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clambo says

New York is fucked.
It's going to have crime forever; the federal government created gangster breeding farms, and subsidized hood rats to breed bastard children who grow up to be criminals.
The local government then has to employ an army of cops at huge expense to try to control them.,
Middle class people are taxed to death as they try to avoid being mugged or murdered.
No wonder 50% of NYC is foreign; the New Yorkers escaped.
"New York's alright until they push you in front of a subway." Fear

Please, calling some New Yorkers "Hood Rats" is insulting to actual NY rats. These flea-bitten, disease-carrying harbingers of inner-city decay continue to outpace all efforts at eradication. All hail the Rats of NY!!

https://babylonbee.com/news/trumps-been-indicted-here-are-the-9-things-that-happen-next

Now that former President Trump has officially been indicted, everyone wants to know how this whole ordeal will unfold. Here are the nine things that will be happening next:

Trump will take the best, most beautiful mugshot the world has ever seen - that NFT is going to be YUGE.
The entire NYPD will wait in line to take selfies with him - it's tough being a hated criminal.
Trump will be stripped nude and marched through the city with a pagan priest yelling "shame!" and ringing a bell - pretty standard.
Trump's lawyers will file to dismiss the case on the grounds that a man and his mistress can't be charged with the same crime - checkmate, Alvin!
The judge will then determine Trump's guilt by having him tossed into the Hudson to see if he floats - luckily, Big Macs are pretty buoyant.
Trump will be thrown in jail, where Epstein's prison guards will be called out of retirement for one last mission - uh oh!
Dementors will attempt to suck Trump's life force away, but he will ward them off with a patronus of himself - we hear it takes the shape of a buffalo.
Trump will escape prison by slowly tunneling his way out behind a poster of Stormy Daniels - brilliant.
Every other politician will also be arrested for their crimes - hahahaha just kidding!

NDrLoR says

richwicks says

You know Japan has very low crime rates
They're also ethnically the same, shared heritage and beliefs which usually results in lower crime.

Apparently, not as low as one might think. The Japanese have a more compartmentalized system, with the criminal elements part of the governance. When somebody avails themselves of the services of the criminal government, the standard government will barely if at all protect them, as long as the criminal elements stay in their lane.

There are stories of Yakuza chasing citizens in the street, and the police just acting as if nothing is happening. The system seems to acknowledge that crime provides services to wayward citizens, but they are then subject to laws of the criminal jungle by their own accord and are kind of self fucked.

Ceffer says

NDrLoR says

richwicks says

You know Japan has very low crime rates
They're also ethnically the same, shared heritage and beliefs which usually results in lower crime.

Apparently, not as low as one might think. The Japanese have a more compartmentalized system, with the criminal elements part of the governance. When somebody avails themselves of the services of the criminal government, the standard government will barely if at all protect them, as long as the criminal elements stay in their lane.

There are stories of Yakuza chasing citizens in the street, and the police just acting as if nothing is happening. The system seems to acknowledge that crime provides services to wayward citizens, but they are then subject to laws of the criminal jungle by their own accord and are kind of self fucked.

Maybe so and while that ain't right it's better than leftoid lawlessness. Similar to the Mafia regulating their turf in Italy. Is it wrong? Yes. Is it better than a horde of joggers descending on the country, robbing and looting (and killing) everyone, raping their daugters (and like trans fucks desecrating 100s of years of Christian decency and traditions), except for the corrupt leftoid traitor politicians who get private security on taxpayer dime? Surely so!

https://trendingpoliticsnews.com/wapo-fact-checker-gets-humiliated-by-twitters-community-notes-after-claiming-alvin-bragg-isnt-backed-by-soros/

Far-left Washington Post Editor Glenn Kessler tried his best to defend Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg against claims that he is “backed” by Soros, but he got utterly embarrassed in the process. Kessler published a piece called “The incendiary claim that George Soros ‘funds’ Alvin Bragg”, but his story had some major holes in it.

