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Time for a cool change, out with Budweiser and with the new.
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Misc
2023 Apr 24, 11:46pm
Sales only dropped 17% from the fiasco.
I wonder how many employees they are gonna have to let go.
https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2023/04/24/bud-boycott-slashes-sales-17-percent/
I wonder how many employees they are gonna have to let go.
https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2023/04/24/bud-boycott-slashes-sales-17-percent/
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Tenpoundbass
2023 Apr 25, 7:16am
Tenpoundbass
2023 Apr 25, 7:16am
PeopleUnited says
I think that's because the process to make those full bodied beers, that has color and richness, creates the alcohol content.
It's definitely NOT the alcohol. My Buddy drinks Bud Light Platinum, it has a much higher content than almost any other beer at the corner store display cooler. I call the shit "Wife Beater Beer". It taste like ass, I don't care for Budweiser or Bud Light, but that Platinum beer the alcohol makes it taste like you're drinking Hobo Armpit Sweat.
I’m not a big drinker but I find the higher ABV tends to have more flavor. Lower ABV often tastes watery or lacks fullness
I think that's because the process to make those full bodied beers, that has color and richness, creates the alcohol content.
It's definitely NOT the alcohol. My Buddy drinks Bud Light Platinum, it has a much higher content than almost any other beer at the corner store display cooler. I call the shit "Wife Beater Beer". It taste like ass, I don't care for Budweiser or Bud Light, but that Platinum beer the alcohol makes it taste like you're drinking Hobo Armpit Sweat.
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WookieMan
2023 Apr 25, 9:13am
WookieMan
2023 Apr 25, 9:13am
Misc says
They'll rebound. Maybe Coors or Miller will pick up some of their customers. I think net loss of consumption is 1-3% long term. They'll lay off 30 people and raise prices 0.10¢ a can/bottle. There will be some other controversy that puts this in the rear view mirror of history. It was a stupid move, but I think overall it's not going to impact them once summer kicks in.
We're in the dry season after the Super Bowl and March Madness/Spring break. Sales likely would drop anyway in April up to Memorial Day. Easter and mothers day coming up. College finals testing. Not a huge drinking time of year. Farmers are getting busy and they like cheap beer but are drinking less prepping for planting. Lots of variables besides the dumb ass marketing.
At the end of the day it's really not something worth getting worked up about if we're being honest. Was it dumb as shit? Resounding yes. There are bigger fish to fry. Like actual trans people that are a societal problem and grooming our kids. I don't give a shit about beer branding. I get the reach of it, but the 800 lbs gorilla in the room is the mental illness of trans people. I don't care about beer. These people need professional help.
Sales only dropped 17% from the fiasco.
I wonder how many employees they are gonna have to let go.
https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2023/04/24/bud-boycott-slashes-sales-17-percent/
They'll rebound. Maybe Coors or Miller will pick up some of their customers. I think net loss of consumption is 1-3% long term. They'll lay off 30 people and raise prices 0.10¢ a can/bottle. There will be some other controversy that puts this in the rear view mirror of history. It was a stupid move, but I think overall it's not going to impact them once summer kicks in.
We're in the dry season after the Super Bowl and March Madness/Spring break. Sales likely would drop anyway in April up to Memorial Day. Easter and mothers day coming up. College finals testing. Not a huge drinking time of year. Farmers are getting busy and they like cheap beer but are drinking less prepping for planting. Lots of variables besides the dumb ass marketing.
At the end of the day it's really not something worth getting worked up about if we're being honest. Was it dumb as shit? Resounding yes. There are bigger fish to fry. Like actual trans people that are a societal problem and grooming our kids. I don't give a shit about beer branding. I get the reach of it, but the 800 lbs gorilla in the room is the mental illness of trans people. I don't care about beer. These people need professional help.
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AmericanKulak
2023 Apr 25, 9:26am
AmericanKulak
2023 Apr 25, 9:26am
WookieMan says
All marketing/advertising journalism is now done by Woke Lib Arts Millenial Chicks who never worked a day at a real job, so they'll spin every number as unrelated to Woke Advertising disasters.
