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It will survive and exist, but it will exist differently than today and the past. I think a lot will entail becoming more 3rd world.

Quality of life will be degraded but our way of life won't drastically change.

The USA will be more like Mexico or Central America but not exactly like them.

There will be many similarities as far as the effectiveness of major institutions from hospitals to public schools.

And there will be even more a two class system in the USA just like in Mexico and Central America.

I see though our military not declining as much, as we'll still have the strategic forces and technology such as nuclear submarines, aircraft carriers, drones and unmanned systems, stealth fighters and bombers, satellites, 400 Minuteman missiles, etc.

I just think we won't have as much of a fighting or infantry force like we did in the second Gulf War.

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I think a lot will entail becoming more 3rd world.

3rd World with Special Features.
Like an enormous domestic military presence and the largest, most convoluted, least integrated, intelligence apparatuses in history, all competing to crawl up our rectums and guide our 'thinking'.
It is likely that Covid was a project of DARPA et al, and Big Pharma was just the public face and possible fall guys for the op.
Pharma=Oswald.
The FBI, as a reward for entrapping a couple dozen semi-retarded 'domestic terrorists', fomenting years of the Grand Russian Hoax, actively suppressing the 1st Amendment on the internet, is shopping for a spot to build a brand new headquarters that is TWICE THE SIZE OF THE PENTAGON.

Does America deserve to survive?
My answer is “not in this form.”
If we don’t have change on two fronts (citizen decency and voting integrity) then America surviving as a fascist totalitarian empire is bad for the world, and shouldn’t be encouraged.

It's a depressing topic; dumbing down the USA by calling standards and achievement "racist", importing ignorant people from the third world to drive down wages and crowd hospitals and drive up rents, raising taxes on our savings and investments to pay for them, cheating and defrauding elections, pushing people around forcing vaccines on them, etc. are frightening.

What gives me some hope was the voter "revolution" or revolt in 2016 which elected Trump; he really was a complete outsider whose ideas were popular still.

I absolutely give no quarter to a foreigner who wants to talk USA politics with me; foreigners don't understand the USA and free speech, nor our Constitution.

What is interesting is that although the fucked up media, politicians, gay Disney assholes and whatnot seem to dislike white males, my experience is the complete opposite.
Even certified hood rat chicks from Riviera Beach Florida like me, as do Jamacian, Haitian, Japanese, Chinese, Vietnamese, Mexican, Colombian chicks I have met over the years.
They don't call me "racist" or anything, and they don't mind my taking them places where other "white devils" hang out.

richwicks says

this is the main source of society's mental illness:

I'm sure that contributes, but that's a beautiful TV set! So much nicer than the black plastic box school of design or I guess more recently the flat screen which has about as much personality as gravel. I still use my Panasonic with CD/VHS from 1999.

Another question to ponder; can America survive as a Constitutional Representative Republic (what's left of it) without free and honest elections?

Dholliday126 says

What is "income security"? It's not social security, which is a different output.

This is from SWIFT transaction data (almost ten years old):
The US dollar prevails as the dominant international trade currency, with a 51.9% share of the value of international currency usage in 2014. The euro is second, with a 30.5% share of the total value. The British pound is third, with a 5.4% share of the total value, followed by Asian currencies such as the Japanese yen and the Chinese yuan.
I would imagine the US is now below the 50% threshold. The report also notes: The Chinese yuan’s usage continues to grow significantly, particularly in flows between Europe and Asia-Pacific, which have increased considerably over the last two years, and where the currency is now ranked fifth. The People’s Bank of China (PBOC) demonstrates a strong commitment to promoting the internationalisation of the Chinese yuan, and the Chinese government has implemented a range of supportive policy measures.
Meanwhile, the BRICs are considering alternatives to SWIFT.

Thoughtful, brief essay worth reading ...

Existentially, America is almost at the end of the line
By Molly Slag

Looking at the American political and cultural scene, let us contemplate what I call the “Quintessential Existential Interrogatories”:

(1) Where are we?

