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but to get certain facts you must go outside the mainstream
Isn’t it obvious you are a racist if you don’t like or question any of those free programs.
seems people will sacrifice everything for their party. Even personal morals.
see the table in comment 378. thats the UK data we were discussing.
These [sic] raw data should not be used to estimate vaccine effectiveness as the data does [sic] not take
into account inherent biases present such as differences in risk, behaviour and testing in the
vaccinated and unvaccinated populations.
According to the latest data from the Australian Bureau of Statistics, excess mortality was over 17 per cent in July. It is similarly elevated in other highly vaccinated populations.
In Germany, excess mortality in people over 60 increased by 174 per cent between 20 September 2021, when 85 per cent of people over 60 were fully vaccinated, and October 2022.
In the UK, there have been more excess deaths in the last three months than at any time during the pandemic or indeed since 2010. In the most recent week, excess mortality in England was 16 per cent.
In the US, excess mortality in people aged 25 to 44, and in those aged 75 to 84, is 18 per cent, and it is 15 per cent in those aged 65 to 74.
The situation is all the more alarming because there should be fewer deaths now, since so many people died earlier in the pandemic. There has also been a dramatic rise in people with disabilities.
As for Covid, in Australia, vaccine efficacy appears to be negative, judging by the statistics in NSW which are far from perfect but the best in Australia.
When there is a threat, I guess I do think peace through strength is the path.
Yup, I support helping Ukraine push Russia back to the border.
The hippies are dead, conquered by the very war hawks they once protested.
Maybe some places it was 'take the jab or you cant work here'.
Even if we dont agree, wanna jump in here and stir the pot with me?
DeficitHawk says
Maybe some places it was 'take the jab or you cant work here'.
One of the poster here was fired for refusing to tell his employer his private medical information.
Thankfully there were not storm troopers forcably jabbing most people, but there were reports of people in nursing homes and other care facilities as well as patients under anesthesia for surgery who were given injections of Pfizer or Moderna against their will/without consent. In places around the world it became common place to ask for your jab papers and people who falsified jabs to work or shop were severely punished. The point is that it is a slippery slope once you begin to mandate. We were only about one step away from either stormtroopers, prison camps or denial of care for those who refuse the jabs. It is reason for concern. Which is why so many oppose the mandate and draw the line at...
Things that dems believe:
Elections are safe and fair (when they win).
Trump is a racist that colluded with Putin.
Global warming is an existential threat.
The vax is safe and effective.
Whites have privilege just because of their skin color.
America is a democracy.
PeopleUnited says
but to get certain facts you must go outside the mainstream
Why do you think I come here? Hint: Its not for the friendly encouragement from richwicks.
Even if we dont agree, wanna jump in here and stir the pot with me?
NuttBoxer doesn't deny the truth of election fraud, vaccine safety and efficacy, and the facts behind the Ukrainian war.
It's also estimated that there is 2-4 million people out of the labor market because of "Long Covid".
Things that dems believe:
Elections are safe and fair (when they win).
Trump is a racist that colluded with Putin.
Global warming is an existential threat.
The vax is safe and effective.
Whites have privilege just because of their skin color.
America is a democracy.
I don't think you're authentic because you haven't discussed policy in anything you've written that I've seen,
But good news. God created a beautiful world, and He loves all of you. And as being's made in His image, we have the power to change all of this for the better. Love your neighbors, pray for your enemies. Stand up for what is right, protect those who can't protect themselves. Not through voting or going online, but in real life. Live for the world you want to see, and together, with God's help, we will make it a reality.
Things that dems believe:
Elections are safe and fair (when they win). -- Yup, and also when the other guys win.
The vax is safe and effective. -- Yup, per the double blind studies, though I acknowledge the tracking doesnt go out too many years so long term side effects havent been proven except by projection.
I morally dont like that we allow a large population of '2nd class' people who we let stay but dont allow to be citizens. I think its economic exploitation and both parties allow it to go on for their own reasons.
DeficitHawk says
I morally dont like that we allow a large population of '2nd class' people who we let stay but dont allow to be citizens. I think its economic exploitation and both parties allow it to go on for their own reasons.
