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Time for a cool change, out with Budweiser and with the new.


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2023 Apr 7, 8:59am   28,640 views  338 comments

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Across the redneck nation there are calls for a new official beer of Rural America. Butwiper really dropped the ball and screwed the pooch on this one.
I suggest Becks or St Paulie Girl, as both of those are under $12 a 12 pack these days. Where has Butwiper has been pushing the boundaries to how much they could charge for their Cultural Grog. I wouldn't mind seeing Shiner Boc become a huge national brand with a wider distribution than it currently has. Though when I do find it at the Publix here in South Florida, it's around $10.99 or more, for a 6pack. Even Guiness is a dollar cheaper than that on average.

I heard some chime in telling everyone to support their local craft beer brewers. I have never EVER had one single beer from a craft brewer that tasted anything like a old traditional beer recipe. And that's very important to me. I don't want off tastes, and hints of herbs, berries, citrus, or your Xer's vag yeast. Whart ever the fuck they put in there!

The problem I have with local craft beers, they have no respect for the traditional tried and true methods, and just brew a proper Lager, Pilsner, Ale, or Stout. They always have some untraditional ingredients in there, that makes it taste like crap, while they give a cute flavor name, which taste nothing like they suggest. Plus you can factor a good 40% of the cost of their beer goes into their packaging and marketing efforts. They claim they are craft beers, but they are trying like hell to be a major distributor at the expense of not focusing on a product worthy of such hullabaloo. And if I'm at a one more party and there's nothing left in the beer cooler but 9 seltzer fizzy beer, or sour IPAs in the cooler. I'm going loose my mind. Who brings these nasty beers, then proceeds to drink the hosts honest real beers? Nobody likes your soda beer, and IPA leave that crap at home. Who ever is doing that!

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197   Onvacation   2023 May 1, 8:55pm  

Tenpoundbass says


Shiner Bock

Found this during 2020 RV cross country trip while transiting Kansas.


Good Beer!
198   AmericanKulak   2023 May 1, 9:40pm  

Fournier’s photo showed 36-packs of Bud Light on sale for only $14.97.

“This is insane,” he commented.

That means in at least one store, a can of Bud Light is worth about 41 cents.

https://www.westernjournal.com/price-36-pack-bud-light-costco-goes-viral-pretty-much-giving-away-point/
199   NuttBoxer   2023 May 2, 8:12am  

AmericanKulak says

That means in at least one store, a can of Bud Light is worth about 41 cents.


That's not the cost of the beer, that's the cost of your dignity...
200   Tenpoundbass   2023 May 2, 8:17am  

Onvacation says

Found this during 2020 RV cross country trip while transiting Kansas.


Was it sweet like Dragon Stout or nutty like Guinness?

I'm not a fan of sweet dark beer.
201   Tenpoundbass   2023 May 2, 8:21am  

pudil says


The Budweiser brand is shot. The consumers have found similar alternatives. Sure in 6 months people won’t remember why they don’t like bud light, but by then they’ll just be habitually ordering a different beer.


Never fuck with a successful brand. All you want to do is push it into new markets. But you don't want to muck with the image or brand.

I remember when Mars spent tens of millions rolling out a new logo to look more "Internetty"(actual quote from the Mars manager near me at the time).
All of the signage, letter head, receipts all branding replaced with new logo. They were bankrupt in less than a year.
It's a shame I liked Mars better than Guitar Center.

Pepsi isn't as prevalent as it was before they changed their logo to look like the Obama campaign logo.
They'll do just fine, the whole Pepsico umbrella will shield them regardless if nobody ever drinks it again. If they were just a soft drink company they would have gone bankrupt by now.
202   NuttBoxer   2023 May 2, 8:23am  

It's a lager, shouldn't taste like either of those as they're both stouts. Don't let the color fool you...
203   Tenpoundbass   2023 May 2, 8:35am  

I realize that but Lager can be a big word with lots of flavors and style.

Budweiser, Stella and Heineken are three Lagers I wouldn't drink with your mouth.

I'm drooling over all of these Czech and German lagers.

https://renegadebrewing.com/lager-beer/
204   NuttBoxer   2023 May 2, 9:41am  

Sure, styles can vary widely, but in Lagers I think they tend to stay pretty true. Comparatively I've had IPA's with zero bitterness, and on nitro they lose all their bite, really weird.

