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richwicks says

I pointed out that the government was lying, relentlessly.

After it was already happening. And you did not stop, or even slow the war down. They started it and ended it based on their timelines. Your contribution was insignificant.richwicks says

What you are experiencing now, is overtaking the gerontocracy in knowledge and information. Are you just realizing our "leaders" have no fucking idea what they are doing, and just follow orders? Poor you. We will disseminate information infinitely and if they try to stop us, point to point, end to end encryption.

Who is we agent Epps?

My people have known since the 60’s the official narrative is lies, that world is run by globalists who influence corporations and governments to do their bidding. I grew up realizing this. The leaders though absolutely do know what they are doing. They know they are fundamentally changing our world to be antichrist and you are helping them. Congratulations. I hope you don’t have to live under the system you are building.

PeopleUnited says

After it was already happening. And you did not stop, or even slow the war down. They started it and ended it based on their timelines. Your contribution was insignificant

They weren't able to gin of the Syrian war, 1/2 the country realizes that ISIS is just a US proxy now, and that the US was arming Al-Qaeda. They no longer have the power to lie with impunity. I mean, they still lie, but it's debunked in minutes.

Remember the "white supremacist" that tried to attack the White House in a U-Haul van? All charges against him were dropped, I wonder if he was a Fed? Gee, is Ray Epps a Fed? Narratives and propaganda are destroyed within DAYS despite Facebook, Twitter, and Google being censored. Narratives on "the news" no longer have an effect. Agent provocateurs are identified in days, sometimes only in hours. People didn't believe they even existed 15 years ago.

PeopleUnited says

Who is we agent Epps?

Oh, we have no formal connection, not even informal. I don't know how many people are like me. It's between maybe 100,000 people and a million? in the United States.

Every now and then, I run across somebody who has similar knowledge that I do who want to propagate knowledge. We really are ships passing the night, we don't generally connect but we'll end up talking briefly. They know that Ukraine was overthrown for example, and they, just like me, can demonstrate this is true. Sometimes they know more than I do, or less, sometimes our knowledge has little overlap, so I can't always recognize them. You don't have to have security clearance to know what is going on now. I knew, for example, in 2005 that the NSA had infiltrated Google.. Around that year, I forget, it's been a long time ago. I couldn't prove it, but it was widely known, at least here. Snowden later exposed this, but I knew before he did, I just couldn't prove it.

There's a real effort to educate the public and I'm certainly not the only one. People in the know pass around recommendations and tips on what to look for and who to listen to and who to read, where to look. Do you think I'd know who Dr. Money, David and Brian Reimer were if somebody hadn't told me first?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Money#Sex_reassignment_of_David_Reimer

There's the god of our current "gender" bullshit. He's maybe not the origin, but he's the most influential, he was a nutcase. All this LGBTQ bullshit (I think the new acronym is LGBTQ2+ (it's impossible to keep up with, even the weirdos promoting this "inclusion" can't keep up with it) was championed by him. He was a highly emotionally damaged individual, who was arrogant, and basically anti-human. His faith trumped his reasoning, his faith that men were by nature evil.

PeopleUnited says

My people have known since the 60’s the official narrative is lies, that world is run by globalists who influence corporations and governments to do their bidding. I grew up realizing this. The leaders though absolutely do know what they are doing. They know they are fundamentally changing our world to be antichrist and you are helping them. Congratulations.

In your religion, who is the Prince of Lies?

I don't see how exposing lies works in the favor of the globalists, or the current power structures, since they create them.

The expectation we had back in the 1990's, that if we could ONLY show that the government was lying through, for example, Nayirah al-Ṣabaḥ, to start the first war in Iraq, that the government would stop doing this, and have to make actual justifications for wars. The same of the Gulf of Tonkin, even Pearl Harbor, if just the majority of the population knew, they would resist. I feel badly for the people in the 1970 that had my mindset. How helpless do you think they felt knowing kids were being drafted to fight in Vietnam when the US faked a torpedo attack to star the war? There had to be people like me back then.

Well at first, we didn't know at the offset how few of us there were, but we're growing. There's no doubt we're growing. There are 20 year old kids that can rattle off government conspiracies as well as I can. The propaganda system is breaking down. US "news" is entirely untrusted. The Kyle Rittenhouse case blew up in their face, I feel badly for Derek Chauvin being falsely imprisoned, but we have the full bodycam footage, and that will NEVER go away. January 6th has already been exposed but people insist on the "official footage", which isn't needed, everybody has cameras, and there are 1000's of people that recorded the events of that day.

Storage is cheap, cameras are small. I can buy a pair of glasses with a video camera embedded in it, that will be able to record all day without a charge.

https://www.amazon.com/Camera-Glasses-Eyewear-Recording-Bluetooth/dp/B09YHH5423/ref=psdc_12909791_t1_B07F2MV9ZR

Can you tell that's a recording device by just looking at them? If we had the technology of today on November 22, 1963, the public would have known that the US news media lied, immediately, they would know that the Warren Investigation was bullshit. It's a lot harder for the government to get away with crimes today, than it was 60 years ago.

Is this a bad thing?

I don't think so, but now they are trying to resort to intimidation tactics:



30 years ago, it felt DANGEROUS to expose a government lie, and maybe it was. Today, we're starting to laugh at them. There's too many of us. Even if I stop doing this or am stopped, it won't make a difference. I think we're beyond critical mass, well beyond it, and I owe a lot of credit to Trump in that he demonstrated our media will just fucking lie. I knew before, but I didn't appreciate to what extent and uniformity they will do this. Well, millions do now. Find that Russian Collusion yet? Nobody will report on the Durham Report, but the majority of Americans no longer get their information from "reliable sources".

That's the whole purpose of this network. No gatekeepers. Gatekeepers protect criminals, they don't protect the good.

