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Did someone post that video here? Sox game in Boston, no one waiting in line at the Bud Light stands. If even the big cities aren't woke enough, they're fucked.

NuttBoxer says

Did someone post that video here? Sox game in Boston, no one waiting in line at the Bud Light stands. If even the big cities aren't woke enough, they're fucked.

I can:


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Sales are one thing. Revenue is another. Wisconsin is not a Bud state. Pabst and Spotted Cow are the beers. Other Milwaukee beers as well. So the sales drop if you know my region on the map is South of I-80. Basically Midwest rednecks not buying it, which is not a massive revenue number given the choices of beer. If Chicagoans are buying it at $6/beer and south of I-80 stops buying it at $3 with a smaller population it doesn't make that big of a difference.

I'll state again, not defending the marketing. It's gross as fuck, but I think this is being overplayed by people that want to short the stock. Which is their right, I just don't think the information put out there is accurate is all. Sure distributers have stats, but until Bud itself comes out with quarterly numbers no one knows. This is all made up as a regional distributor in IL is not communicating with WI distributors. They don't even compete with each other.

Also if a beer booth at a baseball game is empty, it's probably because the stadium is. Attendance for baseball has been declining and that will probably continue. No one wants to go to cities. https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/mlb-attendance-dipped-significantly-from-pre-pandemic-numbers/

All I'm saying is there are more variables to this than the advertising campaign. Time of year. Decline is sports attendance. And frankly cost. Sales will go down when you charge $4-5 for a Bud Light at the corner bar. And $9-12 at a sporting event. If you drink 1-2 going out and cut it down to 1 that's a 50% decline. The economy isn't going crazy right now. Prices are high. Cutting back on beer is an easy way to save money and isn't necessary. Lots of factors.

clambo says

I saw a YouTube and the people called Bud Light "tranny fluid".

they are not wrong

Tenpoundbass says

I'm not a fan of sweet dark beer

I am.

Can't remember the exact taste bur it was good.

WookieMan says

All I'm saying is there are more variables to this than the advertising campaign. Time of year. Decline is sports attendance. And frankly cost. Sales will go down when you charge $4-5 for a Bud Light at the corner bar. And $9-12 at a sporting event. If you drink 1-2 going out and cut it down to 1 that's a 50% decline. The economy isn't going crazy right now. Prices are high. Cutting back on beer is an easy way to save money and isn't necessary. Lots of factors.

Except that the sales of competitor's beer have gone way up. This is not an example of beer sales falling off in general.

WookieMan says

All I'm saying is there are more variables to this than the advertising campaign.

Yeah, bullshit. The stock wasn't downgraded until after the marketing. The sales didn't drop until after the marketing. Videos and personal experiences of people avoiding it like the plague didn't start until after the marketing.

And yeah, if the stock has been downgraded, and the company has reshuffled c-level positions, you're just mincing words. But if you need that to understand, fine. It's the sales and the revenue.

HeadSet says

Except that the sales of competitor's beer have gone way up. This is not an example of beer sales falling off in general.

Yet to see proof of that. I don't like Bud Light or Budweiser. I'm neutral in this. I don't care. I just don't think people saying they boycotted something made a difference. The advertising was a dumb ass move. There is a supposed shock to the system that none of us can verify is true.

I'll say it again, beer sales drop off this time of year with lent and Easter. Talk to me in August about this and change my mind. Or until a full quarter goes by and they have to report. Until then none of this is facts about the situation. I know InBev owns them, but what's the outcome of this? Un-employ thousands of Americans? That's a real victory.

They fucked up big time. That's not the conversation. WHAT is the actual revenue loss? No one here knows and won't until July/August. I think a lot of you guys don't understand the average guy that goes out for a couple beers outside of coastal areas. You're blinded by your bias. Californians weren't drinking Bud Light anyway.

Sales are down because people are going out less. Someone show me a link where Miller sales are up. Also account for there just being more beers. Bud is going to lose market share regardless. I can promise you the people boycotting Bud weren't Bud drinkers at all. Seasonal matters and so do headlines. My wife is in that industry and she makes nothing from January to June. We're seeing a hyperbolized seasonal reaction due to a piss poor marketing campaign. They lost money for sure, but I don't think it's as dramatic as people think.

