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Which oils to avoid?


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2023 Jan 21, 7:13pm   35,980 views  313 comments

by Patrick   ➕follow (60)   ignore (3)  

I'm increasingly frustrated at the rapeseed oil (euphemistically called "Canola" oil by Canadian producers) and palm kernel oil that seems to be in almost all food. Pretty much everything at Trader Joe's seems to have one or the other. I was even at a Russian shop in Palo Alto today (Samovar, fun place) and found the poppyseed cake my grandmother used to make - except it was with margarine instead of butter, ugh.

Which of them are worth avoiding entirely?

Here are the fats and oils I think are bad:

- margarine (which is just canola and other crap oils hardened to make them stick in your arteries better)
- canola oil
- cottonseed oil (especially bad)
- palm kernel oil

I'm undecided about these:

- soybean oil
- sunflower seed oil
- avocado oil
- coconut oil
- peanut oil

I'm sure these are pretty good for you:

- olive oil
- butter
- lard (yes, I think lard is OK to eat)


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305   mell   2025 Apr 4, 6:42pm  



309   HeadSet   2025 May 6, 1:39pm  

Patrick says





You may want to check that. Soybean plants do not have ovaries and cannot make animal estrogen. Plants can produce phytostrogen that can make the body think it has too much estrogen and thus have the opposite effect of estrogen from a BC pill. Even that effect is minor, though.
310   Patrick   2025 May 6, 1:45pm  

https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20210526/p2a/00m/0sc/014000c


A team of researchers in Japan has succeeded in making catfish all female with a compound found in soybeans -- a development that promises to increase the production efficiency of this and other species whose females are more valuable than males in the food market.

The team, from Kindai University's Aquaculture Research Institute and based at the institute's Shingu Station in Shingu, Wakayama Prefecture, used isoflavone -- a compound found in soybeans similar in effect to female hormones -- to create the all-female groups of catfish. The feat is a Japan first, according to the university.

As female catfish grow faster than males, "by making them all female, production efficiency will rise," commented team leader and aquaculture science associate professor Toshinao Ineno. "This can be applied to other farm-raised fish whose females are more valuable." ...

While 68% of catfish in the ordinary water tank were female, 96% of the catfish kept in the water with genistein at a concentration of 100 micrograms per liter were female. A concentration of 400 micrograms per liter yielded a 100% female group, the same as in the female hormone-treated water group.


OK, so not exactly estrogen, but hat estrogen-like effects.
311   HeadSet   2025 May 6, 2:52pm  

Patrick says

A team of researchers in Japan has succeeded in making catfish all female

That happens naturally with ocean fish around here. Part of nature that fish turn from male to female as they age.
313   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2025 May 18, 10:49am  

HeadSet says


That happens naturally with ocean fish around here. Part of nature that fish turn from male to female as they age.


Happens in my reef tank. You can buy a pair of decent clownfish 'mated' for ~$150. Or you can take the risk and buy two unknowns for around $50 each and wind up with two females that fight each other. Usually the larger fish becomes female if you start out with two males. Mine are black and white (I risked it) and the female has a trace of orange like Nemo on it's lips. Like lipstick haha..

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