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Time for a cool change, out with Budweiser and with the new.
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NuttBoxer
2023 Apr 26, 7:56am
NuttBoxer
2023 Apr 26, 7:56am
Tenpoundbass says
Like I said, I've had high alcohol beers that just taste like alcohol, no complexity there. IPA's have gotten more complex, starting with beers like Sculpin. They do typically check in at 6-7%, but I consider high alcohol 9% or higher. The best example of what you're describing are Belgium beers. I have had some fairly complex session and sour beers. A longer fermentation does mean higher alcohol in many cases, but there are complex beers with lower alcohol.
You mistook what I meant, I'm saying those beers I described with higher ABV have a complex taste, because of the other ingredients.
I don't think the higher Alcohol content alone does it. My proof with Bud Platinum that is a rice beer, it amplifies everything that is shitty about Budweiser. ..
I'm arguing with you, but making your point in a round about way. Perhaps it makes good beer better, and bad beer shittier.
Like I said, I've had high alcohol beers that just taste like alcohol, no complexity there. IPA's have gotten more complex, starting with beers like Sculpin. They do typically check in at 6-7%, but I consider high alcohol 9% or higher. The best example of what you're describing are Belgium beers. I have had some fairly complex session and sour beers. A longer fermentation does mean higher alcohol in many cases, but there are complex beers with lower alcohol.
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PeopleUnited
2023 Apr 29, 12:58pm
PeopleUnited
2023 Apr 29, 12:58pm
Tenpoundbass says
NuttBoxer says
Agreed, the richer flavored beers that you can get from the smaller breweries tend to use more/better/special ingredients to give that flavor. This often means more sugar, and longer/more fermentation and more alcohol. So it is not the alcohol that gives the flavor, it’s the process/ingredients that gives both the flavor and the higher alcohol content.
To me high ABV is anything above 5%. And yes I know that isn’t very high, but it’s just a general
Guideline. Almost all my go to beers are 5% or higher. And most brands main beers are less than 5% which to my palate is watered down crap. It’s good on a hot day at the beach or bbq when just about anything cold will do. But if I just want a cold drink water is better than most of the stuff people call beer.
My favorite beers are above 7% they tend to be the most flavorful. Bourbon barrel aged series beers are one example. And La Fin Du Monde, and La Trappe are some good imported Belgian style beers. Belgian beers seems hard to find in taprooms, but maybe ya‘ll have better watering holes in your neck of the woods.
I think that's because the process to make those full bodied beers, that has color and richness, creates the alcohol content.
NuttBoxer says
Probably more to do with style. Lower alcohol beers are usually Lagers, Pale Ales, Pilsner's, summer beers, session beers. Meant to be light, refreshing, and not filling.
Agreed, the richer flavored beers that you can get from the smaller breweries tend to use more/better/special ingredients to give that flavor. This often means more sugar, and longer/more fermentation and more alcohol. So it is not the alcohol that gives the flavor, it’s the process/ingredients that gives both the flavor and the higher alcohol content.
To me high ABV is anything above 5%. And yes I know that isn’t very high, but it’s just a general
Guideline. Almost all my go to beers are 5% or higher. And most brands main beers are less than 5% which to my palate is watered down crap. It’s good on a hot day at the beach or bbq when just about anything cold will do. But if I just want a cold drink water is better than most of the stuff people call beer.
My favorite beers are above 7% they tend to be the most flavorful. Bourbon barrel aged series beers are one example. And La Fin Du Monde, and La Trappe are some good imported Belgian style beers. Belgian beers seems hard to find in taprooms, but maybe ya‘ll have better watering holes in your neck of the woods.
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richwicks
2023 Apr 29, 2:13pm
richwicks
2023 Apr 29, 2:13pm
Tenpoundbass says
Ethiopia had a famine because it was a war tactic in the 1980s. Isn't it weird there was an entire war and those constant pleas for money from Sally Struthers, and you never were told that?
richwicks says
Also, you can't buy Ethiopian food - it's awesome
Sounds like a joke because they can't get Ethiopian food in Ethiopia either.
Ethiopia had a famine because it was a war tactic in the 1980s. Isn't it weird there was an entire war and those constant pleas for money from Sally Struthers, and you never were told that?