Gillette is still suffering, though it's part of P&G and hard to tease out everything. Since the infamous grill ad, they lost 30% of US Market share, and there's no way to put lipstick on that pig.
There's also an "Acceleration" factor. They'll claim it's that beards returned, and that's true to an extent, but you still have to groom a decent beard and shave the cheeks and neck. And the beard trend predated the grilling ad by several years.
Old fashioned shaving with double edge razors and shrocks have returned, guys are spending less on disposable razors and replacing them with higher end razors with replaceable blades.
Jeremy's Razors and Barbasol, many other small companies started or grew in sales during this time. Great to see more manufacturers and choice.
Same will happen with Bud Light. There's already a wave decades old of drinking less but better beer. The Bud Light shit will only accelerate the decline of large macrobrewery pisswater. It's yet another reason for people not to buy.
They'll rebound. Maybe Coors or Miller will pick up some of their customers. I think net loss of consumption is 1-3% long term.
All marketing/advertising journalism is now done by Woke Lib Arts Millenial Chicks who never worked a day at a real job, so they'll spin every number as unrelated to Woke Advertising disasters.
Gillette is still suffering, though it's part of P&G and hard to tease out everything. Since the infamous grill ad, they lost 30% of US Market share, and there's no way to put lipstick on that pig.
There's also an "Acceleration" factor. They'll claim it's that beards returned, and that's true to an extent, but you still have to groom a decent beard and shave the cheeks and neck. And the beard trend predated the grilling ad by several years.
Old fashioned shaving with double edge razors and shrocks have returned, guys are spending less on disposable razors and replacing them with higher end razors with replaceable blades.
Jeremy's Razors and Barbasol, many other small companies started or grew in sales during this time. Great to see more manufacturers and choice.
Same will happen with Bud Light. There's already a wave decades old of drinking less but better beer. The Bud Light shit will only accelerate the decline of large macrobrewery pisswater. It's yet another reason for people not to buy.
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WookieMan
2023 Apr 25, 10:02am
WookieMan
2023 Apr 25, 10:02am
AmericanKulak says
I'm not a fan boy. I'm just saying Bud Light, Coors Light and Miller Light are the big 3 of cheap tavern beers. It's not going anywhere. It's at every non-craft beer bar. If you don't want an IPA or Stout it's a go to if they don't have the others. This is a vocal minority thing. It was the dumbest possible marketing move, but it will iron itself out. I don't see Gillette style losses long term.
This a Coke versus Pepsi discussion really. If you prefer one you're probably going to stick with it. They make a bad marketing decision, you probably stick with it if you like it. Again, not a fan of Bud Light, I just don't think it's as big a deal as the minority is making it out to be. They fucked up. No one really cares. I've easily seen 100 friends and peers since this happened. No one actually cares outside of again a vocal minority.
Bigger battles to fight instead of beer marketing if I'm being honest.
Same will happen with Bud Light. There's already a wave decades old of drinking less but better beer. The Bud Light shit will only accelerate the decline of large macrobrewery pisswater. It's yet another reason for people not to buy.
I'm not a fan boy. I'm just saying Bud Light, Coors Light and Miller Light are the big 3 of cheap tavern beers. It's not going anywhere. It's at every non-craft beer bar. If you don't want an IPA or Stout it's a go to if they don't have the others. This is a vocal minority thing. It was the dumbest possible marketing move, but it will iron itself out. I don't see Gillette style losses long term.
This a Coke versus Pepsi discussion really. If you prefer one you're probably going to stick with it. They make a bad marketing decision, you probably stick with it if you like it. Again, not a fan of Bud Light, I just don't think it's as big a deal as the minority is making it out to be. They fucked up. No one really cares. I've easily seen 100 friends and peers since this happened. No one actually cares outside of again a vocal minority.
Bigger battles to fight instead of beer marketing if I'm being honest.