(2) How did we get here?

(3) Where are we going?
Many know a slight variant of these questions from Paul Gauguin’s famous painting of the same name: “Where Do We Come From? What Are We? Where Are We Going?” (“D'ou Venons Nous / Que Sommes Nous / Où Allons Nous”), but these three questions crop up all over the place.

I would add a fourth question that is just as important: (4) Is there an alternative?

1. Where Are We?

We are in the age of the irrational hoax. Unlike the Piltdown Man hoax, which was clothed with an aura of credibility and, therefore, was a mere fraud, the hoaxes of Climate Change, Transgenderism, DEI, CRT, Covid Vax, White Supremacy, etc., are not just false; they are also irrational and absurd, utterly lacking any hint of credibility. Moreover, every one of these hoaxes will lead to the destruction of our middle class.

In “The Coup We Never Knew,” Victor Davis Hanson asks: “Did someone or something seize control of the United States?” He then offers the only answer possible: “We are beginning to wake up from a nightmare to a country we no longer recognize, and from a coup we never knew.”

This coup revealed itself plainly in the stolen 2020 election. Many thought that disaster was an outlier, a “one-off” that MAGA could shake off like a dog shaking off a spring shower, but the replication of that same unsavory fact pattern in the 2022 election dashed that hope. Can there be another fair national election? Some have doubts.

We live in a time of electoral fraud. We know that leftist powerbrokers stole the 2020 and 2022 national elections and that they have every intention of continuing to steal elections. Precisely because of this electoral fraud, we are being ruled without our consent.

Dennis Prager lists (and expands upon) some of the absurdities characterizing the political reality of our time, which include:

(1) Men should be allowed to compete in women’s sports.

(2) Defunding police will decrease crime.

(3) Racial segregation is antiracist.

(4) Opposition to racial segregation is racist.

(5) Diversity is strength.

(6) Free speech does not allow for hate speech.

(7) You’re not a human being until you’re born.

(8) Capitalism is evil.

(9) America is systemically racist.

Most notable is that our government approves and propagates all these hoaxes and absurdities. Victor Davis Hanson says we are in a time when our own government is destroying us, and he has detailed ten actions undertaken by the federal government intended to destroy the nation.

Currently, the federal Executive Branch has seized the legislative power for itself, enacting law through administrative regulation and executive order.

The presence in D.C. of the uniparty reaching to grasp all power reveals our process of morphing into China. Little wonder the land is suffused with Chinese spies and Chinese police stations.

2. How did we get here?

We arrived at this dreadful status quo via the left’s successful Gramscian March through the institutions of our government and our society since WWII. Victor David Hanson believes this march is complete because wokeism has infiltrated all of America’s institutions, including the workplace, education, entertainment, medicine, law, the media, and the military.

3. Where Are We Going?

We are headed toward total annihilation as a nation.

4. Is There An Alternative?

No, there is not. Forget it. It’s over; a done deed; a fait accompli…. Well… maybe not quite….

One institution survives, battered but still intact. If the original elemental polity—the family—were to rear up on its hind legs, unceremoniously yank its kids out of government school, and roar a challenge at once fearsome and desperate: “You want our children? Come and take them!” followed by the terrible snarl of the Mamma Grizzly. “You know where we live … right behind those blades of grass!”

Hearing this roar, the confused masses might yet take heart and rise up behind them and implement the Declaration’s injunction to “institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.”

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2023/02/existentially_america_is_almost_at_the_end_of_the_line.html

LEO HOHMANN: America 2023 – Sleepwalking into World War III

Excerpts from the article:

China and Russia are both in full-on war mode, mobilizing their economies, their armies and navies for World War III with America.

Notice I said “America.” Not “NATO.” NATO is America and America is NATO along with its vassal states.

NATO has always been built upon American power. The problem is America has lost its power and any that remains is largely about perception, not reality.

