patrick.net

An interesting thing I heard Maui Police Chief John Pelletier say in a video is that the charred human remains, when picked up/touched, turned into dust. Is that even possible?

Nothing a little 'unnatural' natural disaster can't solve.

Robert Sproul says

The same people own Hawaiin Electric that own everything else including the government.

The top "holders" or "owners" are so because they offer index funds like Total Stock Market Index (or Wilshire 5000) fund which invest in utility companies like Hawaii Electric.

The top holder like Vanguard and Blackrock are not active investors. They are essentially passive investors.

Soros hedge fund is an active investor, and so is Warren Buffet's Berkshire Hathaway.

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So DOD documents and websites are loony? As are first hand accounts from people who actually live there?

For all the speculators, trying reading some information from reliable alternative/independent news sources. One or two of the events that triggered this disaster, possible coincidence, possible. But there are far more than two. The odds of all the shit that came together being merely happenstance, or island life are astronomical. Occam wants a word with all you speculators. And I'd prefer you read something.

I visited Jamaica for a month, I remember island culture well. No one shows up on time for anything, things are sometimes slow to move. It's due to life being more relational, less focused on accomplishments. I think we could all take a cue from that and relax a bit more.

And the stuff Ceffer posted in those screenshots, while there is no proof I'm aware of for a lot of it, it's all possible. Not theoretically, literally we have the tech, the sociopaths for all of it to be reality.

This is where I see patnet constantly failing, seems like a lot of you don't like reading, researching, or thinking beyond your own personal experience and speculation, which gives you an extremely biased and narrow worldview.

Like assholes, we all have opinions. I would hope you come here to share more than just a picture of your rectum though...

If a conquering entity could put a population to sleep and then murder them en masse, do you really think that they would hesitate to do it? People still are not versed that unseen machines can render destruction from the sky, or remotely (HAARP) bounced from somewhere else. They are still stuck on the paradigm that one should see a plane or rocket that make obvious noise overhead, and drop a bomb like WWII.

This Lahaina event has all of the signatories of planning and sky based weapons. It does not take an expert any more. One can see the first burned out car with melted glass, sitting on hubs, with molten metal puddling from it, and conclude that this was DEW. Anywhere you see plastics unharmed (not microwave sensitive) adjacent to burned and twisted metal, homes flattened to gray ash, with trees seemingly untouched, it's DEW. I'm sorry, but there is no longer any other conclusion or attribution that makes sense that is not propaganda, lies or disinformation, or part of the stage planning of the perpetrators. To date, unknown and unseen so undiscovered? The military satellites know in a second what these DEWs are from heat signature spectra, so why do they not act? That is a major question.

The native peoples were complicit in their own destruction by trusting the lies of Globalist Blue psychopaths and believing they they were somehow respected. Their officials, governor, police chief, utilities authorities down the line are apparatchiks, hoping that the Satanic master are pleased but still fearful that the Waring blender of public scrutiny will fall on them. The water clown is a perfect example of a fecal impaction idiot, citing bizarre dazed and confused virtue signaling superstition about the water while shutting it off to those trying to save their burning buildings. The so called authorities are still mocking the victims by not providing them with meaningful assistance, and their efforts are not aid, they are cover ups. Joe Biden mocked the victims with his laser statement openly, and tossed them a sop of aid. Adding insult to injury, aid to Maui has been made contingent to aid to Ukraine. No aid to Ukraine, no aid to Maui. What could be more offensive or blatant? Basically, the powerful are engaging in audacious conquest and have abandoned the usual fig leaves of fake altruism.

People have already forgotten Sri Lanka, where the politicians were bribed into going full 'Green' under the auspices of the WEF. The result predictably was failure of agriculture, social breakdown, and the scenes of the hungry population directly storming the palaces of the privileged, who were seen scurrying with trunks onto departing boats.

Everybody forgets that the Globalistas LOVE war, death, destruction, failed economic policies, and civil wars, because they step in and bind the survivors into even tighter bonds of Babylonian debt slavery.

@Ceffer, pretty convincing comment.

NuttBoxer says

I visited Jamaica for a month, I remember island culture well. No one shows up on time for anything, things are sometimes slow to move. It's due to life being more relational, less focused on accomplishments. I think we could all take a cue from that and relax a bit more.

This works when everything is fine. When you're bleeding from a femoral artery puncture you DON'T want your ambulance to arrive on island time and your EMTs to be relaxed about the whole thing.