There is NO WAY I would know about much as I do now if not for the Internet. Sure there are drawbacks to this technology, but we'll surmount them. We're a resilient species.

don’t care much. but it is fact that our media is full of shit about this war. i truly despise media, they lie, manipulate, fool. faggots.

richwicks says

They weren't able to gin of the Syrian war,

But they sure were able to gain support for the Ukraine fiasco.

richwicks says

They no longer have the power to lie with impunity. I mean, they still lie, but it's debunked in minutes.

Umm, they still claim the 2020 and 2022 elections were the most secure elections ever. And most people believe that BS. It doesn’t matter if you debunk it, if people don’t listen to it.

I can tell you exactly how to know for certain that you are a bought and paid for child of God, but if you won’t listen to the Gospel it will not bear any fruit in you. That is where most people are at, they might hear the truth but they won’t take it to heart. So they don’t change, and the truth is trodden under foot and forgotten or vilified.richwicks says

Narratives and propaganda are destroyed within DAYS despite Facebook, Twitter, and Google being censored.

Covid narrative, Ukraine Narrative, global warming narrative, J6 narrative, DEI/white privilege narrative, they are all alive and well. The deception is more prevalent today, and the lies more egregious today than ever.richwicks says

Storage is cheap, cameras are small. I can buy a pair of glasses with a video camera embedded in it, that will be able to record all day without a charge.

Let’s say someone snuck into Epstein island or some place like that, recorded some crime or atrocity perpetrated by globalist shills, and then posted it on the internet. It would be instantly discredited, labeled a deep fake and cast aside as the work of extremists. The problem is not that people don’t know the truth, it’s that they refuse to/are cowed into not believing what they see and hear.

richwicks says

There is NO WAY I would know about much as I do now if not for the Internet.

Information sharing is a good thing, as long as the information is good. Most of it is not.

And so while the internet allows people to see and know things they never could have, the majority of it is counterproductive. Worse than that it is full of gatekeepers and trackers. And ultimately they will begin to restrict access to only those who fall in line with the narrative. It is inevitable that totalitarians will take down any counter narrative sources and punish those who perpetrate and adhere to anything but the official narrative. Why is it inevitable? Because they can do it, that is why. They cannot be stopped.

You mentioned encryption in a previous post. It is a noble thought, but there is no way to hide from their surveillance. Sure you can share messages with those who have the key, but the message is still traceable, even if it cannot be understood.

(This is a different topic but did you know that the Word of God is encrypted? To most people it is gibberish, foolishness or worse. But that is because they are missing the key. Only God can even give you the desire to understand it, and lead you to repent. The Spirit of God is the key. For some reason though most people are not even interested in the key, because they prefer their sin over the free gift of salvation)

You said in another thread that AI and programming now days is based on evolution. That is interesting, but it is not exactly true. The source code for all evolutionary changes is written by the creator. So any model based on evolution is based on the creation, the design of the Creator!

The creation is amazing, we even see parallel adaptations from different kinds of animals. A platypus and a duck both developed bills and webbed feet, yet one is a mammal and the other a bird. The source code from the creator provided the means for each creature to adapt to similar available niches while still remaining the same kind of animals. The ducks offspring and ancestors will always be birds. The platypus’ offspring and ancestors will always be mammals. That cannot change, because creation was an event. Every thing that was created retains the blueprint from its creator and will until it is created anew or destroyed by the Creator.

We are a resilient species, but we cannot achieve our true potential apart from our Creator.

He promised that His Spirit will not always strive with man (Genisis 6:3), but that He desires that all men and women come to Him for salvation (1 Timothy 2:4)

That is the truth that every person needs to hear. And the most important reason to keep the internet free.

In conclusion: if your source of "unfiltered truth" is a stupid cunt who hasn't been right about anything ever and still lacks self-reflection to stop going on teevee and embarass himself over and over again, your rants about unfairness of the world are completely justified. The world IS hostile to low-IQ individuals.

RWSGFY says

McGregor in interview with Fox news on Feb 27, 2022:

"The battle in eastern Ukraine is really almost over, all of the Ukrainian troops there have been largely surrounded and cut off. You have a concentration down in the Southeast of 30 or 40,000 of them, and if they don't surrender in the next 24 hours, I suspect Russia will ultimately annihilate them."

Col MacGregor, along with many others, underestimated the Ukrainian govt’s willingness to fling its men into a meat grinder. Russia expected Zelenskyy to come to the table, and asked at minimum five times, most recently with China as peace broker, for an agreement.

What MacGregor has consistently been right in, is the heavy losses Ukraine has suffered both civilian and militarily, and the idea that any peace would be better for the Ukrainian people than a slow moving, lethal juggernaut. Most recently we learned that Ukrainian military losses outnumber Russian by a 7:1 ratio and, including civilian deaths, nearly 200,000 Ukrainians have been killed in the first year of fighting.

When MacGregor says Ukraine is losing, he means as a people and a nation. Now Zelenskyy is meeting with our 4th branch of government, BlackRock, to sell Ukrainian farmland and mineral resources. Are they his to give? This is not a United States with millions of hectares of BLM land to lease. The land has had peasant farmers on it. But whoops, they’re all conscripted (men ages 16-60 are required), and the women sent abroad as refugees.

What a tragedy for the Ukrainian people to have this US puppet, now enriched beyond imagining, entrench the country in war “until the last Ukrainian.” In fact I think he means it literally. He of course not being ethnically Ukrainian, and of a group that served as commissars and Holodomor enforcers in the 1920s and 30s. There is no love from Jewish Ukrainians for the modern descendants of Cossacks.

PeopleUnited says

But they sure were able to gain support for the Ukraine fiasco.

I think there would have been more support if the Internet didn't exist.

PeopleUnited says

Umm, they still claim the 2020 and 2022 elections were the most secure elections ever. And most people believe that BS. It doesn’t matter if you debunk it, if people don’t listen to it.

The election in 2000 between Gore and Bush was most likely stolen. Gore probably actually won. I would argue many more people have stuck to their position this time around.

Notice I'm not partisan. I believe it's also possible that Kerry won in 2004. I'm quite confident Obama actually did win in 2008 and 2012. Neither John McCain nor Romney really tried to win. We had to switch to a Democrat Neocon to maintain credibility in the election system.