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Apr 25, 10:41am
fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Apr 25, 10:41am
I'm in San Diego till the summer, then mostly only back on weekends as I'll be in Arizona. If you guys want to get together, let me know.
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Apr 25, 10:45am
fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Apr 25, 10:45am
PeopleUnited says
Probably more to do with style. Lower alcohol beers are usually Lagers, Pale Ales, Pilsner's, summer beers, session beers. Meant to be light, refreshing, and not filling.
In contrast a Belgium is usually double digits, and almost like a meal in itself. Although I will say one of the best beers I've ever had was 3.2 percent. Kind of ordered by mistake when I was at Stone. New York brewery. Really outstanding flavor.
but I find the higher ABV tends to have more flavor. Lower ABV often tastes watery or lacks fullness.
Probably more to do with style. Lower alcohol beers are usually Lagers, Pale Ales, Pilsner's, summer beers, session beers. Meant to be light, refreshing, and not filling.
In contrast a Belgium is usually double digits, and almost like a meal in itself. Although I will say one of the best beers I've ever had was 3.2 percent. Kind of ordered by mistake when I was at Stone. New York brewery. Really outstanding flavor.
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Apr 25, 10:49am
fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Apr 25, 10:49am
Tenpoundbass says
I believe the color is mainly a byproduct of the grain used. If you've ever had a dark IPA, it will still have the same body and flavor, just dark.
Alcohol is created as the yeast eats the sugars during the fermentation period. So the longer you ferment, the higher the content. but you have to be careful as too high kills the yeast, and fucks up the flavor. I think this is a common problem with a lot of high alcohol beers where I just taste the alcohol, not the beer. A great San Diego beer that never makes this mistake is Speedway Stout from Alesmith. Clocks in around 12-13%, never taste a drop of alcohol, just a great beer, especially if you like coffee flavor(they use local beans).
I think that's because the process to make those full bodied beers, that has color and richness, creates the alcohol content.
I believe the color is mainly a byproduct of the grain used. If you've ever had a dark IPA, it will still have the same body and flavor, just dark.
Alcohol is created as the yeast eats the sugars during the fermentation period. So the longer you ferment, the higher the content. but you have to be careful as too high kills the yeast, and fucks up the flavor. I think this is a common problem with a lot of high alcohol beers where I just taste the alcohol, not the beer. A great San Diego beer that never makes this mistake is Speedway Stout from Alesmith. Clocks in around 12-13%, never taste a drop of alcohol, just a great beer, especially if you like coffee flavor(they use local beans).
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AmericanKulak
2023 Apr 25, 10:34pm
AmericanKulak
2023 Apr 25, 10:34pm
Sorry for badtube, but a great parody song for Budweiser.
To the tune of "What a Night"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLqeRMRmoxs
To the tune of "What a Night"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLqeRMRmoxs
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richwicks
2023 Apr 25, 11:02pm
richwicks
2023 Apr 25, 11:02pm
NuttBoxer says
What? What is dark to you.
All IPA's I've had I'd consider "dark". They are certainly darker than any pilsner.
How do I explain it when I don't know where you live? I'm in CommieFornie, I don't think you can get the same IPA I can easily buy.
Also, you can't buy Ethiopian food - it's awesome - and fuck anybody that doesn't realize it. The bread (Injera) must be sour, but if they can do that, the rest of it is pretty good. It's similar to northern Indian food, and if you don't like that, fuck you - you have no taste for excellence.
I trade off longevity for experience.
I believe the color is mainly a byproduct of the grain used. If you've ever had a dark IPA,
What? What is dark to you.
All IPA's I've had I'd consider "dark". They are certainly darker than any pilsner.
How do I explain it when I don't know where you live? I'm in CommieFornie, I don't think you can get the same IPA I can easily buy.
Also, you can't buy Ethiopian food - it's awesome - and fuck anybody that doesn't realize it. The bread (Injera) must be sour, but if they can do that, the rest of it is pretty good. It's similar to northern Indian food, and if you don't like that, fuck you - you have no taste for excellence.
I trade off longevity for experience.