That list I think takes some liberties with their categorization. A Helles tastes much different than an average lager. Forgot about IPL's, Ballast Point had a good one(Fathom), before they got bought out.
205   NuttBoxer   2023 May 3, 9:01am  

Bleeding continues for Anhuser as Bud Light has now dropped over a quarter in profits compared to April 2022. This may not seem that important, but does everyone realize we have the potential to shutter one of the largest corporations in America because we disagree with their values? I've been railing on this point for a while here on patnet. How you live your life matters! Not how you vote once every 2 or 4 years, but how you LIVE!

More powerful than standing armies, central banks, corrupt governments is the will of the people. We will ALWAYS outnumber them, we will always have the final say.

Bud Light is a start. Now are you ready to change the world?
206   WookieMan   2023 May 3, 11:18am  

NuttBoxer says

Bud Light is a start. Now are you ready to change the world?

The money goes elsewhere. Likely to their other brands in their umbrella if you were already drinking Bud Light. Most people don't understand that large corporations own most beer brands, multiple.

Oh look, Busch has a fish on the can. I'll buy that. Same company.... People are morons. I'm not rooting for them but they'll be fine as other distractions come up. People forget.
207   Patrick   2023 May 3, 12:49pm  

https://notthebee.com/article/this-kind-of-collapse-has-never-occurred-in-history-bud-light-sales-have-plummeted-beyond-what-anyone-thought-possible




Bud Light decided to back a dangerous, indefensible, destructive ideology. They did it by picking one of the most intolerable and unlikable practitioners of this awful stuff. It's no great shock that people revolted against it.

Fortunately, it was enough people to send a message like this. As Beer Business Daily put it:

We've never seen such a dramatic shift in national share in such a short period of time.


Call me crazy, but I don't think we're done yet!
208   NuttBoxer   2023 May 3, 9:44pm  

WookieMan says

The money goes elsewhere. Likely to their other brands in their umbrella if you were already drinking Bud Light. Most people don't understand that large corporations own most beer brands, multiple.

Oh look, Busch has a fish on the can. I'll buy that. Same company.... People are morons. I'm not rooting for them but they'll be fine as other distractions come up. People forget.


Nope! All Anhuser sales are down, while Miller and Coors sales are up. Busch was specifically mentioned as one of those down brands.
209   ElYorsh   2023 May 3, 9:50pm  

Patrick says

Not only will I never drink a Bud again, I will find out all related brands and avoid them, and tell everyone I know for the rest of my life to avoid them. I will not even remain in the presence of anyone drinking any of them. That's how much I loathe Bud now.

https://www.anheuser-busch.com/brands

AVOID:

10 Barrel
Beck's
Blue Point
Bon & Viv Spiked Seltzer
Breckenridge Brewe (some text omitted to shorten quote...) r Peaks Brewery
Golden Road Brewing
Goose Island Brewery
Green Valley Brewing
Hoegaarden
Hurricane
Johnny Appleseed
Karbach Brewing
King Cobra
Kona Brewing
LandShark Lager
Michelob
Modelo
Natural
Natural Light
Old Dominion Brewing
Omission Beer
Quilmes
Redbridge
Redhook
Rolling Rock
Shock Top
Spykes
Square Mile Cider
Stella Artois
Tilt
Wicked Weed Brewing
Widmer Brothers
Wild Blue Lager
Ziegenbock

Modelo is not owned by InBev in the USA. It is owned by Constellation Brands. I was relieved because it has been my favorite since I lived in Mexico
210   AmericanKulak   2023 May 4, 12:26am  

ElYorsh says

Hoegaarden

I would do that to avoid Hepatitis A,B,C and D.
211   Tenpoundbass   2023 May 4, 6:19am  

I go to Winn Dixie on the weekends, they have every cut of steak from $5,99 to $8.99(depending on marbling) Sometimes the 5 dollah steaks looks just as good as the 9 dollah ones.
I walked by the beer cooler and all of the Budweiser products were full. The Corona and Lite were the only brands that most of the product was cleared out.