PeopleUnited says

Covid narrative, Ukraine Narrative, global warming narrative, J6 narrative, DEI/white privilege narrative, they are all alive and well. The deception is more prevalent today, and the lies more egregious today than ever

They are more obvious than ever. Cold War narrative, Vietnam narrative, Qaddafi narrative, Lebanon narrative, WWII narrative, they are almost completely accepted. The ones you listed, are 1/2 accepted, any narrative before 1990 is almost completely accepted. JFK's murder by the CIA is the only one I can think of that isn't.

PeopleUnited says

Let’s say someone snuck into Epstein island or some place like that, recorded some crime or atrocity perpetrated by globalist shills, and then posted it on the internet. It would be instantly discredited, labeled a deep fake and cast aside as the work of extremists. The problem is not that people don’t know the truth, it’s that they refuse to/are cowed into not believing what they see and hear.

I don't think there's many people that don't realize Epstein was intelligence working on behalf of Israel, Mi6, and some US intelligence agencies to blackmail politicians and business leaders. Prince Andrew is basically in disgrace now.

And of course anything coming out would be "discredited", but it wouldn't be discredited, it would be attacked, and people now think "I think the lady doth protest too much.."

PeopleUnited says

Information sharing is a good thing, as long as the information is good. Most of it is not.

I'd agree, but the more false and true information that is shared, the easier it is to recognize good information. There was no good information before 1990. The little tidbits you'd get was rare, and I remember what that was like. I remember when I first heard about MKUltra, everybody just dismissed it as a conspiracy theory. Well, it was in the Church Committee hearings of 1975. Operation Ajax and PBSuccess were called conspiracy theories until the late 1990s, and everybody thought that's what they were.

I am telling you though DIRECT experience we're getting a wiser population.

PeopleUnited says

And so while the internet allows people to see and know things they never could have, the majority of it is counterproductive. Worse than that it is full of gatekeepers and trackers. And ultimately they will begin to restrict access to only those who fall in line with the narrative.

No. The result of cracking down and trying to control the narrative allows people to instantly know what "the narrative" is. Fact checkers are propagandists, gatekeepers hide the truth, "Russian bots" are truth tellers, "reliable sources" are propagandists. Since Google, Facebook, and Twitter were censored, it's FAR easier to know what the government is lying about. If the "fact checkers" say that "the Hunter Biden laptop is Russian disinformation", they just told you it was true. That alone told you it was authentic.

PeopleUnited says

You mentioned encryption in a previous post. It is a noble thought, but there is no way to hide from their surveillance. Sure you can share messages with those who have the key, but the message is still traceable, even if it cannot be understood.

I don't think meta information can be hidden, that is, who you are talking to but you don't need a shared key. There are two methods, RSA and ECC. You can combine them as well to make them more complex to solve. Security is hard, meaning, you can understand it, come up with a "brilliant" implementation, only to find out that you make this LITTLE error, and severely compromised security. It takes a team, and my math isn't good enough to be an analyst in security. It's super hard.

PeopleUnited says

You said in another thread that AI and programming now days is based on evolution. That is interesting, but it is not exactly true. The source code for all evolutionary changes is written by the creator. So any model based on evolution is based on the creation, the design of the Creator!

Yes, this is true. Think of the start of a system as being abiogenesis. We have NO IDEA how life started, we just know it existed. I'm saying it doesn't matter how initial conditions formed, what matters is that it evolves from that point. Maybe the conditions to start life WAS created by some entity, could have been an alien species, but then how was THAT created? Say God created the initial conditions, but what created God? It's an endless series of questions. To me "God" as an explanation is "I don't know, but something had to do it", but ascribing a bunch of properties on this God, I think is wrong. We can't know if there's even a mind to a creator, or if it's just unfathomably intelligent.

Heck, we could all be computer simulations, that's in another computer simulation, that in another computer simulation, etc, etc, etc. There might be a BILLION levels to reality, or an infinite number. Maybe it's in every intelligent creature's makeup to create life, over and over and over again. Maybe intelligence is compelled to create intelligence. People can speculate all day, but that's it.

PeopleUnited says

The ducks offspring and ancestors will always be birds. The platypus’ offspring and ancestors will always be mammals.

"Bird" and "mammal", there are just human descriptions. In a billion years, a "bird" might not exist, a mammal might not even exist, but a descendant from one might.

You can't really say that the common ancestor of man and ape was "a monkey", it was neither.

Look at the design of a spider and dog. They are entirely different, maybe we had two entirely different starts of life, and that's why. Maybe 3? Who knows. I know I don't know and I never will.

I appreciate your faith, I share much of your morality (or at least stated morality). I just can't believe that the creator of all this creates all this life, man alone has a soul, and unless you suck up to God, he'll torture you for eternity. I can't think of anybody or anything I would torture eternally no matter what they did.

goofus says

What a tragedy for the Ukrainian people to have this US puppet, now enriched beyond imagining, entrench the country in war “until the last Ukrainian.” In fact I think he means it literally. He of course not being ethnically Ukrainian, and of a group that served as commissars and Holodomor enforcers in the 1920s and 30s. There is no love from Jewish Ukrainians for the modern descendants of Cossacks.

Yeah, that's pretty much what I think. I'm in complete agreement.

People who say "oh you have to support Ukraine" don't realize that by "supporting" Ukraine, they are helping destroy it. You want to support Ukraine? Broker a cease to hostilities as soon as possible. It's like "support the troops" - you want to do that - bring them home.

Everything is inverted. We bombed Libya to prevent a humanitarian crisis, and created one instead.

richwicks says

I think there would have been more support if the Internet didn't exist.