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Tenpoundbass
2023 Apr 26, 6:13am
Tenpoundbass
2023 Apr 26, 6:13am
NuttBoxer says
You mistook what I meant, I'm saying those beers I described with higher ABV have a complex taste, because of the other ingredients.
I don't think the higher Alcohol content alone does it. My proof with Bud Platinum that is a rice beer, it amplifies everything that is shitty about Budweiser. ..
I'm arguing with you, but making your point in a round about way. Perhaps it makes good beer better, and bad beer shittier.
I think that's because the process to make those full bodied beers, that has color and richness, creates the alcohol content.
I believe the color is mainly a byproduct of the grain used. If you've ever had a dark IPA, it will still have the same body and flavor, just dark.
You mistook what I meant, I'm saying those beers I described with higher ABV have a complex taste, because of the other ingredients.
I don't think the higher Alcohol content alone does it. My proof with Bud Platinum that is a rice beer, it amplifies everything that is shitty about Budweiser. ..
I'm arguing with you, but making your point in a round about way. Perhaps it makes good beer better, and bad beer shittier.
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Tenpoundbass
2023 Apr 26, 6:15am
Tenpoundbass
2023 Apr 26, 6:15am
richwicks says
Sounds like a joke because they can't get Ethiopian food in Ethiopia either.
Also, you can't buy Ethiopian food - it's awesome
Sounds like a joke because they can't get Ethiopian food in Ethiopia either.
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Apr 26, 7:48am
fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Apr 26, 7:48am
richwicks says
I'm not talking in subtleties, black IPA. Same color as a stout or porter. I live in San Diego, the beer capital of the United States. I can get almost anything.
I've had Ethiopian food. Used to live in an area with a lot of Africans. Not my favorite(the food).
What? What is dark to you.
All IPA's I've had I'd consider "dark". They are certainly darker than any pilsner.
How do I explain it when I don't know where you live? I'm in CommieFornie, I don't think you can get the same IPA I can easily buy.
Also, you can't buy Ethiopian food - it's awesome - and fuck anybody that doesn't realize it. The bread (Injera) must be sour, but if they can do that, the rest of it is pretty good. It's similar to northern Indian food, and if you don't like that, fuck you - you have no taste for excellence.
I trade off longevity for experience.
I'm not talking in subtleties, black IPA. Same color as a stout or porter. I live in San Diego, the beer capital of the United States. I can get almost anything.
I've had Ethiopian food. Used to live in an area with a lot of Africans. Not my favorite(the food).
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Apr 26, 7:56am
fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Apr 26, 7:56am
Tenpoundbass says
Like I said, I've had high alcohol beers that just taste like alcohol, no complexity there. IPA's have gotten more complex, starting with beers like Sculpin. They do typically check in at 6-7%, but I consider high alcohol 9% or higher. The best example of what you're describing are Belgium beers. I have had some fairly complex session and sour beers. A longer fermentation does mean higher alcohol in many cases, but there are complex beers with lower alcohol.
You mistook what I meant, I'm saying those beers I described with higher ABV have a complex taste, because of the other ingredients.
I don't think the higher Alcohol content alone does it. My proof with Bud Platinum that is a rice beer, it amplifies everything that is shitty about Budweiser. ..
I'm arguing with you, but making your point in a round about way. Perhaps it makes good beer better, and bad beer shittier.
Like I said, I've had high alcohol beers that just taste like alcohol, no complexity there. IPA's have gotten more complex, starting with beers like Sculpin. They do typically check in at 6-7%, but I consider high alcohol 9% or higher. The best example of what you're describing are Belgium beers. I have had some fairly complex session and sour beers. A longer fermentation does mean higher alcohol in many cases, but there are complex beers with lower alcohol.
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PeopleUnited
2023 Apr 29, 12:58pm
PeopleUnited
2023 Apr 29, 12:58pm
Tenpoundbass says
NuttBoxer says
Agreed, the richer flavored beers that you can get from the smaller breweries tend to use more/better/special ingredients to give that flavor. This often means more sugar, and longer/more fermentation and more alcohol. So it is not the alcohol that gives the flavor, it’s the process/ingredients that gives both the flavor and the higher alcohol content.