WookieMan says

Yet to see proof of that.

Have you looked for it? I haven't, but still I saw it. I guess that's because I use real news sites...

NuttBoxer says

WookieMan says

Yet to see proof of that.

Have you looked for it? I haven't, but still I saw it. I guess that's because I use real news sites...

What have you seen? Everything in this thread is just meme type bull shit. No one has actual financials from Bud. Yes, they fired everyone involved basically which I'd agree with. All I'm saying is the doom and gloom is more about stock price and not reality. Yes, Q2 they'll make less money. We can talk when the summer numbers come in for Q3.

The fact is this is message board/forum fodder. Your average American doesn't even know what happened. They're busy drinking and doing drugs. You think 50% of Americans read or watch anything news related? MSM didn't even report on it. People that didn't drink Bud Light are boycotting something they don't drink. That's literally what this is.

Trannies are mentally disabled people and don't belong on anything. But it's not going to be the downfall of Bud Light. I'm not defending anything, but long term most people "thinking" their boycott did something will be proven wrong.

WookieMan says

What have you seen? Everything in this thread is just meme type bull shit. No one has actual financials from Bud. Yes, they fired everyone involved basically which I'd agree with. All I'm saying is the doom and gloom is more about stock price and not reality. Yes, Q2 they'll make less money. We can talk when the summer numbers come in for Q3.

The fact is this is message board/forum fodder. Your average American doesn't even know what happened. They're busy drinking and doing drugs. You think 50% of Americans read or watch anything news related? MSM didn't even report on it. People that didn't drink Bud Light are boycotting something they don't drink. That's literally what this is.

Trannies are mentally disabled people and don't belong on anything. But it's not going to be the downfall of Bud Light. I'm not defending anything, but long term most people "thinking" their boycott did something will be proven wrong.

It seems the effects are quite pronounced, and there will be revenue shortfall beyond seasonal. However I agree with the sentiment that it may not be its demise, I remember when people were saying this about Nike stock when they turned ultra woke and dipped, and then it made new highs later.

mell says

It seems the effects are quite pronounced, and there will be revenue shortfall beyond seasonal. However I agree with the sentiment that it may not be its demise, I remember when people were saying this about Nike stock when they turned ultra woke and dipped, and then it made new highs later.

It's not even remotely like that either though. This was a one off thing. They fired them all. As a beer drinker (that doesn't drink Bud) they'll be fine. As gay as the tranny thing was, it's not going to stop people rolling into a bar buying Bud Light. Your grunt laborer doesn't watch news or go to forums where this shit is talked about.

And again, unless someone here knows their financials, everyone is talking out their ass including me. No pundit or news source actually knows. Time will tell the truth. I just believe I'm more likely to be right. We're talking taking down Coke or Pepsi at this level. Ain't happening. Hasn't for 100 years for similar brands in beverage. I don't drink it, but Bud Light ain't going anywhere.

Seen in Winn Dixie: BOGO $16.19 for a case of 15 bottles of Tranny Fluid. 53 cents a bottle, retail.

The real issue is the distributors are getting creamed, stores aren't replenishing but the trucks still have to do the route, and Bud Light will have to lick that cost off a hairy Drag Queen's ass.

InBev downgraded to "Hold" from "Buy.
https://nypost.com/2023/05/10/anheuser-busch-stock-downgraded-over-bud-light-crisis/

WookieMan says

Yet to see proof of that. I don't like Bud Light or Budweiser. I'm neutral in this. I don't care. I just don't think people saying they boycotted something made a difference. The advertising was a dumb ass move. There is a supposed shock to the system that none of us can verify is true.

It's all anecdotal of course, but I think there might be actual pushback this time, because Budweiser really is a "redneck beer", and they are NOT on board the tranny train.

I think it will be forgotten. I think Balenciaga has been forgotten, and Gillette. It's a shockvertising campaign, and they are getting a TON of free press for it and you can't trust the press. They'll make a controversy out of anything, except an actual controversy.

Gilette was not forgotten; they never recovered market share or the price premium they used to demand. In 2021 about $8B in losses had to be written off.
Competitors swooped in like Schtick, who made their blades interchangable with the Gilette Mach 3s people already had.

