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Trump INDICTED by Manhattan Grand Jury


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2023 Mar 30, 2:35pm   21,913 views  197 comments

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Trump indicted.



Link to NYT Article:
https://archive.is/IsPTb


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126   Tenpoundbass   2023 Apr 5, 6:32am  

WookieMan says

It's simple and I've mentioned it before. Voting is weighted based on your income taxes that you put back into the system. You pay $0 you get 1 vote. You pay $10 you get 2. You pay $100 you get three. On and on.


So instead of elections being decided by large minority populations in big cities. You want George Soros and Bill Gates to decide our elections?

There's a better way, you can only vote if you drag your sorry ass to the polls, and you vote on paper.
127   richwicks   2023 Apr 5, 6:37am  

AmericanKulak says

Poll taxes are a wonderful idea. Too bad the Leftoid 60s court shut it down.


As long as the poll tax is limited to a reasonable amount of money. I've heard it was as high as several hundred dollars in the 1960s in some locations.

If it was $5, that would limit the amount of vote theft and it would reduce fraud, because that money WOULD be counted. Ballots, not so much.
128   richwicks   2023 Apr 5, 6:40am  

Tenpoundbass says

So instead of elections being decided by large minority populations in big cities. You want George Soros and Bill Gates to decide our elections?


The only people that are allowed to even run are already controlled. I doubt wealthy people even bother to vote. You think Soros or Gates waste their time doing this? They already purchased both politicians.
129   WookieMan   2023 Apr 5, 7:25am  

Tenpoundbass says

WookieMan says


It's simple and I've mentioned it before. Voting is weighted based on your income taxes that you put back into the system. You pay $0 you get 1 vote. You pay $10 you get 2. You pay $100 you get three. On and on.


So instead of elections being decided by large minority populations in big cities. You want George Soros and Bill Gates to decide our elections?

There's a better way, you can only vote if you drag your sorry ass to the polls, and you vote on paper.

You think those guys are paying taxes? Lol. Hells no. And guess what, that's only 2 people getting say 12 votes if they even pay anything. The middle class would decide elections. The poor and rich would get less votes in this scenario in most cases. Which is the way it should be.
130   RayAmerica   2023 Apr 5, 7:31am  

After stealing the election in 2020 (and 2022), do you honestly think that there is even a remote chance that they are going to somehow allow Trump to be elected in '24? The elite that are pulling all the levers of power will NEVER allow that to happen.

There is only one way, and that is if Trump caves in and makes a deal with them. Reagan did it when he selected the internationalist, New World Order George H. W. Bush as VP, and then obediently loaded up his administration with Trilateralists and CFR members.
131   richwicks   2023 Apr 5, 7:36am  

RayAmerica says

After stealing the election in 2020 (and 2022), do you honestly think that there is even a remote chance that they are going to somehow allow Trump to be elected in '24? The elite that are pulling all the levers of power will NEVER allow that to happen.

There is only one way, and that is if Trump caves in and makes a deal with them. Reagan did it when he selected the internationalist, New World Order George H. W. Bush as VP, and then obediently loaded up his administration with Trilateralists and CFR members.


Yep, Trump has done his job. He's exposed all the corruption, all you need to do is look to see it.

Now, will we do anything about it? If not, we deserve what we get.
132   clambo   2023 Apr 5, 8:08am  

Voting should be in person, on paper, with secure ID, natural born citizens, nobody who has illegal alien parents, nobody who is on welfare or using government benefits under age 62.
133   richwicks   2023 Apr 5, 8:09am  

clambo says

Voting should be in person, on paper, with secure ID, natural born citizens, nobody who has illegal alien parents, nobody who is on welfare or using government benefits under age 62.