To me high ABV is anything above 5%. And yes I know that isn’t very high, but it’s just a general
Guideline. Almost all my go to beers are 5% or higher. And most brands main beers are less than 5% which to my palate is watered down crap. It’s good on a hot day at the beach or bbq when just about anything cold will do. But if I just want a cold drink water is better than most of the stuff people call beer.
My favorite beers are above 7% they tend to be the most flavorful. Bourbon barrel aged series beers are one example. And La Fin Du Monde, and La Trappe are some good imported Belgian style beers. Belgian beers seems hard to find in taprooms, but maybe ya‘ll have better watering holes in your neck of the woods.
I think that's because the process to make those full bodied beers, that has color and richness, creates the alcohol content.
NuttBoxer says
Probably more to do with style. Lower alcohol beers are usually Lagers, Pale Ales, Pilsner's, summer beers, session beers. Meant to be light, refreshing, and not filling.
Agreed, the richer flavored beers that you can get from the smaller breweries tend to use more/better/special ingredients to give that flavor. This often means more sugar, and longer/more fermentation and more alcohol. So it is not the alcohol that gives the flavor, it’s the process/ingredients that gives both the flavor and the higher alcohol content.
To me high ABV is anything above 5%. And yes I know that isn’t very high, but it’s just a general
Guideline. Almost all my go to beers are 5% or higher. And most brands main beers are less than 5% which to my palate is watered down crap. It’s good on a hot day at the beach or bbq when just about anything cold will do. But if I just want a cold drink water is better than most of the stuff people call beer.
My favorite beers are above 7% they tend to be the most flavorful. Bourbon barrel aged series beers are one example. And La Fin Du Monde, and La Trappe are some good imported Belgian style beers. Belgian beers seems hard to find in taprooms, but maybe ya‘ll have better watering holes in your neck of the woods.
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richwicks
2023 Apr 29, 2:13pm
richwicks
2023 Apr 29, 2:13pm
Tenpoundbass says
Ethiopia had a famine because it was a war tactic in the 1980s. Isn't it weird there was an entire war and those constant pleas for money from Sally Struthers, and you never were told that?
richwicks says
Also, you can't buy Ethiopian food - it's awesome
Sounds like a joke because they can't get Ethiopian food in Ethiopia either.
Ethiopia had a famine because it was a war tactic in the 1980s. Isn't it weird there was an entire war and those constant pleas for money from Sally Struthers, and you never were told that?
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AmericanKulak
2023 Apr 29, 6:08pm
AmericanKulak
2023 Apr 29, 6:08pm
richwicks says
Yep. The Marxists forcibly moved large segments of farming villages halfway in to the growing season; they were unable to plant food as a result and missed two growing seasons by the time they resettled.
In the 70s, that was a precursor of USA for Africa, UK aid to Biafra promoted on the BBC probably extended the war by years, as the government and milita confiscated aid at the ports and used it to keep the conflict going.
Tenpoundbass says
richwicks says
Also, you can't buy Ethiopian food - it's awesome
Sounds like a joke because they can't get Ethiopian food in Ethiopia either.
Ethiopia had a famine because it was a war tactic in the 1980s. Isn't it weird there was an entire war and those constant pleas for money from Sally Struthers, and you never were told that?
Yep. The Marxists forcibly moved large segments of farming villages halfway in to the growing season; they were unable to plant food as a result and missed two growing seasons by the time they resettled.
In the 70s, that was a precursor of USA for Africa, UK aid to Biafra promoted on the BBC probably extended the war by years, as the government and milita confiscated aid at the ports and used it to keep the conflict going.
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ThatGuy
2023 Apr 29, 7:06pm
pudil says
We used to call it butt light.
I took it to the next level, you're welcome..
https://twitter.com/N23Dprinting/status/1652493003720908800?ref_src=patrick.net
We need an easy, funny derogatory name for bud light you can rib your buddy with when you see him drink one.