Same shit here: people in charge of emeregency preparednes SHOULD NOT live on "island time" and be relaxed. Wildfire is wildfire and it has the same characteristics whether is it's happening in extremely non-relaxed Bay Area or on some touristy island in the middle of Pacific. Why are we holding CA government to one standard and lambast them for dropping the ball on enforcing powerline clearance standards and then turn around and say "oh, it's OK to be sloppy - it's island life, maaan!" when the same shit happens in HI?

So, coming to a sleepy suburb near you? They aren't stopping at fake forest fires any more. They'll just zap and count on the terrorism to quell the survivors.
"Every major U.S. Military Operation has both a public and private code name. According to our insider sources and we have multiple, the actual secret code name of the highly organized and long planned black operation to incinerate Lahaina is: OPERATION INCINERATE LAHAINA.

What the whole world witnessed via the Internet in Maui on Tuesday, August 8, 2023, was nothing short of a full-scale military assault on the “census-designated place” known as Lahaina.

This was a highly coordinated military operation which utilized a multi-pronged strategy and numerous battlefield tactics, all designed to completely destroy the targeted city as quickly and efficiently as possible.

In short, this was a military experiment. It was a dress rehearsal for many similar ops that will likely be executed around the world with the same precision and cold calculation.

The primary perpetrators at the purely operation level operated in total secret in an Operation Gladio-type of virtual space which functions under the command of NATO (aka the North Atlantic Terrorist Organization). In this way, the U.S. Armed Forces enjoy “plausible deniability” even though they are pushing the buttons by remote.

The many techniques and technologies that were employed are tried and tested acts of pyroterrorism which have been used for decades, especially in war zones such as the Vietnam War, Iraq War and Afghanistan War.

The immediate goal was the total destruction of as much of Lahaina as possible as rapidly as possible, which was accomplished.

Much of the full spectrum military approach that was utilized was achieved by remote. It was purposefully carried out in this manner so as to leave the fewest number of fingerprints at the massive crime scene.

Of course, there are digital signatures all over this black op that will be ferreted out by the best cyber investigators.

Also, the many Hawaiian leaders, Mauian authorities, and especially the Lahainan officials on the ground who transparently screwed up, were either told to do so or permitted to do so as a way for the higher level perps to deflect blame and avoid all culpability for this deliberately planned mass casualty event."
https://amg-news.com/operation-incinerate-lahaina-secret-details-of-the-shock-and-awe-execution-plan-gladio-style-darpa-directed/

Eric Holder says

Patrick says

https://palexander.substack.com/p/mandalay-bay-hotel-las-vegas-remember

Mandalay Bay hotel Las Vegas, remember the mass shooting that killed over 50? Turns out Maui’s Police Chief Was Incident Commander During the 2017 Las Vegas Massacre;

This has led many conservatives to question whether there is a cover-up or not, along with a botched crime scene investigation by local authorities who changed the timeline multiple times.

BTW, what came out of that LV shooting? Who benefited and how?

So, nobody wants to take a stab at it?

Ceffer says

The many techniques and technologies that were employed are tried and tested acts of pyroterrorism which have been used for decades, especially in war zones such as the Vietnam War, Iraq War and Afghanistan War.

In Iraq? Seriously? The fucking thing is 99.8% sand. How?

Eric Holder says

Ceffer says

The many techniques and technologies that were employed are tried and tested acts of pyroterrorism which have been used for decades, especially in war zones such as the Vietnam War, Iraq War and Afghanistan War.

They forgot 9/11.

@Ceffer

I want to post your last 2 big comments on another site. Ok?

It appears what they want with all of this 'smart' technology is the ability to incinerate entire communities on demand and on short notice remotely by push button. What we have seen so far are dress rehearsals and executions of concept. Instead of a 'chicken in every pot', they want a bomb in every home and car that can be detonated by a guy on a monitor in an air conditioned room. With Paradise and Lahaina, they are putting it out there in plain sight.

"MO of Pyroterrorism.
What follows are the generic pyroterrorism, geoterroism and geoengineering protocols which have been used throughout various North American jurisdictions for decades whenever the U.S. Military has been ordered to expeditiously force the residents off their lands and out of their properties, as well as move all the citizens out of a town.