His “fact check” claims there are “no links” between Soros and Bragg, but the Twitter “Community Notes” feature set the record straight. ...

Now talk of a gag order from the Judge. Does this mean Trump can't Campaign?? Sounds like the outcome the dems wanted. Silence Trump.

rocketjoe79 says

Now talk of a gag order from the Judge. Does this mean Trump can't Campaign?? Sounds like the outcome the dems wanted. Silence Trump.

He can't talk about case specifics. It's a gray area, especially in this case. But he can still campaign. He'll just say stuff like "you know what they're doing to me, you've seen, it's the worst I've seen ever and it will tear the country apart." As long as he doesn't mention the indictment or case I think he's fine.

This is quite possibly the dumbest thing Dems could have done. ALL Dem House Reps are shitting their pants right now. I don't know what Senators are up for reelection, but this could turn into a bloodbath.

We'll see what the charges are, but it seems like a charge for accounting for too many meals with clients for yourself type charge. Which is usually just a fine and you move on. If he paid Cohen for any other legal fees in that tax year the whole thing is dead in the water. Trump doesn't do his own taxes, the accountant likely signed them. They have E&O insurance.

If there's $120k to Cohen and that was it, from campaign funds, then it gets tricky. It's all about what he paid Cohen overall during a specific timeline really and when. If there's $200k on the ledger to Cohen, then this is probably over pretty quickly. Bragg probably doesn't have all the info that a trial would bring and he likely is ending his career. But will sell a book or become an analyst. These people aren't as stupid as they seem.

Ceffer says

Apparently, not as low as one might think. The Japanese have a more compartmentalized system, with the criminal elements part of the governance. When somebody avails themselves of the services of the criminal government, the standard government will barely if at all protect them, as long as the criminal elements stay in their lane.

You may be right. I've not been to Japan, but I listen to people who are expats in that area. It's an orderly, crime free area, according to them.

There's a guy that hangs out in front of the store I go to that is homeless, he's a aggressive, abusive, black man who has repeatedly threatened me and other people. He is terribly racist. Such a thing is unheard of in Japan. Such a man would be arrested and removed in Japan from my understanding.

Mafia control in Japan is not unexpected, we have mafia control here, but to a far lesser extent. Organized crime is probably better than disorganized crime.

I hope Trump gives them the middle finger in his booking photo. Ala Johnny Cash.
At this point it will only help make him Legender.

richwicks says

There's a guy that hangs out in front of the store I go to that is homeless, he's a aggressive, abusive, black man who has repeatedly threatened me and other people.

Not a joke, my BIL would just deck bums that came up to him in Chicago if they were harassing and threatening him.

At the end of the day these are mentally ill people and the cops aren't going to care or do anything about it. If anything they appreciate it if you put them to sleep and it's one less call they have to deal with about the guy fucking with people. Just make sure not to kill him is the only caveat, which is unpredictable depending how they fall unless you grab the shirt during the punch. Not advice, but if it is constant it's an option.

At some point with defund the police shit, citizens just need to take things into their own hands. Worst case is a misdemeanor battery charge. Basically a traffic ticket. Just will show up on your record and depending on employer that might impact that. I don't think a cop would charge you though. They likely have met the guy multiple times if it's a constant barrage every time you go to the store.

https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/hows-that-war-going/

This degenerate wickedness has been escalating since one Donald Trump stepped onstage years ago. The “Joe Biden” regime affects to have trapped him finally in the lair of Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg. Now the game gets interesting. Since the charges are the sheerest vapor, the actual aim of this prosecution, as Tom Luongo and Martin Armstrong point out, is to goad Mr. Trump into a civil contempt citation that will allow the New York authorities to lock him up. The judge in the case will impose a gag order on Mr. Trump speaking out about the proceedings against him, and when he opens his yap — as he is certain to do — they’ll throw a net around him and drag him off to the hoosegow, and try to keep him there indefinitely, as they kept the Jan 6 suspects in the DC jail. That is, if the Bragg operation in New York City can extract the former president from the state of Florida, which may not be so easy, now that Governor DeSantis has indicated a disinclination to allow it.