We used to call it butt light.
I took it to the next level, you're welcome..
https://twitter.com/N23Dprinting/status/1652493003720908800?ref_src=patrick.net
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 May 1, 5:58pm
fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 May 1, 5:58pm
PeopleUnited says
Very good beer. Canadian I believe. I'm not into alcohol, except that I won't drink the really high ones anymore unless it's Belgium. But IPA's generally fall around 6-7%, and sours usually just a bit lower. Those are my go-to's beside the Belgium style beers.
I have brought higher alcohol dark beers to the beach, but not for me. My wife prefers dark coffee flavored, and she doesn't care about the time of year. I love a good session, summer, or lager during the summer.
And La Fin Du Monde
Very good beer. Canadian I believe. I'm not into alcohol, except that I won't drink the really high ones anymore unless it's Belgium. But IPA's generally fall around 6-7%, and sours usually just a bit lower. Those are my go-to's beside the Belgium style beers.
I have brought higher alcohol dark beers to the beach, but not for me. My wife prefers dark coffee flavored, and she doesn't care about the time of year. I love a good session, summer, or lager during the summer.
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PeopleUnited
2023 May 1, 7:54pm
PeopleUnited
2023 May 1, 7:54pm
NuttBoxer says
True, French Canadian I guess. it means end of the world! Sounds about right and tastes good too!
Very good beer. Canadian I believe.
True, French Canadian I guess. it means end of the world! Sounds about right and tastes good too!
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pudil
2023 May 1, 8:04pm
Misc says
Only 17%, that’s huge! Sure AbInbev has other brands of beer, but they paid leveraged dollars out the ass to acquire Budweiser and all their other brands. They won’t be able to service their debt if their #1 beer brand is making 20% less money for any amount of time.
And I bet the numbers are higher. At a kid’s birthday party this weekend. Cooler full of mixed beers including bud light. Not one guy drank one, cooler was full of blue cans when I left. At the bar that night. Not one bud light being drunk. Bartender said nobody orders them anymore. My non English speaking mother in law who would drink a six pack of bud light a day has switched to coolers.
The Budweiser brand is shot. The consumers have found similar alternatives. Sure in 6 months people won’t remember why they don’t like bud light, but by then they’ll just be habitually ordering a different beer.
Sales only dropped 17% from the fiasco.
I wonder how many employees they are gonna have to let go.
https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2023/04/24/bud-boycott-slashes-sales-17-percent/
Only 17%, that’s huge! Sure AbInbev has other brands of beer, but they paid leveraged dollars out the ass to acquire Budweiser and all their other brands. They won’t be able to service their debt if their #1 beer brand is making 20% less money for any amount of time.
And I bet the numbers are higher. At a kid’s birthday party this weekend. Cooler full of mixed beers including bud light. Not one guy drank one, cooler was full of blue cans when I left. At the bar that night. Not one bud light being drunk. Bartender said nobody orders them anymore. My non English speaking mother in law who would drink a six pack of bud light a day has switched to coolers.
The Budweiser brand is shot. The consumers have found similar alternatives. Sure in 6 months people won’t remember why they don’t like bud light, but by then they’ll just be habitually ordering a different beer.
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Onvacation
2023 May 1, 8:55pm
Onvacation
2023 May 1, 8:55pm
Tenpoundbass says
Found this during 2020 RV cross country trip while transiting Kansas.
Good Beer!
Shiner Bock
Found this during 2020 RV cross country trip while transiting Kansas.
Good Beer!
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AmericanKulak
2023 May 1, 9:40pm
AmericanKulak
2023 May 1, 9:40pm
Fournier’s photo showed 36-packs of Bud Light on sale for only $14.97.
“This is insane,” he commented.
That means in at least one store, a can of Bud Light is worth about 41 cents.
https://www.westernjournal.com/price-36-pack-bud-light-costco-goes-viral-pretty-much-giving-away-point/
“This is insane,” he commented.
