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gun violence is statistically insignificant


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2023 May 25, 9:26pm   917 views  18 comments

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In 2021 102,000 people died from drug overdose (poisoning) , 47,000 in car accidents, and only in gun-related homicides 21,000.
https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/all-injuries/deaths-by-demographics/sex-age-and-cause/
https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/home-and-community/safety-topics/guns/

The media establishment (e.g. NPR) focuses only on the gun-related topics and not on the most accurate issues. This behavior shows that the corporate media are adversaries to the nation.

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1   indc   2023 May 25, 9:35pm  

Drug overdose will kill users.
Car accidents are inevitable. We cannot live without cars.
Gun-homicides can be prevented if there are no guns.

How are these equivalent?
2   Onvacation   2023 May 25, 10:44pm  

indc says

Gun-homicides can be prevented if there are no guns.

And knife homicides can be prevented if we have no knifes. Get rid of rocks and rock murder will be history.
3   yawaraf   2023 May 26, 3:21am  

indc says

We cannot live without cars.


indc you seem to argue that cars are necessary, therefore we must accept the collateral damage that they bring.

I would argue that guns are also necessary and therefore we must accept that some people will use guns to commit crimes. There are evil people from whom we need to defend ourselves. For example, in case of a home invasion, are guns not necessary so that the homeowner can protect himself and his family?
4   DhammaStep   2023 May 26, 3:59am  

indc says

Gun-homicides can be prevented if there are no guns.

Another person that has never opened a single history book in their life.
5   indc   2023 May 26, 2:11pm  

Onvacation says

indc says


Gun-homicides can be prevented if there are no guns.

And knife homicides can be prevented if we have no knifes. Get rid of rocks and rock murder will be history.


Do you have any statistics on how many homicides happen because of knifes. Or rocks?
6   indc   2023 May 26, 2:15pm  

yawaraf says

indc says


We cannot live without cars.


indc you seem to argue that cars are necessary, therefore we must accept the collateral damage that they bring.

I would argue that guns are also necessary and therefore we must accept that some people will use guns to commit crimes. There are evil people from whom we need to defend ourselves. For example, in case of a home invasion, are guns not necessary so that the homeowner can protect himself and his family?


I agree. My concern always is with AR's. If someone can give statistics separating AR and handguns I would accept it.
7   indc   2023 May 26, 2:17pm  

DhammaStep says

indc says


Gun-homicides can be prevented if there are no guns.

Another person that has never opened a single history book in their life.


I dont know what you mean. But I want to say history is filled with barbarians.
8   Onvacation   2023 May 26, 2:19pm  

indc says

Do you have any statistics on how many homicides happen because of knifes. Or rocks?

No. But there would be a lot more knife and rock murders if we had no guns 'cause murderers are going to murder.

"An armed society is a polite society." Robert A. Heinlein
9   yawaraf   2023 May 26, 3:30pm  

What are AR's?
10   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2023 May 26, 3:42pm  

yawaraf says

What are AR's?


actuarial resemblance
11   clambo   2023 May 26, 5:01pm  

Another little known factoid from the CDC: 12,000 people a year die from falling down stairs.

I thought that only happened on Alfred Hitchcock, Twilight Zone, etc.

As for myself, I am not going to live in a place where I have to climb stairs, no thanks.

Off the subject; how many guys are nagged to death?
12   richwicks   2023 May 26, 5:26pm  

yawaraf says


What are AR's?


It's part of the brandname ARmalite. Nearly all their guns are "AR" something.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ArmaLite#(ArmaLite,_Inc._1996%E2%80%93present)
14   goofus   2023 May 26, 6:15pm  

indc says


Drug overdose will kill users.
Car accidents are inevitable. We cannot live without cars.
Gun-homicides can be prevented if there are no guns.

How are these equivalent?


Mexico and Brazil both have strict gun control and far higher homicide rates than the US, even with our gang violence. The US also suffers from open borders with a narco-cartel state, which smuggles weapons, drugs, and humans (some voluntarily, some not) to our cities. How can one have any discussion of gun control in the midst of millions of migrants and materials crossing the border? The laws would impact only the law-abiding, at a time when police have stepped down efforts to stop crime. Sounds like a great way to become a statistic.
15   Reality   2023 May 26, 7:37pm  

indc says


DhammaStep says


indc says


Gun-homicides can be prevented if there are no guns.

Another person that has never opened a single history book in their life.



I dont know what you mean. But I want to say history is filled with barbarians.



Of all people, Indians (and many other populations that have a long history of living around the periphery of Eurasian continent) should have known that governments are often run by barbarians; e.g. in the case of Indian subcontinent, the Vedic barbarians over-running the civilized people of Hrappa.

"Gun-homicides can be prevented if there are no guns" How do you propose to disarm all governments of the world? So long as there are people who are willing/eager to follow orders, especially follow orders in order to get paid or get promotions, gun ownership can not be monopolized by "the government," which is usually staffed by disproportionally Narcissistic people. The military and the police members have 16x higher percentage of diagonosed Narcissistic Personality Disorders than the civilian population. It was not a co-incidence that shortly after Germans were disarmed, the Nazi and Gestapo no longer feared getting shot when they invaded people's homes and threw grandpas off the staircases; it was not a co-incidence that shortly after the Soviet citizens were disarmed, their government rolled out gulags; it was not a co-incidence that shortly after the Chinese government disarmed their citizens, their government fell to communists. A society that puts premium on "education" and credentials is not capable of defending itself against barbarians through government channels alone, as their governments usually become highly corrupt and inefficient (just look at the police stand-downs and kneeling to criminals during BLM riots); an armed citizenry becomes necessary as the last bulwark against barbarians.

Governments taken over and run by barbarians in the 20th century alone (usually in the form of "communists" and "national socialists," both were agents sponsored by bankers bent on killing account holders in order to avoid having to pay back the money) were responsible for more than 100 million deaths. That number is far greater than all the homicides carried out by private individuals.
16   HeadSet   2023 May 26, 8:18pm  

richwicks says

It's part of the brandname ARmalite. Nearly all their guns are "AR" something.

Armalite Rifle
17   tomtomtom   2023 May 26, 9:22pm  

The striking growth of death from overdose is thanks to the prescription opioids. The Government and the established media know about it but the lobbying dollars are just so sweet.
18   Al_Sharpton_for_President   2023 Jul 23, 6:06pm  

An interesting perspective on gun violence and gun control:

Out of 193 countries, the United States is #3 in gun violence numbers.

However:

If you exclude the 5 U.S. cities with the most gun violence—-

St. Louis, Detroit, Los Angeles, Philadelphia, and Chicago—

all “blue” cities with very strict gun control laws —

Then the USA drops to number 189 in gun violence.

Which just goes to prove that before you can begin to solve a problem…..

…. you have to understand what the problem is.

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