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AmericanKulak
2023 Apr 29, 6:08pm
AmericanKulak
2023 Apr 29, 6:08pm
richwicks says
Yep. The Marxists forcibly moved large segments of farming villages halfway in to the growing season; they were unable to plant food as a result and missed two growing seasons by the time they resettled.
In the 70s, that was a precursor of USA for Africa, UK aid to Biafra promoted on the BBC probably extended the war by years, as the government and milita confiscated aid at the ports and used it to keep the conflict going.
Tenpoundbass says
richwicks says
Also, you can't buy Ethiopian food - it's awesome
Sounds like a joke because they can't get Ethiopian food in Ethiopia either.
Ethiopia had a famine because it was a war tactic in the 1980s. Isn't it weird there was an entire war and those constant pleas for money from Sally Struthers, and you never were told that?
Yep. The Marxists forcibly moved large segments of farming villages halfway in to the growing season; they were unable to plant food as a result and missed two growing seasons by the time they resettled.
In the 70s, that was a precursor of USA for Africa, UK aid to Biafra promoted on the BBC probably extended the war by years, as the government and milita confiscated aid at the ports and used it to keep the conflict going.
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ThatGuy
2023 Apr 29, 7:06pm
pudil says
We used to call it butt light.
I took it to the next level, you're welcome..
https://twitter.com/N23Dprinting/status/1652493003720908800?ref_src=patrick.net
We need an easy, funny derogatory name for bud light you can rib your buddy with when you see him drink one.
We used to call it butt light.
I took it to the next level, you're welcome..
https://twitter.com/N23Dprinting/status/1652493003720908800?ref_src=patrick.net
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NuttBoxer
2023 May 1, 5:58pm
NuttBoxer
2023 May 1, 5:58pm
PeopleUnited says
Very good beer. Canadian I believe. I'm not into alcohol, except that I won't drink the really high ones anymore unless it's Belgium. But IPA's generally fall around 6-7%, and sours usually just a bit lower. Those are my go-to's beside the Belgium style beers.
I have brought higher alcohol dark beers to the beach, but not for me. My wife prefers dark coffee flavored, and she doesn't care about the time of year. I love a good session, summer, or lager during the summer.
And La Fin Du Monde
Very good beer. Canadian I believe. I'm not into alcohol, except that I won't drink the really high ones anymore unless it's Belgium. But IPA's generally fall around 6-7%, and sours usually just a bit lower. Those are my go-to's beside the Belgium style beers.
I have brought higher alcohol dark beers to the beach, but not for me. My wife prefers dark coffee flavored, and she doesn't care about the time of year. I love a good session, summer, or lager during the summer.
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PeopleUnited
2023 May 1, 7:54pm
PeopleUnited
2023 May 1, 7:54pm
NuttBoxer says
True, French Canadian I guess. it means end of the world! Sounds about right and tastes good too!
Very good beer. Canadian I believe.
True, French Canadian I guess. it means end of the world! Sounds about right and tastes good too!
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pudil
2023 May 1, 8:04pm
Misc says
Only 17%, that’s huge! Sure AbInbev has other brands of beer, but they paid leveraged dollars out the ass to acquire Budweiser and all their other brands. They won’t be able to service their debt if their #1 beer brand is making 20% less money for any amount of time.
And I bet the numbers are higher. At a kid’s birthday party this weekend. Cooler full of mixed beers including bud light. Not one guy drank one, cooler was full of blue cans when I left. At the bar that night. Not one bud light being drunk. Bartender said nobody orders them anymore. My non English speaking mother in law who would drink a six pack of bud light a day has switched to coolers.
The Budweiser brand is shot. The consumers have found similar alternatives. Sure in 6 months people won’t remember why they don’t like bud light, but by then they’ll just be habitually ordering a different beer.
Sales only dropped 17% from the fiasco.
I wonder how many employees they are gonna have to let go.
https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2023/04/24/bud-boycott-slashes-sales-17-percent/
Only 17%, that’s huge! Sure AbInbev has other brands of beer, but they paid leveraged dollars out the ass to acquire Budweiser and all their other brands. They won’t be able to service their debt if their #1 beer brand is making 20% less money for any amount of time.
