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2023 Feb 21, 9:53am   107,293 views  950 comments

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Putin Suspends New START Nuclear Treaty, Puts Nuclear Missiles On Combat Readiness

"President Vladimir Putin on Tuesday suspended Russian participation in the last remaining nuclear arms control treaty with the United States, warning Washington that Russia had put new ground-based strategic nuclear weapons on combat duty," Reuters reports of the new declaration.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/putin-suspends-new-start-nuclear-treaty-puts-new-missiles-combat-readiness

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775   socal2   2023 Oct 25, 1:12pm  

AmericanKulak says

The Biden administration has pressed Israel to delay its imminent invasion of Gaza to allow for the release of more hostages held by Hamas and for aid to reach Gaza, according to two sources briefed on the discussions.


Apparently the delay is also to allow the US military to get missile defense systems installed to protect US troops in the Region.

https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/1717194979557167308
776   RayAmerica   2023 Oct 27, 8:51am  

The big question is; will Iran up the ante?

US airstrikes target Iran-linked sites in Syria in retaliation for recent drone attacks

https://www.fox26houston.com/news/us-airstrikes-target-iran-linked-sites-in-syria-in-retaliation-for-recent-drone-attacks
777   RayAmerica   2023 Oct 27, 9:12am  

As if Ukraine and the Middle East isn't enough ...

WORLD WAR III WATCH: Warmonger Joe Biden is Now Threatening China with War — Pledges Military Action to Defend the Philippines Following Incident in South China Sea (VIDEO)

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/10/world-war-iii-watch-warmonger-joe-biden-is/
778   RayAmerica   2023 Nov 1, 2:03pm  

UK Daily Mail tells readers to get ready for a nuclear war



As concerns grow that a world war could be just around the corner, the UK’s Daily Mail is warning readers to get ready for a nuclear war and providing instructions on surviving.

The fighting in the Middle East is looking increasingly likely to escalate, and with other countries potentially joining the fray, the publication has shared a guide to getting through nuclear fallout. There are currently more than 12,500 nuclear warheads throughout the world.

Dr. Abud Bakri shared a guide for surviving a nuclear war based on his analysis of data from the World Health Organization and the Federal Emergency Management Agency. He explained that there are three basic concepts when it comes to survival: the distance from the blast, appropriate shielding, and the length of time of radiation exposure.

More here: https://wwiii.news/2023-10-30-daily-mail-tells-readers-prepare-nuclear-war.html
780   GNL   2023 Nov 2, 8:22pm  

Patrick says






The only way to stop war is to refuse to fight.

Everyone too old to be drafted ought to support anyone who refuses to go fight.
781   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2023 Nov 2, 8:54pm  

GNL says


Everyone too old to be drafted ought to support anyone who refuses to go fight.


Anyone who sez there will be a draft is full of shit they want to pitch to get attention.

Anyone who believes that shit is a bona-fide idiot I would love to sell the SF Bay Bridge to.

Numerous generals and Pentagon white paper studies have consistently said that the US military can not go back to operating with draftees. And one of the reasons why is because the kids of today can't meet the physical requirements needed, amongst other issues.

We would be better off creating our own version of the French Foreign Legion and send them to die.
782   GNL   2023 Nov 2, 9:27pm  

I wasn't trying to say there will be a draft. But, you think we should make our army out of illegals?
783   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2023 Nov 2, 9:29pm  

GNL says

I wasn't trying to say there will be a draft. But, you think we should make our army out of illegals?


Not the US Army...but the equivalent of the French Foreign Legion, yes.

Are you aware that we currently grant citizenship to foreigners who serve a term already? At least the Roman's demanded 20 years of service for the same thing.
784   AD   2023 Nov 2, 10:19pm  

PumpingRedheads says

GNL says

I wasn't trying to say there will be a draft. But, you think we should make our army out of illegals?

Not the US Army...but the equivalent of the French Foreign Legion, yes.


I think they think they don't need that many infantry grunts or "boots on the ground".

They seemed to be able to meet staffing demands in the last war in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Not like they are envisioning an invasion or occupying force of 300,000 Army infantry soldiers, not at least for the next 20 years where the Iraq and Afghanistan wars are still fresh in memories.

