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richwicks says

At least he recognizes at this point there's no way for Ukraine to win this conflict,

Does winning mean getting the russians to leave and you live with the ruins and destruction of the country and the massive amounts of dead citizens?

komputodo says

richwicks says

At least he recognizes at this point there's no way for Ukraine to win this conflict,

Does winning mean getting the russians to leave and you live with the ruins and destruction of the country and the massive amounts of dead citizens?

If the Russians win they have to deal with the destruction. I guess that's a win? Stupid war either way. Russia is not winning by any metric. They will if a cease fire agreement does happen, but there are no signs of Russia winning 3 years deep into this. This is a decade long war.

Voting Trump, but his bluster on this is BS. This has devolved way too much. Russia now knows we have the Israel situation on our hands. They can do what they want including war crimes. They'll just start killing civilians and mowing them down. I don't agree, but we'll defend Israel over Ukraine. I don't want to defend any of them. They produce literally nothing for Americans.

This war could have been ended 2 years ago had not Boris flown in last minute to piss and shit all over the peace agreement that was signature ready between the Ukes and the Russkies.

WookieMan says

Russia is not winning by any metric.

Ukraine is not part of NATO and the world is more aware of globalist meddling. That is not a loss for Russia

Onvacation says

WookieMan says

Russia is not winning by any metric.

Ukraine is not part of NATO and the world is more aware of globalist meddling. That is not a loss for Russia

I've made dozens of comments on this. I give little to no shits about either country. We held 2 countries for at least 15 years each. We lost more people in Chicago in that time than soldiers in those two countries. Russia and Ukraine have both likely lost 6 figures plus compared to about 4,800 over a decade in a half with our shit show in the ME. Really think about it. It's nearing just 3 years.

Russia looks weak. Ukraine was never dominant in anything. My prediction is Ukraine gives up land and joins NATO in a peace deal. That's a major loss to Russia. They're walled in. That's the end game here. Give them the land, but Russia done fucked up in the long run. There's no other way to spin it. I don't want to give Ukraine anymore money, but I know what the goals are.

We're building a wall and this is the last brick. Using Ukraine as a pawn while weakening Russia. Ukraine will be a NATO country at some point.

Fact is Russia has had plenty of time to come to the table. They won't. Why? There's no one actually thinking of even invading them. They made their own bed. I don't care if nukes get lobbed. I don't fear death because you can't avoid it and I'm not sure I want to grow super old. Give me the codes and this would have been done 2 years ago.

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