Once the world figures this out, it’s game over. Once they see that the Emperor has no clothes, that it’s all smoke and mirrors — and the balloon incident has started to open people’s eyes — they will be shocked at how weak America actually is.

At the same time America’s government has been corrupted, individual Americans have grown way too comfortable, living in luxury, too engrossed in games, entertainment, and other frivolous things that don’t matter, too ambivalent of things that do matter, to even see what’s happening before their very eyes.

America is in free fall, both economically and militarily. And especially morally. It’s been a gradual decline for decades but at the end things tend to move very fast and I believe we’ve entered that final death spiral.

This is very reminiscent of ancient Rome and its far-flung empire building. Rome, like America, was busy nation building abroad while ignoring the homeland. Finally it imploded from within when it realized the barbarians were not only gathering at the gates, they were inside the gates.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/02/leo-hohmann-america-2023-sleepwalking-world-war-iii/

Just as Rome became increasingly decadent prior to its collapse in 476, so goes America:

Mr. Woman of the Year – USA Today Honors Transgender State Representative
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/03/mr-woman-of-the-year-usa-today-honors-transgender-state-representative/

Not only will it survive, but there will be a reckoning.
Don't underestimate the NPCs and their willingness to go along with the new thing.
One day the new thing will be prosecuting and blaming all of those that has tried like hell to Gay down, jab to death, manipulate into financial ruin, fucked with and manipulated elections, votes, results and minds, the destroyed Media movies and music. They will sort them out, once the worm turns.

Here's the thing, the NPCs wont even admit to it, cop to it or might not even realize, they all bought into it hook line and sinker. But that wont matter because at least they will have finally recognize all of the intentional destruction. They will reject the woke institutions, the dumbing down our our education system, the entitled Thugs, Retards and Morons, that has been elevated to levels that it is a crime in some states and cities if you don't bow down and kiss their ass.

Oh a hard reckoning will be coming, and it will impress the hell out of those of us, that are fed up at this moment.
Our hands are tired and even our resentment of the current state of the union is a crime. The NPCs will smash it all down rather quickly with the same impunity that they can smash up malls and theme parks when they don't get their way.

The NPCs will turn on dime, they left Disco and Zipper pants and never looked back.

RayAmerica says

America is in free fall, both economically and militarily. And especially morally. It’s been a gradual decline for decades but at the end things tend to move very fast and I believe we’ve entered that final death spiral.

Yes, but recall America before Pearl Harbor - a decadent 1920s and depression 1930s. Japan awakened a sleeping giant. Same thing would happen again of the China-Russia alliance attacked militarily. I am sure they know this, so China will just buy politicians that keep the border open and the fentanyl flowing, export the manufacturing, and degrade US society with woke and pedo.

How's "America is in freefall militarily"? Care to expand on this statement?

Tucker Carlson: America's Era Is Coming To An End Just 2 Years Into The Biden Regime
https://rumble.com/v2ee26g-tucker-carlson-americas-era-is-coming-to-an-end-just-2-years-into-the-biden.html

RayAmerica says

Just as Rome became increasingly decadent prior to its collapse in 476, so goes America

Yes, it does seem to be true.

The generation that fought WWII was the product of almost 30 years of ZERO immigration. The melting pot of the USA boils slowly, and requires at least a generation to come to fruition. We need to close the borders and give time for our society to re-amalgamate and do what this country is best able to do - re-define and recreate what it means to be an American.

I must point out that Rome did not fall, that the Emperor over many dominion in sovereign lands with their own Kings. Reached a point where it was no longer feasible or practical.
So they went into King making business under the Holy Throne moniker. They still got their gold, still have their Roman Senate in a sense, but now they don't have to have an Army and defend their empire. All of the other Kings that the Emperor turned Pope anointed. They will do it for them. Defend and Conquests outsourced, and Rome got a religious write off.

The Eastern Empire lasted about 1000 more years than Rome. Of course it changed, Senate was anywhere as important, more Autocratic, abandoned Latin for Greek, etc.