Atmospheric Aluminum (a Powerful Fire Accelerant) via Widespread Chemtrail Spraying
HAARP Frequencies especially Satellite-based
Weaponized SMART Meters Exploding Homes, Stores and Office Buildings
Weaponized SMART Vehicles So They Exploded Like Bombs
Specific EMFs Disseminated from Cellphone Towers
Microwave Weapons (i.e. DEW) Operating from GWEN Towers and Microwave Towers
Localized mini-EMPs Set Off by Remote Facilities
Directed Energy Weapons (e.g. Lasers) Fired from Drones, Satellites, Air Force Aircraft and Naval Ships

Arsonists Disguised as Police Officers, Firefighters and Other First Responders
Fire-starting Incendiary Devices such as Plastic Sphere Dispensers routinely used for Controlled Burns
Miniature Drone Flamethrowers Operated by Remote by U.S. Military Personnel
Gross Intentional Mismanagement of Parks, Forests, Grasslands & Brush
Deliberately Overloaded Power Lines (Under Hawaii Electric Management)
Sabotaged Power Lines and Exploding Transformers by Gladio Agents
Various Chemical Geoengineering Programs, Weather Modification Techniques & Climate Engineering Technologies"
https://amg-news.com/operation-incinerate-lahaina-secret-details-of-the-shock-and-awe-execution-plan-gladio-style-darpa-directed/

Chinese using lasers for tree trimming:

The targeting is precise enough they can spare targets (Catholic Church, Jesuits) (Lahaina Shores Beach Resort, Pritzker family and Obama). The pattern of spared vs. demolished buildings will hold an interesting pattern. Yeah, fireballs leaped out over the water to burn boats, but certain shoreline buildings untouched.
"The Real Reason Why the NWO Fire Terrorists Left the Lahaina Shores Beach Resort Standing During the Arson Attack"
https://beforeitsnews.com/blogging-citizen-journalism/2023/08/the-real-reason-why-the-nwo-fire-terrorists-left-the-lahaina-shores-beach-resort-standing-during-the-arson-attack-2653085.html


https://t.me/BenjaminFulfordWDSGroup/116132

NuttBoxer says

And the stuff Ceffer posted in those screenshots, while there is no proof I'm aware of for a lot of it, it's all possible. Not theoretically, literally we have the tech, the sociopaths for all of it to be reality.

Not HAARP. People are claiming that can be used to cause everything from earthquakes to hurricanes. You have any idea how much energy you need to make a hurricane? It's like all the electricity the United States produces in a year. It's an insane amount of energy.

We can induce rain by cloud seeding, we can even disperse (slightly) hurricanes, by doing the same, but that's it. Now arson is easy. I could light a forest on fire with off the shelf lasers, however, I'm not a sociopath, so I'm not going to do it. Even easier it putting an incendiary device on a drone, and just dropping it somewhere.

All this super fancy sci fi bullshit annoys me, when you can do it far more cheaply and easily from stuff you buy off from amazon.

richwicks says

All this super fancy sci fi bullshit annoys me, when you can do it far more cheaply and easily from stuff you buy off from amazon.

Do not give people such ideas! I mean, come on, we should buy local.

ad says

They are essentially passive investors.

Maybe.....but not for lack of a desperate desire to Fuck Shit Up when they can with DEI/ESG.
https://rumble.com/v2rzshe-blackrock-ceo-larry-fink-the-woke-esg-king-says-you-have-to-force-behaviors.html

Ceffer says

Chinese using lasers for tree trimming:

Dayum. Imagine that directed at the 18" of duff at the base of that eucalyptus. It would ignite instantaneously. Now mount it on a modestly sized drone.....
I still wonder if these incidents back in May weren't a dry run, waiting for a big wind event.
https://www.khon2.com/local-news/maui-brush-fire-prompts-road-closure-evacuations/

Robert Sproul says

Chinese using lasers for tree trimming:

It looks like they edited out the time it took to actually cut the limb. It may be ten minutes for that laser to cut through a 4 inch branch.

richwicks says

Not HAARP. People are claiming that can be used to cause everything from earthquakes

Tesla did it in the early 20th century, and the military immediately took the rights. How often do you know government to not use power they hold?

Schwab's vacation house in Lahaina:


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Mr Millikin and his wife said they are unsure exactly what saved their home. Two years ago, the couple purchased the 100-year-old property that used to be a bookkeeper's house for employees of a sugar plantation.
Mr Millikin and his wife said the house was in disrepair, so they sought to restore it. It may have been these renovations that saved the home, the pair told US media.
They switched out the home's asphalt roof for one with heavy-gauge metal, surrounded the house with river stones and removed foliage around it.

Another take on the Maui assault.

https://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=228044

Ceffer says

Another take on the Maui assault.

https://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=228044

PILING ON HUNDREDS OF VERSIONS, ONE LOONIER THAN THE OTHER, IS THE SUREST WAY TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF IT!!!!

NuttBoxer says

richwicks says

Not HAARP. People are claiming that can be used to cause everything from earthquakes

Tesla did it in the early 20th century, and the military immediately took the rights. How often do you know government to not use power they hold?

Bullshit he did.

