overwhelming and they run away.

Or an actor having fun playing a role. The giveaway was when he/she spoke of the Jan 6 protests as an insurgency masterminded by Trump.

He could have also been a psychological researcher or some such, probably funded by NSA or other intelligence agencies to investigate "fringe" forums and websites.

"Payroll Propagandist. Check your conscience at the door, we'll mail you your check."

stereotomy says

HeadSet says

Onvacation says

My conclusions are that DeficitHawk was either a shill that knows full well the lies that the ministry of truth is pushing are simply propaganda, or he, like many "Progressives", has been brainwashed by the media for so long that the cognitive dissonance becomes overwhelming and they run away.

Or an actor having fun playing a role. The giveaway was when he/she spoke of the Jan 6 protests as an insurgency masterminded by Trump.

He could have also been a psychological researcher or some such, probably funded by NSA or other intelligence agencies to investigate "fringe" forums and websites.

Well, whatever it was, it was QUITE pissed off I wouldn't accept a "news" article as evidence in the Derek Chauvin trial when I went through the work to find actual documents submitted from the coroner, and translated the cursive writing into text.

I don't believe it sincerely cared about being correct and may have been testing people's resilience to propaganda narratives.