One of the reasons for the collapse of the Western Roman Empire was taxes, serfdom, and debauchery. Better to be under low tax, freeholder, rough and tumble macho Germans than under high tax, serfdom, effette and decadent Romans.

RayAmerica says

Just as Rome became increasingly decadent prior to its collapse in 476, so goes America:

Check out Tiberius and Julia the Elder/Younger, Livia, Vispania Agrippina whom he was forced to divorce. Tiberius was a Philosopher who happened to be a good general, but was manipulated by debauched women

Already by the end of Augustus, gynocentric debauchery was taking hold. Tiberius, Augustus, and much later Domitian tried to "Fix" the debauchery by enforcing the Moral Codes, but it was too late.

In the Republic and the first few decades of Empire, Roman women were strictly controlled, but wealth and prosperity made Romans abandon their sense of duty and discipline over females. And surprise! The birthrate fell and frivolous spending took over, as it ALWAYS does when women are given license.

Also cheap labor slaves from Gaul and Germania imported by Roman Elites replacing Italian workers.

Just another sign, among more than you can number, of America's advanced state of decay. This is what's going on in America's schools:

https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/teacher-civil-rights-radical-theory

RWSGFY says

How's "America is in freefall militarily"? Care to expand on this statement?

RWSGFY says

How's "America is in freefall militarily"? Care to expand on this statement?

After 20 years of war and bombing 7 nations, you are asking this?

Iraq would be the closest we've come to winning in a military sense. What did winning this war do for the good of this nation?

We're in a proxy war with Russia, we're going to lose that. It's not hard to predict it. Is the US military industrial complex involved? That results in disaster, every fucking time. When was the last time there was an exception? Grenada? Maybe the Bosnia war. It's just one fuckup after another, over and over and over again and there's these idiots that think "well, maybe 8th time is a charm!"

The US military is so reviled, that they cannot meet recruitment goals. They're bringing in transgendered people now. They are freaks, which is FINE, if it's not advertised.



Do you know why it's not advertised? Because it's used as propaganda when we go to war by the other side. Need to convince the Iraqis or Iranians or whatever that they are fighting on the morally right side, and the US is just a bunch of fucking degenerates? Pretty easy to do now.

At the same time it's like "hey kid, want to join up with the military?" and they see this stuff too.

A country that needs 5 days from landfall to establish basic order in a 2nd Tier City after spending $100s of Billions on Emergency Reactions is mismanaged.

And no, Katrina was not a 100 year storm, more like a 25 year storm. A storm that Gulf Resident can expect to see at least 3-4 times in a lifetime living there.

AmericanKulak says

A country that needs 5 days from landfall to establish basic order in a 2nd Tier City after spending $100s of Billions on Emergency Reactions is mismanaged.

And no, Katrina was not a 100 year storm, more like a 25 year storm. A storm that Gulf Resident can expect to see at least 3-4 times in a lifetime living there.

Companies like Wallmart were sending in pallets of water bottles, only to have FEMA turn them back. That shit seriously happened.

Look at what is going on in Palestine Ohio, STILL?

Why do we even have a fucking government at this point?

Simple answer is no. We as a people have been poisoned both mentaly and physically. We are divided past the point of no return. Our institutions are lost causes. Our press is owned by corporate conglomerates. Our banks are owned by a small minority that wants us enslaved. Our government is ran by sociopaths.

Senseless acts of violence are becoming more common.

Woman accused of killing car dealership employee in dispute over leased vehicle
https://www.kiro7.com/news/trending/woman-accused-killing-car-dealership-employee-dispute-over-leased-vehicle/XTHI26FB4RHRNKPR3YHZZTJYF4/

richwicks says

Why do we even have a fucking government at this point?

You have the government you deserve. Want a better one? Change it. Bitching on the internet won’t change anything. You have to go to meetings, form coalitions, spend time and money sponsoring candidates and training young people to be responsible participants in society. Do you think overturning Roe V Wade just happened? It took 40 years of hard work to make that happen.