That means in at least one store, a can of Bud Light is worth about 41 cents.
https://www.westernjournal.com/price-36-pack-bud-light-costco-goes-viral-pretty-much-giving-away-point/
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 May 2, 8:12am
fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 May 2, 8:12am
AmericanKulak says
That's not the cost of the beer, that's the cost of your dignity...
That means in at least one store, a can of Bud Light is worth about 41 cents.
That's not the cost of the beer, that's the cost of your dignity...
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Tenpoundbass
2023 May 2, 8:17am
Tenpoundbass
2023 May 2, 8:17am
Onvacation says
Was it sweet like Dragon Stout or nutty like Guinness?
I'm not a fan of sweet dark beer.
Found this during 2020 RV cross country trip while transiting Kansas.
Was it sweet like Dragon Stout or nutty like Guinness?
I'm not a fan of sweet dark beer.
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Tenpoundbass
2023 May 2, 8:21am
Tenpoundbass
2023 May 2, 8:21am
pudil says
Never fuck with a successful brand. All you want to do is push it into new markets. But you don't want to muck with the image or brand.
I remember when Mars spent tens of millions rolling out a new logo to look more "Internetty"(actual quote from the Mars manager near me at the time).
All of the signage, letter head, receipts all branding replaced with new logo. They were bankrupt in less than a year.
It's a shame I liked Mars better than Guitar Center.
Pepsi isn't as prevalent as it was before they changed their logo to look like the Obama campaign logo.
They'll do just fine, the whole Pepsico umbrella will shield them regardless if nobody ever drinks it again. If they were just a soft drink company they would have gone bankrupt by now.
The Budweiser brand is shot. The consumers have found similar alternatives. Sure in 6 months people won’t remember why they don’t like bud light, but by then they’ll just be habitually ordering a different beer.
Never fuck with a successful brand. All you want to do is push it into new markets. But you don't want to muck with the image or brand.
I remember when Mars spent tens of millions rolling out a new logo to look more "Internetty"(actual quote from the Mars manager near me at the time).
All of the signage, letter head, receipts all branding replaced with new logo. They were bankrupt in less than a year.
It's a shame I liked Mars better than Guitar Center.
Pepsi isn't as prevalent as it was before they changed their logo to look like the Obama campaign logo.
They'll do just fine, the whole Pepsico umbrella will shield them regardless if nobody ever drinks it again. If they were just a soft drink company they would have gone bankrupt by now.
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 May 2, 8:23am
fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 May 2, 8:23am
It's a lager, shouldn't taste like either of those as they're both stouts. Don't let the color fool you...
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Tenpoundbass
2023 May 2, 8:35am
Tenpoundbass
2023 May 2, 8:35am
I realize that but Lager can be a big word with lots of flavors and style.
Budweiser, Stella and Heineken are three Lagers I wouldn't drink with your mouth.
I'm drooling over all of these Czech and German lagers.
https://renegadebrewing.com/lager-beer/
Budweiser, Stella and Heineken are three Lagers I wouldn't drink with your mouth.
I'm drooling over all of these Czech and German lagers.
https://renegadebrewing.com/lager-beer/
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 May 2, 9:41am
fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 May 2, 9:41am
Sure, styles can vary widely, but in Lagers I think they tend to stay pretty true. Comparatively I've had IPA's with zero bitterness, and on nitro they lose all their bite, really weird.
That list I think takes some liberties with their categorization. A Helles tastes much different than an average lager. Forgot about IPL's, Ballast Point had a good one(Fathom), before they got bought out.
That list I think takes some liberties with their categorization. A Helles tastes much different than an average lager. Forgot about IPL's, Ballast Point had a good one(Fathom), before they got bought out.
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 May 3, 9:01am
fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 May 3, 9:01am
Bleeding continues for Anhuser as Bud Light has now dropped over a quarter in profits compared to April 2022. This may not seem that important, but does everyone realize we have the potential to shutter one of the largest corporations in America because we disagree with their values? I've been railing on this point for a while here on patnet. How you live your life matters! Not how you vote once every 2 or 4 years, but how you LIVE!
