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NuttBoxer says

Regardless of the details we can say with certainty that the government created a situation where people would die. It was premeditated. It was murder.

Government created? Sure. Premeditated? Yuuuge stretch. When did the planning start: was it when trees were replaced with sugarcane? Or when sugarcane was allowed to die and be replaced by non-native grass? Are you sure our government even capable of such long plannig horizons? And all for what - to take Lahaina from residents who weren't wven there back then? They could've taken it all at the time sugarcane plantations were being started in the area.

If it's not premeditated, I would love for a data scientist to calculate the odds of things going down exactly like they did. Gotta be astronomical. This is the point a lot of normies just can't get over though. Facing the reality that there is evil in the world, and it is just as organized and driven as the good side. Same stumbling block comes up for the Scamdemic, all wars we've engaged in, 9/11. Epstein was the only one where people just accepted it, strange..

Now government is walling off the fire zone and intimidating people who attempt to visit their land. Now if it's really just coincidence, or bad policy with no malice aforethought, why hide what you're doing? Simplest explanation there's enough evidence to try people for murder, and cause enough outrage to send a mob their way.

Speaking of 'walling off' one thing that has occurred to me is that Lahaina is the only real population center for the whole coastline past the Olowalu tunnel. I don't think there is easy access other than through the tunnel and that 20 miles of coast will have trouble supporting any population if rebuilding is very slow. It is easy to imagine it as an easy area to isolate and secure.

Vid is too long for Pnet, but claims he is a long term resident of Maui, knows lots of people, and that armed pontoons pulled up to Lahaina dock, soldiers with special forces patches started arresting 'police' who had been cordoning off Lahaina, took away their guns and said these 'police' were being arrested for treason, and started forcing the distribution of food, water and aid that was sitting there but held up and not distributed. One would hopium. The all seeing eye of Christine tends to be reliable.
Gossip until confirmed.

The precious blue pill comfort blanket gone, gone! They shouldn't have tried to make Hawaiian Electric the patsy?

Is there a verification for this?



See https://twitter.com/ImMeme0/status/1697988053455843467

The_Deplorable says

Is there a verification for this?



See https://twitter.com/ImMeme0/status/1697988053455843467

Wait, how did they escape Mariupol? Weren't they all captured along with 8 NATO generals there?

The_Deplorable says

Is there a verification for this?

I really don't know. Lots of 'rumors' of skirmishes and even gunfire, but mostly gossip girl since there is a rock solid MSM wall of silence, and any info sneaks out through alternative media, some of which is always a bit hysterical dramaturgy.

Thing is, how is it that that many kids could just disappear from the radar? I imagine some bogus pathologist will claim that scraps of remains are DNA correlated. I think it is more likely that many were kidnapped when they were 'kept home' since Red Cross was johnny on the spot at the time of the fires. The Globalists wouldn't just want to kill the parents and destroy their property, they would want to eliminate the pesky heirs, too, while getting a trafficking bonus.

In case nobody noticed, the Globalists like to do a lot of multi tasking during their capers.

The_Deplorable says

Is there a verification for this?

No. Only thing I've heard about military that could be true, is deploying them around the burn area to keep people out.

30% of the flight logs for Maui on 8/8 were scrubbed
No fly zone a week after the fire to "fight the fire"
Military and FBI guarding miles of fence and large boulders that cost $3,000,000 to construct
Only 25% of the burn zone has been searched
People not allowed to stop near overpass in area that gives them clear view of burn area
People arrested for jumping fence to get to their home
People had to get permission from FBI to leave crosses outside fence
2,000 children missing according to Maui government figures.

Don't believe anything I just said, watch the video, follow the links, verify for yourself. Because your hometown might be next...


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NuttBoxer says

Don't believe anything I just said, watch the video, follow the links, verify for yourself. Because your hometown might be next...

The link to the sources is here:

https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/shelby-thomson-interview-8-30-23/

NuttBoxer says

Don't believe anything I just said, watch the video, follow the links, verify for yourself. Because your hometown might be next...

So it is Chinese or foreign military laser or directed energy weapons that were involved with the Maui fires ?

Please don't tell me this is Dr Evil as in some illuminati or new world order effort to kill off the population.

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ad says

So it is Chinese or foreign military laser or directed energy weapons that were involved with the Maui fires ?

Nobody knows, it's all speculation.

What's clear is that the water was turned off, and residents were prevented from leaving, no sirens were used, the emergency system wasn't used, parents were prevented from entering to save their kids.