This was on Marina Mile in a Hoity Toitish neighborhood, that I would think would all be Hillary voters. Ft Lauderdale rich are Liberals unlike the West Palm Beach rich folks who tend to be more conservative.
212   AmericanKulak   2023 May 10, 5:00pm  

Bud Light's hangover from hell: Sales figures for America's once-favorite beer reveal how EVERY region in U.S. has turned its back since the Dylan Mulvaney tie-up - as Anheuser-Busch stock is downgraded over 'crisis'
Sales in the Rocky Mountains have plummeted by 29 percent
The South Atlantic, West North Central and East South Central regions all fell 25 percent

Anheuser-Busch has had its stock downgraded by HSBC which says the brewing giant is in a 'crisis'
READ MORE: Bud Light contagion SPREADS to other Anheuser-Busch beers

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12068311/Bud-Light-sales-plunged-region-dropping-29-heartlands.html
213   NuttBoxer   2023 May 11, 8:49am  

Did someone post that video here? Sox game in Boston, no one waiting in line at the Bud Light stands. If even the big cities aren't woke enough, they're fucked.
214   richwicks   2023 May 11, 10:02am  

NuttBoxer says


Did someone post that video here? Sox game in Boston, no one waiting in line at the Bud Light stands. If even the big cities aren't woke enough, they're fucked.


I can:


original link
216   WookieMan   2023 May 12, 5:07am  

Sales are one thing. Revenue is another. Wisconsin is not a Bud state. Pabst and Spotted Cow are the beers. Other Milwaukee beers as well. So the sales drop if you know my region on the map is South of I-80. Basically Midwest rednecks not buying it, which is not a massive revenue number given the choices of beer. If Chicagoans are buying it at $6/beer and south of I-80 stops buying it at $3 with a smaller population it doesn't make that big of a difference.

I'll state again, not defending the marketing. It's gross as fuck, but I think this is being overplayed by people that want to short the stock. Which is their right, I just don't think the information put out there is accurate is all. Sure distributers have stats, but until Bud itself comes out with quarterly numbers no one knows. This is all made up as a regional distributor in IL is not communicating with WI distributors. They don't even compete with each other.

Also if a beer booth at a baseball game is empty, it's probably because the stadium is. Attendance for baseball has been declining and that will probably continue. No one wants to go to cities. https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/mlb-attendance-dipped-significantly-from-pre-pandemic-numbers/

All I'm saying is there are more variables to this than the advertising campaign. Time of year. Decline is sports attendance. And frankly cost. Sales will go down when you charge $4-5 for a Bud Light at the corner bar. And $9-12 at a sporting event. If you drink 1-2 going out and cut it down to 1 that's a 50% decline. The economy isn't going crazy right now. Prices are high. Cutting back on beer is an easy way to save money and isn't necessary. Lots of factors.
217   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2023 May 12, 5:37am  

clambo says

I saw a YouTube and the people called Bud Light "tranny fluid".


they are not wrong
218   Onvacation   2023 May 12, 5:54am  

Tenpoundbass says

I'm not a fan of sweet dark beer

I am.

Can't remember the exact taste bur it was good.
219   HeadSet   2023 May 12, 7:50am  

WookieMan says


All I'm saying is there are more variables to this than the advertising campaign. Time of year. Decline is sports attendance. And frankly cost. Sales will go down when you charge $4-5 for a Bud Light at the corner bar. And $9-12 at a sporting event. If you drink 1-2 going out and cut it down to 1 that's a 50% decline. The economy isn't going crazy right now. Prices are high. Cutting back on beer is an easy way to save money and isn't necessary. Lots of factors.

Except that the sales of competitor's beer have gone way up. This is not an example of beer sales falling off in general.
220   NuttBoxer   2023 May 12, 8:09am  

WookieMan says

All I'm saying is there are more variables to this than the advertising campaign.


Yeah, bullshit. The stock wasn't downgraded until after the marketing. The sales didn't drop until after the marketing. Videos and personal experiences of people avoiding it like the plague didn't start until after the marketing.

And yeah, if the stock has been downgraded, and the company has reshuffled c-level positions, you're just mincing words. But if you need that to understand, fine. It's the sales and the revenue.
221   WookieMan   2023 May 12, 9:01am  

HeadSet says

Except that the sales of competitor's beer have gone way up. This is not an example of beer sales falling off in general.

