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DeficitHawk says

WookieMan says

Send them back to Africa?

I mean a constitutionally compliant way. People can leave if they want, but no one can be forced.

You could definitely say to any convicted criminal: "Hey, if you secure citizenship of another country, renounce your citizenship of USA and agree to move with an understanding that you won't be granted a visa to visit, we will give you $50,000 parting gift."

Maybe some would take it. Maybe you could open that offer to everyone in the country, and let anyone who doesn't want to be here leave.

Maybe some would take it. I don't know.

I'm more interested in understanding why that group didn't melt into the melting pot, and understand if that can be changed.

Good God Libby (that’s what you called yourself btw), let them in for free. Pay them if the “want” to leave. This is libtard thinking.

DeficitHawk says

They already agree it's a problem. They just misattribute the root cause of the problem to systemic racism in policing and other externally applied racism factors to 'excuse' the problem behaviors... "It's not their fault, society made them do it" . So they come up with misguided solutions like defund the police.

It would be better to understand why they didn't melt into the melting pot like everyone else and try to fix that.

You will never get it. You think you can fix humanity. Diversity will not work. Ever.

Glock-n-Load says

Good God Libby (that’s what you called yourself btw), let them in for free. Pay them if the “want” to leave. This is libtard thinking.

I don't really understand what you are saying.

Are you proposing race based forced banishment of citizens to other countries as the solution to crime?

I am a Libby because I don't think that's the right answer

DeficitHawk says

The biggest barriers for melting have been dismantled

The biggest barrier to black assimilation is their continuous violent assaults on everyone else, and each other.

No one wants to live anywhere near that kind of violence.

Black Violence Matters!

So, Patrick, do you have a policy proposal to fix it?

DeficitHawk says

So, Patrick, do you have a policy proposal to fix it?

Let Good God-fearing black people call out the criminal element and disavow them.

Kind of like in Monty Python, "Bring out your niggers . . . "

To me, the default option is to apply law enforcement uniformly regardless of race, and wait for the melting pot effect to work

I'm asking if anyone has ideas to accelerate the melting pot effect.

stereotomy says

Let Good God-fearing black people call out the criminal element and disavow them.

How would you propose to make this happen more than it does today?

Patrick says

So black people are allowed to rape, rob, and murder whites and Asians so that blacks will support the elite Democrats

We had most of the right answer in the 90s and 2000s before Obama.

Three strikes, the third felony in a short time = prison for at least a decade or so, get them off the street.

Now it's the opposite, like the crazed stabber who was arrested, what, 12 times? Several were felonies.

Obama used Broward County Schools as the model now prevalent in all Blue Hells: Don't bother with misdemeanors, 'creative' punishments for felonies downgraded to misdemeanors (community service bullshit, anger management, coun$eling by gov-paid NGOs, etc.) , no bail.

It's not just 2nd chances, it's that it takes like 3 felonies and a dozen ignored misdemeanors before criminals get a 2nd chance for the 3rd felony they actually got arrested for

Broken Window > 2nd Chances

DeficitHawk says

To me, the default option is to apply law enforcement uniformly regardless of race, and wait for the melting pot effect to work

I'm asking if anyone has ideas to accelerate the melting pot effect.

stereotomy says

Let Good God-fearing black people call out the criminal element and disavow them.

How would you propose to make this happen more than it does today?

What do you mean by “uniformily”? Continue to ignore race?

Glock-n-Load says

What do you mean by “uniformily”?

In all neighborhoods, without regard for race.

Glock-n-Load says

Diversity will not work. Ever.

Multiple (suppressed) studies have shown exactly this.

DeficitHawk says

Glock-n-Load says

What do you mean by “uniformily”?

In all neighborhoods, without regard for race.

Regardless of where the crime is?

DemoralizerOfPanicans says

Three strikes, the third felony in a short time = prison for at least a decade or so, get them off the street.

It's reasonable to do this, but I don't think it solves the root of the problem. It gets criminals off the street after they commit multiple crimes. It does not prevent new criminals from forming.

Treating the symptoms is a must, I agree. But what will fix the root cause?

Robert Sproul says

Glock-n-Load says

Diversity will not work. Ever.

Multiple (suppressed) studies have shown exactly this.

Oh come on. No one worries about crime from indians or Asians. They have different backgrounds and skin color. It's not diversity that causes the problem. The problem a subset of the population that isn't melting in, and runs a parallel society that doesn't adhere to the same values as the rest of society

Glock-n-Load says

Regardless of where the crime is?

Not regardless of where crime is.

I mean don't try to use race as a reason to under patrol areas with black people, based on a misguided belief that policing is harmful to those communities.