And I bet the numbers are higher. At a kid’s birthday party this weekend. Cooler full of mixed beers including bud light. Not one guy drank one, cooler was full of blue cans when I left. At the bar that night. Not one bud light being drunk. Bartender said nobody orders them anymore. My non English speaking mother in law who would drink a six pack of bud light a day has switched to coolers.
The Budweiser brand is shot. The consumers have found similar alternatives. Sure in 6 months people won’t remember why they don’t like bud light, but by then they’ll just be habitually ordering a different beer.
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Onvacation
2023 May 1, 8:55pm
Onvacation
2023 May 1, 8:55pm
Tenpoundbass says
Found this during 2020 RV cross country trip while transiting Kansas.
Good Beer!
Shiner Bock
Found this during 2020 RV cross country trip while transiting Kansas.
Good Beer!
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AmericanKulak
2023 May 1, 9:40pm
AmericanKulak
2023 May 1, 9:40pm
Fournier’s photo showed 36-packs of Bud Light on sale for only $14.97.
“This is insane,” he commented.
That means in at least one store, a can of Bud Light is worth about 41 cents.
https://www.westernjournal.com/price-36-pack-bud-light-costco-goes-viral-pretty-much-giving-away-point/
“This is insane,” he commented.
That means in at least one store, a can of Bud Light is worth about 41 cents.
https://www.westernjournal.com/price-36-pack-bud-light-costco-goes-viral-pretty-much-giving-away-point/
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NuttBoxer
2023 May 2, 8:12am
NuttBoxer
2023 May 2, 8:12am
AmericanKulak says
That's not the cost of the beer, that's the cost of your dignity...
That means in at least one store, a can of Bud Light is worth about 41 cents.
That's not the cost of the beer, that's the cost of your dignity...
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Tenpoundbass
2023 May 2, 8:17am
Tenpoundbass
2023 May 2, 8:17am
Onvacation says
Was it sweet like Dragon Stout or nutty like Guinness?
I'm not a fan of sweet dark beer.
Found this during 2020 RV cross country trip while transiting Kansas.
Was it sweet like Dragon Stout or nutty like Guinness?
I'm not a fan of sweet dark beer.
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Tenpoundbass
2023 May 2, 8:21am
Tenpoundbass
2023 May 2, 8:21am
pudil says
Never fuck with a successful brand. All you want to do is push it into new markets. But you don't want to muck with the image or brand.
I remember when Mars spent tens of millions rolling out a new logo to look more "Internetty"(actual quote from the Mars manager near me at the time).
All of the signage, letter head, receipts all branding replaced with new logo. They were bankrupt in less than a year.
It's a shame I liked Mars better than Guitar Center.
Pepsi isn't as prevalent as it was before they changed their logo to look like the Obama campaign logo.
They'll do just fine, the whole Pepsico umbrella will shield them regardless if nobody ever drinks it again. If they were just a soft drink company they would have gone bankrupt by now.
The Budweiser brand is shot. The consumers have found similar alternatives. Sure in 6 months people won’t remember why they don’t like bud light, but by then they’ll just be habitually ordering a different beer.
Never fuck with a successful brand. All you want to do is push it into new markets. But you don't want to muck with the image or brand.
I remember when Mars spent tens of millions rolling out a new logo to look more "Internetty"(actual quote from the Mars manager near me at the time).
All of the signage, letter head, receipts all branding replaced with new logo. They were bankrupt in less than a year.
It's a shame I liked Mars better than Guitar Center.
Pepsi isn't as prevalent as it was before they changed their logo to look like the Obama campaign logo.
They'll do just fine, the whole Pepsico umbrella will shield them regardless if nobody ever drinks it again. If they were just a soft drink company they would have gone bankrupt by now.
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NuttBoxer
2023 May 2, 8:23am
NuttBoxer
2023 May 2, 8:23am
It's a lager, shouldn't taste like either of those as they're both stouts. Don't let the color fool you...
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Tenpoundbass
2023 May 2, 8:35am
Tenpoundbass
2023 May 2, 8:35am
I realize that but Lager can be a big word with lots of flavors and style.