Naturalized citizens should absolutely be able to vote. Most of them are more American than Americans are. Meet a few, they believe in this country.
135   HeadSet   2023 Apr 5, 8:30am  

THE FIX IS IN. They timed the rotation to get this blatantly antiTrump judge:


136   RWSGFY   2023 Apr 5, 9:08am  

Patrick says


Hugh_Mongous says


the whole covfefe he was impeached for was for the attempt to investigate his front-running opponent before the election


Biden actually did commit serious crimes though, like abusing his office to threaten withholding US loan guarantees



You think it's serious, they think it's not. Same with this current Trump thing.

And the previous Trump thing was EXACTLY the same as that Biden thing - threatening to withhold the Congress-approved assistance. See how things flip from nothingburger to crime of the century depending on whose guy we're talking about?

Same with investigating a candidate: it's taboo this year because our guy is the challenger but it was perfectly ok when our guy was the incumbent. And vice versa. Politics do this to people.
137   HeadSet   2023 Apr 5, 9:29am  

RWSGFY says

And the previous Trump thing was EXACTLY the same as that Biden thing - threatening to withhold the Congress-approved assistance.

When did Trump threaten to withhold Congress-approved assistance?
143   Patrick   2023 Apr 5, 11:01am  




Lol, even Bolton, who hates Trump.
147   Ceffer   2023 Apr 5, 11:06am  

The satisfying Shadenfreude of seeing Trump arrested and hauled before a kangaroo court is being countered by the paranoia that when Trump wins, they all have their informal immunities dropped by default and new precedence. That's the reason even his 'enemies' and counter stooges don't want this.
148   richwicks   2023 Apr 5, 11:15am  

RWSGFY says

Same with investigating a candidate: it's taboo this year because our guy is the challenger but it was perfectly ok when our guy was the incumbent. And vice versa. Politics do this to people.


No, this is simply corruption.

Dual standards are corruption, nothing more.

If Trump is guilty of a crime, prosecute him. If Hillary Clinton is guilty of a crime prosecute her. Same for Joe Biden, Hunter Biden, Mitt Romney, Barack Obama, John McCain, George W. Bush, John Kerry, Al Gore, etc.

If they engage in selective prosecution, it's simply corruption.
149   richwicks   2023 Apr 5, 11:18am  

Patrick says




Lol, even Bolton, who hates Trump.


If we had a rule of law, Bolton would be executed. The fact that Trump has been brought up on desperate bullshit charges, means that Bolton can be drawn up on real charges - because that fucker should be executed. That fucker produced propaganda that murdered 100's of thousands of people, and we hung assholes that did this in 1946 Germany.

He should be executed.
150   richwicks   2023 Apr 5, 11:21am  

Ceffer says

The satisfying Shadenfreude of seeing Trump arrested and hauled before a kangaroo court is being countered by the paranoia that when Trump wins, they all have their informal immunities dropped by default and new precedence. That's the reason even his 'enemies' and counter stooges don't want this.


I've hear this hypothesis as well.

I don't believe it. Hypocrisy has no bounds. If our legal system was fair, Biden (both of them) would be prosecuted, and Clinton, and Obama, and Bush - that's not going to happen.
152   AmericanKulak   2023 Apr 5, 4:50pm  

HeadSet says

THE FIX IS IN. They timed the rotation to get this blatantly antiTrump judge:

His daughter is a millie DC stooge who works for lobbyist PR firms, as well as Kamala and Bernie's campaigns.
153   HeadSet   2023 Apr 5, 5:14pm  

Looks like Stormy has got to pay even more Trump legal bills:

In all, Daniels has been ordered to pay more than $600,000 in Trump’s legal fees, tweeted Harmeet Dillon, one of his attorneys in the case.
That includes some $300,000 in attorney's fees that Daniels previously was ordered to pay. After a federal appeals court upheld that award last year


(Cue "Gangsta's Paradise" instrumental as Trump gets a hooker to pay HIM!)