Boom! That is the crux of the matter. Big business loves having an underclass that always lives under the threat of deportation. Dems and Republicans coordinate here, playing good cop/bad cop.
Not at all when Trump won. The election denial from Democrats was very loud and persistent.
Either change the law or enforce the law.
Patrick says
Not at all when Trump won. The election denial from Democrats was very loud and persistent.
Oh right, that one... well we may have to agree to disagree on that one.
Wait DeficitHawk are saying that Democrats did not deny the 2016 election, loudly and persistently?
Would you like a ton of evidence that they did?
The vax is safe and effective. -- Yup, per the double blind studies
What does it take to really stop the shots and prosecute those responsible? I think we have to go back to the trial data. If the rate of serious adverse events was 1 in 800 in the Pfizer trial, then they would know that their product would cause material harm to millions of people once it was rolled out to so much of the world’s population. Pfizer almost certainly intentionally kept sample sizes very low, threw people out of the analysis, and of course unblinded the study two years before it was over, eliminating the placebo group.
A single death or serious adverse reaction in a clinical trial would need to be reported and extrapolated out to the entire target population this intervention is meant for. That is done to look for rare signals, but the damages can be calculated out. In the Pfizer children’s arm, for example, one 12 year old girl, Maddie de Garay, suffered disability and became wheelchair bound. Pfizer classified her injury as abdominal pain, because otherwise the rate of the jab causing permanent disability would have to be set to 1 in 1200 (the size of the study arm), which is insane for an illness posing statistically no risk to the age group. Pfizer would do anything to hide the bodies of those who might have died or been severely long term injured from the jabs. I speculated on that myself regarding a missing VAERS report many months ago...
The vax is safe and effective.
New World Odor™
@hugh_mankind
Nov 10
BMJ's editor Dr. Peter Doshi raises alarming questions About Safety Concerns
“Pfizer and Moderna trial data are both showing a clear signal of increased risk of serious adverse events among the vaccinated”
Do you really think Trump tried to use "force" on 9/11?
I DO honestly think that for some time that day, he waited to see what would happen in hopes that he could be made Emperor. I believe that was what was going on in his mind as he watched the riot go on and ignored please to intervene and stop the violence. I truly and honestly believe this.
I want avenues so that family wealth is not the determining factor for your income potential... But policies have gone way too far.. trying to push EVERYONE to go. And trying to say no one should have to pay for it, even not have to pay back their loans. It goes hand in hand with not respecting people who do useful trades that didnt go to college, a sort of elitism in the guise of promoting social mobility, trying to build a purely white collar economy.
2)The efficacy of the vaccine. It think it helps reduce death rate by a lot and infection rate by a little per double blind studies done, but its efficacy is lower on mutation variants and the mutation rate is fairly high, so the efficacy will go down with time or need constant updates like flu shots. Other people think the vaccine has virtually no benefit at all.
DeficitHawk says
I DO honestly think that for some time that day, he waited to see what would happen in hopes that he could be made Emperor. I believe that was what was going on in his mind as he watched the riot go on and ignored please to intervene and stop the violence. I truly and honestly believe this.
Either change the law or enforce the law.
Question for you: Why is it, that after almost 40 years of HIV/AIDS, and after Big Pharma and the U. S. Government has spent $HUNDREDS of BILLIONS in research and development, they have yet to come up with a safe and effective vaccine?
Please talk to a recent high school graduate, or dropout, that wasn't able to go to college, and who has to actually compete against illegal immigrants for the same job.
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By polite, I mean refraining from attacking the person in either direction, but sticking to points of argument instead. So no "You are a (whatever)" will not be allowed. The only appropriate use of "you" will be "Here you said..."
I just ran into an old guy in a cafe who pointed in the newspaper to the governor results in California, which added up to 110%. I said, "well, that's California" and so he accused me of being an "election denier". I asked if he'd seen "2000 Mules" and he said he hadn't "because it's been debunked". Uh, it's the same people who committed the election fraud who are claiming that "2000 Mules" was debunked.
Nor had he heard what was on Hunter's laptop, since he watches only corporate news.
I think I might have made a dent in his wall of denial, and I'd like to try with others.