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I guess they gave in to all those unlicensed Mexican cars driving around.

This whole thing was a money grab anyway. I'd like to see the insurance stats, but I'm estimating that 99% of accidents were caused not by faulty vehicles, but by mistakes made by the driver.

Karloff says

I'm estimating that 99% of accidents were caused not by faulty vehicles, but by mistakes made by the driver.

And I would say that nearly all rear end collisions when stopped at a red light are caused by the other driver texting or otherwise fiddling with the phone.

HeadSet says

And I would say that nearly all rear end collisions when stopped at a red light are caused by the other driver texting or otherwise fiddling with the phone.

Or blowjobs. My buddy rear ended me while he was getting a blowjob.

That's not what it sounds like!

just_passing_through says

Or blowjobs. My buddy rear ended me while he was getting a blowjob.

That's not what it sounds like!

Lol, no it sounds like what you typed.

Hopefully he didn't get his dick bitten off.

He didn't. It was his first day out with mom's car, an 80s Ford Tempo and he was driving like shit. So after the HS football game another buddy and I asked to be dropped off to ride in a different car before we all headed over to the opposing team's school to pick up crazy driver's girlfriend. She was a cheerleader on the opposing team.

He picked her up and we made our way out of the parking lot stopping at a red light but he didn't. He hit a Ford escort full of cheerleaders, they hit us then we hit a Ford bronco full of the opposing team's football coaches.

We were in a Hyundai excel. Despite seat belt I got whiplash and wondered into traffic for a few moments before I snapped out of it.

In Texas...

just_passing_through says

Despite seat belt I got whiplash and wondered into traffic for a few moments before I snapped out of it.

Jesus. Quite the blowjob... lol. Knocking out 4 cars in one suck.

I miss kid free days. We used to go to the Panhandle of FL driving straight through. Wife would keep me awake by blowing me during the midnight to 6 am hours. I wish Tesla and smarter cars were around then. Could have been more fun hands free.

Sexist as hell, but I'd drive the entire way because I don't trust women driving. She kept me awake. Win win.

just_passing_through says

My buddy rear ended me while he was getting a blowjob.

Not possible.

just_passing_through says

He picked her up and we made our way out of the parking lot stopping at a red light but he didn't. He hit a Ford escort full of cheerleaders, they hit us then we hit a Ford bronco full of the opposing team's football coaches.

The local news babe must have had a field day reporting that: "Today a 3 car pile-up after today's loss to Crosstown High School........"

NDrLoR says

https://www.kxan.com/news/texas/texas-passes-bill-eliminating-mandatory-vehicle-inspections/#:~:text=AUSTIN%20(Nexstar)%20%E2%80%94%20Texas%20drivers,most%20vehicles%20this%20legislative%20session

They still make you pay, but this time to have nothing done. In the article.

Karloff says

This whole thing was a money grab anyway. I'd like to see the insurance stats, but I'm estimating that 99% of accidents were caused not by faulty vehicles, but by mistakes made by the driver.

Yeah but not maintaining a vehicle is the owner/driver's fault too. My car has 221k miles on it. Have 3 kids. Have used it for work, camping and towing a bunch. You'd think it has 90k miles outside of the drivers seat, which I plan on half ass patching a few spots. Although here in IL our biggest issue for breakable parts that can cause an accident are suspension because of the salt in the winter.

You have to be pretty diligent after a snow to get an under carriage blast and wash. Another drawback of IL winters. Oh well.

Does Texas have emissions tests? Those were the worst when I lived in urban counties. IL doesn't require them in rural counties under a certain population. It was free when I had to do them, well built into registration fees, but I swear the notices all came at the same time for everyone and the lines were horrific. People would take off work, like the whole day to get it done. Line could be 2-3 hours and there were limited locations. So you could have 1 million people using one facility. Hundreds of cars idling for 2 hours at an emissions testing facility should be under the definition of retardation.

It's a step in the right direction. Next step eliminate the fee, followed by eliminating licensing and insurance requirements.

NuttBoxer says

It's a step in the right direction. Next step eliminate the fee, followed by eliminating licensing and insurance requirements.

You have to have insurance requirements. Anyone should be on board with that if you've been in an accident. We got a massive deal on a car a couple years back I've mentioned here. Rear ended, totaled. No medical. Walked with a net of $18,000 AFTER the loan was paid off. Tax free. For something like $500-600/yr in insurance.

Insurance sucks ass until you have to use it. Maybe you never will or have which would be awesome. Not at fault shit happens though. Like sitting at a stop light and a truck hits you. BIL hangs himself and you're booked for a $6k vacation and need to attend the wake/funeral. I've paid less in insurance than it has saved my ass.

Licenses are a must as well. I'm okay with 16 year olds driving. But they're dumb. Male or female. Especially now with phones in every car. I'd rather be around a drunk driver than a kid with a phone in their hand. And no, bluetooth speaker setup is just as much of a distraction. I just don't use the phone in the car. Text or voice. It can wait and kids won't do that.