Patrick says

For the most part though, they're killing other blacks. Sucks for humanity as it's sick, but at some point blacks need to drop the culture bull shit. Grow up, pull your pants up, mainly be a good dad and raise your kids not to be thugs.

I have 5-1/2 years left of my parental responsibility. No issues. Good grades. Good athletes. I have one massive flaw and that didn't prevent me from being a good dad. Black men have to want kids, not just fuck and run. The problem is they didn't have dads so they don't know what they're doing. And the cycle keeps going of crime and fatherless boys. And moms need to tell their daughters to shut their vagina.

Having worked on the south and west side of Chicago I've seen it all. Not going to rant about it, but I had clients call the police before on tenants for parenting and landlord for condition of property. Black neighborhoods.

DeficitHawk says

Robert Sproul says

Glock-n-Load says

Diversity will not work. Ever.

Multiple (suppressed) studies have shown exactly this.

Oh come on. No one worries about crime from indians or Asians. They have different backgrounds and skin color. It's not diversity that causes the problem. The problem a subset of the population that isn't melting in, and runs a parallel society that doesn't adhere to the same values as the rest of society

That’s any culture from outside. Point is pot isn’t melting, it’s just replacing. Bring in million Indians, it’ll become India. Our self serving corporations do exactly that.

Not sure if this is real data.

KgK one says

Not sure if this is real data.

Probably correct. However, there was a modifier of "men" that was added. It's usually left out for stats dealing with Black crime.

Misc says

KgK one says

Not sure if this is real data.

Probably correct. However, there was a modifier of "men" that was added. It's usually left out for stats dealing with Black crime.

Also, how many of them are "White Hispanics."

https://x.com/bumbadum14/status/1978207229406036241

The reason why this type of behavior happens all the time is because in 2014 Obama threatened to nuke any school in the country that called the police on black criminal behavior.

They called it the "school to prison pipeline" and his admin threatened to not only force the DOE to withdraw funding from any school that had black kids being apprehended by police but also file title IV and VI suits against them.

I watched the effect of these policies first hand, by the time I was a senior in HS I personally witnessed stabbings, beatings, drug deals, white kids getting jumped in the hallway, and much more all in a "good school".

I think one of the most horrifying things I witnessed was my junior year where a girl had her head repeatedly slammed into a locker by a black kid and was rolled out of the school on a stretcher. The black who did that was back in class 3 days later.

One of my friends' mom was in the admin and she told my mom that they couldn't report the latest fight to the police because if they did and the kid was arrested and sent to juvi then the school would likely lose their funding.

Most schools STILL TO THIS DAY operate like this even with Trump in office and a new DOE because all the local admin is used to it now.

They wont enforce against blacks because it's now been a decade of the threat, even if it isn't credible anymore, that the school will be obliterated if they dare call the police on a black kid.

Gangs. White parents need to teach their children about how to organize a gang and beat up blacks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African-American_Muslims

Prison conversions to Islam
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Main article: Conversion to Islam in U.S. prisons
Conversion to Islam is a practice which is common to African-Americans in prison. J. Michael Waller found that Muslim inmates comprise 17–20% of the prison population, or roughly 350,000 inmates in 2003. Waller states that these inmates mostly come into prison as non-Muslims. According to him, 80% of the prisoners who "find faith" while in prison convert to Islam.[52] These converted inmates are mostly African American, with a small but growing Hispanic minority. Waller also asserts that many converts are radicalized by outside Islamist groups linked to terrorism, but other experts suggest that when radicalization does occur it has little to no connection with these outside interests.

Looks like half of AA are Muslims who can’t coexist with "kafir" (or kāfir)/disbeliever/non-believer. Hope this phenomenon explains why there is a constant violence in their communities like everywhere in the world. If the above observation is right, most of them will become jihadists and impose sharia law eventually if their population grows.

Fortwaye says

That’s any culture from outside. Point is pot isn’t melting, it’s just replacing. Bring in million Indians, it’ll become India. Our self serving corporations do exactly that.

The pot is melting fine. Indian immigrants who choose to come to USA already have a mindset to like our system of laws and opportunity. Immigrants retain a lot of their home culture. The kids of immigrants are culturally more like Americans than the country their parents came from. After a couple generations, there's really no difference culturally, and these people are not a source of elevated crime.

The crime problem is specific to a sub community of black people who are not well integrated into American culture, economy and value systems.

Why is that and what can be done to improve the outcome?

Those are the questions worth discussing. Not complaining without any productive suggestion.

KgK one says

Not sure if this is real data.