Yet to see proof of that. I don't like Bud Light or Budweiser. I'm neutral in this. I don't care. I just don't think people saying they boycotted something made a difference. The advertising was a dumb ass move. There is a supposed shock to the system that none of us can verify is true.

I'll say it again, beer sales drop off this time of year with lent and Easter. Talk to me in August about this and change my mind. Or until a full quarter goes by and they have to report. Until then none of this is facts about the situation. I know InBev owns them, but what's the outcome of this? Un-employ thousands of Americans? That's a real victory.

They fucked up big time. That's not the conversation. WHAT is the actual revenue loss? No one here knows and won't until July/August. I think a lot of you guys don't understand the average guy that goes out for a couple beers outside of coastal areas. You're blinded by your bias. Californians weren't drinking Bud Light anyway.

Sales are down because people are going out less. Someone show me a link where Miller sales are up. Also account for there just being more beers. Bud is going to lose market share regardless. I can promise you the people boycotting Bud weren't Bud drinkers at all. Seasonal matters and so do headlines. My wife is in that industry and she makes nothing from January to June. We're seeing a hyperbolized seasonal reaction due to a piss poor marketing campaign. They lost money for sure, but I don't think it's as dramatic as people think.
222   NuttBoxer   2023 May 12, 11:56am  

WookieMan says

Yet to see proof of that.


Have you looked for it? I haven't, but still I saw it. I guess that's because I use real news sites...
223   WookieMan   2023 May 12, 1:06pm  

NuttBoxer says

WookieMan says


Yet to see proof of that.


Have you looked for it? I haven't, but still I saw it. I guess that's because I use real news sites...

What have you seen? Everything in this thread is just meme type bull shit. No one has actual financials from Bud. Yes, they fired everyone involved basically which I'd agree with. All I'm saying is the doom and gloom is more about stock price and not reality. Yes, Q2 they'll make less money. We can talk when the summer numbers come in for Q3.

The fact is this is message board/forum fodder. Your average American doesn't even know what happened. They're busy drinking and doing drugs. You think 50% of Americans read or watch anything news related? MSM didn't even report on it. People that didn't drink Bud Light are boycotting something they don't drink. That's literally what this is.

Trannies are mentally disabled people and don't belong on anything. But it's not going to be the downfall of Bud Light. I'm not defending anything, but long term most people "thinking" their boycott did something will be proven wrong.
224   mell   2023 May 12, 1:13pm  

WookieMan says


What have you seen? Everything in this thread is just meme type bull shit. No one has actual financials from Bud. Yes, they fired everyone involved basically which I'd agree with. All I'm saying is the doom and gloom is more about stock price and not reality. Yes, Q2 they'll make less money. We can talk when the summer numbers come in for Q3.

The fact is this is message board/forum fodder. Your average American doesn't even know what happened. They're busy drinking and doing drugs. You think 50% of Americans read or watch anything news related? MSM didn't even report on it. People that didn't drink Bud Light are boycotting something they don't drink. That's literally what this is.

Trannies are mentally disabled people and don't belong on anything. But it's not going to be the downfall of Bud Light. I'm not defending anything, but long term most people "thinking" their boycott did something will be proven wrong.

It seems the effects are quite pronounced, and there will be revenue shortfall beyond seasonal. However I agree with the sentiment that it may not be its demise, I remember when people were saying this about Nike stock when they turned ultra woke and dipped, and then it made new highs later.
225   WookieMan   2023 May 12, 1:47pm  

mell says

It seems the effects are quite pronounced, and there will be revenue shortfall beyond seasonal. However I agree with the sentiment that it may not be its demise, I remember when people were saying this about Nike stock when they turned ultra woke and dipped, and then it made new highs later.

It's not even remotely like that either though. This was a one off thing. They fired them all. As a beer drinker (that doesn't drink Bud) they'll be fine. As gay as the tranny thing was, it's not going to stop people rolling into a bar buying Bud Light. Your grunt laborer doesn't watch news or go to forums where this shit is talked about.

