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Ceffer says

The many techniques and technologies that were employed are tried and tested acts of pyroterrorism which have been used for decades, especially in war zones such as the Vietnam War, Iraq War and Afghanistan War.

In Iraq? Seriously? The fucking thing is 99.8% sand. How?

Eric Holder says

Ceffer says

The many techniques and technologies that were employed are tried and tested acts of pyroterrorism which have been used for decades, especially in war zones such as the Vietnam War, Iraq War and Afghanistan War.

They forgot 9/11.

@Ceffer

I want to post your last 2 big comments on another site. Ok?

It appears what they want with all of this 'smart' technology is the ability to incinerate entire communities on demand and on short notice remotely by push button. What we have seen so far are dress rehearsals and executions of concept. Instead of a 'chicken in every pot', they want a bomb in every home and car that can be detonated by a guy on a monitor in an air conditioned room. With Paradise and Lahaina, they are putting it out there in plain sight.

"MO of Pyroterrorism.
What follows are the generic pyroterrorism, geoterroism and geoengineering protocols which have been used throughout various North American jurisdictions for decades whenever the U.S. Military has been ordered to expeditiously force the residents off their lands and out of their properties, as well as move all the citizens out of a town.

Atmospheric Aluminum (a Powerful Fire Accelerant) via Widespread Chemtrail Spraying
HAARP Frequencies especially Satellite-based
Weaponized SMART Meters Exploding Homes, Stores and Office Buildings
Weaponized SMART Vehicles So They Exploded Like Bombs
Specific EMFs Disseminated from Cellphone Towers
Microwave Weapons (i.e. DEW) Operating from GWEN Towers and Microwave Towers
Localized mini-EMPs Set Off by Remote Facilities
Directed Energy Weapons (e.g. Lasers) Fired from Drones, Satellites, Air Force Aircraft and Naval Ships

Arsonists Disguised as Police Officers, Firefighters and Other First Responders
Fire-starting Incendiary Devices such as Plastic Sphere Dispensers routinely used for Controlled Burns
Miniature Drone Flamethrowers Operated by Remote by U.S. Military Personnel
Gross Intentional Mismanagement of Parks, Forests, Grasslands & Brush
Deliberately Overloaded Power Lines (Under Hawaii Electric Management)
Sabotaged Power Lines and Exploding Transformers by Gladio Agents
Various Chemical Geoengineering Programs, Weather Modification Techniques & Climate Engineering Technologies"
https://amg-news.com/operation-incinerate-lahaina-secret-details-of-the-shock-and-awe-execution-plan-gladio-style-darpa-directed/

Chinese using lasers for tree trimming:

The targeting is precise enough they can spare targets (Catholic Church, Jesuits) (Lahaina Shores Beach Resort, Pritzker family and Obama). The pattern of spared vs. demolished buildings will hold an interesting pattern. Yeah, fireballs leaped out over the water to burn boats, but certain shoreline buildings untouched.
"The Real Reason Why the NWO Fire Terrorists Left the Lahaina Shores Beach Resort Standing During the Arson Attack"
https://beforeitsnews.com/blogging-citizen-journalism/2023/08/the-real-reason-why-the-nwo-fire-terrorists-left-the-lahaina-shores-beach-resort-standing-during-the-arson-attack-2653085.html


https://t.me/BenjaminFulfordWDSGroup/116132

NuttBoxer says

And the stuff Ceffer posted in those screenshots, while there is no proof I'm aware of for a lot of it, it's all possible. Not theoretically, literally we have the tech, the sociopaths for all of it to be reality.

Not HAARP. People are claiming that can be used to cause everything from earthquakes to hurricanes. You have any idea how much energy you need to make a hurricane? It's like all the electricity the United States produces in a year. It's an insane amount of energy.

We can induce rain by cloud seeding, we can even disperse (slightly) hurricanes, by doing the same, but that's it. Now arson is easy. I could light a forest on fire with off the shelf lasers, however, I'm not a sociopath, so I'm not going to do it. Even easier it putting an incendiary device on a drone, and just dropping it somewhere.

All this super fancy sci fi bullshit annoys me, when you can do it far more cheaply and easily from stuff you buy off from amazon.

richwicks says

All this super fancy sci fi bullshit annoys me, when you can do it far more cheaply and easily from stuff you buy off from amazon.

Do not give people such ideas! I mean, come on, we should buy local.

ad says

They are essentially passive investors.