That's data for the gross number of crimes, not per capita by race. There are more white people than blacks. Per capita it's likely far worse for blacks being only 13% of the population. You can't just do stats that way. Gotta be honest.

Also don't put a footnote in the post that you're not sure if it's real data. That's lazy if trying to prove a point. No link it's bull shit. Even then 50/50 it's bull shit.

https://x.com/TheOnlyDSC/status/1985022706274750965

A father was taking his daughter trick r’ treating when a group of blacks robbed him at gunpoint.

https://x.com/hodgetwins/status/1985452152761041314






Fuentes is absolutely right about this.

Black Crime Matters. That's what BLM kept ignoring, as if everyone is avoiding black neighborhoods out of some incomprehensible "racism" instead of legitimate fear for their lives.

Until we can openly talk about black crime, nothing will improve.

My black coworker told me the first thing he told the realtor was that he didn't want to live near blacks.

https://x.com/xwanyex/status/1984634103619084706/

One thing that the neoliberal technological solution enjoyers will never understand about ordinary people’s feelings about crime, is that if Guy A gets his package stolen off his porch, but Guy B doesn’t because he checks the door every 15 minutes to see if the Amazon driver has arrived and diligently removes the package from the porch before anyone has a chance to see that it’s there and take it, and Guy C has to drive across town to an Amazon locker because he’s tired of dealing with it — these are all the same outcome.

Only one of these things shows up as a property crime.

But all three of them are the same outcome.

You have to kill the package thief or put him in prison for a million years or somehow get him to stop being a threat.

You literally cannot address the problem just by preventing the theft. That’s not a win. Nobody cares.

You have to take away the threat.

What you have to understand about our evolved psychology is that we don’t like being around the threat of interpersonal violence. It’s not just that we don’t like the violence itself. It’s not just that we are unhappy when an actual instance of violence spawns into the world.

We don’t like being around the threat of interpersonal violence.

This is why you can’t just give everybody food stamps and then celebrate the negligible statistical effect that it has on crime rates.

Everybody living around those people who would have committed the crimes you prevented can see that the people they were worried about before are still a threat. So they still don’t want to be around them. Which means that the neighborhoods they live in are still going to be undesirable.

People aren’t responding in their daily lives to actual instances of violence, for the most part. Most of us don’t get murdered. We’re responding to the threat of interpersonal violence. We make decisions about where to travel, where to live, where to visit based on the perceived threat.

You can’t just make number go down. You can’t just move things around, coerce this guy over here, pay off that guy over here, introduce this or that technological solution and proclaim victory.

Because none of that addresses the *threat*, which remains.

This is also why urbanists who say silly things like, “I’ve lived in the city for five years and I’ve never been murdered, checkmate quivering conservatives” reveal themselves to be totally clueless.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/11/horror-crazed-man-stabs-woman-chest-unprovoked-attack/

Crazed BLACK Man Stabs Woman in the Chest in Unprovoked Attack at Chicago Train Station



A crazed BLACK man stabbed a 27-year-old woman in the chest in an unprovoked attack on a train platform on Saturday night in the 400 block of S. Halsted Street.

“On November 8, 2025, at approximately 11:14 p.m. The above pictured BLACK subject produced a large knife from his backpack while on the platform, approached a female seated on a bench on the platform, and stabbed the female causing her to sustain a laceration to the chest,” Chicago PD said in a community alert.

“The unknown BLACK male subject then left the property walking northbound on S. Morgan St,” the police said.

The unidentified BLACK suspect is still at large.

I added BLACK to help compensate for the decades of the corporate media's deliberate refusal to report the race of BLACK assailants, who are statistically far more likely than any other demographic to commit assault.

We need to have a national conversation about BLACK violence, because you cannot fix what you cannot even talk about.

https://yuribezmenov.substack.com/p/escape-from-new-york-2025-zohrantifada

Data never lies. ~3% of the population commits ~50% of the violent crime in the US, and that protected class votes ~90% Democrat. Asians are ~100x more likely to be on the receiving end of violence from the protected class than the other way around. ~90% of attacks on Jews in NYC have been perpetrated from the protected class, which plays the “knockout game” on them. To blame white supremacy is a farce. Asians and Jews are well aware of the patterns, which explains why their neighborhoods have become Republican bastions. The media is shocked that the gaslighting hasn’t worked.

Asian and Jew neighborhoods are republican? That’s news to me.

https://x.com/VladTheInflator/status/1996609601849151957

In Chicago, pointing out who is literally murdering people is now racist and citizens who point it out should be avoided.

But it remains true.

BLACK VIOLENCE is Chicago's main problem.

BLACK BLACK BLACK

Accusations of "racism" don't work against the truth anymore.