More powerful than standing armies, central banks, corrupt governments is the will of the people. We will ALWAYS outnumber them, we will always have the final say.
Bud Light is a start. Now are you ready to change the world?
More powerful than standing armies, central banks, corrupt governments is the will of the people. We will ALWAYS outnumber them, we will always have the final say.
Bud Light is a start. Now are you ready to change the world?
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WookieMan
2023 May 3, 11:18am
WookieMan
2023 May 3, 11:18am
NuttBoxer says
The money goes elsewhere. Likely to their other brands in their umbrella if you were already drinking Bud Light. Most people don't understand that large corporations own most beer brands, multiple.
Oh look, Busch has a fish on the can. I'll buy that. Same company.... People are morons. I'm not rooting for them but they'll be fine as other distractions come up. People forget.
Bud Light is a start. Now are you ready to change the world?
The money goes elsewhere. Likely to their other brands in their umbrella if you were already drinking Bud Light. Most people don't understand that large corporations own most beer brands, multiple.
Oh look, Busch has a fish on the can. I'll buy that. Same company.... People are morons. I'm not rooting for them but they'll be fine as other distractions come up. People forget.
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Patrick
2023 May 3, 12:49pm
Patrick
2023 May 3, 12:49pm
https://notthebee.com/article/this-kind-of-collapse-has-never-occurred-in-history-bud-light-sales-have-plummeted-beyond-what-anyone-thought-possible
Bud Light decided to back a dangerous, indefensible, destructive ideology. They did it by picking one of the most intolerable and unlikable practitioners of this awful stuff. It's no great shock that people revolted against it.
Fortunately, it was enough people to send a message like this. As Beer Business Daily put it:
We've never seen such a dramatic shift in national share in such a short period of time.
Call me crazy, but I don't think we're done yet!
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 May 3, 9:44pm
fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 May 3, 9:44pm
WookieMan says
Nope! All Anhuser sales are down, while Miller and Coors sales are up. Busch was specifically mentioned as one of those down brands.
The money goes elsewhere. Likely to their other brands in their umbrella if you were already drinking Bud Light. Most people don't understand that large corporations own most beer brands, multiple.
Oh look, Busch has a fish on the can. I'll buy that. Same company.... People are morons. I'm not rooting for them but they'll be fine as other distractions come up. People forget.
Nope! All Anhuser sales are down, while Miller and Coors sales are up. Busch was specifically mentioned as one of those down brands.
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I suggest Becks or St Paulie Girl, as both of those are under $12 a 12 pack these days. Where has Butwiper has been pushing the boundaries to how much they could charge for their Cultural Grog. I wouldn't mind seeing Shiner Boc become a huge national brand with a wider distribution than it currently has. Though when I do find it at the Publix here in South Florida, it's around $10.99 or more, for a 6pack. Even Guiness is a dollar cheaper than that on average.
I heard some chime in telling everyone to support their local craft beer brewers. I have never EVER had one single beer from a craft brewer that tasted anything like a old traditional beer recipe. And that's very important to me. I don't want off tastes, and hints of herbs, berries, citrus, or your Xer's vag yeast. Whart ever the fuck they put in there!
The problem I have with local craft beers, they have no respect for the traditional tried and true methods, and just brew a proper Lager, Pilsner, Ale, or Stout. They always have some untraditional ingredients in there, that makes it taste like crap, while they give a cute flavor name, which taste nothing like they suggest. Plus you can factor a good 40% of the cost of their beer goes into their packaging and marketing efforts. They claim they are craft beers, but they are trying like hell to be a major distributor at the expense of not focusing on a product worthy of such hullabaloo. And if I'm at a one more party and there's nothing left in the beer cooler but 9 seltzer fizzy beer, or sour IPAs in the cooler. I'm going loose my mind. Who brings these nasty beers, then proceeds to drink the hosts honest real beers? Nobody likes your soda beer, and IPA leave that crap at home. Who ever is doing that!