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What are the fracture lines within the Democratic Party?


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2023 May 30, 9:48am   12,029 views  195 comments

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The violently intolerant and censorious left has taken over the Democratic Party, promoting only distractions from their original platform now. Originally the Democrats were about the workers vs the owners, but now Democrats are all-in on BLM riots, anti-white racism, sexual perversion, mandatory injections, and war, with the owners of capital funding these scourges.

For the survival of humanity, it is imperative that the Democratic Party be split. What are the wedge issues that would do this most effectively?

One that pops to mind is Israel. A lot of Democrats hate Israel and are for the Palestinians, but most Jews are Democrats.

So a rational person wanting humanity to survive the devastation of Democrat rule would find a way to increase this split. How might that be done?

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1   Tenpoundbass   2023 May 30, 9:51am  

The big problem with Democrat voters is the brainwashing media. The voters know their opticians are fucking crooked, but because they have been conditioned to hate the other party voters so much. They will lean into their lies rather than listen critically to those of us that knows what's going on.
2   AmericanKulak   2023 May 30, 9:54am  

A big one is SCHOOLING.

Many of the most enthusiastic Democrats are militant Pro-Teacher. No School Choice, Closest School Only, Obey the EduAdmins
But many minorities are sickened of th shitty school system which the Dems say is either excellent or only bad because it doesn't get $30k/student/year

Find a way to give vouchers to minorities in inner cities beyond what the states/cities allow, shit we're so in debt already who gives a shit if it can move some votes our way. Make the Teachers fight the Minorities/Poor Parents/Immigrant Parents.

Another one is Democrat Grey-haired Snob Karen vs. Loud Youthful Minorities

Israel isn't that big of a lever, and many of the Democrat Jews would gladly abandon Israel rather than their Leftist Politics. It's already happening. Also, they're up the river in Egypt. A/S incidents increase but the perps are from the "Oppressed Class", while the ADL and other Leftoid Jews whinge about the all but non-existent "Neo Nazis"
3   EBGuy   2023 May 30, 3:42pm  




Note that the D-R swing is even GREATER for single women. The change from 2020 to 2022 is most likely due to abortion. GOP has the advantage with married men and women, and single men.

All the Single Democratic Ladies
In 2022, according to exit polls, unmarried women voted for Democratic House candidates at a slightly more than two-to-one ratio (68–31 percent). Every other quadrant of voters — married men, unmarried men, and married women — gave majorities to Republican candidates.
4   richwicks   2023 May 30, 4:44pm  

Patrick says


So a rational person wanting humanity to survive the devastation of Democrat rule would find a way to increase this split. How might that be done?


I think the democratic party is lost at this point. There's no salvaging it.

The ANCIENT democratic party promoted education, tolerance, rational discussion, and opposed war. What twat within the Democratic party today exists that has those values? They are all drones now.

I ran into a democrat putting out flyers on the street, and he asked me in a whisper "but you oppose our last president don't you?" I pointed out he was the first president in 40 years not to start a new fucking war, and he went ballistic. They are kind of semi-human. They have no principles they won't break. They are the hypocrite party.
5   Patrick   2023 May 30, 4:51pm  

What I'm looking for is some practical way to split the Democratic Party so that they fight each other and perhaps even create a third party. The goal is to give the Republican Party an advantage in elections.

Democrats will fight each other about Israel - good.
Democrats will fight each other about schools - good.

There is also the Democrat Grey-haired Snob Karen vs. Loud Youthful Minorities split mentioned by AmericanKulak above.

What can we do to deepen these divides within the Democratic Party so that they lose power and sanity can prevail?
6   HeadSet   2023 May 30, 5:48pm  

Patrick says

What can we do to deepen these divides within the Democratic Party so that they lose power and sanity can prevail?

This task is made harder by the fact the traditional Dems are terrified of the woke far left. AOC beat a 10-term incumbent and even the old heads like Biden and Pelosi shifted far left to wide open borders, defund the police, and LGBTQ+ immunity. If the old Dems were not cowards, AOC and Pelosi would be fierce enemies. As it is, even Schumer wants to accommodate the "squad."
7   AmericanKulak   2023 May 30, 6:35pm  

Patrick says


There is also the Democrat Grey-haired Snob Karen vs. Loud Youthful Minorities split mentioned by AmericanKulak above.

This is where the fault line I think will be found.

Not sure WHAT it is, but that's where it will be.

Gotta find some way to leverage the Single Women from the Minorities. Esp. the childless single college educated women.