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785   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2023 Nov 3, 1:48am  

IDF vs a supposedly 'disabled' Palestinian.

He is disabled no more.

(I think this is fake. The Americanized date time stamp format gives that away.)

786   Reality   2023 Nov 3, 6:38am  

PumpingRedheads says


We would be better off creating our own version of the French Foreign Legion and send them to die.


In the US, a version of Foreign Legion may well lead to something similar to Mamluk take-over of Egypt (a class of formerly imported slave soldiers taking over a wealthy empire, and lasted multiple centuries). We already had imported German, Italian and Irish immigrants in the 1860's filling the ranks of a newly invented imperial army imposing the start of American Imperialism (aka ACW). At least German, Italian and Irish looked more or less the same as existing population, except for the Catholicism of the latter two groups resulted in them congregating in the big cities resulting in mafia for a few decades before industrialization could absorb the labor and Catholic education movement gave them better opportunities than mafia criminal industries could, leading to integration in the early 20th century. Relying on a culturally and religiously even more different from existing mainstream group as Foreign Legion to be the backbone of the armed forces would only lead to the further subjugation of American people. Voting is only a peaceful proxy of the right and duty to bear arms in a nation/state. Professional military usually leads to the rise of aristocracy; professional military staffed by foreigners, well, that usually means a society ruled by an aristocracy of foreign origins, just like what happened in Mamluk Egypt and in late West Roman Empire.
787   RayAmerica   2024 Jan 2, 7:43am  

Zelensky promises to 'cut off' Crimea in 2024

The Russian peninsula will become the conflict’s “center of gravity,” the Ukrainian leader told The Economist

Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky has predicted that his country's armed forces will "isolate" Crimea in 2024. The region, which joined Russia in 2014 following a bloody nationalist coup in Kiev, hosts Moscow's Black Sea fleet.

Kiev will seek to cut off access to the peninsula by destroying the Kerch bridge, which connects it to the Russian mainland, Zelensky claimed. For this purpose, he once again demanded German-made long-range Taurus cruise missiles, which Berlin has so far refused to supply even after France and the UK provided Kiev with Storm Shadow missiles.

https://www.rt.com/russia/590020-zelensky-crimea-attack-isolate/

If Zelensky makes good on his promise, this would clearly be a major escalation in this limited war. If Russia were to retaliate in the manner that they are capable of, as in leveling Kiev, that could bring a direct military response from the USA and NATO (something Putin has attempted to
avoid). It's not at all inconceivable that this could lead to an all out, nuclear WW III.
788   socal2   2024 Jan 2, 8:39am  

RayAmerica says

If Zelensky makes good on his promise, this would clearly be a major escalation in this limited war.


FFS - blowing up a bridge is considered a "major escalation" while Russia has been throwing every working rocket and missile at civilian targets in Kiev this past week?

Nearly 2 years on and the pathetic Russian military STILL can't control the airspace. So Russia is stuck with impotent strikes on civilian targets which is another example of the growing list of war crimes by Putin's drunk and retarded army.
789   RWSGFY   2024 Jan 2, 9:20am  

socal2 says


RayAmerica says


If Zelensky makes good on his promise, this would clearly be a major escalation in this limited war.


FFS - blowing up a bridge is considered a "major escalation" while Russia has been throwing every working rocket and missile at civilian targets in Kiev this past week?

Nearly 2 years on and the pathetic Russian military STILL can't control the airspace. So Russia is stuck with impotent strikes on civilian targets which is another example of the growing list of war crimes by Putin's drunk and retarded army.



Blitzkrieg - failed.

Taking out infrastructure and plunging the population into the "stone age" without electricity, water and sanitation - failed.

Freezing Europe - failed.

Black Sea blockade - failed.

Annexation of additional 3 oblasts - failed.

Fully taking of 2 Dumb Ass oblasts mostly occupied since 2014 - failed.

What's left? Desperately cosplaying Nixon's "madman theory" (which failed for Nixon back then) in hope that somehow the US and Europe cucks out and hands them
the "victory" they are impotent to achieve with help of their butt-buddies - CCP, Norks and Iran? Seems like it judging by the "50 kopeck brigade" beating on that old tired drum despite repeated evidence of all "Medvedev red lines" being complete and utter BS.