Like Zelenskiy would have been invited to speak to Congress twice instead of once, and we’d have blown up Nordstrom one and two?richwicks says

We had to switch to a Democrat Neocon

This was done to neuter the anti war crowd. The anti war crowd was always primarily democrats, by installing BHO they got to continue the wars unopposed, with popularity of the warmongering president. And the dipshit Dems were too busy fawning over their DEI President to realize he was just as big a warmonger as Bush.richwicks says

The ones you listed, are 1/2 accepted

The world turned on the narratives I mentioned. The narratives are still alive and policy and religious like following is pushing those narratives, they are being used to justify imprisonment, medical tyranny, famine, poverty, discrimination And eventually the antiGod narrative will result in genocide.
richwicks says

Epstein was intelligence working on behalf of Israel, Mi6, and some US intelligence agencies to blackmail politicians and business leaders.

It’s not blackmail, you got it backwards. The guys who spent time getting their jollies with Epstein were being “rewarded” for their faithful service to the globalists. Why else would they go back again and again? What did the deep state globalists gain by “blackmailing” and then discrediting Prince Andrew? Nothing, because that is not what happened. He simply was caught with his pants down and was too stupid to pivot the narrative. But the point is that that is what wealthy people do, they use others, including willing young women who should know better than to accept money for spending time with older men. The wealthy can buy and get whatever they want, and they sometimes reward heir faithful servants with filthy lucre like Epstein Island Jolies. The point was not to entrap and blackmail, it was to “reward” the people who already work for the deep state by providing a “service” to these scumbag despicable perverts we call politicians and business leaders, a service that was both illegal and unobtainable to law abiding normies. But none of them will ever be made an example of and Epstein was Epsteined just in case to make sure the true story of the service he provided never got out. Not blackmail, but perverted rewards for globalist collaborators, rewards they can’t get anywhere else. It like a drug to these bastards, they don’t need to be blackmailed, they are junkies to their own perversion.richwicks says

There was no good information before 1990

Yes there was, you just didn’t know it, weren’t looking for it or did not know anyone who could point you to it. I grew up reading excellent material and talking about the truth of what is going on in this world face to face with based individuals. Most of the stuff on the internet is not true, look at how many people believe in so many silly conspiracies (Biden is dead and body doubles do his public appearances for example) it is just ridiculous. The internet is just TV made accessible to the common person to become a content contributor, the most extreme click bait gets the attention and the advertising dollars that come with it. It’s all about money just like anything else. Patnet is one of the few places on the internet that is not about making money in any way shape or form (though clearly Patrick would like to make money, wouldn’t we all?) Don’t pretend the internet is more noble than TV, it is just the evolution of media.richwicks says

I am telling you though DIRECT experience we're getting a wiser population.

I work with the general public and the educated elites. I can tell you in no uncertain terms that while the common man has more common sense than the educated fools there is actually less capability to reason and decipher truth today than there was even 20 years ago. People are not wiser by any means. The narratives of today would have been laughed at as farces just a generation ago.richwicks says

No. The result of cracking down and trying to control the narrative allows people to instantly know what "the narrative" is.

Nope, it doesn’t work like that. It takes months or years before people realize they’ve been hoodwinked but by then it is too late. Biden “wins” and the globalists get their man in power.richwicks says

I don't think meta information can be hidden, that is, who you are talking to but you don't need a shared key.

That’s my point, they already know everything they need to know, and soon they will shut down anyone who dares counter the narrative. Even associating with those who counter the narrative will warrant punishment. Truth is treason in the empire of globalist lies.
richwicks says

To me "God" as an explanation is "I don't know, but something had to do it", but ascribing a bunch of properties on this God, I think is wrong.

To me saying “We can't know if there's even a mind to a creator, or if it's just unfathomably intelligent.
Heck, we could all be computer simulations, that's in another computer simulation, that in another computer simulation, etc, etc, etc. There might be a BILLION levels to reality, or an infinite number. Maybe it's in every intelligent creature's makeup to create life, over and over and over again. Maybe intelligence is compelled to create intelligence. People can speculate all day, but that's it.”
Is not just wrong it is deliberately ignorant. God tells us exactly who He is, what He has done and what He is going to do. There is no speculation. There is simply acceptance of what He says and living a life based on that acceptance, or rejecting of what He says and living a life based on some lie that will ultimately drown your soul in sorrow and hopelessness.

richwicks says

Maybe the conditions to start life WAS created by some entity,

Not maybe, absolutely. Maybe it happened just like God said it did in Genesis. What if everything He said is true?richwicks says

Who knows.

God knows, and He will tell you, if you will listen.richwicks says

I know I don't know and I never will.

What if you are wrong, and one day soon you will know all these thing and more?
richwicks says

I just can't believe that the creator of all this creates all this life, man alone has a soul, and unless you suck up to God, he'll torture you for eternity. I can't think of anybody or anything I would torture eternally no matter what they did.

That is a false narrative. The truth is that God created the entire universe, and He did so to put humans on the pedestal of this Creation. He gave humans freedom to rule the earth, with only one rule to obey. But humans broke that one rule, giving Satan temporary dominion over the Earth that should have been ruled by men who were in fellowship with God. Instead men broke their fellowship with God, and brought condemnation on themselves with their choice to sin. But even after men rejected God’s rule in favor of the lies of the Devil, again God showed His favor on man a second time by offering to pay the sin debt in place of every single person. God doesn’t ask us to suck up to Him to earn his favor, he offers the gift of forgiveness freely to all who will accept it. He didn’t tell us to earn it, He told us He earned it for us, we just need to receive it.

Did you ever wonder why God said to Adam that he would die if he ate of the forbidden fruit, but Adam didn’t die that day ?

PeopleUnited says

Like Zelenskiy would have been invited to speak to Congress twice instead of once, and we’d have blown up Nordstrom one and two?

More like 90% of people would support the Ukrainian war, and would be calling for direct US intervention. Nobody would know that the US overthrew Ukraine, Putin would be the devil incarnate, and a handful of people would know about Biden's involvement with Burisma, Viktor Shokin would be a completely unknown name.

PeopleUnited says

This was done to neuter the anti war crowd. The anti war crowd was always primarily democrats, by installing BHO they got to continue the wars unopposed, with popularity of the warmongering president. And the dipshit Dems were too busy fawning over their DEI President to realize he was just as big a warmonger as Bush.