By 2030 half of all White women will be over 35 and childless and unmarried.

So Education won't be the battleground, permanent spinsters won't focus on Education except to the degree that many of them will be working IN Education. So Trans might be a great issue: Woke Childless Spinsters wanting to tell Jamal he can be Jashiqua vs. Ghetto Mammas mad at Karen.

If we can force the Dems into a choice of pandering EITHER to Unmarried White Women OR Minorities, that's they key.

But BEWARE! The converse can be true: Married Tradcons pissing off Smart Single Men over Marriage. "Marry my Ashley, dammit! She's 37 and ready to settle down! She's only pulling your leg when she told you 67 guys. She cooks boxed mac n' cheese just fine if my wife walks her through it over the phone."
8   mell   2023 May 30, 6:55pm  

Lol! In our network many even at advanced lesser value age still somewhat decent looking womyn living in states/areas infested with men (easily 55/45 ratio if not 60/40), claiming they can't find a quality man, starting to unfreeze their egg(s). Those who got married are getting divorced about now as their men realized that marrying an old broad w/ fibro who can hardly keep a job wasn't the best idea. It's a shitshow
9   richwicks   2023 May 30, 10:45pm  

Patrick says


What I'm looking for is some practical way to split the Democratic Party so that they fight each other and perhaps even create a third party. The goal is to give the Republican Party an advantage in elections.


It's a uniparty. The "leadership" of the RNC is as bad as the DNC, because they have the same leadership. Would you really want Mitt Romney, George W. Bush, Jeb Bush, or Liz Cheney, running this country? It's no better than a hair sniffing pedophile fuck running it. These people are fucking evil.

My goal is to get people to oppose war. It's expensive, it's immoral, it doesn't serve this country in any way. Can people be convinced to have an unshakable principle, NOT to murder people??? Seems like it would be easy, but it's not.

IF this nation is attacked, let's go all out, but only then.

I view war as our greatest moral failure. There's not been one war worth fighting since 1945, and I'm not even certain about that. The last war I think was definitely worth fighting was in 1776. State sanctioned murder cannot be tolerated, and that's all war is.
10   richwicks   2023 May 30, 10:56pm  

HeadSet says


AOC beat a 10-term incumbent


She's CIA, and the asshole she beat, was an asshole.

The CIA was OPENLY calling for recruits to run for congress in 2018, she's one of them. She's an actress, nothing more.

HeadSet says

If the old Dems were not cowards, AOC and Pelosi would be fierce enemies. As it is, even Schumer wants to accommodate the "squad."


They don't fear one another, and they don't oppose one another.

Ever hear of "force the vote"? That was to force members of congress to officially state their position on medicare for all - state mandated health care, which the democrats, CLAIM they want.

AOC and "the squad" could have forced this vote, but it was never officially voted on, so we don't know where people stand. You may disagree with medicare for all, but that's irrelevant. People who support it have no idea who in congress opposes it. It will never happen anyhow, it would destroy the health care industry.
11   WookieMan   2023 May 31, 1:09am  

richwicks says


The CIA was OPENLY calling for recruits to run for congress in 2018, she's one of them. She's an actress, nothing more.

I don't disagree with this necessarily. That really doesn't matter for one seat though.

The problem lies in most of the users here home state. California. 40 Democratic House members. 9% of the entire House, not just Democrat members, the whole fucker. I'm sure the Rino's with House seats from CA are borderline D's as well.

You guys have the most control to make change in YOUR state for national policy by a long shot. If you get that 40 seats down to 30 or less Dem controlled, that changes the entire landscape. Our federal government is governed by California Democrats. I witness it here almost daily how out of touch Californians are with the rest of the country.

We also need to be fighting gerrymandering. Fact is we shouldn't make districts by population. It should be by square mile blocks and adjust along borders with weird boundaries. House seats per state can be by population, but not the district within the state. However the map is mapped, Chicago might just have two districts instead of 5 or whatever it is.

We don't have equal representation. Urban areas get all the House members and that representative doesn't understand what makes their districts survive. Rural people. The most powerful region in probably the world is the Midwest. Harvest your crops this year, take out a loan to cover expenses in 2024 and don't plant in 2024. There goes your food supply. You guys in the West are coming after our liquid gold already... water from the Great Lakes. https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2017/04/10/great-lakes-water-piped-southwest-our-future-says-nasa-scientist/100301326/

We need representation more equal by producers and not a bunch of house wives, blacks shooting each other, attorneys, website builders, attorneys, etc. from urban areas. Here's a link to my great state (eye roll) on gerrymandering. It's god awful. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illinois%27s_congressional_districts We literally have no representation in rural areas. It's frustrating.