Budweiser, Stella and Heineken are three Lagers I wouldn't drink with your mouth.
I'm drooling over all of these Czech and German lagers.
https://renegadebrewing.com/lager-beer/
Budweiser, Stella and Heineken are three Lagers I wouldn't drink with your mouth.
I'm drooling over all of these Czech and German lagers.
https://renegadebrewing.com/lager-beer/
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NuttBoxer
2023 May 2, 9:41am
NuttBoxer
2023 May 2, 9:41am
Sure, styles can vary widely, but in Lagers I think they tend to stay pretty true. Comparatively I've had IPA's with zero bitterness, and on nitro they lose all their bite, really weird.
That list I think takes some liberties with their categorization. A Helles tastes much different than an average lager. Forgot about IPL's, Ballast Point had a good one(Fathom), before they got bought out.
That list I think takes some liberties with their categorization. A Helles tastes much different than an average lager. Forgot about IPL's, Ballast Point had a good one(Fathom), before they got bought out.
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NuttBoxer
2023 May 3, 9:01am
NuttBoxer
2023 May 3, 9:01am
Bleeding continues for Anhuser as Bud Light has now dropped over a quarter in profits compared to April 2022. This may not seem that important, but does everyone realize we have the potential to shutter one of the largest corporations in America because we disagree with their values? I've been railing on this point for a while here on patnet. How you live your life matters! Not how you vote once every 2 or 4 years, but how you LIVE!
More powerful than standing armies, central banks, corrupt governments is the will of the people. We will ALWAYS outnumber them, we will always have the final say.
Bud Light is a start. Now are you ready to change the world?
More powerful than standing armies, central banks, corrupt governments is the will of the people. We will ALWAYS outnumber them, we will always have the final say.
Bud Light is a start. Now are you ready to change the world?
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WookieMan
2023 May 3, 11:18am
WookieMan
2023 May 3, 11:18am
NuttBoxer says
The money goes elsewhere. Likely to their other brands in their umbrella if you were already drinking Bud Light. Most people don't understand that large corporations own most beer brands, multiple.
Oh look, Busch has a fish on the can. I'll buy that. Same company.... People are morons. I'm not rooting for them but they'll be fine as other distractions come up. People forget.
Bud Light is a start. Now are you ready to change the world?
The money goes elsewhere. Likely to their other brands in their umbrella if you were already drinking Bud Light. Most people don't understand that large corporations own most beer brands, multiple.
Oh look, Busch has a fish on the can. I'll buy that. Same company.... People are morons. I'm not rooting for them but they'll be fine as other distractions come up. People forget.
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Patrick
2023 May 3, 12:49pm
Patrick
2023 May 3, 12:49pm
https://notthebee.com/article/this-kind-of-collapse-has-never-occurred-in-history-bud-light-sales-have-plummeted-beyond-what-anyone-thought-possible
Bud Light decided to back a dangerous, indefensible, destructive ideology. They did it by picking one of the most intolerable and unlikable practitioners of this awful stuff. It's no great shock that people revolted against it.
Fortunately, it was enough people to send a message like this. As Beer Business Daily put it:
We've never seen such a dramatic shift in national share in such a short period of time.
Call me crazy, but I don't think we're done yet!
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NuttBoxer
2023 May 3, 9:44pm
NuttBoxer
2023 May 3, 9:44pm
WookieMan says
Nope! All Anhuser sales are down, while Miller and Coors sales are up. Busch was specifically mentioned as one of those down brands.
The money goes elsewhere. Likely to their other brands in their umbrella if you were already drinking Bud Light. Most people don't understand that large corporations own most beer brands, multiple.
Oh look, Busch has a fish on the can. I'll buy that. Same company.... People are morons. I'm not rooting for them but they'll be fine as other distractions come up. People forget.
Nope! All Anhuser sales are down, while Miller and Coors sales are up. Busch was specifically mentioned as one of those down brands.