Whatever is wrong with this country can be fixed if you get off your keyboard and start doing the work.

The problem with the founding and early decades of our country was manifest destiny. Our forefathers set their sites too low. They should have aimed to spread liberty to the whole world, not just the continent.

America is an ideal of liberty and justice we have yet to live up to. It will survive.

PeopleUnited says

richwicks says

Why do we even have a fucking government at this point?

You have the government you deserve. Want a better one? Change it.

OK, how do you change it? Give me ANY ideas.

MY idea was to educate the fucking morons about what is going on, because you need to have support. People don't give a fuck if our government murdered 800,000 Iraqis over lies, and thinks that 'the US government would never do this to us!" but they will. Government has no problem murdering US citizens.

They did 9/11. They did the WTC bombing. The murdered David Koresh - Koresh didn't have any working weapons. The murdered Randy Weaver. They run drugs, our government is the largest drug dealer in this nation. They entrap people. The stole an election, they COMMONLY steal elections, been doing it since at least 2004.

That's the LEAST of their crimes and all of that is true. Now, the question is, if people understand this is true, will nothing change?

Now, if the public is educated, and do nothing about it, yes, THEY have the government they deserve. My (possibly incorrect) assumption is people are fucking garbage. But I don't know. The last 2 years has shown me about 90% are.

The chief problem I've always though existed, is that "people don't know". We do NOT have fucking news. Fox news isn't any more real than CNN or PBS. My assumption for a long time, is simply people didn't know, and if they knew, they'd be up in arms about it. Is this a wrong assumption, because if it is, there's nothing to be done. If I had the power to murder say 1,000 people with NO POSSIBILITY of being caught, that wouldn't change the systemic corruption.

If people sit back and let evil run the world, they're evil. If they won't even fucking complain, they're evil. The question is, do they know? Do they know what their government is doing?

richwicks says

Give me ANY ideas.

Run for school board and recruit others to run who are lions not sheep.

PeopleUnited says

richwicks says

Give me ANY ideas.

Run for school board and recruit others to run who are lions not sheep.

My mother and sister were on school boards. I don't have any kids, so pretty weird for me to do that.

Here's an idea, publish the curriculum of every school online, after all, taxpayers pay for it. Place the books, and the tests, online. That kind of happened in the last 2 years, and guess what, parents FINALLY got pissed. My sister and mother were always pissed.

My sister is a civil engineer, when she saw the coursework for Common Core math, she lost her shit. Her kid couldn't even add and subtract numbers properly, you remember



You can teach that in 10 minutes. It's plug and chug.

She was livid when she found out the bullshit Common Core method, but most parents, school is day care, they have calculators anyhow, who cares?

First you have to educate the population, then gauge the reaction. If the public is just a bunch of stupid selfish assholes who don't care, fuck it. They can be slaves, they walked into it, despite our best efforts.

Ever wonder what type of person would have children knowing their children would be slaves? Why do you think we might have such a violence problem in much of black America? Any guesses? Let me tell you, the future will get more violent.

Still, there were basically Chinese slaves, and Irish slaves too. I need to think and research more about slavery. I think slavery though generally creates the worst of a population to have children. Best people don't realize they are slaves. I don't think the Irish or Chinese generally did.

Of course America will 'survive' in one form or another, but we are morphing into a chaotic, Banana Republic with each passing day. Having a blind justice system is one of our greatest protections. Can anyone honestly say that we still have that?

RayAmerica says

Of course America will 'survive' in one form or another, but we are morphing into a chaotic, Banana Republic with each passing day.

We are a banana republic now.

We have shame elections, and we have a dual standard of laws. Our intelligence agencies are REGULARLY caught framing people, and violating the Constitution, we are lied into every war, our media is pure propaganda.

Fuck, the previous president just got indicted on trumped up charges over nothing.