It would take till 2030, but keep promoting moving out of CA if you're in favor of that. Promote moving out of urban areas. That's how you decimate the Democratic party and Californians have the most power to do that. Republicans just don't have the will to do it or push it as a goal.
12   richwicks   2023 May 31, 1:22am  

WookieMan says

You guys have the most control to make change in YOUR state for national policy by a long shot. If you get that 40 seats down to 30 or less Dem controlled, that changes the entire landscape. Our federal government is governed by California Democrats. I witness it here almost daily how out of touch Californians are with the rest of the country.


We don't elect anything. When I say our elections are rigged, I'm not kidding. NOBODY in San Francisco likes Nancy Pelosi, YET she still keeps getting "elected"..

The problem is, people are like "why was she re-elected? The people around me sure are stupid!!!" - she wasn't re-elected, and people don't realize that.

People think OTHER people are the problem. They still believe the shit that is in power is elected, it's not. This ghoul will be re-elected:



Just you watch. It can be a corpse, it will still be "re-elected".
13   WookieMan   2023 May 31, 3:12am  

richwicks says


The problem is, people are like "why was she re-elected? The people around me sure are stupid!!!" - she wasn't re-elected, and people don't realize that.

Being from a smaller yet similar state I 100% disagree. Pelosi was re-elected for sure. You likely hang with different people so your view is skewed. Most people don't talk and socialize with people with opposite views as them. Could be politics, religion, have kids, don't have kids, etc. There are generally fair elections, though I agree 2020 for POTUS was bull shit.

I feel like you follow politics, but don't necessarily understand it. Unless you've been elected and haven't mentioned it? It is easy as shit to buy votes with pork barrel funds. Have one of the 435 House Reps come and meet with you personally for 2 hours and give you $1m in federal funds to a Republican small town. I'm living that. Vote her out in 2022 it fucks up the place I like and my property value. That's politics. Am I dirty, sure on paper (I'm not getting any money FYI directly and it's a volunteer elected board). But it is best for the community and I sucked it up at the ballot box and voted for the Dem.

Honestly she represented the district in an area that generally shouldn't matter to her. Talking my district. She did her job if I'm being honest yet biased. It's not all back door deep state shit going on. Fact is live it before spouting off about all sorts of deep state shit from 3rd parties that most certainly have their own bias or benefit to putting out what they do.

Fact is that California runs the nation. You guys made this mess. Let me know when the last time a Republican POTUS candidate actually campaigned in CA? They're in OH, FL, MI, WI, PA, etc. most the time. Yet you guys get the most representation to the tune of almost 10%. That representation is from cities filled with shit on the streets, needles and homeless encampments. I'm not wrong on this.
14   Patrick   2023 Jun 5, 9:17am  

Patrick says

One that pops to mind is Israel. A lot of Democrats hate Israel and are for the Palestinians, but most Jews are Democrats.



15   richwicks   2023 Jun 5, 2:43pm  

WookieMan says

Being from a smaller yet similar state I 100% disagree. Pelosi was re-elected for sure. You likely hang with different people so your view is skewed. Most people don't talk and socialize with people with opposite views as them. Could be politics, religion, have kids, don't have kids, etc. There are generally fair elections, though I agree 2020 for POTUS was bull shit.


....

I get tired of arguing this. The reason the ballot cannot be verified is there is no ballot.

You have no idea how easy this is to do. Collect all the ballots, record everybody going in, and exiting, the number of ballots should be counted first, then, go through the ballots and see the vote.

First step is to verify the ballot count, so it cannot be altered. The second step is simply count them. You can shuffle them if you like so voters can't be traced to the ballot they filled out. It can all be done on video camera, easily.

We had exit polling commonly until George W. Bush "won" in 2000, then it went away.

You have an AWFUL LOT of trust in a government that was screaming we were all about to die because of the sniffles and then spent 2 years trying to convince the entire country to take an experimental injection. I don't understand this level of gullibility. They lie about literally EVERYTHING. Is "nobody above the law"? Did we really have a pandemic emergency? Shit, I don't even want to go through the litany of all the bullshit my government has done. Every fucking war, bailing out the banking system, lying about "Russian interference", they even lie about things like Karl Rittenhouse and Derek Chauvin.

But they would NEVER steal an election, even though you know they did in 2020.

