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indc says

UkraineIsTotallyFucked

Why do you think Trump is talking about De-dollarisation now?

Trump is concerned the standard of living will significantly degrade because of a lot weaker dollar. Biden has not even during the 2020 campaign.

That is why Trump realizes we have to be as energy independent as possible, as especially food prices will be hard hit with an increase in the price of diesel.

Perhaps also this means that the price of the cheapest laptop at Walmart goes up 50% because of de-dollarization.

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AD says

That is why Trump realizes we have to be as energy independent as possible, as especially food prices will be hard hit with an increase in the price of diesel.

We are. We are a net oil and gas exporter (on and off). Food? We have been a huge exporter of that for over a century.

AD says

Perhaps also this means that the price of the cheapest laptop at Walmart goes up 50% because of de-dollarization.

And all of that will be sold for dollars. So much for 'de-dollarization'.

They will then be made in North America and a few other places.

Basic take here: UST loses reserve asset status bit US dollar does not lose reserve currency status.



https://youtu.be/DD1CnjI2Z3k?si=IWyzw7QlIYKjIXVO

UkraineIsTotallyFucked says

And all of that will be sold for dollars. So much for 'de-dollarization'.

They will then be made in North America and a few other places.

Yes, sold in dollars at Walmart and other retail outlets in the USA, but at a higher price because of de dolarization (and weakened USA dollar).

True, as far as being made other than by the Chicoms such as made in Mexico, Vietnam, Philippines, Guatemala, Peru, etc.

Cheapest Chrome book at Walmart around $188 now. I think same sold for around $150 a couple of years ago.

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AD says

but at a higher price because of de dolarization (and weakened USA dollar).

There is no 'de-dollarization'.

The Walmart example you cite is not an example of de-dollarization. Dollars were used to buy the fucking laptop, not gold or bitcoin or magical BRICS bucks.

A lot of references to 'yuan' in this article could apply to 'yen' 27 years ago. Especially about export mercantilism.

https://mishtalk.com/economics/what-would-it-take-for-a-bric-based-currency-to-succeed/

China is largely dependent on energy and food from the rest of the world. It has dirt and mines, as well as rice paddies, but not enough food to feed its people or energy to fuel its industry (this is why they're gung-ho for nuclear, besides the obvious arms benefit of the PUREX process for refining plutonium).

Europe and the US have to pay farmers to curtail production so as to maintain prices - their farmers are that productive because the climate and resources are at present abundant. Hell, Europe is trying to run its farmers off their lands because the cows fart too much.

stereotomy says

Europe and the US have to pay farmers to curtail production so as to maintain prices - their farmers are that productive because the climate and resources are at present abundant. Hell, Europe is trying to run its farmers off their lands because the cows fart too much.

European farmers are dependent on farm supports and protectionism precisely because they are not productive as they need to be. Same for Japanese farmers.

What? How come no rubles, rupees or rials are involved? Duuhhh..BRICS De-dollarization!

Wow! $400 billion!

But...BRICS! De-dollarization!

Ppl, let me help you to isolate when the possibility or perhaps better stated ... the fear of de-dollarization was apparent in the global markets. It was during the reign of error ... George W Bush, the worst president in modern US history.

That's when Gold broke out of its multi-decade bearish channel and into a bull market. Here's that chart ...



Since GWB, gold bugs have been screaming & shouting but yet, instead of expecting every pullback to $1100/oz or $1500/oz (or even $1800/oz), to melt up to $5000/oz or $10000/oz, they could have just swing traded it and made money.

https://x.com/saifedean/status/1801154864514208008

https://patrick.net/post/1381521/2024-06-22-global-central-banks-plan-to-increase

First the USD was going to hyperinflate and lose the GRC.

Then was going to be replaced by the Euro.

Then SWIFT was going to be usurped by INSTEX.

Then the PetroYuan was going to kill the PetroDollar.

Then Shanghai Gold Exchange was touted as the killer app.

When that didn’t work the e-yuan was sure to do it.

After that came Libra.

During Covid the Fed did everything the dollar fatalists ever predicted and they assured me the DXY would never again go above 100.