As to the case itself, a judge with any self-respect would toss it in a pre-trial hearing like a six-day-dead carp at the slightest prompting by a defense attorney — based, as it is, on multiple specious novelties of criminal law, not to mention being well beyond the statute of limitations. If it can actually get to trial, the prosecution will be a jurisprudential joke for the ages. If they get a Big Apple jury to go along with the joke, it will be short-listed through the appeals process clean up to the Supreme Court in a New York minute.

And if that whole thing falls apart like the janky jenga tower it is, there are two other cases in the wings — the bullshit case in Fulton County, Georgia, where the grand jury process was already compromised by a jury fore-person, self-identified as a “witch,” shooting her mouth off to the press; and the operation out of the DC Federal District run by one Special Counsel Jack Smith in the Mar-a-Lago classified papers matter — another loser case, considering all the other high officials currently entangled in similar complaints, as yet unmolested by any official charges.

Sound like a plan? Yes, it sounds like a plan to foment a civil war. Especially considering all the other crap our country is being subjected to by a bureaucracy-gone-wild, the regime fronting for it, and its legions of mentally ill useful idiots disturbing the peace all over the land. Probably more than half of the people in our country realize that the legal system has been hijacked by the same rogues who infiltrated social media and the state boards of election. They are getting good and goddam sick of it, along with all the mental twerkery around transgenderism, race hustling, climate change, and Ukraine. I’m sure it means we’re in for a thrilling spring and summer.

richwicks says

Organized crime is probably better than disorganized crime.

My father always credited Organized Crime "The Mafia" for keeping the communist at bay in the early Cold War.
If you think about it, Bolshevism and Marxists clash with Mafia objectives. Mafia needs a thriving economy for their extortion rackets to work. Marxists want to destroy the businesses that the Mafia preys on. That protection money also kept the Commies at bay, as well as Criminals.

rocketjoe79 says

Now talk of a gag order from the Judge. Does this mean Trump can't Campaign?

AFAIK, gag orders are more specific than just "shut up and don't talk at all".

rocketjoe79 says

"Does this mean Trump can't Campaign?? Sounds like the outcome the dems wanted. Silence Trump."

The prevailing wisdom here is that you cannot have one state, in this case New York, interfere with the presidential election of the United States.

The_Deplorable

Massive crowds line the streets as Trump drives to PBI for his flight to NY

WookieMan says

At the end of the day these are mentally ill people and the cops aren't going to care or do anything about it. If anything they appreciate it if you put them to sleep and it's one less call they have to deal with about the guy fucking with people. Just make sure not to kill him is the only caveat, which is unpredictable depending how they fall unless you grab the shirt during the punch. Not advice, but if it is constant it's an option.

I can handle myself pretty well by just talking and I don't tend to get riled easily, and I can't feel an insult from somebody I don't respect or know. I doubt there will ever be an altercation.

Above people are discussing crime in Japan.
I have been to Japan twice; the second time was an extensive stay and I visited many parts of the country.
An interesting thing is the signs in places which prohibit gangsters; they say "no tattoos allowed."
This weeds out the obvious Yakuza types.
If there is crime in Japan, I don't know where you would find it.
An interesting cultural feature in Japan is someone won't do something which would "dishonor my ancestors."
This is a quaint concept but I heard it, and it's probably bullshit but some people will adhere to it.
I had a nice time in Japan and it's interesting there; although it's crowded and hectic in Tokyo, in the other areas it's pretty peaceful outside of cities of course.
It was like a time machine in 1988; I visited a small island where the workers seemed to be old ladies; they were growing abalone and pearls and other stuff.

https://sashastone.substack.com/p/open-thread-the-madness-of-indecency/comments

It’s hard to believe that we’re living through this moment in history, made worse by the angry mobs showing up in New York to taunt and attempt to coax Trump supporters into violence, just so that they can prove all of their madness has been justified. How petty and gross they are, especially in the nonstop television coverage for ratings.