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ElYorsh
2023 May 3, 9:50pm
Patrick says
Modelo is not owned by InBev in the USA. It is owned by Constellation Brands. I was relieved because it has been my favorite since I lived in Mexico
Not only will I never drink a Bud again, I will find out all related brands and avoid them, and tell everyone I know for the rest of my life to avoid them. I will not even remain in the presence of anyone drinking any of them. That's how much I loathe Bud now.
https://www.anheuser-busch.com/brands
AVOID:
10 Barrel
Beck's
Blue Point
Bon & Viv Spiked Seltzer
Breckenridge Brewe (some text omitted to shorten quote...) r Peaks Brewery
Golden Road Brewing
Goose Island Brewery
Green Valley Brewing
Hoegaarden
Hurricane
Johnny Appleseed
Karbach Brewing
King Cobra
Kona Brewing
LandShark Lager
Michelob
Modelo
Natural
Natural Light
Old Dominion Brewing
Omission Beer
Quilmes
Redbridge
Redhook
Rolling Rock
Shock Top
Spykes
Square Mile Cider
Stella Artois
Tilt
Wicked Weed Brewing
Widmer Brothers
Wild Blue Lager
Ziegenbock
Modelo is not owned by InBev in the USA. It is owned by Constellation Brands. I was relieved because it has been my favorite since I lived in Mexico
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Tenpoundbass
2023 May 4, 6:19am
Tenpoundbass
2023 May 4, 6:19am
I go to Winn Dixie on the weekends, they have every cut of steak from $5,99 to $8.99(depending on marbling) Sometimes the 5 dollah steaks looks just as good as the 9 dollah ones.
I walked by the beer cooler and all of the Budweiser products were full. The Corona and Lite were the only brands that most of the product was cleared out.
This was on Marina Mile in a Hoity Toitish neighborhood, that I would think would all be Hillary voters. Ft Lauderdale rich are Liberals unlike the West Palm Beach rich folks who tend to be more conservative.
I walked by the beer cooler and all of the Budweiser products were full. The Corona and Lite were the only brands that most of the product was cleared out.
This was on Marina Mile in a Hoity Toitish neighborhood, that I would think would all be Hillary voters. Ft Lauderdale rich are Liberals unlike the West Palm Beach rich folks who tend to be more conservative.
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AmericanKulak
2023 May 10, 5:00pm
AmericanKulak
2023 May 10, 5:00pm
Bud Light's hangover from hell: Sales figures for America's once-favorite beer reveal how EVERY region in U.S. has turned its back since the Dylan Mulvaney tie-up - as Anheuser-Busch stock is downgraded over 'crisis'
Sales in the Rocky Mountains have plummeted by 29 percent
The South Atlantic, West North Central and East South Central regions all fell 25 percent
Anheuser-Busch has had its stock downgraded by HSBC which says the brewing giant is in a 'crisis'
READ MORE: Bud Light contagion SPREADS to other Anheuser-Busch beers
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12068311/Bud-Light-sales-plunged-region-dropping-29-heartlands.html
Sales in the Rocky Mountains have plummeted by 29 percent
The South Atlantic, West North Central and East South Central regions all fell 25 percent
Anheuser-Busch has had its stock downgraded by HSBC which says the brewing giant is in a 'crisis'
READ MORE: Bud Light contagion SPREADS to other Anheuser-Busch beers
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12068311/Bud-Light-sales-plunged-region-dropping-29-heartlands.html
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NuttBoxer
2023 May 11, 8:49am
NuttBoxer
2023 May 11, 8:49am
Did someone post that video here? Sox game in Boston, no one waiting in line at the Bud Light stands. If even the big cities aren't woke enough, they're fucked.
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richwicks
2023 May 11, 10:02am
richwicks
2023 May 11, 10:02am
NuttBoxer says
I can:
original link
Did someone post that video here? Sox game in Boston, no one waiting in line at the Bud Light stands. If even the big cities aren't woke enough, they're fucked.
I can:
original link
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WookieMan
2023 May 12, 5:07am
WookieMan
2023 May 12, 5:07am
Sales are one thing. Revenue is another. Wisconsin is not a Bud state. Pabst and Spotted Cow are the beers. Other Milwaukee beers as well. So the sales drop if you know my region on the map is South of I-80. Basically Midwest rednecks not buying it, which is not a massive revenue number given the choices of beer. If Chicagoans are buying it at $6/beer and south of I-80 stops buying it at $3 with a smaller population it doesn't make that big of a difference.