The only thing that keeps this system is unquestioning, and unjustified, faith.
16   goofus   2023 Jun 5, 4:36pm  

AmericanKulak says



This is where the fault line I think will be found.

Not sure WHAT it is, but that's where it will be.

Gotta find some way to leverage the Single Women from the Minorities. Esp. the childless single college educated women.

By 2030 half of all White women will be over 35 and childless and unmarried.

So Education won't be the battleground, permanent spinsters won't focus on Education except to the degree that many of them will be working IN Education…


It may well be over crime. My state, in the short time they’ve had a Democratic-controlled legislature and governor, passed laws decriminalizing theft below the $900 mark. Now we’re seeing daily “smash and grabs” by “teens,” coincidentally near section 8 complexes (aka “luxury apartments”), another gift from Democrats.

The Polly Annas at Next Door can’t imagine why anyone would do such a thing. Their parents should be ashamed of them, yada yada. Then Ebony comes on to justify their need for $900 of “food,” daily. Commence cognitive dissonance of the comfortable, but newly wary, NextDoor user.
17   Patrick   2023 Oct 13, 11:29am  

Well, now it's clear what the major fracture line is in the Democratic Party: Israel vs Palestine
18   HeadSet   2023 Oct 13, 11:47am  

Patrick says

Well, now it's clear what the major fracture line is in the Democratic Party: Israel vs Palestine

And somewhat the southern border.
19   stereotomy   2023 Oct 13, 12:21pm  

AmericanKulak says

Gotta find some way to leverage the Single Women from the Minorities. Esp. the childless single college educated women.

Childless single women are in the same league as the fags - they hate and want to corrupt children because they can't (whether through being a libtard bitch and not being able to attact a man, or a bottom fag who can't birth a real baby out his ass) have children.

"Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned," as Shakespeare wrote, and to which I will amend, "and equal is the wrath to which children shall be suborned, that gestate not in the wombs so scorned."
20   Patrick   2023 Oct 13, 12:26pm  

True. The left is driven primarily by resentment of their own incompetence:

Man would fain be great and sees that he is little; would fain be happy and sees that he is miserable; would fain be perfect and sees that he is full of imperfections; would fain be the object of the love and esteem of men, and sees that his faults merit only their aversion and contempt. The embarrassment wherein he finds himself produces in him the most unjust and criminal passions imaginable, for he conceives a mortal hatred against that truth which blames him and convinces him of his faults.
- Pascal

The resentments of the incompetent will never be slaked except by the destruction of all competence everywhere.
22   DOGEWontAmountToShit   2023 Oct 13, 5:29pm  

Patrick says







KFC voters now refers to Jews, not blacks or queers.

The more sophisticated of us should just call 'em eloi.

https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Eloi


23   Patrick   2023 Oct 14, 10:22pm  

Patrick says






Good evidence for why Jews should completely dump the Democratic Party:

https://twitter.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/1712943410548715614


24   richwicks   2023 Oct 14, 10:33pm  

GasTheYoungTurks says

Look up Self-Loathing Jew.

A good chunk of Israel's population is compromised of them too.

Only the media uses the label 'secular moderates'.


Israel is another country that continually drags the United States into the stupid situations they keep creating. They keep beating the hornets nest, and when they get stung they cry to the United States. Israel isn't the problem of the US.
25   DOGEWontAmountToShit   2023 Oct 15, 4:34am  

Israel does not drag the US into anything. Neither does Europe.

Our idiot elites in DC create that impression.

Little boy: But Mommy, Raul made me do it!

Mom: Don't tell me that BS. If Raul jumped off a bridge, would you do it too?
26   Patrick   2023 Oct 15, 3:19pm  

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2023/10/why_no_gay_pride_flags_in_gaza.html


October 15, 2023
Why no gay pride flags in Gaza?
By Robert Arvay
As I watched the pro-terrorist demonstrations on news media, I could not help but notice the prominent absence of the otherwise ever-present gay pride flags, which are displayed at virtually every leftist rally.

The reason is obvious: within Gaza, Hamas would massacre any group of people who dared to promote the values of LGBT. They routinely kill homosexuals when they are discovered. Not only Hamas, but nearly every Muslim-dominated society does this. Even here in the United States, the all-Muslim city council of a Michigan city banned gay pride symbols from city property, much to the chagrin of homosexual activists who had enthusiastically celebrated the election of that council.