I agree with this. The biggest accomplishment of Obama was to end the anti-war movement. He destroyed it.

PeopleUnited says

The world turned on the narratives I mentioned. The narratives are still alive and policy and religious like following is pushing those narratives, they are being used to justify imprisonment, medical tyranny, famine, poverty, discrimination

I'm pointing out there was no resistance before, there is now.

PeopleUnited says

It’s not blackmail, you got it backwards. The guys who spent time getting their jollies with Epstein were being “rewarded” for their faithful service to the globalists. Why else would they go back again and again? What did the deep state globalists gain by “blackmailing” and then discrediting Prince Andrew?

No I don't. It might be initiation for all I know. The nobility in England isn't powerless, they own like 1/2 the land. It's a double edged sword most likely. It's not like a prince needed somebody to help him get what he wanted.

PeopleUnited says

But the point is that that is what wealthy people do, they use others, including willing young women who should know better than to accept money for spending time with older men.

It's pretty simple to negotiate a deal with a young woman that "we'll make you rich, but you're going to do this, and if you speak up later, you're dead, and so is your family. This is the deal."

It's kind of perplexing they don't do this. Give a kid $100,000 - set them up financially, help them make good investments, and allow them to know what they are doing. It's weird they don't do this.

PeopleUnited says

Yes there was, you just didn’t know it, weren’t looking for it or did not know anyone who could point you to it. I grew up reading excellent material and talking about the truth of what is going on in this world face to face with based individuals.

Name such a source.

Today, we can freely share the information. I don't have to join the John Birch Society now IF they would allow me in.

PeopleUnited says

I work with the general public and the educated elites. I can tell you in no uncertain terms that while the common man has more common sense than the educated fools there is actually less capability to reason and decipher truth today than there was even 20 years ago. People are not wiser by any means. The narratives of today would have been laughed at as farces just a generation ago.

Oh? Gulf of Tonkin is no more ridiculous than weapons of mass destruction. Pearl Harbor is no more silly than the 9/11. The USS Liberty is not more silly than the downing of MH17.

PeopleUnited says

Nope, it doesn’t work like that. It takes months or years before people realize they’ve been hoodwinked but by then it is too late. Biden “wins” and the globalists get their man in power

JFK "won", he just didn't follow directions. George W. Bush "won" and he did. Neither was actually elected.

It may take months or years, it doesn't take decades anymore.

PeopleUnited says

Not maybe, absolutely. Maybe it happened just like God said it did in Genesis. What if everything He said is true?

What if it was just compiled by a bunch of men to create a control structure by enforcing a narrative on the pain of death to control the population?

I know it couldn't have happened just like it said in Genesis. I know Noah's ark couldn't be real if only because of the diversity of species we have, and pretty simple physics.

I don't want to argue religion. I don't want to strip your faith from you. If you persist, I will.

PeopleUnited says

That is a false narrative. The truth is that God created the entire universe, and He did so to put humans on the pedestal of this Creation

Here's an Eastern interpretation of "god".

God is in all things. Karma is the true nature of the universe. We are all aspects of God, every single living thing from bacteria to humanity, to every conceivable existence with even the smallest level of thought and we will exist as everything and everybody. Time is merely a human concept, I am you, you are me, your dog, your cat, the chicken you ate. Everything you harm, everything you help is merely an aspect of yourself, because we're all collectively God and the hope is we don't have to return to another life after our death and we can escape this cycle of life and death.

This is kind of a modern perversion of the idea:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantheism

It's a WESTERN religion, but it has heavy influence from the Dharmic religions. A Jain therefore adheres to ahisma, because non violence toward any living thing is the closest they can get to divinity, because harming anything ultimately harms themselves.

From my perspective, the Abrahamic religions are nothing more than a political system of control. Christianity was the successor to the Roman empire which broke up in the 16th century. My viewpoint is that if there is a religion, it's purposely shielded from us, and you don't have to become literate, and read a 1000 page book to attain something approaching divinity. IF it exists, it's innate within all of us and purposely hidden from us.

PeopleUnited says

Did you ever wonder why God said to Adam that he would die if he ate of the forbidden fruit, but Adam didn’t die that day ?

No, but I did wonder what it was called The Tree of Knowledge.

I also wondered if Satan, if he's the Great Deceiver, didn't write the Bible himself to depict God as a ruthless petty maniac in the Bible that tortured Job just to prove loyalty, or drown the world killing every man, woman, child, baby, fetus, dog, cat, puppy etc. except 7 of each clean animal and bird, and 2 of each unclean animal. Maybe, the Great Deceiver wrote the Bible to create evil, to lead man away from God and to enslave mankind?

I also wondered if the god of the old Testament was evil and the God of the New Testament was good? I wasn't alone in this though, one of the earliest heretical groups believed in this, and were all slaughtered in the early Inquisition.

I wondered why an all powerful, omnipotent GOOD God would decide to have his SON brutally tortured and killed, when he was omnipotent and therefore could make any condition He wanted to redeem mankind?

Then I began to wonder about evolutionary theory, evolutionary psychology, evolutionary programming, neural networks, if I was a meat robot, if a dog was a meat robot, if emotions were genuine, if it was moral to kill to eat since it wasn't strictly necessary, if a cow had emotional capacity, if love was merely an abstraction to reproduce, if reductionism wasn't true - that is if we're not merely machine to duplicate our GENES and not ourselves, blah blah blah blah.

THEN I began to wonder, what are the power structures on the planet, why does the government continually "get it wrong", why don't leaders assassinate other leaders, are tremendously successful people REALLY successful, or are they artificially promoted to that position, why don't the Democrats take advantage of a situation, or the Republicans if they really oppose one another, why are single mothers given more welfare than than married families..

I wonder a lot and I am satisfied with my conclusions. It goes way beyond religion.

My fear is pantheism is basically correct, that I will exist in some form or another, for eternity having to experience everything, everything, including what I oppose. I certainly want to experience nonexistence one day, eternal life, would be a true hell.