What a shitshow.
790   socal2   2024 Jan 2, 9:58am  

RWSGFY says

What a shitshow.


But but but......."Ukraine is Fucked" we are constantly told by mindless Putin fluffers.

Yes, Ukraine was "fucked' once Russia did a full-on invasion nearly 2 years ago.

But no sober observer can look at the last 2 years and think Russia has come even close to fulfilling their war aims.

Ukraine wins by not losing.....
791   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Jan 2, 10:17am  

socal2 says

Ukraine wins by not losing.....


Then Ukraine Is Fucked. Because it is not going to win. Even @WookieMan knows this.
792   WookieMan   2024 Jan 2, 12:45pm  

UkraineIsFucked says

socal2 says


Ukraine wins by not losing.....


Then Ukraine Is Fucked. Because it is not going to win. Even WookieMan knows this.

Ukraine 1,000% is fucked. You keep missing my point. Russia as a "super power" is way more fucked. They can't operate their own infrastructure. This doesn't take 2 years to play out. In 10 years Russia will collapse. Europe is managing just fine with another warm winter so far. They're showing they don't need Russia. No one does besides the oligarchs.

Russia can't manage the nat gas and oil without Western help. They have no intelligent men and any that could obtain that are dying in a dumb ass war. This isn't a today conversation. Ukraine will make and do what it can with what is has. Russia is in a massively fucking world of hurt. The media just doesn't report it. It's math. Russians time and time again have shown how worthless they are. This isn't about Ukraine. This is about another collapse of the shit show currently called Russia. Formerly the USSR. I hope you're getting my point of view. Because it's fact no matter how much you push back at me.
793   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Jan 8, 2:53pm  

WookieMan says


Russia as a "super power" is way more fucked.


Russia was never a super power. The old USSR was.

Russia is a regional power. Still is. More than NATO is, too. Because if Ukraine is losing this war so is NATO.
794   RayAmerica   2024 Jan 12, 9:10am  

What Do You Call a War With China Plus a War With Russia Plus a Colossal War in the Middle East?

Did you see that we just bombed the Houthis? Each new day in 2024 seems to bring some sort of a new escalation, and for now most Americans can ignore all of the fighting because it is all happening on the other side of the globe. But how are they going to feel when the U.S. is actively engaged in multiple wars simultaneously and those wars are directly affecting daily life inside the United States? The time to speak out against the foolish policies of our leaders is before the entire world is engulfed in flames. Once thousands of missiles start flying, it will be too late.

Most Americans don’t realize this, but this weekend Taiwan will hold an election which may determine whether the U.S. and China go to war.

In fact, China has literally framed this election as “a choice between war and peace”…

More here: https://discernreport.com/what-do-you-call-a-war-with-china-plus-a-war-with-russia-plus-a-colossal-war-in-the-middle-east/
795   The_Deplorable   2024 Jan 12, 4:10pm  

RayAmerica says
"What Do You Call a War With China Plus a War With Russia Plus a Colossal War in the Middle East?"

I call it Globalist imbecility that doesn't have a chance.
796   RayAmerica   2024 Feb 27, 7:38am  

Nuclear War; the ultimate depopulation scheme:

Macron Floats Troops in Ukraine for First Time, Moscow Warns of ‘Inevitable’ War with NATO

Discussion of sending NATO troops into Ukraine itself has suddenly broken into the open for the first time, prompting Russia to warn that “a direct military conflict between NATO and Russia will be inevitable” if Western troops became engaged.

NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg issued a denial that the alliance was planning to send troops to fight in Ukraine on Tuesday morning, following 24 hours of public discussion among member states on the move, which also triggered a dark threat from Moscow about their response to any such deployment.

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2024/02/27/wwiii-watch-macron-floats-troops-in-ukraine-for-first-time-moscow-warns-of-inevitable-war-with-nato/
797   AD   2024 Feb 27, 9:09am  

RayAmerica says

Macron Floats Troops in Ukraine for First Time, Moscow Warns of ‘Inevitable’ War with NATO


Macron put under pressure by Biden's deep state to release this trial balloon about NATO troops in Ukraine.