Then the DXY went to a 30 year high.
Bitcoin and crypto have created fabulous wealth but have also solidified the USD as GRC via stable coins.

And amongst all of this stuff that has never worked over the years the BRICs continuously hinted “this year” would be their big launch. And yet Lucy pulls the football away every year.

Now that none of this stuff has worked the goalposts have been moved again and two new stories have emerged.

1) The USD wont lose Global Reserve Currency status but USTs will lose Global Reserve Asset status…never mind the fact that USTs losing GRA status would contribute to the USD returning to all time highs.
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2) The USD is not the most important form of money but energy is. Never mind that money was invented so man could harness energy without having to use it directly.

I continue to love these de-dollarization stories for the same reason I love science fiction.
It’s creative, it’s interesting, it’s forward looking….and in 20 or 30 years some of it will be true..

https://x.com/SantiagoAuFund/status/1761384508077592784

BRICS replacing the USD is like 20 years old right now. It's all Syrio-Iranian-Russo MSM bullshit

DemocratsAreTotallyFucked says

Kim Dotcom is a stupid cunt.

I look at this fund which is priced in US dollars. Ticker is BNDX and I compare it to the ticker BND. This gives me some glimpse as far as owning foreign assets and how they exchange or convert to US dollars.

BNDX dropped about 20% from its all time high in 2019, and BND dropped about 26% from its all time high in 2021.

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Also I noticed that Walmart's cheapest laptops (Chromebook and Windows) are still $180 as they were in 2020.

That tells me the dollar is still strong as far as imported cheap laptops.

I'd run Ubuntu on the cheap Windows laptop.

DemocratsAreTotallyFucked says

First the USD was going to hyperinflate and lose the GRC.

Then was going to be replaced by the Euro.

Then SWIFT was going to be usurped by INSTEX.

Then the PetroYuan was going to kill the PetroDollar.

Then Shanghai Gold Exchange was touted as the killer app.

When that didn’t work the e-yuan was sure to do it.

After that came Libra.

Hindus are chimps. Nobody with two brain cells believe these chimps.
But these low IQ idiots do believe in their own BS like flying monkey:

Bridgewater steps back from China as biggest hedge fund slashes stock bets for 7th quarter
The US hedge fund’s holdings of Chinese stocks listed in the US have declined by 80 per cent in value since September 2022, according to filings

https://www.scmp.com/business/markets/article/3274775/bridgewater-cuts-china-stock-bets-7th-straight-quarter-market-trails-us-japan#

brics has no currency it’s just cancel culture avoidance for inner trade between members, no middle man.

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says

brics has no currency it’s just cancel culture avoidance for inner trade between members, no middle man.

That is pretty much all it has amounted to so far, yes. But it isn't because the dollar 'is trash'. It's because demand for it is stronger. Esp when we raised our interest rates fast & hard. That messed up things for the Turd World that have at least $70T in debt amongst themselves.

debt by nation breakdown. we are way ahead, and i don’t think that’s good.

https://www.usdebtclock.org/world-debt-clock.html

Three contiguous regions that comprise 50% of the world's GDP.

DemocratsAreTotallyFucked says

Three contiguous regions that comprise 50% of the world's GDP.

Only thing that matters is GDP to debt ratio. And it totally lies about China's by excluding the massive debts held by SOEs.

DemocratsAreTotallyFucked says

Only thing that matters is GDP to debt ratio.

Yes as that is akin to debt to income ratio. It measures how sustainable the debt load is.

Its also important to track debt payment or debt service as a percentage of tax receipts, and debt payment as a percentage of total federal budget.

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DemocratsAreTotallyFucked says

And it totally lies about China's by excluding the massive debts held by SOEs.

as far as State Owned Industries (SOEs) in Communist China, yes as the Chicoms can easily conceal the debt of their SOEs

they do not have the transparency of the USA such as Amazon and Google have to report their financials and investors track debt to equity ratio, etc

BRICS 'is working'.

https://www.vedomosti.ru/finance/articles/2024/08/20/1056702-kitaiskie-banki-vozvraschayut-platezhi-za-uzhe-poluchennie-importerami-tovari?from=newsline

DemocratsAreTotallyFucked says

BRICS 'is working'.

https://www.vedomosti.ru/finance/articles/2024/08/20/1056702-kitaiskie-banki-vozvraschayut-platezhi-za-uzhe-poluchennie-importerami-tovari?from=newsline

Yeah same goes with Russian selling more of its oil and gas to India. India is paying with Indian currency and I believe India is putting restrictions on what Russia can buy with those India dollars.