The Democrats have manufactured their own crisis for seven years and they’re dragging the country through pain and polarization just to stay in power. They need Trump to scare people to the polls. But how long can that last? Sooner or later, it’s all going to collapse. At least we have something to look forward to.

I miss the Left I used to know. I miss when they were decent and sensible people instead of a fanatic cult throwing fits when they don’t get their way. They are the ones who can’t control their rage and anger. They have lost their minds and lost their way.

This day in history will always be a reminder of what happened to them. This indictment shows the world who THEY are - with their ongoing show trials and their mass hysteria.

I will do everything I can to ensure their loss in 2024.

https://slaynews.com/news/americans-more-likely-vote-trump-post-indictment-poll/

Americans Now More Likely to Vote for Trump, Post-Indictment Poll Shows

I'm old enough to remember the 60's.
Young people weren't such assholes then.
They didn't want to be sent to Vietnam and didn't like to get busted for weed; but they were not welfare losers, trans drag queens bothering children.
The losers today are crazy.
Edit: They were largely self-sufficient, nobody had a credit card, they didn't have communist views, nobody expected to have loans forgiven etc.

The_Deplorable says

rocketjoe79 says

"Does this mean Trump can't Campaign?? Sounds like the outcome the dems wanted. Silence Trump."

The prevailing wisdom here is that you cannot have one state, in this case New York, interfere with the presidential election of the United States.

The_Deplorable

I'll play a devil's advocate here: what is this "cannot"
based upon? A law? A tradition? An opinion?

This guy was against investigating a presidential candidate until he was for it (albeit the candidate is different this time):

clambo says

I'm old enough to remember the 60's.
Young people weren't such assholes then.
They didn't want to be sent to Vietnam and didn't like to get busted for weed; but they were not welfare losers, trans drag queens bothering children.
The losers today are crazy.

It's a direct result of having a young dumbass worshipping culture.

"Oh the youth like this, and the youth want that."

Fuck the youth, they're literally the group in society with the least amount of experience at anything, from a particular skill or career to life in general.

And no, it's not because I'm in my 40s. I felt this way back when I was young.

The youth didn't get screwed because they weren't listened to, they got screwed because older people gave them more of a voice and gave them more weight when the old went to make decisions.

"You're 20, newb roookie, shut the fuck up"

AmericanKulak says

clambo says

I'm old enough to remember the 60's.
Young people weren't such assholes then.
They didn't want to be sent to Vietnam and didn't like to get busted for weed; but they were not welfare losers, trans drag queens bothering children.
The losers today are crazy.

It's a direct result of having a young dumbass worshipping culture.

"Oh the youth like this, and the youth want that."

Fuck the youth, they're literally the group in society with the least amount of experience at anything, from a particular skill or career to life in general.

And no, it's not because I'm in my 40s. I felt this way back when I was young.

The youth didn't get screwed because they weren't listened to, they got screwed because older people gave them more of a voice and gave them more weight when the old went to make decisions.

"You're 20, newb roookie, s...

Somehow I think you are not in favor of lowering the voting age....

RWSGFY says

Somehow I think you are not in favor of lowering the voting age....

We should replace the voting age with "Makes over Poverty Line income, Over 65, owns capital or real estate over $100k, or retired or current serviceman"

People who don't pay for dinner or at least have a direct role in keeping the restuarant going, shouldn't have a voice in deciding the restaurant.

Also, it stops the Upper Class from using the Lower Class to break the Middle Class, since the Lumpenproles, Students, and marginally employed weedheads won't have a vote.

AmericanKulak says

RWSGFY says

Somehow I think you are not in favor of lowering the voting age....