Did you know that the concept of Nirvana in Hinduism is NOT to be reincarnated? That's how different a concept religious goals are. That "bliss", is complete unawareness. That existence is just suffering, and that eternal peace means complete dissociation from any concept of existence.

richwicks says

I wondered why an all powerful, omnipotent GOOD God would decide to have his SON brutally tortured and killed, when he was omnipotent and therefore could make any condition He wanted to redeem mankind?

I think in the context of bronze/Iron Age religions, including Judaism, Jesus’ sacrifice fulfilled any further need for burnt offerings and effectively ended human sacrifice. From what I gather, sacrifices would come from a slave or low caste group, particularly their children. I suspect the widespread adoption of Christianity had something to do with avoiding this fate.

As an aside, I also suspect the Aztec practice of sacrificing ethnic outgroups had something to do with Cortez’s victory. A handful of ships and 200 men had no chance against 10’s of thousands — unless the underclass joined Cortez to overthrow their Aztec oppressors. Fun that now, descendants of Aztecs (and conquistadors) are granted special privileges to atone for white malfeasance.

goofus says

I think in the context of bronze/Iron Age religions, including Judaism, Jesus’ sacrifice fulfilled any further need for burnt offerings and effectively ended human sacrifice. From what I gather, sacrifices would come from a slave or low caste group, particularly their children. I suspect the widespread adoption of Christianity had something to do with avoiding this fate.

As an aside, I also suspect the Aztec practice of sacrificing ethnic outgroups had something to do with Cortez’s victory. A handful of ships and 200 men had no chance against 10’s of thousands — unless the underclass joined Cortez to overthrow their Aztec oppressors. Fun that now, descendants of Aztecs (and conquistadors) are granted special privileges to atone for white malfeasance.

I seriously don't want to argue religion anymore. I would have relished it 15 years ago.

I can pick the Christian religion apart, but it doesn't benefit anybody. It's like stealing a security blanket from a little kid. It's just mean to do. The religion has some decent aspects, at least they oppose transgendering little kids although that's not a direct aspect of the religion. They just put the breaks on a lot of "new" ideas and that's not often a bad thing.

More a wishful agnostic (sure would be nice to see loved ones again), but no, the historical context was just to understand why people then (in the first centuries AD) might have seen the sacrifice as the act of a loving god.

richwicks says

It's kind of perplexing they don't do this. Give a kid $100,000 - set them up financially, help them make good investments, and allow them to know what they are doing. It's weird they don't do this.

They don’t care about the kid. If they can get what they want from her for $2-$4k that is what they will do. It’s about using people, not helping them. And I don’t believe Prince Andrew could get the same thing in England, or he would have done it there. Present evidence of blackmail or it didn’t happen.richwicks says

John Birch Society

There were many authors producing books, pamphlets, running seminars, and even some politicians like Ron Paul throughout the 60’s even through today. The internet just made it easier to find them, but they have always been there. They predate the WWW. Truth didn’t magically appear out of nowhere.richwicks says

It may take months or years, it doesn't take decades anymore.

The point is it doesn’t matter. They still get what they want. By the time enough people know the truth, they are vilified like J6ers, Snowden, etc...richwicks says

I know it couldn't have happened just like it said in Genesis. I know Noah's ark couldn't be real if only because of the diversity of species we have, and pretty simple physics.

You’re funny. The God of the universe could not find a way to pack 2-7 of each kind (would not have needed adult animals just a baby male and female) into the arc. Don’t be ridiculous. That is barely even a miracle. The miracle is that they came to the arc for the rescue in the first place. It’s a picture of the rescue you need.richwicks says

My viewpoint is that if there is a religion, it's purposely shielded from us, and you don't have to become literate, and read a 1000 page book to attain something approaching divinity. IF it exists, it's innate within all of us and purposely hidden from us.

That doesn’t make sense. What does make sense is that God created Adam in His image. Body, Soul, Spirit. When Adam sinned, he died a spiritual death. All his descendants are born spiritually dead. But the Spirit of God can reach and awaken any person who is willing to listen to that Spirit. You don’t need to read to know God, but you do need to listen when He is striving with you. Reject Him, and you will remain dead in your sins. richwicks says

I did wonder what it was called The Tree of Knowledge.

It was the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Before they ate of it, they did not know what evil was. But now we do. Evil is simply anything that offends God. Put another way, if you cannot in good faith do it, it is sin. Even avoiding doing what is right, is sin. So sin is the problem, but the answer is not to be sinless, because that is impossible. The answer is forgiveness because that is freely given by the God who loved us even when we broke fellowship with Him.
richwicks says

the early Inquisition.

If you think Christianity has anything to do with the inquisition you misunderstood history and Christianity. Jesus set the pattern, if people are not following Him, they are NOT Christians.richwicks says

I wondered why an all powerful, omnipotent GOOD God would decide to have his SON brutally tortured and killed, when he was omnipotent and therefore could make any condition He wanted to redeem mankind?

God is consistent. He limits Himself to what He said. He is not omnipotent, because he cannot lie, cannot be unjust, and cannot make a way to reconcile man to himself without bearing the punishment instead of man. That is what sets God apart from all other gods, He was willing to sacrifice, to pay the penalty Himself. If He ignored the penalty of sin, He would not be righteous. But since He is righteous, He paid the penalty for us. richwicks says

My fear is pantheism

That is ridiculous. Essence of the human soul is intention. Animals might be meat puppets but humans are not. The ability to choose is what defines a soul. And a soul will reap the rewards or consequences of their choices. The soul that knows God, will receive the gifts of God. The soul that rejects God, will know the regret of eternal life without God. That is the choice, life with God, or eternal separation from God.

The latest interview of Col. Macgregor. IMO, a brilliant assessment of the true situation as it now stands in Ukraine.
Also covers what's happening economically in Germany, along with what's really happening in Russia, including the distinct possibility of 'total mobilization.' Macgregor states that the world is in the most dangerous situation since the Cuban Missile Crisis:

This was a trap that the Russians set for the Ukrainians
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-W_5pDZS46M

RayAmerica says

Macgregor states that the world is in the most dangerous situation since the Cuban Missile Crisis:

I take issue with this.