Maybe.....but not for lack of a desperate desire to Fuck Shit Up when they can with DEI/ESG.
https://rumble.com/v2rzshe-blackrock-ceo-larry-fink-the-woke-esg-king-says-you-have-to-force-behaviors.html

Ceffer says

Chinese using lasers for tree trimming:

Dayum. Imagine that directed at the 18" of duff at the base of that eucalyptus. It would ignite instantaneously. Now mount it on a modestly sized drone.....
I still wonder if these incidents back in May weren't a dry run, waiting for a big wind event.
https://www.khon2.com/local-news/maui-brush-fire-prompts-road-closure-evacuations/

Robert Sproul says

Chinese using lasers for tree trimming:

It looks like they edited out the time it took to actually cut the limb. It may be ten minutes for that laser to cut through a 4 inch branch.

richwicks says

Not HAARP. People are claiming that can be used to cause everything from earthquakes

Tesla did it in the early 20th century, and the military immediately took the rights. How often do you know government to not use power they hold?

Schwab's vacation house in Lahaina:


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Mr Millikin and his wife said they are unsure exactly what saved their home. Two years ago, the couple purchased the 100-year-old property that used to be a bookkeeper's house for employees of a sugar plantation.
Mr Millikin and his wife said the house was in disrepair, so they sought to restore it. It may have been these renovations that saved the home, the pair told US media.
They switched out the home's asphalt roof for one with heavy-gauge metal, surrounded the house with river stones and removed foliage around it.

Another take on the Maui assault.

https://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=228044

Ceffer says

Another take on the Maui assault.

https://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=228044

PILING ON HUNDREDS OF VERSIONS, ONE LOONIER THAN THE OTHER, IS THE SUREST WAY TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF IT!!!!

NuttBoxer says

richwicks says

Not HAARP. People are claiming that can be used to cause everything from earthquakes

Tesla did it in the early 20th century, and the military immediately took the rights. How often do you know government to not use power they hold?

Bullshit he did.

A better disinformation and propaganda preserving counter offensive than that is in order. Maybe I can scatter some DARPA flat earth mythology to soothe the savage denier, that seems to be what it is for.

Patrick says

I have to wonder if this is some kind of "Alioto" again. SF Mayor Alioto would remove police so that property values would fall, then buy cheap property, put the police back so that values would rise, and then sell for a huge gain.

https://twitter.com/WallStreetSilv/status/1693868860179349731

@WallStreetSilv
San Francisco’s Decline: 🔊

I honestly think it is a real estate strategy by a few billionaires.

Drive down the real estate value in San Francisco by 80%, then buy up all of the cheap defaulted real estate, then re-establish law and order to rebuild. Beautiful location that they purchase at an 80% discount.

It’s the plot of Robocop and happening in San Francisco.

Patrick says

I have to wonder if this is some kind of "Alioto" again. SF Mayor Alioto would remove police so that property values would fall, then buy cheap property, put the police back so that values would rise, and then sell for a huge gain.

No question that's what they are doing.

I doubt this is an intentional strategy with respect to San Francisco. You see San Fran has one of the highest percentage of renters in the country (65%). What this type of strategy would do under the extremes in San Fran, is to cause rents to fall. If this was in fact tried in Detroit...well...it speaks for itself when the employers move out.

Of course, this is nothing that a few more million illegals can't cure.

Misc says

I doubt this is an intentional strategy with respect to San Francisco.

Yes it is.

It doesn't matter if places are rented out or not, the rents don't fall. Basically a cartel controls San Francisco, and this cartel is being challenged by the mafia.

richwicks says

Bullshit he did.

Unfortunately this is the effort I see in many comment now days. Read his autobiography, or lookup the government docs on it. Dude had a system for remote controlling boats in the early 1900's. Forget about Einstein, I'll take Tesla any day.

NuttBoxer says

Unfortunately this is the effort I see in many comment now days. Read his autobiography, or lookup the government docs on it. Dude had a system for remote controlling boats in the early 1900's. Forget about Einstein, I'll take Tesla any day.

Look, you can't create an earthquake. I know the STORY of him trying to find the resonate frequency of a home, but you'd have to put so much energy into that, you might as well use a bomb to destroy it and the ground would dampen it.

Remote control isn't hard. What's hard is keeping the frequency connected. We've have major advanced in antenna technology.

Tesla and Einstein were quite a bit different in what they studied and worked on. Apples and oranges.

https://babylonbee.com/news/biden-awards-hawaii-official-medal-of-freedom-for-saving-water-during-fire

richwicks says

Look, you can't create an earthquake. I know the STORY of him trying to find the resonate frequency of a home, but you'd have to put so much energy into that, you might as well use a bomb to destroy it and the ground would dampen it.

Remote control isn't hard. What's hard is keeping the frequency connected. We've have major advanced in antenna technology.

Just want to make sure I'm clear on this. The major advances in antenna technology you're referring to happened when? During the early 1900's? And especially on this point, you know more about electricity than Nikola Tesla, so you know he could not have created an earthquake machine based on your superior intellect?