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/stormy-daniels-must-pay-122-000-in-trump-legal-bills/ar-AA19u1g1?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=27e921923d0848fbad00b4c4064d84e2&ei=20
154   RayAmerica   2023 Apr 5, 8:07pm  

President of El Salvador on Charges Against President Trump: ‘The United States’ Ability to Use “Democracy” as Foreign Policy Is Gone’
https://thelibertydaily.com/president-of-el-salvador-on-charges-against-president-trump-the-united-states-ability-to-use-democracy-as-foreign-policy-is-gone/
155   richwicks   2023 Apr 5, 8:34pm  

HeadSet says

Looks like Stormy has got to pay even more Trump legal bills:

In all, Daniels has been ordered to pay more than $600,000 in Trump’s legal fees, tweeted Harmeet Dillon, one of his attorneys in the case.
That includes some $300,000 in attorney's fees that Daniels previously was ordered to pay. After a federal appeals court upheld that award last year


(Cue "Gangsta's Paradise" instrumental as Trump gets a hooker to pay HIM!)

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/stormy-daniels-must-pay-122-000-in-trump-legal-bills/ar-AA19u1g1?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=27e921923d0848fbad00b4c4064d84e2&ei=20


What does it matter if Trump fucked Stormy Daniels or whatever her real name is?

I didn't vote for Jesus, I voted against a Neocunt that voted for the Iraq war. I don't care a bit about his moral dalliance, I only care what he does. He didn't drag us into a new fucking war, that's an improvement.
156   richwicks   2023 Apr 5, 8:39pm  

RayAmerica says


President of El Salvador on Charges Against President Trump: ‘The United States’ Ability to Use “Democracy” as Foreign Policy Is Gone’
https://thelibertydaily.com/president-of-el-salvador-on-charges-against-president-trump-the-united-states-ability-to-use-democracy-as-foreign-policy-is-gone/


It's been gone for 30 years. Our government is criminal. Remember this?


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That horrible asshole was just lying about everything she stated, She was the daughter of the Kuwaiti ambassador. There is ZERO possibility that our intelligence community didn't know who she was, or that she was lying.

Our government promoted propaganda to start a war, this piglet was just a tool for it, and it's a pig now.

That was 30 years ago, and our government has not reformed, they have quadrupled down.
157   AmericanKulak   2023 Apr 5, 9:56pm  

HeadSet says

(Cue "Gangsta's Paradise" instrumental as Trump gets a hooker to pay HIM!)

President Dolemite!
160   mell   2023 Apr 6, 10:39am  

richwicks says

RayAmerica says



President of El Salvador on Charges Against President Trump: ‘The United States’ Ability to Use “Democracy” as Foreign Policy Is Gone’
https://thelibertydaily.com/president-of-el-salvador-on-charges-against-president-trump-the-united-states-ability-to-use-democracy-as-foreign-policy-is-gone/


It's been gone for 30 years. Our government is criminal. Remember this?


original link

That horrible asshole was just lying about everything she stated...

Agreed. That was one of the low points back then, before the quadruple. lol
161   richwicks   2023 Apr 6, 12:45pm  

mell says


Agreed. That was one of the low points back then, before the quadruple. lol


We've had many low points, but in comparison to what is happening now, having the asshole slagheap of the daughter of the Kuwaiti ambassador lie to produce propaganda to start a war is now a step up. That's how fucking bad we've gotten. That cunt asshole is a high point now.

Any morality or righteousness in our government is now gone. It's entirely criminal now. We found out that Nayirah al-Ṣabaḥ was the ambassador's daughter because we still had reporters that spoke it, 5 years after the fact. Do we have that now? Our entire "news" system is now entirely propaganda, and we have a blatant, obvious two tiered justice system. We're in a tyranny now.

Seymour Hersh posted to Substack on the Nordstream bombing. You know why? Because he knew NO "mainstream news" would report it. It's the most obvious fucking thing in the world, and our "news" won't report on it. "Russia did it".


