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I voted for DeSantis. He's great.
He is probably not interested in running for president.
He's got a good setup in Florida, and voter fraud there is difficult to do.
He's got young children and probably doesn't want to raise them in shitty Washington DC.
There will be massive voter fraud in many states and he's aware of it.
You couldn't pay me to move from Florida to a northeastern hellhole city, it's not worth it.
I bet DeSantis feels the same way.

The difference between Trump's speech last night and what he was saying running up to 2016 is that now he 'has the receipts', with the outlandish and obviously corrupt foreign occupied foreign city state of Washington DC actively destroying the country and attempting to start WWIII. Obviously, nobody would have believed it if they didn't see it.

clambo says

You couldn't pay me to move from Florida to a northeastern hellhole city, it's not worth it.

Would you consider a hellhole city somewhere else if the price was right ?

I wonder; maybe I could go to a third world city for a ton of money.
In the third world you actually can have a great time with your money.
Vietnam, Thailand, Peru, Ecuador, Philippines etc come to mind

DD214 says

Would you consider a hellhole city somewhere else if the price was right ?

There is something to be said for being 'king of the hellhole', with hot and cold running hookers and servants operating day and night to attend to your Mandarin excesses. However, the dangers of kidnap and hostage ransom might put a little edge on the situation.

The elites hate Trump and the MAGA movement because populism gives the everyday person a say in how America runs. ...

They are utterly repulsed by the people Trump represents, and they are nothing short of disdainful of the American people who told them to shove it.

Sounds right to me.

Ceffer says

DD214 says

Would you consider a hellhole city somewhere else if the price was right ?

There is something to be said for being 'king of the hellhole', with hot and cold running hookers and servants operating day and night to attend to your Mandarin excesses. However, the dangers of kidnap and hostage ransom might put a little edge on the situation.

For example, Denise Richards (a committed leftist actress) just had her truck shot by a rando road rager on her way to the studio.
Sometimes you have to leave your walled compound, and then you’re subject to the denizens of the Hell your policies have created.

What happens when CNN and all of the other news channels don't cover Trump and his rallies 24/7 like they did in 2016?

How will Trump stay relevant and win over the huge chunk of the voters he needs to win if the Media basically ignores him over the next 2 years?

Already, it seems like Trump's announcement speech was months ago and he is being eclipsed by other events.

socal2 says

How will Trump stay relevant and win over the huge chunk of the voters he needs to win

Who are you voting against?

Trump already won twice, of course he's still popular.

Trump won't win.

clambo says

Trump already won twice, of course he's still popular.

this go theyll try to lick him out via media blackout. they control a lot.

gabbar says

Trump won't win.

That is what they said the last two times he ran.

So let’s elaborate more on that. With Trump he is up against big media, big medicine, big Pharma, a weaponized DOJ and FBI. And despite all that roughly half of all living voters gave him the thumbs up in 2016 and again in 2020.
Let’s face it, the establishment elitists never thought that Hilary was going to lose. Either that or the past 6 years of 24/7 endless rheeeeee and synchronized Trump bashing by mainstream media and RINOs is just a smokescreen to divide and distract us.

Either Trump is what we think he is, the populist, or he is a wolf in sheep’s clothing playing the role of hero to the common man all the while leading them to slaughter.

If Trump wins, I will tend to believe he is the wolf. Because, I don’t believe the establishment will let him win if he is for real. That being said, how utterly ridiculous is it that now we have another special counsel investigation into Trump? Is it just theatre and he is in on it or is America now descended into a banana republic?

keeprubbersidedown says

I’m seriously torn. Desantis is the golden boy but so much really stinks there too. Trump disappointed me. Covid and failure to take on deep state was nuts.

Desaintis really hasn't been under the national media spotlight outside of covid handling and governors race (to an extent). Real money hasn't been spent on opposition research by the DNC and PACs nationally. Everyone has a skeleton in the closet. That includes wife, relatives, any business dealings all sorts of things that a state governorship race really doesn't have the time or money, or that the DNC even cared about. They had the polling numbers and he was an incumbent in that race.

Trump is known commodity as a former POTUS with a good record economically until covid. Biden doubled down on Covid masking, stay at home and vaccines. He was the most accused candidate of absolute lies and won. Biden will be a cake walk in the debates, if he even runs. DeSantis would win too, but as I mention above the X factor is he'll be thoroughly vetted in a national election. He could have been an angel his whole life, but highly unlikely.