Also, behavior was greatly changed, Gilette never ran another woke ad after their pummeling.

Balenciaga is for the snooty kazooty crowd who is mostly woke anyway.

The amazing thing about spontaneous Conservative boycotts is how well they do despite near total opposition and negative coverage and demoralization campaigns against the Boycott from the Media.

This Bud Light thing is massive. It's spilling into their other brands like Michelob and Modelo.

AmericanKulak says

Gilette was not forgotten; they never recovered market share or the price premium they used to demand. Then competitors swooped in an Schtick made their blades interchangable with the Gilette Mach 3s people already had.

Balenciaga is for the snooty kazooty crowd who is mostly woke anyway.

I have a suggestion - just stop buying from nationwide brands. They're all going to do this shit.

richwicks says

I have a suggestion - just stop buying from nationwide brands. They're all going to do this shit.

Abandon no battlefield, allow no default victory. Make them at least have to punch in the clock. Sure, cultivate local, but never give them a no show victory.

AmericanKulak says

richwicks says

I have a suggestion - just stop buying from nationwide brands. They're all going to do this shit.

Abandon no battlefield, allow no default victory. Make them at least have to punch in the clock. Sure, cultivate local, but never give them a no show victory.

This is all ESG shit. If companies don't play along, their lines of credit are cut. I don't think this crap is going to go on too long, all this stuff is optional and it's not like generic or small companies even advertise.

I find almost anything that is NOT advertised stands on the product alone, and it's almost always better, a sometimes in the same price range. I try to avoid anything that is advertised.

WookieMan says

What have you seen? Everything in this thread is just meme type bull shit. No one has actual financials from Bud. Yes, they fired everyone involved basically which I'd agree with. All I'm saying is the doom and gloom is more about stock price and not reality.

Why would Bud have financials on other companies profits? Do you remember that's what you specifically called out as unproven?

No one was fired.

This took five seconds, but I actually care about the truth, not pushing my opinion. Doubt you'll read it as the search would have been just as easy for you:
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/bud-light-sales-plunged-astonishing-224500212.html

WookieMan says

Your average American doesn't even know what happened.

Read my story in the other thread. My wife's family are all blue collar Mexican's, and they pretty much all know what happened.

richwicks says

I think Balenciaga has been forgotten, and Gillette.

I don't forgot pedophilia, I make lists.

NuttBoxer says

Why would Bud have financials on other companies profits? Do you remember that's what you specifically called out as unproven?

No one was fired.

No shit Sherlock. https://www.wsaz.com/2023/04/22/bud-light-executive-takes-leave-after-boycott-calls-reports-say/

They're not going to outright fire them. Run a business man. Bud would get sued to the moon. They asked them to step aside, they pay them and at some point they'll leave while giving them time to find a job. They already pissed off enough people now they're doing damage control to not piss off the Tranny's. This is business 101. Damage control.

Fact is they're fired and you know I'm right.

Mexicans don't drink Bud Light either. So I find your story to be hyperbolic if not a lie. Chicagoland has a massive hispanic population. We're friends, close friends with 30+ Mexicans and Puerto Ricans. They don't drink Bud Light and wouldn't mistakenly buy Bud Light. So I call bull shit on that. And I'm not stereotyping beer with race, but hispanics simply don't drink Bud Light. I've never seen it. They don't even serve it at Mexican and hispanic restaurants in this region. If they do in CA then that doesn't surprise me with all the other dip shit stuff going on out there.

fuck all the gay/tranny pushing companies. sold their souls to the devil.

I haven't forgotten Gillette, I'll pluck my follicles with tweezers before I'll buy their razors.
I buy Schlick when I buy razors.

I use the straight razor(not sure if that's the correct term) from Viking. American company, American metal.

@WookieMan So now that the thread contains your requested data, and is no longer just opinionated fluff(paraphrasing you), you're reaction is insults, and calling me a liar about a story from my life. Seems opinion is what you wanted all along.

Si sabes tanto de Mexicanos, avisme como viven? Porque yo no mas tengo un esposa que nacio in Tijuana, y familia quien vive ahi todavia. Fue a Mexico mas veces in mi vida que tu, pero aparace no entiendo nada de Mexicanos, y soy un grand mentiroso verdad?