I'll state again, not defending the marketing. It's gross as fuck, but I think this is being overplayed by people that want to short the stock. Which is their right, I just don't think the information put out there is accurate is all. Sure distributers have stats, but until Bud itself comes out with quarterly numbers no one knows. This is all made up as a regional distributor in IL is not communicating with WI distributors. They don't even compete with each other.
Also if a beer booth at a baseball game is empty, it's probably because the stadium is. Attendance for baseball has been declining and that will probably continue. No one wants to go to cities. https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/mlb-attendance-dipped-significantly-from-pre-pandemic-numbers/
All I'm saying is there are more variables to this than the advertising campaign. Time of year. Decline is sports attendance. And frankly cost. Sales will go down when you charge $4-5 for a Bud Light at the corner bar. And $9-12 at a sporting event. If you drink 1-2 going out and cut it down to 1 that's a 50% decline. The economy isn't going crazy right now. Prices are high. Cutting back on beer is an easy way to save money and isn't necessary. Lots of factors.
I'll state again, not defending the marketing. It's gross as fuck, but I think this is being overplayed by people that want to short the stock. Which is their right, I just don't think the information put out there is accurate is all. Sure distributers have stats, but until Bud itself comes out with quarterly numbers no one knows. This is all made up as a regional distributor in IL is not communicating with WI distributors. They don't even compete with each other.
Also if a beer booth at a baseball game is empty, it's probably because the stadium is. Attendance for baseball has been declining and that will probably continue. No one wants to go to cities. https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/mlb-attendance-dipped-significantly-from-pre-pandemic-numbers/
All I'm saying is there are more variables to this than the advertising campaign. Time of year. Decline is sports attendance. And frankly cost. Sales will go down when you charge $4-5 for a Bud Light at the corner bar. And $9-12 at a sporting event. If you drink 1-2 going out and cut it down to 1 that's a 50% decline. The economy isn't going crazy right now. Prices are high. Cutting back on beer is an easy way to save money and isn't necessary. Lots of factors.
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Onvacation
2023 May 12, 5:54am
Onvacation
2023 May 12, 5:54am
Tenpoundbass says
I am.
Can't remember the exact taste bur it was good.
I'm not a fan of sweet dark beer
I am.
Can't remember the exact taste bur it was good.
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HeadSet
2023 May 12, 7:50am
HeadSet
2023 May 12, 7:50am
WookieMan says
Except that the sales of competitor's beer have gone way up. This is not an example of beer sales falling off in general.
All I'm saying is there are more variables to this than the advertising campaign. Time of year. Decline is sports attendance. And frankly cost. Sales will go down when you charge $4-5 for a Bud Light at the corner bar. And $9-12 at a sporting event. If you drink 1-2 going out and cut it down to 1 that's a 50% decline. The economy isn't going crazy right now. Prices are high. Cutting back on beer is an easy way to save money and isn't necessary. Lots of factors.
Except that the sales of competitor's beer have gone way up. This is not an example of beer sales falling off in general.
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NuttBoxer
2023 May 12, 8:09am
NuttBoxer
2023 May 12, 8:09am
WookieMan says
Yeah, bullshit. The stock wasn't downgraded until after the marketing. The sales didn't drop until after the marketing. Videos and personal experiences of people avoiding it like the plague didn't start until after the marketing.
And yeah, if the stock has been downgraded, and the company has reshuffled c-level positions, you're just mincing words. But if you need that to understand, fine. It's the sales and the revenue.
All I'm saying is there are more variables to this than the advertising campaign.
Yeah, bullshit. The stock wasn't downgraded until after the marketing. The sales didn't drop until after the marketing. Videos and personal experiences of people avoiding it like the plague didn't start until after the marketing.
And yeah, if the stock has been downgraded, and the company has reshuffled c-level positions, you're just mincing words. But if you need that to understand, fine. It's the sales and the revenue.
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WookieMan
2023 May 12, 9:01am
WookieMan
2023 May 12, 9:01am
HeadSet says
Yet to see proof of that. I don't like Bud Light or Budweiser. I'm neutral in this. I don't care. I just don't think people saying they boycotted something made a difference. The advertising was a dumb ass move. There is a supposed shock to the system that none of us can verify is true.