I will run out and alert the media immediately to stop referring to Tesla as the father of electricity. Will place a call to Elon telling him he needs to rename the Tesla, to the Rickwicks...

NuttBoxer says

referring to Tesla as the father of electricity.

Tesla had some great accomplishments but was hardly the "father of electricity." These terms were invented by Ben Franklin during Ben's experiments with electricity:
battery
charge
condensor
conductor
plus
minus
positively
negatively
armature

Also, that AC current Tesla is famous for was well developed by English, French, Russian, and German inventors long before Tesla came into the picture. Saying Tesla is the father of electricity is like saying Henry Ford is the father of the automobile.

NuttBoxer says

Just want to make sure I'm clear on this. The major advances in antenna technology you're referring to happened when? During the early 1900's?

No, they were created I think starting in early 2000. Radio isn't that difficult to do, what's hard to do, is picking it up.

NuttBoxer says

During the early 1900's? And especially on this point, you know more about electricity than Nikola Tesla, so you know he could not have created an earthquake machine based on your superior intellect?

I'm saying there's a bunch of myths about Nikola Tesla. This is what you are referring to:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidbressan/2020/01/07/nikola-teslas-earthquake-machine/?sh=3caa452c52c5

You don't have to know a lot about electricity, this is just physics and energy. Some dumb, uneducated asshole "journalist" - you think he made any effort to find out if it was true? It's not true.

Patrick says

Concrete building with sprinklers - check.
Lush, constantly wateres vegetation - check.
Generous clearance on 3 sides with ocean on the 4th - check.

Why would it burn? If it did, THAT would be suspicios AF.

Wonder if Oprah managed to harvest some children from Lahaina while having their parents shot and incinerated? Hail, Satan!

https://t.me/volmemes/29383

HeadSet says

NuttBoxer says

referring to Tesla as the father of electricity.

Tesla had some great accomplishments but was hardly the "father of electricity." These terms were invented by Ben Franklin during Ben's experiments with electricity:
battery
charge
condensor
conductor
plus
minus
positively
negatively
armature

Also, that AC current Tesla is famous for was well developed by English, French, Russian, and German inventors long before Tesla came into the picture. Saying Tesla is the father of electricity is like saying Henry Ford is the father of the automobile.

If Franklin had Edison's biographer, I'll stick with Nikola. But maybe you know someone else who figured out a way to generate free electricity?

richwicks says

Some dumb, uneducated asshole "journalist" - you think he made any effort to find out if it was true? It's not true.

Like I said Tesla's biography. So you're calling him a liar. Also his opinion on Einstein...

One look at cars with melted glass and puddled molten metal running off of them says DEW decisively.

https://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=228143

https://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=228143

RWSGFY says

Concrete building with sprinklers - check.
Lush, constantly wateres vegetation - check.
Generous clearance on 3 sides with ocean on the 4th - check.

Why would it burn? If it did, THAT would be suspicios AF.

So the sprinklers worked during the fire, when they turned off all the water? They prevented the extreme dry conditions that occur in the air during a fire? And the entire building is made of material that does not burn, it's 100% brick? And obviously you still haven't read anything as you aren't aware of the boats that burned on the water...

Gonna repost this from Patrick. It's what we should be focused on rather than calling everything fake, unless your a sociopath...

NuttBoxer says

So the sprinklers worked during the fire, when they turned off all the water? They prevented the extreme dry conditions that occur in the air during a fire? And the entire building is made of material that does not burn, it's 100% brick? And obviously you still haven't read anything as you aren't aware of the boats that burned on the water...

The building could be even wooden, but covering it in stucco makes its walls resistant to embers. If the roof is made of non-flammable material (metal, ceramic or concrete tile, etc) the building will not catch fire from embers, unless they get in through open windows or doors. This is where sprinklers come into play and I'm pretty sure resorts like that have fire supression systems by code. These high-rises are made of steel and concrete though. The boats burned on the water were not stucco, concrete or metal - they were made of wood and/or plastic. Drop some embers on them - and they're done. Dry conditions are irrelevant - if the surface is non-flammable it will not catch fire no matter what. Drop some embers on lush grass which has been watered twice a day and all you get is maybe poxmarks here and there.

NuttBoxer says

richwicks says

Some dumb, uneducated asshole "journalist" - you think he made any effort to find out if it was true? It's not true.

Like I said Tesla's biography. So you're calling him a liar. Also his opinion on Einstein...

Relativity is correct, at least at the macro level. Time dilation has to be taken into account for GPS. You can measure it easily with an atomic clock. You can even measure the difference in time dilation between an upper and lower shelf due to the different gravitational attraction.

Einstein was wrong about quantum mechanics though.