Homosexuals know this. Pro-Hamas demonstrators know this. Both accept their incongruity, hoping no one else will notice. It is at best an uneasy alliance, at least when it’s convenient.
27   Patrick   2023 Oct 15, 3:25pm  

And lol, it's pretty funny that ultra-corrupt Merrick Garland, who has de-legitimized the whole US government by refusing to prosecute the screamingly obvious felonies committed by the Biden Crime Family at the top, is himself Jewish and now finds that he is protecting people who are clearly not on Israel's side.

Which will win out? His allegiance to the Biden Crime Family or his ethnic allegiance?

What he should do is put his responsibility to America first, but given his comically low morals, no one expects that.
29   HeadSet   2023 Oct 15, 3:44pm  

Patrick says

And lol, it's pretty funny that ultra-corrupt Merrick Garland, who has de-legitimized the whole US government by refusing to prosecute the screamingly obvious felonies committed by the Biden Crime Family at the top, is himself Jewish and now finds that he is protecting people who are clearly not on Israel's side.

What are talking about? Biden sent a whole carrier task to go protect Israel.
30   DOGEWontAmountToShit   2023 Oct 15, 3:53pm  

HeadSet says

Biden sent a whole carrier task to go protect Israel.


Protect Izzy from what?

Carriers are sent for offensive actions involving air assets.

Where's the MiGs fielded by Hamas? Are our carriers going to bomb Gaza?
31   richwicks   2023 Oct 15, 4:03pm  

GasTheYoungTurks says

Israel does not drag the US into anything. Neither does Europe.


AIPAC is Israel's lobby. Remember the yellow cake the Hussein bought from Niger? Israeli intelligence forged that document. Remember the Anthrax attacks after 9/11, it was Israeli intelligence that claimed Hussein did it, it came from Fort Detrick.

The US goes to war for Israel quite regularly.
32   Patrick   2023 Oct 15, 4:09pm  

HeadSet says

What are talking about? Biden sent a whole carrier task to go protect Israel.


https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/17/us/politics/trump-israel-policy.html


Where Biden Is (and Isn’t) Turning Back Trump’s Israel Policies
After a sharp rightward shift by the U.S. on the issue, President Biden must decide how far to move back to the left.
33   Misc   2023 Oct 15, 8:50pm  

The US is going to add a 3rd carrier group to the area. They are being used as a show of force, They are trying to deter Hezbollah, forces in Syria and Iran from escalating the conflict between Palestinians and Israelis.

We will see if this is effective. So far team Biden hasn't been doing well at deterring violence,
34   DOGEWontAmountToShit   2023 Oct 15, 9:05pm  

Misc says

are trying to deter Hezbollah, forces in Syria and Iran from escalating the conflict between Palestinians and Israelis.


Riiight.

Carriers are useless in ground, house-to-house urban warfare.
35   RWSGFY   2023 Oct 16, 8:07am  

GasTheYoungTurks says

Misc says


are trying to deter Hezbollah, forces in Syria and Iran from escalating the conflict between Palestinians and Israelis.


Riiight.

Carriers are useless in ground, house-to-house urban warfare.


Whatever sits inside these Gaza tunnels does not pose true existential threat to Israel. But an attack from 3 other sides could. Carriers put cold water on these itching to dogpile while IDF is stuck in the house-to-house combat.
36   Patrick   2023 Oct 18, 10:17am  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/rescinded-wednesday-october-18-2023


It looks like the CEO talk wasn’t just bluster. According to NBC, U.S. law giant Davis Polk sent out an internal email yesterday announcing it rescinded job offers to three law students from Harvard and Columbia universities who signed the pro-Hamas letters.

This must all be so confusing for these students. They thought they were playing Woke-opoly right, and virtue-signaled for all the right causes: race, check. Trans, check. Masks, check. Jabs, check. Ukraine, check. Palestine, check! But wait! They went one issue too far!

When the leftist rubber hit the progressive road, the pro-Palestine students went under the bus. Or something. You get the idea.
37   apex   2023 Oct 18, 4:22pm  

Patrick says
2023 May 30, 9:48am
One that pops to mind is Israel. A lot of Democrats hate Israel and are for the Palestinians, but most Jews are Democrats.


Just came here to acknowledge that Patrick called this. Six months ago.
38   Patrick   2023 Oct 18, 4:39pm  

@apex

Thank you, thank you.
39   stereotomy   2023 Oct 18, 4:48pm  

Don't cross the K mafia
40   Patrick   2023 Oct 18, 4:59pm  

Apparently they do not completely control the media anymore, given that even CNN ran with the bogus story of Israel bombing a hospital and killing 500 people.

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