Our government has done everything it could do possible to keep us in a continual state of terror. Don't you remember covid is going to kill us all?

I remember when CNN was interviewing people who were (supposedly) buying gas masks because Saddam Hussein was going to gas the Eastern Seaboard back in 1991. I don't think WWIII can be fought now, although the Neocunts are pushing for it. For it to happen, the US would have to start it and although I think the Neocunts are allowed free reign to cause chaos across the world, I think they are much more restricted in the US, although plenty of Neocunts are allowing importation of illegal aliens.

I think the military DOES have a limit. We'll see.

I really think the US military would obliterate Israel before they would allow a nuclear war between the United States and Russia. At the end, they will pick their own survival over the survival of a foreign state.

richwicks says

I think the military DOES have a limit. We'll see.

I really think the US military would obliterate Israel before they would allow a nuclear war between the United States and Russia. At the end, they will pick their own survival over the survival of a foreign state.

I hope you are right, for all of our sakes. But have you seen the top brass, from the vacant, lying Austin to woke Milley? The rank and file would resist, but when have lower ranks set military policy.

Milley would probably think he was ending ‘white supremacy’ by overthrowing Putin, consequences be damned.

Here's the facts!


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According to Patrick Lancaster he says he never runs into any Mainstream Media when he's on the ground in conflict areas. And he says often the BBC and AP takes his footage and distorts it. He reports on a Ministry of Science building being bombed out by American made bombs, with proof to back it up. The Mainstream media takes his footage and edits it without sound and says, Russia bombed out a children's hospital.

I tend to have to believe him and until anyone can show me any footage or reporting on the ground from the conflict zone that debunks his reports, I'll continue to believe him, while calling those people useful idiots and full of shit..

Tenpoundbass says

According to Patrick Lancaster he says he never runs into any Mainstream Media when he's on the ground in conflict areas. And he says often the BBC and AP takes his footage and distorts it. He reports on a Ministry of Science building being bombed out by American made bombs, with proof to back it up. The Mainstream media takes his footage and edits it without sound and says, Russia bombed out a children's hospital.

I almost wonder whether the “children’s hospital” is a tell of bs. Not just any hospital, a children’s hospital; not just any school, a preschool, and so on, to tug at heart strings. There seemed a lot of that early in the war, especially. And meanwhile, at least in this case, it was the “Ukrainian” (US) side doing the bombing, and of a completely unrelated building.

goofus says

I almost wonder whether the “children’s hospital” is a tell of bs. Not just any hospital, a children’s hospital; not just any school, a preschool, and so on, to tug at heart strings. There seemed a lot of that early in the war, especially. And meanwhile, at least in this case, it was the “Ukrainian” (US) side doing the bombing, and of a completely unrelated building.

Warmongers have long used the supposed killing of children by their targeted 'enemy' for as long as there has been such a thing as war, and, it is a very effective propaganda technique. Back in WW I and prior to America's involvement 'over there,' artist renditions of the evil Hun soldiers with babies on their bayonets was common. It never happened, but it enraged the American public, which was being primed to accept getting involved in a war that had nothing to do with us. Similar propaganda was used to justify the first Gulf War because "babies were being removed from incubators and thrown on the floor" by Saddam's evil troops ... an event that never happened ... but was repeated over and over again by President George H. W. Bush along with the corporate media.

Not long after the conflict began in Ukraine, a broadcast news story showed a seemingly dead Ukraine boy in the arms of a weeping adult ... killed no doubt on the orders of the evil Putin. When I saw the broadcast, I was with a friend whose only grandson was about the same age as the victim. Suddenly, this man, who is ordinarily fairly stoic, became very emotional because he related the graphic tragedy to his own grandson. From that point on, he supported Ukraine and was convinced that Russia and that evil Putin needed to be destroyed, even if it led to Nuclear War!

What I find interesting is this; many of the same people that believe that the EXPERIMENTAL 'vaccines' were meant to kill us and that the media lied to us, believe the media's reporting of the Ukraine war. Strange to say the least.

RayAmerica says

Not long after the conflict began in Ukraine, a broadcast news story showed a seemingly dead Ukraine boy in the arms of a weeping adult ... killed no doubt on the orders of the evil Putin. When I saw the broadcast, I was with a friend whose only grandson was about the same age as the victim. Suddenly, this man, who is ordinarily fairly stoic, became very emotional because he related the graphic tragedy to his own grandson. From that point on, he supported Ukraine and was convinced that Russia and that evil Putin needed to be destroyed, even if it led to Nuclear War!

What I find interesting is this; many of the same people that believe that the EXPERIMENTAL 'vaccines' were meant to kill us and that the media lied to us, believe the media's reporting of the Ukraine war. Strange to say the least.

Yes, I saw the same thing with family members over the “Syrian refugee crisis” of 2015. Remember baby Aylan, a toddler clad in red shoes, who had drowned crossing the Mediterranean? Our son was of similar age, and I remember thinking this is tragic but yikes, propaganda. The emotional impact hit others in the family much harder. The change from resistance to mass immigration to passive acceptance was remarkable (and the family in question hails from Europe and has much to lose). The demographic changes since then to the home country have been staggering, from crime to graffiti, to the loss of casual outdoor gatherings.

There’s a name for that latter phenomenon. What is it called, where you know your field has been misrepresented but believe reporting for other fields uncritically?

RayAmerica says

What I find interesting is this; many of the same people that believe that the EXPERIMENTAL 'vaccines' were meant to kill us and that the media lied to us, believe the media's reporting of the Ukraine war. Strange to say the least.