A la verga. Estoy cansada de pendejos quien tiene ganas de tirar mierda, pero no juevos para pensar y investigar como hombres.

No google translate on that, but I guess I'm just some pinche gabacho right? Or maybe you're just full of Bud Light...

For everyone here, regardless of what I think, I've never called anyone's personal story from their life a lie. You all know I won't agree with you, but that's a line I won't cross.

I know we don't have many standards here, we're patnet for fucks sake, but I think we need to draw the line at calling people's lives a lie.

Sometimes people's retort are hyperbolic. Also one persons perception of a situation based on superficial demographics, doesn't line up with the experience with those on the ground. Sometimes peoples fist hand account from on the ground is limited to just the happenings on their street.

The Cuban overtly Liberal assholes I play music with. Exclusively drink Bud Light. The Latin folks(Peruvian or Puerto Rican) that come's to holiday or party functions at our house. Mostly drink Corona, but quite a few bring Bud Light, and make beer runs to bring more. I'll have to wait until our next function to ask a few folks if they still drink it the Tranny Fluid.

NuttBoxer says

For everyone here, regardless of what I think, I've never called anyone's personal story from their life a lie. You all know I won't agree with you, but that's a line I won't cross.

I know we don't have many standards here, we're patnet for fucks sake, but I think we need to draw the line at calling people's lives a lie.

Congrats. You can type Spanish. That means nothing. Mexicans don't drink Bud Light. They don't want to. My point is flying over your head. There's maybe a 5% chance the person, if hispanic, bought Bud Light. Another unicorn in our midst. Or maybe it's a California thing. Between NYC and CA that's ground zero for chopping your dick off, so may they do like Bud Light out there.

You're not listen dude. I'm coming from a business perspective. I have very little belief about your Bud Light story. This is what happens in these situations. People go balls to the wall over something they don't consume anyway. Why? All you do is give them more attention. No one has sales numbers yet for publicly traded beer/beverage companies yet. They don't have to be honest. I guess people just don't get my point. Whatever. If this relative didn't knew about the Bud Light marketing and still bought it, isn't that a fact that most people don't know a damn thing about it?

Mexicans don't drink Bud Light and if they knew they would have never bought it. With 99% confidence the story is a lie. Then the defensive reaction adds on the final 1%. Dude, I know too many people. Your story doesn't add up.

WookieMan says

Congrats. You can type Spanish. That means nothing. Mexicans don't drink Bud Light. They don't want to. My point is flying over your head. There's maybe a 5% chance the person, if hispanic, bought Bud Light. Another unicorn in our midst. Or maybe it's a California thing. Between NYC and CA that's ground zero for chopping your dick off, so may they do like Bud Light out there.

Saw a Central American all of 5'4" buying Bud Light at Circle K about 4PM in the afternoon, guy looked like he just got off work, everybody was ribbing him (including other Hispanics) but knew his big can was what he could honestly afford, he was smiling and holding his hands palm upward in a "What can ya do?" position. This was about a week ago, in Florida, obviously.

They know.

AmericanKulak says

his big can was what he could honestly afford,

If I was there, I would have bought him a Coors, Tome, or whatever brand he wanted.

Illana Glazer, spokesbabe for Miller's "Women invented beer" bullshit, in many scantily clad outfits.

Here's Illana Glazer, spokesbabe for Miller in their "Muh Women Brewers" ad.



Her instagram has her emerging from a pool in a two piece:


And her Broad City show has a pixelated funny scene of her assuming the waiting for Kulak position.


As usual, women only turn against sexualization when they start to age out of it, or are ugly to begin with. If and when they can profit by it - as Illana Glazer did on her Instagram RECENTLY, it's A-OK

AmericanKulak says

Saw a Central American all of 5'4" buying Bud Light at Circle K about 4PM in the afternoon, guy looked like he just got off work, everybody was ribbing him (including other Hispanics) but knew his big can was what he could honestly afford, he was smiling and holding his hands palm upward in a "What can ya do?" position. This was about a week ago, in Florida, obviously.