Or Macron could have done this as a preemptive push against Biden's deep state trying to behind-the-scenes promote this, almost in the same sense as the CIA sites in Ukraine. Macron is savvy as far as this type of Machiavelli behavior.

I read that the German government quickly shot it down.
798   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Feb 27, 9:12am  

AD says

RayAmerica says


Macron Floats Troops in Ukraine for First Time, Moscow Warns of ‘Inevitable’ War with NATO


Macron put under pressure by Biden's deep state to release this trial balloon about NATO troops in Ukraine.

Or Macron could have done this as a preemptive push against Biden's deep state trying to behind-the-scenes promote this, almost in the same sense as the CIA sites in Ukraine. Macron is savvy as far as this type of Machiavelli behavior.

I read that the German government quickly shot it down.


This is just gaslighting BS to scare voters into pressuring the GOP to cave for more money to Ukraine 'so our boys & trans girls' won't have to fight. Schumer was tooting this BS last month as well, renember?
799   Misc   2024 Feb 27, 9:14am  

I think he is just trying to threaten the peasant uprising he's got going on.

He's gonna lose power and he is losing his mind because of his self-made fuck-ups.
800   HeadSet   2024 Feb 27, 10:40am  

AD says

I read that the German government quickly shot it down.

Yes, I suppose the Germans had had their fill of Russian troops in their capital.
801   RayAmerica   2024 Feb 29, 7:20am  

Aren't you glad that Crazy Biden and the Neo-Cons have our backs covered?

Putin Issues (Another) WWIII Warning: Put Western Troops in Ukraine and Get Global Nuclear War in Return



Put Western troops on the ground in Ukraine and get a global nuclear war in return. That was the clear threat issued Thursday by Russian President Vladimir Putin as he told the West to keep out of the fight between Moscow and Kyiv.

AP reports he spoke in a state-of-the-nation address ahead of next month’s election he’s all but certain to win, underlining his readiness to hold Russian gains in Ukraine at any cost.

In a thinly veiled reference to French President Emmanuel Macron’s statement earlier this week that the future deployment of Western ground troops to Ukraine is possible, Putin warned it would lead to “tragic” consequences for the countries who decide to do that, repeating earlier threats of igniting global nuclear conflagration.

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2024/02/29/putin-issues-another-wwiii-warning-put-western-troops-in-ukraine-and-get-global-nuclear-war-in-return/
802   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Feb 29, 7:25am  

But why would we consider putting our own troops on the ground in Ukey Naziland? We were constantly told that the Ukey Nazis were winning!


803   RWSGFY   2024 Feb 29, 9:57am  

UkraineIsFucked says


derp, derp... Ukey Naziland? .... derp, derp... Nazis...


Oh, we finally have proof of Nazi being in charge there on the second anniversary of the Great Christian Buryat-Mongol SCHMO? Who are they? Couldn't be these Azov fighters who were accused of Nazi crimes, were supposed to be put on trial and Hitler portraits tattoed on their butts finally exposed for the world to see .... and then quietly returned home. Who else?
804   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Feb 29, 10:02am  

RWSGFY says

Oh, we finally have proof of Nazi being in charge there on the second anniversary of the Great Christian Buryat-Mongol SCHMO? Who are they? Couldn't be these Azov fighters who were accused of Nazi crimes, were supposed to be put on trial and Hitler portraits tattoed on their butts finally exposed for the world to see .... and then quietly returned home. Who else?


What planet you live on?

Banderites = Nazis
805   AD   2024 Feb 29, 11:09am  

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I wonder if this is in response to Macron putting out that trial balloon about deploying troops in Ukraine.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

https://www.the-sun.com/news/10533652/putin-state-nation-invasion-election/

VLAD'S RED BUTTON Putin threatens to NUKE the West after accusing Nato of planning to strike Russia in rambling speech
Putin boasted how Russia has weapons that 'could defeat them [the West] on their own territory'

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806   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Feb 29, 11:25am  

AD says


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I wonder if this is in response to Macron putting out that trial balloon about deploying troops in Ukraine.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

https://www.the-sun.com/news/10533652/putin-state-nation-invasion-election/

VLAD'S RED BUTTON Putin threatens to NUKE the West after accusing Nato of planning to strike Russia in rambling speech
Putin boasted how Russia has weapons that 'could defeat them [the West] on their own territory'

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There's a lot they can do to us w/o nukes. Submarine launched cruise missile delivered EMP (yes, you don't need to detonate a nuke high in orbit to create a wide area EMP) attacks on our cities, for example. Technically, they won't kill anyone directly.