I'll say it again, beer sales drop off this time of year with lent and Easter. Talk to me in August about this and change my mind. Or until a full quarter goes by and they have to report. Until then none of this is facts about the situation. I know InBev owns them, but what's the outcome of this? Un-employ thousands of Americans? That's a real victory.
They fucked up big time. That's not the conversation. WHAT is the actual revenue loss? No one here knows and won't until July/August. I think a lot of you guys don't understand the average guy that goes out for a couple beers outside of coastal areas. You're blinded by your bias. Californians weren't drinking Bud Light anyway.
Sales are down because people are going out less. Someone show me a link where Miller sales are up. Also account for there just being more beers. Bud is going to lose market share regardless. I can promise you the people boycotting Bud weren't Bud drinkers at all. Seasonal matters and so do headlines. My wife is in that industry and she makes nothing from January to June. We're seeing a hyperbolized seasonal reaction due to a piss poor marketing campaign. They lost money for sure, but I don't think it's as dramatic as people think.
Except that the sales of competitor's beer have gone way up. This is not an example of beer sales falling off in general.
Yet to see proof of that. I don't like Bud Light or Budweiser. I'm neutral in this. I don't care. I just don't think people saying they boycotted something made a difference. The advertising was a dumb ass move. There is a supposed shock to the system that none of us can verify is true.
I'll say it again, beer sales drop off this time of year with lent and Easter. Talk to me in August about this and change my mind. Or until a full quarter goes by and they have to report. Until then none of this is facts about the situation. I know InBev owns them, but what's the outcome of this? Un-employ thousands of Americans? That's a real victory.
They fucked up big time. That's not the conversation. WHAT is the actual revenue loss? No one here knows and won't until July/August. I think a lot of you guys don't understand the average guy that goes out for a couple beers outside of coastal areas. You're blinded by your bias. Californians weren't drinking Bud Light anyway.
Sales are down because people are going out less. Someone show me a link where Miller sales are up. Also account for there just being more beers. Bud is going to lose market share regardless. I can promise you the people boycotting Bud weren't Bud drinkers at all. Seasonal matters and so do headlines. My wife is in that industry and she makes nothing from January to June. We're seeing a hyperbolized seasonal reaction due to a piss poor marketing campaign. They lost money for sure, but I don't think it's as dramatic as people think.
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NuttBoxer
2023 May 12, 11:56am
NuttBoxer
2023 May 12, 11:56am
WookieMan says
Have you looked for it? I haven't, but still I saw it. I guess that's because I use real news sites...
Yet to see proof of that.
Have you looked for it? I haven't, but still I saw it. I guess that's because I use real news sites...
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I suggest Becks or St Paulie Girl, as both of those are under $12 a 12 pack these days. Where has Butwiper has been pushing the boundaries to how much they could charge for their Cultural Grog. I wouldn't mind seeing Shiner Boc become a huge national brand with a wider distribution than it currently has. Though when I do find it at the Publix here in South Florida, it's around $10.99 or more, for a 6pack. Even Guiness is a dollar cheaper than that on average.
I heard some chime in telling everyone to support their local craft beer brewers. I have never EVER had one single beer from a craft brewer that tasted anything like a old traditional beer recipe. And that's very important to me. I don't want off tastes, and hints of herbs, berries, citrus, or your Xer's vag yeast. Whart ever the fuck they put in there!
The problem I have with local craft beers, they have no respect for the traditional tried and true methods, and just brew a proper Lager, Pilsner, Ale, or Stout. They always have some untraditional ingredients in there, that makes it taste like crap, while they give a cute flavor name, which taste nothing like they suggest. Plus you can factor a good 40% of the cost of their beer goes into their packaging and marketing efforts. They claim they are craft beers, but they are trying like hell to be a major distributor at the expense of not focusing on a product worthy of such hullabaloo. And if I'm at a one more party and there's nothing left in the beer cooler but 9 seltzer fizzy beer, or sour IPAs in the cooler. I'm going loose my mind. Who brings these nasty beers, then proceeds to drink the hosts honest real beers? Nobody likes your soda beer, and IPA leave that crap at home. Who ever is doing that!