Not doubting it, but for a rural area and the closer suburban city, we have a high(ish) hispanic population, about 15-20%. Obviously a lot of landscapers. Wasn't actively looking until now, but I still don't recall ever seeing a hispanic person buying Bud Light by can or case and I do a lot of gas station stops. Definitely don't see it at bars or restaurants. And hispanics I personally know would never drink Bud Light. Decent sample size.

I don't drink it so maybe there is public shame, but I have an extremely hard time believing it's as rampant as media and forums say. I need to see it myself and I just haven't. And I'm out at least one time a week at a bar and 2-3 times at a gas station. I know I've seen Bud Light being purchased by non-hispanics. But no one giving crap about it. Might be different in the Midwest I suppose?

My experience has led me to believe that the sales result dropping off a cliff are bull shit. Now whoever "they" are, go after Miller (don't drink that either). You either like the beer or it's a backup go to if they don't have what you like. Most franchised restaurants have Bud, Miller, Coors and maybe some craft beer. The reality is your going to have to have a mixed drink, shitty house wine or a shitty beer. I'd pick the shitty beer when there's no options. Now that Miller is getting trashed you're down to Coors which is the worst of the 3 in my opinion.

Not many options if you're a beer only drinker is all I'm getting at. The sales drop is from packaged beer in grocery stores. Either way we'll see in July when 2nd quarter (summer) numbers drop. I'll admit I'm wrong if the numbers are accurate. I think this turns into a joke among beer drinkers. Buying buddies Bud Light as a gag. And eventually it normalizes as this fades away. As usual I don't support the advertising but in a crunch at a crappy airport bar I will drink it if the options are shit.

Spend a bit more and go with local craft beer.
Help the little guy!

WookieMan says

Now that Miller is getting trashed you're down to Coors which is the worst of the 3 in my opinion.

I don't honestly think I could differentiate between any of them, or Sapporo or King Fischer. I notice that when I drink such a beer, there's a shock on the first taste, but I adjust to it quickly, and then it's just slightly sweet fizzy water with some alcohol in it. It's the sourness I don't care for, and they all taste a little stale.

30 years ago when I was in college, the difference in cost between a 6 pack of a major brand, and a "craft" beer was like $1, and the difference was $4 versus $5. Hmmm, Samuel Adams or Budweiser.. It just wasn't worth it to save $1 and just randomly going through things, sometimes you ended up with something that was genuinely delicious.

WookieMan says

Not doubting it, but for a rural area and the closer suburban city, we have a high(ish) hispanic population, about 15-20%. Obviously a lot of landscapers. Wasn't actively looking until now, but I still don't recall ever seeing a hispanic person buying Bud Light by can or case and I do a lot of gas station stops. Definitely don't see it at bars or restaurants. And hispanics I personally know would never drink Bud Light. Decent sample size.

I do. It's the end of day cheap beer they can afford, at least here. Maybe you have a different mix up there.

The South has experienced about a 30% dropoff in Bud Light sales, and is the most anti-Bud in the country. I believe the Northeast was second; I don't remember the Midwest numbers.

A lot of Californians for example think every hispanic is a Mexican. Mexicans are like the Russians of Latin America: Most Latin Americans - at least the non-Central Americans, think the Mexicans are a little bit off and not quite like everybody else, and get a little PO'd when they're misidentified as one.

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/bud-light-backlash-shows-no-sign-letting-and-now-there-contagion-budweiser-busch-and

Bud Light Backlash Shows No Sign Of Letting Up, And Now There Is Contagion To Budweiser, Busch And Michelob

It will probably not come as a surprise to anyone - except some woke millennial Harvard MBA grad - but Bud Light volume and sales declines have worsened, according to the latest industry point-of-sales data, suggesting the tranny-influencer backlash is showing no signs of letting up.

As Bloomberg's Janet Freund notes, the most recent third-party point-of-sales data from both Circana (formerly IRI) and Nielsen show that declines in Bud Light dollar share, volume share and sales have continued to worsen.

https://notthebee.com/article/ford-trucks-goes-full-bud-light-releases-two-ads-redefining-toughness-using-rainbow-imagery-and-promoting-homosexuality

Ford goes full-Bud Light, releases two ads "redefining tough" using rainbow imagery to promote homosexuality and transgenderism