Fuck the government.

ad says

Please don't tell me this is Dr Evil as in some illuminati or new world order effort to kill off the population.

This Dr Evil and an Illuminati, NWO effort to kill off the population.

Could be that nations who have various weather weapons and DEWs and HAARPs are testing each other out. Some have pointed out that China was surveying Hawaii with lasers just prior to Lahaina, and they have been suffering incredible flooding (HAARP from somewhere else?) and might have been flexing some muscle to show that they have remote control toys, too.
Or, they just accepted dough to do the dirty deed for the Rothschild/Rockefeller etc. as a contract job.

Ceffer says

Some have pointed out that China was surveying Hawaii with lasers

good point Ceff... even Newsweek and Popular Mechanics pointed this out ...the articles can be found via a keyword search for China green laser Hawaii ... can't easily memory hole or CERN Mandela Effect that ...its too late for such an important fact and non trivial event...

if this is the case, I wonder if anyone in the US federal government knows about this based on intel reports (i.e., from Pentagon satellite data, etc.) and who knows this ... I suspect they probably are trying to ensure this is tightly compartmentalized and not even Birdbrain Biden (and his national security advisor) knows

https://www.newsweek.com/mysterious-green-lasers-hawaii-chinese-satellite-nasa-1780468

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richwicks says

What's clear is that the water was turned off, and residents were prevented from leaving, no sirens were used, the emergency system wasn't used, parents were prevented from entering to save their kids.

Yeah, you would think police would be going thru neighborhoods sounding warnings but I guess there was not enough time for this

if it was a laser attack by a Chicom satellite then they would hit a nearby field that has no homes around to make it look like a natural forest fire ... and you don't want witnesses around if the laser is easily detectable by sight

Right now its 115 confirmed dead, and 385 missing

I read about some children being alone at home and dying in the fire

I agree it was a tragedy of many errors. And now the lawsuits have started.

"The father of 57-year-old Rebecca Rans filed the complaint Tuesday in the Second Circuit Court of Hawaii. It alleges Maui County, the state of Hawaii, the electric utility and a large landowner caused the fire that led to Rans’ death."

For those who want some interesting 'smoking gun' DEW stuff, the guy Steve Favis (stevefavis.com) is a scientist/programmer who used open source NORAD tracking data and 'reverse propagating' code to discover two Chinese satellite right over Maui with a 'firing window' of 40 minutes or so. He also computes typical Chinese payloads and energy requirements that need to be packed into those payloads, and it all correlates. He also discusses the targeting abilities of such satellites to program the firing patterns to the targets and the time and areas that could be covered.
For those 'Juan O Savin' haters, he called this stuff already a couple of weeks ago, saying it was a potential 'Pearl Harbor' type incident with perhaps Chinese flexing their DEW muscles, also describing the requirements for this kind of satellite intervention i.e. speed, altitude, etc. He said the fire spread over a mile in a second. He also said the military would know instantaneously from spectral signatures what the sources could be. The times of the satellites passing over correspond exactly with the Maui fires.
So, was it a spy vs. spy thing, with Globalists tuning the Chinese into the caper, and military just regards it as Cold War tit for tat for their own HAARP/DEW stuff? Did the MotherWefers contract the Chinese for it? Woo knows.
Favis also says the same programs with stored NORAD tracking data can be reverse propagated for old DEW fires, too, in California and Colorado. Watch vid before somebody tries to censor it.
It's intriguing that open source information, Matlab, and some programming can do this. He even says the simple code is on his website and that anybody with some basic coding experience and Matlab can duplicate it from the NORAD data. Starts after 12 minute mark.
https://rumble.com/v3fgkxn-the-prather-brief-ep.-92.html?mref=m9199&mc=8lg38
https://rumble.com/v3fgkxn-the-prather-brief-ep.-92.html

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Going to go out on a limb and guess he mentions the burned out cars near the edge of the fire but not within the main fire zone - that had melted aluminum.

Those were insurance fraud burns with added accelerants. They were all traced back to the same owner already who's in deep shit.

When you drive around Maui you're pretty much guarantied to see burned out cars like that sadly. I'd always assumed they were stolen but apparently people burn their own too.

just_passing_through says

Those were insurance fraud burns with added accelerants. They were all traced back to the same owner already who's in deep shit.

Who is the owner?

When there's a distinct lack of details, that's a red flag right there.

https://elizabethnickson.substack.com/p/burn-back-better-its-not-climate



Very interesting if true.