Finally remembered what this is called:

“Knoll’s law of media accuracy is the adage that ‘everything you read in the newspapers is absolutely true, except for the rare story of which you happen to have firsthand knowledge.’ For example, Knoll’s law suggests that someone might watch a news story about an event that they were personally involved with, and notice that the story is full of errors, but then forget that these types of errors exist when watching news stories about other events, with which they’re not as familiar.“

https://effectiviology.com/knolls-law/

Latest video from Macgregor ... IMO, very interesting:

Col Macgregor and Prof Glenn Diesen on Russia's Growing Offensive

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdQwBWqcJ_g

goofus says

For example, Knoll’s law suggests that someone might watch a news story about an event that they were personally involved with, and notice that the story is full of errors, but then forget that these types of errors exist when watching news stories about other events, with which they’re not as familiar.“

I just generally don't believe it if I or a trusted person didn't see it. For all we know there is no war in Ukraine. Has anyone you know been to Ukraine lately? Not talking 7 degrees of Kevin Bacon type information either. You know the person.

I don't know anyone. We're sending billions and yet I never see any reports from Kyiv from the 3 letter networks with a guy wearing a helmet and a vest reporting. Yes I know there's not active combat there, supposedly. For as many dead on either side are being claimed, it's probably the biggest war story since the Korean war or Vietnam. If 6 figure death toll reports are true, this is a major news story that should have reporters there.

I know American journalist are used to comfy cozy wars, but where are they? I've heard random reports that 100-200k are dead excluding civilian. In a little over a year. That's nuts. We killed a ton in the ME, but we technically lost little for 20 year wars.

WookieMan says

I don't know anyone. We're sending billions and yet I never see any reports from Kyiv from the 3 letter networks with a guy wearing a helmet and a vest reporting.

You don't see this from Yemen or Syria either.

They do feed us shit and keep us in the dark.

It would be funny if this war is much smaller than we're told. Wouldn't be the first time I was tricked by The Big Lie.

WookieMan says

I've heard random reports that 100-200k are dead excluding civilian.

I've heard 300,000 dead on the Ukrainian side and a little less than 50,000 for Russia - but who knows?

When are we going to see those F16's go up in magnificent Russian fireballs with the kids and old people piloting them? Oh, I forgot, they may have already been sold to Mexican cartels and the profits laundered back to Biden and select Congress critters.

https://t.me/greatreject/51300

Latest interview video with Col. Douglas Macgregor:

Dr. Ravassi & Col Macgregor: Disastrous attacks into Russian defenses

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OSuhY12PpE

Recent interview of award winning journalist Seymour Hersh. Well worth the time to watch:

“Putin Has Got All He Wants…” Seymour Hersh On Russia-Ukraine War & What Could Happen Next

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2YWBZKF0Gk

MacGregor does a daily talk.

https://www.youtube.com/@DouglasMacgregorStraightCalls

PeopleUnited says

There were many authors producing books, pamphlets, running seminars, and even some politicians like Ron Paul throughout the 60’s even through today. The internet just made it easier to find them, but they have always been there. They predate the WWW. Truth didn’t magically appear out of nowhere

You don't understand. You don't have to be part of an "in group" anymore to know what is going on. That's the purpose of the internet, to break up insular groups.

PeopleUnited says

The point is it doesn’t matter. They still get what they want. By the time enough people know the truth, they are vilified like J6ers, Snowden, etc..

If this was 1990, Snowden would have been Jonathan Pollard and he would have received ZERO support or coverage. His leaks would have gone nowhere. There would be no Julian Assange. If Assange wrote a book (somehow - how would he have received his information) he would have been assassinated like Gary Webb was for ONE revelation, not 100's.

99% of the country would be January 6th WAS an insurrection, not 1/2 of the country.

We wouldn't be talking. Maybe you're just too old to appreciate what we have. I'm talking to a people in Turkey, Brazil, and China right and we're comparing notes. I'm the elder of the group (of course) and I can explain what they don't know. They're in their 20's. We compare notes across national borders.

Kicked one asshole off the group from San Francisco because "he disagreed", but couldn't explain why, or about what - he just didn't believe certain FACTS. You can get rid of trouble makers in a day. There's STILL people that argue to "win the argument" not to be right. That was EVERYBODY in 1990 but today, there's huge groups of people who know they don't know what is going on, and WANT to know what is going on.

We've never been in a place like this before. One guy I'm talking to is a fanatical Muslim, he knows I'm an atheist, and we can still talk. I don't know what religion the guy from Brazil or China has, if any. I don't consider it particularly important.

You just can't appreciate where we are. Government propaganda is dismantled in days, if not hours and that's a good thing.

I'm bored and need enterntainment.

Any fresh juicy predictions from that shoe size IQ McGregor cunt?

Eric Holder says

I'm bored and need enterntainment.

Any fresh juicy predictions from that shoe size IQ McGregor cunt?

Don't be stupid.

The latest news from the money hole known as Ukraine:

The Ukrainians got obliterated far from the Russian security line

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QDEGipA_YU

The latest video from Col. McGregor:

1,000,000 Russian troops all the way around Ukraine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdeKBsUNJLM

I was giving my propaganda brainwashed friend some background on Ukraine, and gave him a reference to The Duran for more balanced coverage from mainstream propaganda mills.

I have studied him closely, and I think he prefers the gruel of propaganda lies because it is easy to digest and keeps him in a calm state of denial. He doesn't want to undergo the grief therapy associated with recognizing the true, dismal state of things. He is a 'propaganda addict' having all of his thoughts, feelings, analysis and motives provided to him in a feedbag, and the withdrawal process is too painful.

He told me that I should just relax and accept the state of propaganda as less stressful mind dope. He knows something isn't right, but he wants to be cradled and suckled by the escapist propaganda rather than engaging the awakening requirements.

Ceffer says

He told me that I should just relax and accept the state of propaganda as less stressful mind dope. He knows something isn't right, but he wants to be cradled and suckled by the escapist propaganda rather than engaging the awakening requirements.

"Take the blue pill."

I'm going to watch "The Manchurian Candidate" tonight with my 14 yo son. Considering the state of our government, I think the film underestimated the extent our political system could be corrupted. I'm waiting until he's older until I suggest "1984," although that and "Animal Farm" are on my summer reading list for him.