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ElYorsh
2022 Nov 30, 3:36pm
New Age Spiritualists got old and turned Hipsters into Wokesters. They were a rebellion against Christianity.
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DD214
2022 Dec 2, 8:17am
As a researcher, Bullivant wanted to know why Americans, once considered the exception to the secularization that has happened in Europe and elsewhere, are suddenly losing their religion.
And it is sudden, he notes. “This kind of religious change in a society doesn’t normally happen in the space of 20 or 30 years,” he told Religion News Service in a Zoom interview. “It’s been within the space of one or perhaps two generations that we’ve seen a sudden surge.”
In the 1990s, nonreligion began climbing from its baseline of around 7% of the population to what is between three and five times that figure now, depending on the survey. (All national surveys show the same rising trendline, but they differ as to the degree.)
https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/mind-and-soul/why-americans-are-leaving-their-churches/ar-AA14NvYR?ocid=BingHp01&cvid=a9d069cb00fb451386e4e9f2f16a8fa2
And it is sudden, he notes. “This kind of religious change in a society doesn’t normally happen in the space of 20 or 30 years,” he told Religion News Service in a Zoom interview. “It’s been within the space of one or perhaps two generations that we’ve seen a sudden surge.”
In the 1990s, nonreligion began climbing from its baseline of around 7% of the population to what is between three and five times that figure now, depending on the survey. (All national surveys show the same rising trendline, but they differ as to the degree.)
https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/mind-and-soul/why-americans-are-leaving-their-churches/ar-AA14NvYR?ocid=BingHp01&cvid=a9d069cb00fb451386e4e9f2f16a8fa2
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DhammaStep
2022 Dec 2, 8:25am
Patrick says
Indeed, religions fail for precisely the reasons you demonstrate. There's a variable that's little different with Wokism that may illustrate the need for a different approach. That variable is all of the Woke materials they'll leave behind. They've injected themselves into all forms of media which brings up a conflict. Do we censor media from this era of Woke ideology, or do we educate on why it failed so miserably? One is easier than the other.
I have always been against censorship therefore the only viable option in my opinion is good parenting.
Edit:spelling error
Hopefully the Wokies will die out before they can cause much more damage.
Indeed, religions fail for precisely the reasons you demonstrate. There's a variable that's little different with Wokism that may illustrate the need for a different approach. That variable is all of the Woke materials they'll leave behind. They've injected themselves into all forms of media which brings up a conflict. Do we censor media from this era of Woke ideology, or do we educate on why it failed so miserably? One is easier than the other.
I have always been against censorship therefore the only viable option in my opinion is good parenting.
Edit:spelling error
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DD214
2022 Dec 2, 8:28am
We’re All In Trouble If Politics Becomes Our New Religion
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/politicsblue/2016/06/were-all-in-trouble-if-politics-becomes-our-new-religion/
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/politicsblue/2016/06/were-all-in-trouble-if-politics-becomes-our-new-religion/
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DD214
2022 Dec 2, 8:37am
Patrick says
The only time I have ever heard that term was when someone dragged me to an AA meeting 20 some years ago so they could show me how they found redemption. Not sure if they stayed on the straight and narrow or not since we lost touch.
To date I have never heard someone with cancer, a heart condition or any other serious illness refer to others as "normies" but then again I do not belive addiction is a disease.
Mental problem, yes. Disease, no.
normies
The only time I have ever heard that term was when someone dragged me to an AA meeting 20 some years ago so they could show me how they found redemption. Not sure if they stayed on the straight and narrow or not since we lost touch.
To date I have never heard someone with cancer, a heart condition or any other serious illness refer to others as "normies" but then again I do not belive addiction is a disease.
Mental problem, yes. Disease, no.
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Hircus
2022 Dec 2, 11:49am
Hircus
2022 Dec 2, 11:49am
NDrLoR says
Symbols which give legitimacy to their lifestyle and nature.
EBGuy says
In cases like this, the children are only props to enhance their images.
Symbols which give legitimacy to their lifestyle and nature.
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DD214
2022 Dec 15, 5:33am
Reiss’s theory of what attracts people to religion is based on his research in the 1990s on motivation. He and his colleagues surveyed thousands of people and asked them to rate the degree to which they embraced hundreds of different possible goals.