Or embedded Spetznatz teams that blow key bridges across the Mississippi. I once read that there is just three crossings that 70% of US transcontinental freight use, for example.

Or sabotage just a few refineries. Esp in California and Hawaii.

It is not that hard to cripple us badly and in ways that will make Pearl Harbor look like child's play.

Every example I just gave except for the EMP non-state perpetrators can pull off on a budget financed by credit cards, for crying out loud.
807   socal2   2024 Feb 29, 1:05pm  

UkraineIsFucked says

It is not that hard to cripple us badly and in ways that will make Pearl Harbor look like child's play.

Every example I just gave except for the EMP non-state perpetrators can pull off on a budget financed by credit cards, for crying out loud.


Yet - Russia still hasn't been able to cripple their much smaller and weaker next door neighbor....
808   AD   2024 Feb 29, 1:20pm  

UkraineIsFucked says

There's a lot they can do to us w/o nukes. Submarine launched cruise missile delivered EMP (yes, you don't need to detonate a nuke high in orbit to create a wide area EMP) attacks on our cities, for example. Technically, they won't kill anyone directly.

Or embedded Spetznatz teams that blow key bridges across the Mississippi. I once read that there is just three crossings that 70% of US transcontinental freight use, for example.

Or sabotage just a few refineries. Esp in California and Hawaii.

It is not that hard to cripple us badly and in ways that will make Pearl Harbor look like child's play.

Every example I just gave except for the EMP non-state perpetrators can pull off on a budget financed by credit cards, for crying out loud.


Yes, also start fires such as in Texas panhandle and near a nuclear weapons manufacturing facility.

Lets hope the drought map does not show a lot of drought areas this summer

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809   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Feb 29, 1:20pm  

socal2 says

Yet - Russia still hasn't been able to cripple their much smaller and weaker next door neighbor....


Riight. Just 300,000 Ukrainian soldiers have 'disappeared' and large swaths of the country do not have electricity.
810   The_Deplorable   2024 Feb 29, 1:31pm  

RayAmerica says

"Putin Issues (Another) WWIII Warning..."

From the link: "Nuclear Threat: Russia Will Drop ‘Entire Arsenal’ on London, Washington if it Doesn’t Win Ukraine War"

If?

What If? There is no if here because Russia defeated NATO and the Nazi Globalists in Ukraine!

Frankly there is no if because in Ukraine Russia handed the neoCon Globalists their head in a platter and as a result the Unipolar era is dead.
811   WookieMan   2024 Feb 29, 3:02pm  

The_Deplorable says

RayAmerica says

"Putin Issues (Another) WWIII Warning..."

From the link: "Nuclear Threat: Russia Will Drop ‘Entire Arsenal’ on London, Washington if it Doesn’t Win Ukraine War"

If?

What If? There is no if here because Russia defeated NATO and the Nazi Globalists in Ukraine!

Frankly there is no if because in Ukraine Russia handed the neoCon Globalists their head in a platter and as a result the Unipolar era is dead.

Both have lost. Ukraine the pawn. Russia has non-functional nukes. It's as obvious as can be. They can't demolish their neighbor. They could have used nukes. They can't and won't. Even their artillery is shit. Ukraine is trashed and Russia looks gay. As the West backs out funding this will be obvious. This should have been 2 weeks max. Not years...
812   richwicks   2024 Feb 29, 7:42pm  

AmericanKulak says

"Lied about Pearl Harbor" - Uh, Vals from multiple IJN Carriers didn't descend on Pearl Harbor and dive bomb ships at anchor?


Pearl Harbor was not a surprise attack. A Japanese spy sub was sunk hours before the bombing, the (main) fleet was deployed on maneuvers to keep them safe, there were radio intercepts - there wasn't radio silence by the Japanese, and the "day of infamy" happened with the help of the highest levels of the US government.