We are there.

RayAmerica says

Of course America will 'survive' in one form or another, but we are morphing into a chaotic, Banana Republic with each passing day. Having a blind justice system is one of our greatest protections. Can anyone honestly say that we still have that?

What makes it non-blind? Politisized prosecutors? But these by definition are political figures and have always been. So if this is the main criteria it means that we never had a blind justice system and the word "still" you used does not apply.

AmericanKulak says

A country that needs 5 days from landfall to establish basic order in a 2nd Tier City after spending $100s of Billions on Emergency Reactions is mismanaged.

NOLA shouldn't be there in the first place. It made sense at the time it was developed at the the gulf and end of the Mississippi. They invested in an area they didn't know. If you're like me and think 80% of people are dumb, imagine 250 years ago? It was probably closer to 95%. It's safe to assume it was developed by near retards just throwing it together for transport of goods. Baton Rouge would have made more sense and just let NOLA be swampland like it is.

I went in 2019. I had fun, but the place is a literal shit hole. They've repaired nothing really since Katrina besides putting windows back up. The structures are shit, even the nice ones. They can't even build a tall hotel without a massive construction incident. Where as a place like Biloxi recovered pretty quickly. I love the south, but most are idiots working with other idiots. It's compounding dumb fuckery.

RWSGFY says

What makes it non-blind? Politisized prosecutors? But these by definition are political figures and have always been. So if this is the main criteria it means that we never had a blind justice system and the word "still" you used does not apply.

For the most part, America's system of justice, with of course exceptions, has not been based on politics. That is no longer the case. Courts now look the other way and refuse to hear cases in which massive amounts of evidence exists regarding stolen elections. Now, we have a rogue local DA in Manhattan that is prosecuting a former President, for the very same case that the Federal Justice Department turned down. If Trump were a Democrat, and an insider, there isn't even a chance this Democrat DA would be pursuing this.

By the way, although local prosecutors are elected officials, they prosecute CRIMINALS, and it's not based on politics.

RFK Jr: 'The Neocon Projects' in Iraq and Ukraine Have 'Made a Laughingstock of U.S. Military Power and Moral Authority

Neocon control of America has led to the collapse of American global hegemony and the shredding of our nation's moral authority, according to Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.

"The collapse of U.S. influence over Saudi Arabia and the Kingdom's new alliances with China and Iran are painful emblems of the abject failure of the Neocon strategy of maintaining U.S. global hegemony with aggressive projections of military power," Kennedy said Monday on Twitter, sharing an article from Reuters on OPEC+ cutting production to spike the price of oil in defiance of the Biden regime.

"China has displaced the American Empire by deftly projecting, instead, economic power," Kennedy continued. "Over the past decade, our country has spent trillions bombing roads, ports, bridges, and airports. China spent the equivalent building the same across the developing world."

"The Ukraine war is the final collapse of the Neocon's short-lived 'American Century.' The Neocon projects in Iraq and Ukraine have cost $8.1 trillion, hollowed out our middle class, made a laughingstock of U.S. military power and moral authority, pushed China and Russia into an invincible alliance, destroyed the dollar as the global currency, cost millions of lives and done nothing to advance democracy or win friendships or influence," Kennedy said.

Kennedy is absolutely correct.

His point was further underlined last month when Mexican President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador went off on the U.S. State Department for accusing Mexico of "human rights abuses" when the Biden regime is working to imprison former President Donald Trump, extradite Julian Assange and bombed the Nord Stream pipelines.

https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=63684

When you start seeing Jack Tranniels cuck out to woke, it's over. The GOPe 1998-2016 was wrong, the millies not only didn't become more conservative with age, they're the first Generation in Living Memory to become MORE left wing with age.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/politics-conservative-twitter-millennials-gen-z_uk_63aef8cce4b0d6f0b9f354c5


Lt. Gov of Minnesota in a Tranny Violent Revolution shirt, a few weeks ago: