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Can anyone find some Democrats willing to debate on patrick.net?
2022 Nov 10, 3:00pm 105,861 views 698 comments
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PeopleUnited
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2022 Dec 3, 8:50pm
PeopleUnited
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2022 Dec 3, 8:50pm
Misc says
This is the problem. The supposed spark of the riots in 2020 was the brutal treatment of Floyd during his arrest. But while I do feel the police were unnecessarily brutal that day, there are greater and more important examples of police brutality that never get reported (or are buried and not emphasized by the controlled mainstream media narrators). So Floyd because he was labeled as a martyr/victim of racism he becomes a saint, Chauvin is labeled as a racist and the devil. And ultimately the corrupt powers that be are happy to use Chauvin as a scapegoat because across the country the brutality and miscarriages of justice against presumably innocent individuals continue in spades.
legitimate grievances against the police (no I don't mean Floyd),
This is the problem. The supposed spark of the riots in 2020 was the brutal treatment of Floyd during his arrest. But while I do feel the police were unnecessarily brutal that day, there are greater and more important examples of police brutality that never get reported (or are buried and not emphasized by the controlled mainstream media narrators). So Floyd because he was labeled as a martyr/victim of racism he becomes a saint, Chauvin is labeled as a racist and the devil. And ultimately the corrupt powers that be are happy to use Chauvin as a scapegoat because across the country the brutality and miscarriages of justice against presumably innocent individuals continue in spades.
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richwicks
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2022 Dec 3, 10:20pm
richwicks
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2022 Dec 3, 10:20pm
Misc says
First it's not just whites that were imprisoned for January 6th.
Second, the BLM protests were FAR more violent than that happened on January 6th.
We don't have a government. It's just a criminal syndicate.
Incidents like this happen all the time. In my opinion, the BLM protests were much more peaceful than they could have been. Don't cry over a few hundred whites being imprisoned for Jan 6.
First it's not just whites that were imprisoned for January 6th.
Second, the BLM protests were FAR more violent than that happened on January 6th.
We don't have a government. It's just a criminal syndicate.
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Onvacation
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2022 Dec 10, 9:22am
Onvacation
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2022 Dec 10, 9:22am
Patrick says
DeficitHawk says
What have we learned from this discussion?
@DeficitHawk is obviously intelligent, educated, and able to express his ideas. Unfortunately he would not consider counter evidence and has now left the conversation.
My conclusions are that DeficitHawk was either a shill that knows full well the lies that the ministry of truth is pushing are simply propaganda, or he, like many "Progressives", has been brainwashed by the media for so long that the cognitive dissonance becomes overwhelming and they run away.
Where's Iwog? Where's Dan? Where's Marcus? Where are all of the progressives we have argued with over the years? Is there no champion of the left that will come and debate us?
I would like to have a very polite debate with some Democrats on patrick.net.
DeficitHawk says
Well, I guess this is the end of the road for our discussion then.
What have we learned from this discussion?
@DeficitHawk is obviously intelligent, educated, and able to express his ideas. Unfortunately he would not consider counter evidence and has now left the conversation.
My conclusions are that DeficitHawk was either a shill that knows full well the lies that the ministry of truth is pushing are simply propaganda, or he, like many "Progressives", has been brainwashed by the media for so long that the cognitive dissonance becomes overwhelming and they run away.
Where's Iwog? Where's Dan? Where's Marcus? Where are all of the progressives we have argued with over the years? Is there no champion of the left that will come and debate us?
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HeadSet
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2022 Dec 10, 1:07pm
HeadSet
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2022 Dec 10, 1:07pm
Onvacation says
Or an actor having fun playing a role. The giveaway was when he/she spoke of the Jan 6 protests as an insurgency masterminded by Trump.
My conclusions are that DeficitHawk was either a shill that knows full well the lies that the ministry of truth is pushing are simply propaganda, or he, like many "Progressives", has been brainwashed by the media for so long that the cognitive dissonance becomes overwhelming and they run away.
Or an actor having fun playing a role. The giveaway was when he/she spoke of the Jan 6 protests as an insurgency masterminded by Trump.
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stereotomy
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2022 Dec 10, 1:17pm
stereotomy
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2022 Dec 10, 1:17pm
HeadSet says
He could have also been a psychological researcher or some such, probably funded by NSA or other intelligence agencies to investigate "fringe" forums and websites.
Onvacation says
My conclusions are that DeficitHawk was either a shill that knows full well the lies that the ministry of truth is pushing are simply propaganda, or he, like many "Progressives", has been brainwashed by the media for so long that the cognitive dissonance becomes overwhelming and they run away.
Or an actor having fun playing a role. The giveaway was when he/she spoke of the Jan 6 protests as an insurgency masterminded by Trump.
He could have also been a psychological researcher or some such, probably funded by NSA or other intelligence agencies to investigate "fringe" forums and websites.
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Ceffer
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2022 Dec 10, 1:25pm
Ceffer
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2022 Dec 10, 1:25pm
"Payroll Propagandist. Check your conscience at the door, we'll mail you your check."
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richwicks
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2022 Dec 10, 1:26pm
richwicks
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2022 Dec 10, 1:26pm
stereotomy says
Well, whatever it was, it was QUITE pissed off I wouldn't accept a "news" article as evidence in the Derek Chauvin trial when I went through the work to find actual documents submitted from the coroner, and translated the cursive writing into text.
I don't believe it sincerely cared about being correct and may have been testing people's resilience to propaganda narratives.
HeadSet says
Onvacation says
My conclusions are that DeficitHawk was either a shill that knows full well the lies that the ministry of truth is pushing are simply propaganda, or he, like many "Progressives", has been brainwashed by the media for so long that the cognitive dissonance becomes overwhelming and they run away.
Or an actor having fun playing a role. The giveaway was when he/she spoke of the Jan 6 protests as an insurgency masterminded by Trump.
He could have also been a psychological researcher or some such, probably funded by NSA or other intelligence agencies to investigate "fringe" forums and websites.
Well, whatever it was, it was QUITE pissed off I wouldn't accept a "news" article as evidence in the Derek Chauvin trial when I went through the work to find actual documents submitted from the coroner, and translated the cursive writing into text.
I don't believe it sincerely cared about being correct and may have been testing people's resilience to propaganda narratives.
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By polite, I mean refraining from attacking the person in either direction, but sticking to points of argument instead. So no "You are a (whatever)" will not be allowed. The only appropriate use of "you" will be "Here you said..."
I just ran into an old guy in a cafe who pointed in the newspaper to the governor results in California, which added up to 110%. I said, "well, that's California" and so he accused me of being an "election denier". I asked if he'd seen "2000 Mules" and he said he hadn't "because it's been debunked". Uh, it's the same people who committed the election fraud who are claiming that "2000 Mules" was debunked.
Nor had he heard what was on Hunter's laptop, since he watches only corporate news.
I think I might have made a dent in his wall of denial, and I'd like to try with others.