We should replace the voting age with "Makes over Poverty Line income, Over 65, owns capital or real estate over $100k, or retired or current serviceman"

People who don't pay for dinner or at least have a direct role in keeping the restuarant going, shouldn't have a voice in deciding the restaurant.

Also, it stops the Upper Class from using the Lower Class to break the Middle Class, since the Lumpenproles, Students, and marginally employed weedheads won't have a vote.

POLL TAX!!! POLL TAX!!!!!

RWSGFY says

POLL TAX!!! POLL TAX!!!!!

Poll taxes are a wonderful idea. Too bad the Leftoid 60s court shut it down.

"Being a world citizen is so important, I want what I'm entitled to!"
"Great, pay $20 for a voter card and vote as you like"
"Waaah! Too much! I'll stay home!"

Patrick says

Yep, this is how it works. But let's not pretend Donald didn't try to do the same to Potato, m'kay? I mean the whole covfefe he was impeached for was for the attempt to investigate his front-running opponent before the election. Just like we now say this current thing is BS, so the Demonrats were saying that thing was BS then. And, btw, pointing at the other side's hypocrisy never works as people think it would.

Hugh_Mongous says

the whole covfefe he was impeached for was for the attempt to investigate his front-running opponent before the election

Biden actually did commit serious crimes though, like abusing his office to threaten withholding US loan guarantees when the corrupt Ukrainian company his corrupt son was getting paid $50,000/month to do nothing for was being investigated:

https://www.libertynation.com/that-ukraine-prosecutor-biden-had-fired-it-seems-trump-was-right/

For those who don’t recall the details, the story began in 2014 when then-Vice President Biden paid an official visit to Ukraine. The VP was described as “the public face of the [Obama] administration’s handling of Ukraine,” according to a Senate report into potential corruption involving Hunter Biden and Ukrainian energy company Burisma.

Just about three weeks after Joe Biden’s visit, his son took a $50,000-a-month position on Burisma’s board of directors. This, even though British officials only two weeks earlier had seized $23 million from the U.K. bank account of Burisma’s owner, Ukrainian oligarch Mykola Zlochevsky, as part of an ongoing corruption investigation. Zlochevsky and Burisma were also being investigated by Shokin as late as March 2016, until Biden threatened to freeze $1 billion in loan guarantees unless the prosecutor was removed.

A couple of years later, presumably when he thought it no longer mattered, Biden openly bragged about getting Shokin fired. During a 2018 event sponsored by the Council on Foreign Relations, the former VP recounted how he threatened the Ukrainians:

“I said, you’re not getting the billion. I’m going to be leaving here in, I think it was about six hours. I looked at them and said: I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money. Well, son of a b—ch, he got fired.”

AmericanKulak says

RWSGFY says

Somehow I think you are not in favor of lowering the voting age....

We should replace the voting age with "Makes over Poverty Line income, Over 65, owns capital or real estate over $100k, or retired or current serviceman"

People who don't pay for dinner or at least have a direct role in keeping the restuarant going, shouldn't have a voice in deciding the restaurant.

Also, it stops the Upper Class from using the Lower Class to break the Middle Class, since the Lumpenproles, Students, and marginally employed weedheads won't have a vote.

It's simple and I've mentioned it before. Voting is weighted based on your income taxes that you put back into the system. You pay $0 you get 1 vote. You pay $10 you get 2. You pay $100 you get three. On and on. So the middle class person doing that actual fucking work paying $20-30k/yr in taxes gets 5 votes. The rich fuck using tax loopholes might only get 1 vote because they might have been negative in a year. Or they might get 7-8 if they're actually paying taxes.

Everyone can vote. No registration. You only have to have a tax return if you want to vote, which everyone has to or the IRS comes after you. You're given you allotment and you vote. If I vote for Trump i get 5 votes counted towards that. The homeless person just gets one. The rich guy skirting the taxes might only get one. It levels the playing field.