India relying a lot more on Russia oil and gas, whereas only 45% of its energy imports are from OPEC versus 85% in 2015.

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/indias-russian-oil-imports-rise-nine-month-high-april-2024-05-21/

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AD says

I believe India is putting restrictions on what Russia can buy with those India dollars.

True.

These peeps all want to export but not import, for the most part. That won't work.

DemocratsAreTotallyFucked says

None of this makes sense to me.

Sure you can run a deficit with gold. Why would it make any difference to a trade deficit whether Russia is using gold or dollars?

And what are they talking about with Russian buyers getting their money back from China after receiving the goods? Who is sending the money back to Russia?

Patrick says

And what are they talking about with Russian buyers getting their money back from China after receiving the goods? Who is sending the money back to Russia?

Chinese banks or intermediary bsnks. The Indians have done it via another way, buy the result is that Russians have rupees that they aren't allowed to spend on Indian goods they want to buy.

Patrick says

Sure you can run a deficit with gold.

Nope. Not really. Not for long, after all. That was why under the old Bretton Woods system nations had to settle their trade accounts after no more than a year even if the trade was in dollars. Because under Bretton Woods, dollars were redeemable for gold on demand by nations in the system. The French in particular were dicks about it from the 1950s on.

Then some countries got the bright idea of buying US treasures instead of goods with their surpluses to get around that while making $$$ in interest. The rest of that story you already know.

DemocratsAreTotallyFucked says

Chinese banks or intermediary bsnks. The Indians have done it via another way, buy the result is that Russians have rupees that they aren't allowed to spend on Indian goods they want to buy.

https://www.asianews.it/news-en/Delhi-pays-for-Russian-oil-in-rupees,-which-Moscow-reinvests-in-India-60711.html

Under this mechanism, some Russian banks, including Gazprom and Rosbank, have opened rupee accounts in Indian banks, on behalf of Russian banks.

“The rising unused rupee balance for Russian entities in these accounts was a big concern for Russia,” the source added.

India is now trying to identify projects into which Russian investments can flow, like construction and certain infrastructure improvements.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov first hinted at the issue in September last year, saying that Moscow had "billions of rupees" deposited in Indian banks that could not be used.

After China, Russia is India’s second largest import source with imports rising by 32.95 per cent in 2023-24, to US$ 61.44 billion, billion in oil alone.

This is strange as the Russians should be able to do whatever they want as far as spend the rupees in India.

Send Gazprom or other state owned enterprises (SOEs) employees to India and give them equivalent of $5000 each and let them go buy Indian made goods and India services such as clothing, a hotel or resort stay, etc

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AD says

This is strange as the Russians should be able to do whatever they want as far as spend the rupees in India.

Nope. Chinese are pulling similar shit as well.

They all want some dollar alternative system but won't stop fucking each other within it. Like the story of the Scorpion & the Crocodile crossing the river.

This is why I keep telling ppl that BRICS is PR bullshit and nothing more, really. Oh sure, they are developing their own alternative to SWIFT. So what? GIGO applies here. See above.

That is why that tweet said, "..building a $ alternative is HARD".

If Japan, South Korea,Taiwan, Australia, Canada, Costa Rica and Singapore wanted to do it, fine. They would have a shot because they have the cultures and subsequent legal property protections to make it work.

But loser shitholes like China, Russia and India who fuck over foreigners everyday when it comes to FDI like rain water falls from the sky? This is worse in a lot of ways. So yes, hard. A lot hard.

So, gold or the currency of a global dominant power. Preferably one with a Navy four times the size of all the others combined, with a big chunk of the world's GDP and at least 6,000 nuclear weapons.

But...BRICS! (AND "You don't know WTF you are talking about, DATF!)

America Hating Fluffers gotta fluff. <--- That's the real reason they post shit back at me.