Accelerants have max T of 2000 F, unless they are very special grade types used by military. That's the 'blowtorch point', the hottest, not the averaged T over the surface of the object. Although aluminum has a nominally low melting temperature, the breaching temperature is 3700 because of the oxide layer. Also, 2000 F will not melt glass.

The clearly delineated, pre-determined policy thrust is to force DISPERSAL of the Lahaina residents, not aid them in situ for rebuilding. This will include denying them insurance payments or government loans/reimbursements, and keeping all lawsuits out of any discovery phase in the crooked, Masonic courts, settled for peanuts likely with condition that they residents forego any aspirations of resettlement once all of the evidences of the crime scene have been destroyed (except for the kidnapped kids and the Globalists studying the aftermath for their own sequestered educational purposes).

Let's give them ten doses of mRNA vaccines and boosters while they are in the Masonic clink. That oughta make some more Lahaina ripe for luxury homes and Globalsita highrises on the water with a slave colony in the 15 minute city of New Lahaina inland a bit.

Soo, what's the conclusion on whodunnit: was it Oprah, Soros or Chinese sattelites?

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"They are still arresting people for visiting their own homes in Maui 31 days after the fires and the media ban remains active. What are they trying so hard to hide?"

Good Question... What sre they trying so hard to hide?

RWSGFY says

Soo, what's the conclusion on whodunnit: was it Oprah, Soros or Chinese sattelites?

I think the Great Gaslight Gremlin dood it.

Looking like Chinese satellites in the service of Globalista shared agendas. Not so weird, considering Rockefellers, Rothschilds et alia have been heavily invested and influential with the CCP. The Rockefellers apparently have treated themselves to orgies of reproduction with dynastic Chinese families.

The Chinese are probably delighted that they can help the West in its own self immolation and self destruction on behalf of inbred, drool bucket Pharaonic cult families, fed by sociopathic sycophant retainers, with their delusions of grandeur.

They're not getting their homes back, period. Hawaii has been full of saturated Masonic/Illuminati high jinks throughout its history (look at the Pharaonic rising sun symbol behind the Guv). At one point, all Hawaiians were declared dead by decree by their own king( Hawaiian Royalty were also Masons), so that development of native lands could proceed. You are looking at Globalist Masonic bullshit from top to bottom with the faux Governor and the faux police chief/coroner (it is illegal for police chief to also be the coroner, this is to destroy or cover up evidence from dead bodies in Lahaina and block any genuine investigations). Police chief wears a Masonic ring.

RWSGFY says

Soo, what's the conclusion on whodunnit: was it Oprah, Soros or Chinese sattelites?

what would the chinese gain by burning that small island and only the poor folks homes and not the rich people homes? Hey maybe it was the russians or trump supporters. Perhaps white supremacists.

Another DEW vid. Interesting comments that they act instantaneously once tracked to target, and they their destructive ability is 'cheaper' than rockets and bullets. Isn't it wonderful that they are cost effective?

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If you watch the video I linked, they mention a homeowner who security cam caught a very bright light in the direction where one of the fires started. He confirmed there is NO electrical equipment in that direction. Some very odd burn patterns, something un-natural happened. And not by accident, too many people worked together to make this worse, and cover it up, from the get-go.

With all the evidence, and looking at who benefits the obvious culprit is state and federal government. Feels especially accurate stating that on 9/11.

The red pill diner's club special, that obviously many still don't want to swallow, is that international warfare is mercenary, can be purchased, and now comes quasi anonymously from the sky.

The 'natural disaster' ruse is wearing increasingly thin, and when 'acts of God' decisively become 'acts of Men' in the public consciousness, then the hunt is on for the perps and conspirators. Paradise, Santa Rosa, Colorado and the other DEW/HAARP events were gimmes, but Lahaina might be the threshold Waterloo for awareness of what is going on.

Weather warfare is clearly being waged against the BRICS as a last gasp of the G7 G20 type Globalists to impose hegemony. As if that will defy identification of means, motive and opportunity in the weather and DEW crimes.

Weather warfare and DEWs are also multi tasking as providing the false flag 'evidence' for the fake Globalist Global Warming scam.

Yet it's all for shit because no one buys it. Our greatest ally after God will always be man's ego and subsequent ineptitude.

NuttBoxer says

With all the evidence, and looking at who benefits the obvious culprit is state and federal government. Feels especially accurate stating that on 9/11.

Who ultimately benefits ? What are the motives to do this ? What are the benefits ? Follow the money.

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