I don't think either will win against the deep state though, or at least eliminate it in any fashion. He needs the House and Senate by a amount of seats. Guys like Romney are still around that will vote out of spite because of the 2015-16 primaries. He's a sore loser. VP gets the tie breaker so that would help with guys like Romney. If they can get to 53-54 Senate seats that would be nice.

Other X factor is if the DNC will even let Biden run. They may put someone forward to primary him or just ask him to retire to his coffin. At the DNC convention they could surprise everyone and put in another that the opposition/Trump will have much to time research. '23-'24 are going to be interesting. I'd like Desantis, but his time will come. We do need a younger POTUS like him or someone else in 2028.

WookieMan says

keeprubbersidedown says

I’m seriously torn. Desantis is the golden boy but so much really stinks there too. Trump disappointed me. Covid and failure to take on deep state was nuts.

Desaintis really hasn't been under the national media spotlight outside of covid handling and governors race (to an extent). Real money hasn't been spent on opposition research by the DNC and PACs nationally. Everyone has a skeleton in the closet. That includes wife, relatives, any business dealings all sorts of things that a state governorship race really doesn't have the time or money, or that the DNC even cared about. They had the polling numbers and he was an incumbent in that race.

Trump is known commodity as a former POTUS with a good record economically until covid. Biden doubled down on Covid masking, stay at home and vaccines. He was the most accused candidate of absolute lies and won...

No doubt. As crazy as it is Gavin is the future for dems I believe. I find the whole Florida election very interesting. Is Florida the only state that is conservative or was this election “rigged” to get the guy they want? Something stinks I believe. It’s a shame we are in this position that after Trump we don’t trust elections anymore…..

keeprubbersidedown says

It’s a shame we are in this position that after Trump we don’t trust elections anymore…..

No it isn't.

You shouldn't have been trusting the elections for over a decade.

I can say this, but people wouldn't believe me in 2010. They'd just write me off as a nut.

The biggest problem that we face in fixing anything in this nation, is acknowledging the problems we have. The reason we don't have verifiable elections, is we don't have elections. It's HONESTLY quite trivial to have a verifiable election system. It's easy. Cameras are cheap, internet bandwidth is cheap. It's easy enough to collect all the ballots, have a count of the ballots FIRST, then the next day, actually sort them. Each ballot can have a matching serial number, that's easy to do. Just print out all the serial numbers and the recorded vote on each - place it on the net.

This was simple to do 30 years ago, cameras maybe not so much, but certainly by 2010. People just don't believe our elections are bullshit, YET it's super easy to validate them but they aren't, and the only explanation for that is they don't want a verifiable election system and the public is unaware of just how trivial this is to do.

Trump still hasn’t posted anything to Twitter since his reinstatement there. I think he made an agreement that he would be a Truth Social exclusive. But his final tweets of Jan 6 telling everyone to be peaceful and respectful, and of January 8, condemning in video anyone who broke the law at that time, and committing to an orderly transition, are all anyone really needs to see for the moment. Just having those available is quite a thing.

Did Trump actually win in the midterms ? I’m not so sure ? Election deniers lost big as did American First endorsed candidates . Assuming Fla is no longer a swing state ,key elections in other swing states were lost in what should have been a red wave turned into more of a mild wake .Especially when we consider the policies of Brandon that have brought to working Americans empty pockets . Trump’s legal problems still exist ,there’s division within the party and will Trump even when the parties nomination ? How would that senerio play out ? Since it’s a given he doesn’t like to lose will he bow out or run as an independent splitting the party into factions fighting one another . It’s certainly conceivable .I hate to envision a Gavin the first walking in on a blue wave . https://chroniclesmagazine.org/web/kevin-mccarthys-war-against-maga/

https://spectatorworld.com/topic/the-medias-latest-get-trump-quick-scheme/

The media’s latest ‘get Trump quick’ scheme
Their obsession with the Kanye West dinner will only garner him more publicity

December 1, 2022

Lol, the media hate is still a free publicity machine for Trump.

All of the media losers who hate Trump fell like bowling pins.

Some remain, but their time will come,