Different reasons, but my SIL has 6 DUI's and the reason we have my nephew. She can't drive probably forever. How do you track that without a license? I know you're big on privacy, I respect that, and I lean libertarian, stay out of my life, but there are some things that just need to be tracked for a civil society to function.

WookieMan says

6 DUI's

eithers shes served prison time or she is a data point on female priviledge in the court system. 2 dui's = some jailtime plus probabtion for most offenders.

tanked says

They still make you pay,

That's fine with me as long as I don't have to deal with the yearly hassle.

WookieMan says

Does Texas have emissions tests?

They do in some areas, had to have it done when I lived in Dallas, but not Waco.

CBOEtrader says

WookieMan says

6 DUI's

eithers shes served prison time or she is a data point on female priviledge in the court system. 2 dui's = some jailtime plus probabtion for most offenders.

2 months in jail, not prison. Plus the time behind bars for all of them other ones and needing to get bailed out... We paid for 2 or 3 I think. Deserved time. I just didn't expect a 3rd kid landing in our laps. Just glad I didn't have to change diapers.

I don't have a racist bone in my body, but I know what blacks are dealing with them on rentals in Chicago and somewhat locally. They're deadbeats, especially the men. That's the crowd she got in with. Binge drinking, smoking pot and driving because she was the rich white bitch that could usher these thugs around. It's not a stereotype. It's fact. And not searching for accolades, it's family. I just don't get black people. Very frustrating seeing my nephew thrive in a rural area with no ghetto influence. Blacks need to make change, they've created a shit culture.

CBOEtrader says

WookieMan says

6 DUI's

eithers shes served prison time or she is a data point on female priviledge in the court system. 2 dui's = some jailtime plus probabtion for most offenders.

The bastard that killed a friend of mines's son just a few years ago had 9 DUIs. It took a homicide before they put him in jail.

HeadSet says

The bastard that killed a friend of mines's son just a few years ago had 9 DUIs. It took a homicide before they put him in jail.

Holy fuck. That sucks dude. My SIL finally got the message, I think. She basically lost her kid and is reliant on everyone to drive her around. I'm fine with the situation, but I was a spoiled brat, never got in trouble, but never in my life expected taking in someone else's kid. She fucked up and knows she probably won't be able to take care of her son until he becomes an adult. She fucked up bigly.

It's a 50/50 blame game from the judges and attorneys. The prominent DUI attorneys buy off the judges. This is fact. I don't care where you live. I know one well. Wine and dine. Trips. Probably drugs considering his daughter OD'd and died. DUI attorneys especially are in the pocket of the judges. My FIL when he was alive got 5 and paid probably $7-8k for each one to get out of it. He got out of it. That's partially why my SIL thought she could get away with it. Sad really. Living through this chaos I'm sorry for your friends family. It's bull shit.

Was at a top 5 friends wedding 4 years or so back. Another top 5 friend at the wedding gets a call his niece got hit by someone on meth and was basically dead and did die. His wife left (aunt) and it was pretty upsetting for everyone.

I enjoy my fun from time to time. I walk to it or get a ride. I'll sleep at the place I'm having fun if I know I did/had too much. It's pretty basic. My SIL is lucky she hasn't hurt anyone. #6 was a crash. No other involvement of pedestrians or vehicles. Lucky, but stupid. 2 months in jail. I couldn't do it. She did time for obstruction of justice prior, so she was used to it for a murder/shooting situation. Blacks.... I don't hate them, but they're toxic.

In a corrupt system, and we have a very corrupt system, laws are pointless. The rich and powerful never suffer any consequences, and the most vulnerable are preyed on by the law enforcers, and no one gets justice.

Don't look to laws to save you, look to yourselves and God.

NuttBoxer says

In a corrupt system, and we have a very corrupt system, laws are pointless. The rich and powerful never suffer any consequences, and the most vulnerable are preyed on by the law enforcers, and no one gets justice.

I tend to agree with you. The most vulnerable as a percentage are more likely to screw up though. Rich people get away with a ton no doubt. As an upper middle class person, I just have no interest in screwing around. Poorer people do. I don't look down on them, it's just fact to get by that they mess up.

I'm privileged and had a father that was an attorney. I still never got in trouble. He would have physically beat the shit out of me. I swear it was fun for him even if I did nothing wrong. My back has broken more drywall then most demo crews.... Anyone thinking "privileged" people don't have issues, wake up. Not you Nutt, just in general. My childhood sucked and I've vowed not to be my father.

WookieMan says

The rich and powerful never suffer any consequences

Unless you are Trump and railroaded for your politics.

Florida don't do inspections.
You can register a car in Florida, leave the state and forget about it. Just sent renewal fee.

HeadSet says

WookieMan says

The rich and powerful never suffer any consequences

Unless you are Trump and railroaded for your politics.

Even him hasn't suffered anything substantial yet.

Several years ago some CA official was caught on hot mic admitting that smog check is the best way to force people to buy new cars and pay sales tax on them because cars in CA don't rust and last forever.