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I don't know if they think we're this stupid, or if they are legitimately this stupid. Hard to imagine our leaders expect us to swallow this bullshit. Are they incredibly stupid, or do they just think we are? We are at the point where people make careers or side hustles making fun of government propaganda. That's all Jimmy Dore does now.
162   HeadSet   2023 Apr 6, 7:31pm  

richwicks says

I don't know if they think we're this stupid, or if they are legitimately this stupid.

Nope, they KNOW that the public is that stupid. No matter how many times someone like Shiff is caught in a lie, about half the public eagerly awaits to believe his next lie.
164   Patrick   2023 Apr 6, 8:56pm  

https://slaynews.com/news/judge-overseeing-da-braggs-anti-trump-case-is-a-biden-donor/


Judge Overseeing DA Bragg’s Anti-Trump Case Is a Biden Donor
165   Patrick   2023 Apr 6, 9:21pm  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/double-intent-wednesday-april-5-2023?publication_id=463409&post_id=112852269&isFreemail=true


Judge Merchan suggested but did not order President Trump to stop tweeting or talking about the case. The judge set the next court hearing in the case for December, because he’s so very busy with other, more important cases or something. That means the circus resumes right before the primaries begin. ...

🔥 Bragg’s indictment has 34 counts of the same exact “crime,” alleging 34 separate violations of the exact same New York Penal Code §175.10, for “falsifying business records in the first degree.” All 34 counts are based on one single transaction, the one single payment of $130K to Stormy Daniels. Bragg boosted the charges to a whopping 34 by counting every microscopic stage of the transaction as a separate crime. ...

I could not find a single case in New York’s legal history where a defendant was charged separately for all the parts of the same transaction under § 175.10.

To pump the mis-accounting charge up to a felony, Bragg also must prove that Trump’s INTENT in paying Cohen’s legal retainer was not just to cover up his sordid relationship with the sex worker, but to cover up another CRIME, which presumably would be the campaign finance violation.

But so far, DA Bragg has refused to identify what the other crime is, even when directly asked by reporters. It’s goofy, and that’s a tell. ...

Penal Code § 175.10 is one sentence long, and itself requires proof of a lesser crime, misdemeanor falsifying business records, under the immediately previous statute, § 175.05. That statute describes the crime:




So, Bragg must prove two “elements”: (1) that Trump had an “intent to defraud” somebody when the accountant miscoded the expenses, and (2) Trump personally directed the false entry to be made in the “business records.”

The whole case revolves around Trump’s bookkeeper entering Cohen’s invoices into the accounting system and calling them “legal expenses” instead of … what? Buying story rights? Donations to Trump’s campaign? Bragg doesn’t say what they should’ve been called instead.

What would YOU call payments to your lawyer?

Under the New York law, to qualify as a crime, the false record can’t be just any old business record. It has to be something that would cause other people to be defrauded, like investors, or an insurance company. ...

As far as I can tell, Trump’s legal expense entries didn’t create any financial advantage for the “enterprise,” and nobody depended on them that was or could have been defrauded. So it’s not clear to me that the Cohen invoices and payments were the type of business records that could be subject to the statute.

🔥 But Bragg’s biggest problem is proving intent. He doesn’t just have to prove intent, he must prove TWO separate intents: an “intent to defraud” related to the Cohen payments, PLUS an intent to cover up a second crime, the campaign finance violation. That’s the only way Bragg can reach a felony level of “falsification.”

Not only that, but Bragg must prove both those intents “beyond a reasonable doubt” — the highest standard of proof under the law. OJ Simpson walked because they couldn’t prove murder beyond a reasonable doubt. “If the glove don’t fit, you must acquit.”

In other words, it doesn’t matter whether the coding for “legal fees” was actually incorrect, or whether a campaign reporting violation actually occurred. Bragg has to prove that Trump — in his own mind — both intended to deceive people to get a financial advantage, and also intended avoid reporting legitimate campaign expenses in a criminal way.

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