AmericanKulak says

The Kaiser paid saboteurs to put bombs on US Shipping, blow up a Nitrate storage facility at Black Tom, paid Mexican bandits to raid over the US border, and sank our neutral ships that have a right to sell donkeys and grain to whomever we damned feel like as a sovereign state with Freedom of the Seas.


It's very possible, even very likely.

But our own institutions would do this as well. We cannot know.

AmericanKulak says

We have to take a 2-3% GDP wallop because the Kaiser doesn't want us selling to our top 3 trade partners because HE is at war with them? Fuck outta here.


That's probably why the criminals controlling the US at the time manufactured an excuse to start the war, that was Pearl Harbor. They did everything they could do to provoke Japan.

The US is provoking Russia for the same reason, they need a war to blame the problems THEY CAUSED on somebody else. "Duh, it's the Putin Price Hike!" On top of that, the offense industry benefits, and criminals that are bribed in our government make a killing as well.

You have to start thinking like a sociopath to understand them.

AmericanKulak says

Saddam invaded Kuwait. We never gave "permission".


April Glaspie was US ambassador at the time, SHE gave him the go-ahead by saying that the US would not take sides:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_Glaspie#Meetings_with_Saddam_Hussein

Go look at the transcripts. They were disputed at the time, but finally she just resigned and disappeared. The US wanted that war and they got it.

And why do you care about Kuwait anyhow? When is the last time the US "news" talked about Kuwait? Just WHAT are they to us? Saudi Arabia attacked Yemen and Somalia, was that all over the news? Nope. The US has been helping to bomb them though.

AmericanKulak says

No 82nd Airborne or 24th Mech Inf was ever sent to Syria. Trump cleaned up ISIS in weeks by simply allowing A-10s to BRRRRRt the fuck out of ISIS tanker trucks going into Turkey.


Got no idea who was sent, but people were sent. ISIS (or somebody like them) were likely the ones that did the chemical attack in Ghouta. There was no chemical attack in Douma, that was fabricated. Two whisteblowers from the OPCW came forward to demonstrate that beyond a shadow of a doubt. ISIS was funded by Israel and the United States. Well, at least the US armed ISIS, they got their weapons supposedly by "raiding" Iraqi bases. You try to steal some shit from a US military base, nice knowing ya if you try. Just the stupidity of US propaganda is so frustrating people believe it.

AmericanKulak says

The Gulf of Tonkin was fog of war shit, but it's also true that the Soviets were dumping a shitload of weapons into North Vietnam. You know, this thing called a Cold War where the two sides reacted to each other out whenever one made a move.


The Gulf of Tonkin incident never happened. It possibly could have been a mistake, but if the US didn't go into Vietnam, there'd just be a lot more people there. China wasn't going to take over Vietnam or Cambodia, and they still haven't. Every US servicemen that died in that war, died for nothing other than making money for offense contractors.
813   richwicks   2024 Feb 29, 7:45pm  

Eric Holder says

AmericanKulak says


The First Iraq War didn't involve Saddam invading Kuwait and raiding into Saudi Arabia and launching missiles at neutral countries?


WE PROVOKED HIM!!!


No we didn't. We told him we would do nothing if he did.

We also funded him and gave him weapons of mass destruction from 1980 to 1988 when Iraq was at war with Iran. The US lost control of Iran in 1979 as a result of the Iranian Revolution and the Iranian Hostage Crisis (of spies), and they gained control of Iran by overthrowing their government in 1953 to install a dictator puppet who is who the Shah was.
814   richwicks   2024 Feb 29, 7:50pm  

AmericanKulak says


The Biden administration has pressed Israel to delay its imminent invasion of Gaza to allow for the release of more hostages held by Hamas and for aid to reach Gaza, according to two sources briefed on the discussions.


No.

Israel needs an excuse to keep bombing Gaza, and those are the hostages. Israel has been offered the hostages back for relatively trifling requests like a ceasefire for TWO DAYS. There's the Hannibal Directive in effect.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannibal_Directive

The hostages are as good as dead.

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