In the end, the researchers identified 16 basic desires that we all share:
acceptance, curiosity, eating, family, honor, idealism, independence, order, physical activity, power, romance, saving, social contact, status, tranquility and vengeance.
https://news.osu.edu/the-psychology-behind-religious-belief/
In the end, the researchers identified 16 basic desires that we all share:
acceptance, curiosity, eating, family, honor, idealism, independence, order, physical activity, power, romance, saving, social contact, status, tranquility and vengeance.
https://news.osu.edu/the-psychology-behind-religious-belief/
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2022 Dec 15, 9:47am
fdhfoiehfeoi
2022 Dec 15, 9:47am
Patrick says
Sounds like a form of Gnosticism, which views the physical body as evil.
Patrick says
Be careful about labeling cults as religions.
There was an early form of Christianity in the Roman Empire in which Christians would accost strangers on the roads and demand to be beaten to death, threatening to beat the stranger to death himself if he did not comply. The idea was that people who are murdered go to heaven. That form of Christianity died out pretty quickly.
Sounds like a form of Gnosticism, which views the physical body as evil.
Patrick says
The new Woke Religion is doomed to self-extermination, because it aggressively promotes lifestyles which prevent reproduction, like gayness and feminism. It also promotes suicide lately.
Be careful about labeling cults as religions.
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EBGuy
2022 Dec 15, 3:48pm
While this is the headline:
England and Wales no longer majority Christian nations, census reveals
It should be noted that in the ten census year span the following religions are up (both relative to total population and in absolute terms).
Increase from 2011 (population):
Hindu +25%
Muslim +42%
Sikh +24%
Buddhist +10%
Jewish +2%
Christian -17%
No religion +57%
England and Wales no longer majority Christian nations, census reveals
It should be noted that in the ten census year span the following religions are up (both relative to total population and in absolute terms).
Increase from 2011 (population):
Hindu +25%
Muslim +42%
Sikh +24%
Buddhist +10%
Jewish +2%
Christian -17%
No religion +57%
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KgK one
2025 Jan 10, 12:30pm
Failed religion
Zoranstrian/ parsi when islam took over they were persecuted. Many moved to india. Still 70,000 in india.
Buddhism: world isn't ready for non violence. Buddism spread beyond afganistan, india, china, Japan, Indonesia, pakistan. Most of them are now muslim countries.
Judaism seems to survive. Small number of jews run world. I wonder if they keep making Islam n Christianity fight n make money off it. Also Israel is between 6+ muslim countries. But managed to survive.
Hinduism once largest religion is dwindling but has survived 500 years under Islam n 200 years under Christianity. Islam made large killing n forced conversions. Christianity starved millions n sent tons of prists with food to convert. In goa catholics chopped off arms to convert people. Somehow it has survived both. Rare to survive this brutality.
Islam took over 43 countries , so all those religion n culture died.
Christians took over north n south america, Africa , parts of Asia , n australia, so their culture n religion died.
Zoranstrian/ parsi when islam took over they were persecuted. Many moved to india. Still 70,000 in india.
Buddhism: world isn't ready for non violence. Buddism spread beyond afganistan, india, china, Japan, Indonesia, pakistan. Most of them are now muslim countries.
Judaism seems to survive. Small number of jews run world. I wonder if they keep making Islam n Christianity fight n make money off it. Also Israel is between 6+ muslim countries. But managed to survive.
Hinduism once largest religion is dwindling but has survived 500 years under Islam n 200 years under Christianity. Islam made large killing n forced conversions. Christianity starved millions n sent tons of prists with food to convert. In goa catholics chopped off arms to convert people. Somehow it has survived both. Rare to survive this brutality.
Islam took over 43 countries , so all those religion n culture died.
Christians took over north n south america, Africa , parts of Asia , n australia, so their culture n religion died.
There was an early form of Christianity in the Roman Empire in which Christians would accost strangers on the roads and demand to be beaten to death, threatening to beat the stranger to death himself if he did not comply. The idea was that people who are murdered go to heaven. That form of Christianity died out pretty quickly.
More recently, there was Shakerism, which prohibited all sex. They had no children and also died out.
Suicide bombings in Islam continue because it is a weapon of war, not an obligation to blow oneself up applying all Muslims.
The new Woke Religion is doomed to self-extermination, because it aggressively promotes lifestyles which prevent reproduction, like gayness and feminism. It also promotes suicide lately. See https://patrick.net/post/1320662/2018-12-04-you-all-want-some-of-that-commie
The Woke Religion also promotes cultural suicide, killing off everything that is good about Western civilization, and tearing down the statues of quite honorable men, like Jefferson and Lincoln.
But in the meantime, the Wokies are also trying to kill off as many normies as they can. Hopefully the Wokies will die out before they can cause much more damage.