Eric Holder says

Several years ago some CA official was caught on hot mic admitting that smog check is the best way to force people to buy new cars and pay sales tax on them because cars in CA don't rust and last forever.

Yup. We have salt for snow and mufflers fall off after so many years. So IL makes you get emissions test and probably 5% of people won't pass it. They either fix it, sending money to mechanics or they cannot re-register their car and get tickets. Either way it's another tax. Mostly hurting poor people.

I got a parking ticket for registration sticker in Chicago. Expired 12/31. 1/3 I get a ticket and the registration was in my car but it was cold and snowy and I didn't put it on. I own it's my fault. But registration is linked to the plates. So I fucking contested it and won.

I grew up with an attorney for a father. Contest EVERYTHING. They/government roll over 90% of the time unless you legit did something wrong. 90% just pay the fine, the taxes, the whatever... The 10% that fight usually win. And no, you don't need an attorney.

Definitely not true if you live by the ocean. When driving from desert to coastal areas you can physically feel the change in moisture levels.

Eric Holder says

Even him hasn't suffered anything substantial yet.

$Millions wasted in legal bills before this is done.

WookieMan says

The 10% that fight usually win.

True. When I was at the Cab company, we encouraged cabbies to fight every ticket. They usually won.

NuttBoxer says

Definitely not true if you live by the ocean. When driving from desert to coastal areas you can physically feel the change in moisture levels.

You're correct and incorrect. I know you said you've lived in Michigan. The salt hitting the undercarriage of a vehicle is vastly different the salt from moisture in the air. The body might rust near salt water, but it has little impact underneath the car. Driving over salted roads for 50 miles is a completely different animal.

Road salt is brutal, air salt is bad. You're moving to Yuma. That's the place to be to not deal with rust and undercarriage damage. Dry and hot.

WookieMan says

The salt hitting the undercarriage of a vehicle is vastly different the salt from moisture in the air. The body might rust near salt water,

Good point. The oceanside dwellers around here (Va) have everything at the house corrode, bikes, cars, swing sets, etc. But not the fallen mufflers dragging around like I saw when I lived in Minnesota.

NuttBoxer says

Definitely not true if you live by the ocean.

Yeah, like less than 1/2 mile from it. There are cars with surface rust parked in the first 3-4 blocks away from the ocean in Pacifica, for example. But nothing farther than that.

Eric Holder says

Yeah, like less than 1/2 mile from it. There are cars with surface rust parked in the first 3-4 blocks away from the ocean in Pacifica, for example. But nothing farther than that.

I noticed that. I thought it was strange as in South Texas the salt air rusts cars out way further from the coast than CA. I assumed it's because it's more humid or something.

I dated a chick in Pacifica who dumped a couple of gallons of water out of her closet dehumidifier daily. So it's there, you just don't notice it like TX. (Prolly Florida is worse?)

On that note I was at my condo in Maui when balcony work was being done. It was built in the early 70s and is maybe 25ft from a sea wall with crashing waves.

When the siding came up the wood underneath was good as new. Guys working on it said the salt air prevents normal wood rot, which I saw an identical case of during work on my condo in UTC/San Diego. Cross beams were rotted out horribly but that was 10 miles or so inland.

just_passing_through says

Guys working on it said the salt air prevents normal wood rot,

That doesn't seem to apply to wooden salt water docks around here.

just_passing_through says

I noticed that. I thought it was strange as in South Texas the salt air rusts cars out way further from the coast than CA. I assumed it's because it's more humid or something.

That's the key, not the salt, but the moisture. You can physically feel it when driving back to California from the desert. That's why Arizona is a haven for old cars, bodies never rust in the dry desert.

WookieMan says

And no, you don't need an attorney.

I spent the morning in Oakland traffic court once. I was fighting a red light camera ticket. I did roll through the red on a right turn. There was no traffic. The fine was around $500. In order to appear in court I had to "post bond" in the amount of the fine.

The day of trial i questioned everything. I did a bunch of research and read several pages of stuff I found in court.

There was no "issuing officer" so I got to question the camera company guy. He was not happy about that. I questioned the calibration, service interval, everything I could think of.

Finally after over an hour I asked, "Did I put anyone in danger?". No good answer.

The judge then asked me, "Anything else?"
Me, "No sir!"
"Guilty!" the judge gaveled before saying,"That took way longer than it should have."

$500 and two visits to court (once to plead not guilty and then for the trial). It cost them more to run the trial than they collected.

That red light camera is gone.

Jeb Bush ended vehicle inspections and the Emission testing in 2000 in Florida. It was his Conservative claim to fame. Much like all DeSantis did was wind down an unpopular lockdown and retard play along, that had already ran its course. Jeb Bush then went on to create America's biggest monopoly the Citizens Home owner insurance scam. He ran all competitors out of the state. Because get this, they were charging $500 a month. Now premiums are as much as $4K a year on small crap shack.