A better disinformation and propaganda preserving counter offensive than that is in order. Maybe I can scatter some DARPA flat earth mythology to soothe the savage denier, that seems to be what it is for.

Patrick says

I have to wonder if this is some kind of "Alioto" again. SF Mayor Alioto would remove police so that property values would fall, then buy cheap property, put the police back so that values would rise, and then sell for a huge gain.

https://twitter.com/WallStreetSilv/status/1693868860179349731

@WallStreetSilv
San Francisco’s Decline: 🔊

I honestly think it is a real estate strategy by a few billionaires.

Drive down the real estate value in San Francisco by 80%, then buy up all of the cheap defaulted real estate, then re-establish law and order to rebuild. Beautiful location that they purchase at an 80% discount.

It’s the plot of Robocop and happening in San Francisco.

Patrick says

I have to wonder if this is some kind of "Alioto" again. SF Mayor Alioto would remove police so that property values would fall, then buy cheap property, put the police back so that values would rise, and then sell for a huge gain.

No question that's what they are doing.

I doubt this is an intentional strategy with respect to San Francisco. You see San Fran has one of the highest percentage of renters in the country (65%). What this type of strategy would do under the extremes in San Fran, is to cause rents to fall. If this was in fact tried in Detroit...well...it speaks for itself when the employers move out.

Of course, this is nothing that a few more million illegals can't cure.

Misc says

I doubt this is an intentional strategy with respect to San Francisco.

Yes it is.

It doesn't matter if places are rented out or not, the rents don't fall. Basically a cartel controls San Francisco, and this cartel is being challenged by the mafia.

richwicks says

Bullshit he did.

Unfortunately this is the effort I see in many comment now days. Read his autobiography, or lookup the government docs on it. Dude had a system for remote controlling boats in the early 1900's. Forget about Einstein, I'll take Tesla any day.

NuttBoxer says

Unfortunately this is the effort I see in many comment now days. Read his autobiography, or lookup the government docs on it. Dude had a system for remote controlling boats in the early 1900's. Forget about Einstein, I'll take Tesla any day.

Look, you can't create an earthquake. I know the STORY of him trying to find the resonate frequency of a home, but you'd have to put so much energy into that, you might as well use a bomb to destroy it and the ground would dampen it.

Remote control isn't hard. What's hard is keeping the frequency connected. We've have major advanced in antenna technology.

Tesla and Einstein were quite a bit different in what they studied and worked on. Apples and oranges.

https://babylonbee.com/news/biden-awards-hawaii-official-medal-of-freedom-for-saving-water-during-fire

richwicks says

Look, you can't create an earthquake. I know the STORY of him trying to find the resonate frequency of a home, but you'd have to put so much energy into that, you might as well use a bomb to destroy it and the ground would dampen it.

Remote control isn't hard. What's hard is keeping the frequency connected. We've have major advanced in antenna technology.

Just want to make sure I'm clear on this. The major advances in antenna technology you're referring to happened when? During the early 1900's? And especially on this point, you know more about electricity than Nikola Tesla, so you know he could not have created an earthquake machine based on your superior intellect?

I will run out and alert the media immediately to stop referring to Tesla as the father of electricity. Will place a call to Elon telling him he needs to rename the Tesla, to the Rickwicks...

NuttBoxer says

referring to Tesla as the father of electricity.

Tesla had some great accomplishments but was hardly the "father of electricity." These terms were invented by Ben Franklin during Ben's experiments with electricity:
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Also, that AC current Tesla is famous for was well developed by English, French, Russian, and German inventors long before Tesla came into the picture. Saying Tesla is the father of electricity is like saying Henry Ford is the father of the automobile.

NuttBoxer says

Just want to make sure I'm clear on this. The major advances in antenna technology you're referring to happened when? During the early 1900's?

No, they were created I think starting in early 2000. Radio isn't that difficult to do, what's hard to do, is picking it up.

NuttBoxer says

During the early 1900's? And especially on this point, you know more about electricity than Nikola Tesla, so you know he could not have created an earthquake machine based on your superior intellect?

I'm saying there's a bunch of myths about Nikola Tesla. This is what you are referring to:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidbressan/2020/01/07/nikola-teslas-earthquake-machine/?sh=3caa452c52c5

You don't have to know a lot about electricity, this is just physics and energy. Some dumb, uneducated asshole "journalist" - you think he made any effort to find out if it was true? It's not true.

Patrick says

Concrete building with sprinklers - check.
Lush, constantly wateres vegetation - check.
Generous clearance on 3 sides with ocean on the 4th - check.

Why would it burn? If it did, THAT would be suspicios AF.