And again, unless someone here knows their financials, everyone is talking out their ass including me. No pundit or news source actually knows. Time will tell the truth. I just believe I'm more likely to be right. We're talking taking down Coke or Pepsi at this level. Ain't happening. Hasn't for 100 years for similar brands in beverage. I don't drink it, but Bud Light ain't going anywhere.
226   AmericanKulak   2023 May 15, 5:23pm  

Seen in Winn Dixie: BOGO $16.19 for a case of 15 bottles of Tranny Fluid. 53 cents a bottle, retail.

The real issue is the distributors are getting creamed, stores aren't replenishing but the trucks still have to do the route, and Bud Light will have to lick that cost off a hairy Drag Queen's ass.

InBev downgraded to "Hold" from "Buy.
https://nypost.com/2023/05/10/anheuser-busch-stock-downgraded-over-bud-light-crisis/
227   richwicks   2023 May 15, 5:37pm  

WookieMan says

Yet to see proof of that. I don't like Bud Light or Budweiser. I'm neutral in this. I don't care. I just don't think people saying they boycotted something made a difference. The advertising was a dumb ass move. There is a supposed shock to the system that none of us can verify is true.


It's all anecdotal of course, but I think there might be actual pushback this time, because Budweiser really is a "redneck beer", and they are NOT on board the tranny train.

I think it will be forgotten. I think Balenciaga has been forgotten, and Gillette. It's a shockvertising campaign, and they are getting a TON of free press for it and you can't trust the press. They'll make a controversy out of anything, except an actual controversy.
228   AmericanKulak   2023 May 15, 5:53pm  

Gilette was not forgotten; they never recovered market share or the price premium they used to demand. In 2021 about $8B in losses had to be written off.
Competitors swooped in like Schtick, who made their blades interchangable with the Gilette Mach 3s people already had.

Also, behavior was greatly changed, Gilette never ran another woke ad after their pummeling.

Balenciaga is for the snooty kazooty crowd who is mostly woke anyway.

The amazing thing about spontaneous Conservative boycotts is how well they do despite near total opposition and negative coverage and demoralization campaigns against the Boycott from the Media.

This Bud Light thing is massive. It's spilling into their other brands like Michelob and Modelo.
229   richwicks   2023 May 15, 5:55pm  

AmericanKulak says

Gilette was not forgotten; they never recovered market share or the price premium they used to demand. Then competitors swooped in an Schtick made their blades interchangable with the Gilette Mach 3s people already had.

Balenciaga is for the snooty kazooty crowd who is mostly woke anyway.


I have a suggestion - just stop buying from nationwide brands. They're all going to do this shit.
230   AmericanKulak   2023 May 15, 5:58pm  

richwicks says


I have a suggestion - just stop buying from nationwide brands. They're all going to do this shit.

Abandon no battlefield, allow no default victory. Make them at least have to punch in the clock. Sure, cultivate local, but never give them a no show victory.
231   richwicks   2023 May 15, 6:04pm  

AmericanKulak says

richwicks says



I have a suggestion - just stop buying from nationwide brands. They're all going to do this shit.

Abandon no battlefield, allow no default victory. Make them at least have to punch in the clock. Sure, cultivate local, but never give them a no show victory.


This is all ESG shit. If companies don't play along, their lines of credit are cut. I don't think this crap is going to go on too long, all this stuff is optional and it's not like generic or small companies even advertise.

I find almost anything that is NOT advertised stands on the product alone, and it's almost always better, a sometimes in the same price range. I try to avoid anything that is advertised.
232   NuttBoxer   2023 May 15, 8:42pm  

WookieMan says

What have you seen? Everything in this thread is just meme type bull shit. No one has actual financials from Bud. Yes, they fired everyone involved basically which I'd agree with. All I'm saying is the doom and gloom is more about stock price and not reality.


Why would Bud have financials on other companies profits? Do you remember that's what you specifically called out as unproven?

No one was fired.

This took five seconds, but I actually care about the truth, not pushing my opinion. Doubt you'll read it as the search would have been just as easy for you:
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/bud-light-sales-plunged-astonishing-224500212.html

WookieMan says

Your average American doesn't even know what happened.


Read my story in the other thread. My wife's family are all blue collar Mexican's, and they pretty much all know what happened.
233   NuttBoxer   2023 May 15, 8:43pm  

richwicks says

I think Balenciaga has been forgotten, and Gillette.


I don't forgot pedophilia, I make lists.

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