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NuttBoxer says

Don't believe anything I just said, watch the video, follow the links, verify for yourself. Because your hometown might be next...

So it is Chinese or foreign military laser or directed energy weapons that were involved with the Maui fires ?

Please don't tell me this is Dr Evil as in some illuminati or new world order effort to kill off the population.

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ad says

So it is Chinese or foreign military laser or directed energy weapons that were involved with the Maui fires ?

Nobody knows, it's all speculation.

What's clear is that the water was turned off, and residents were prevented from leaving, no sirens were used, the emergency system wasn't used, parents were prevented from entering to save their kids.

Fuck the government.

ad says

Please don't tell me this is Dr Evil as in some illuminati or new world order effort to kill off the population.

This Dr Evil and an Illuminati, NWO effort to kill off the population.

Could be that nations who have various weather weapons and DEWs and HAARPs are testing each other out. Some have pointed out that China was surveying Hawaii with lasers just prior to Lahaina, and they have been suffering incredible flooding (HAARP from somewhere else?) and might have been flexing some muscle to show that they have remote control toys, too.
Or, they just accepted dough to do the dirty deed for the Rothschild/Rockefeller etc. as a contract job.

Ceffer says

Some have pointed out that China was surveying Hawaii with lasers

good point Ceff... even Newsweek and Popular Mechanics pointed this out ...the articles can be found via a keyword search for China green laser Hawaii ... can't easily memory hole or CERN Mandela Effect that ...its too late for such an important fact and non trivial event...

if this is the case, I wonder if anyone in the US federal government knows about this based on intel reports (i.e., from Pentagon satellite data, etc.) and who knows this ... I suspect they probably are trying to ensure this is tightly compartmentalized and not even Birdbrain Biden (and his national security advisor) knows

https://www.newsweek.com/mysterious-green-lasers-hawaii-chinese-satellite-nasa-1780468

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richwicks says

What's clear is that the water was turned off, and residents were prevented from leaving, no sirens were used, the emergency system wasn't used, parents were prevented from entering to save their kids.

Yeah, you would think police would be going thru neighborhoods sounding warnings but I guess there was not enough time for this

if it was a laser attack by a Chicom satellite then they would hit a nearby field that has no homes around to make it look like a natural forest fire ... and you don't want witnesses around if the laser is easily detectable by sight

Right now its 115 confirmed dead, and 385 missing

I read about some children being alone at home and dying in the fire

I agree it was a tragedy of many errors. And now the lawsuits have started.

"The father of 57-year-old Rebecca Rans filed the complaint Tuesday in the Second Circuit Court of Hawaii. It alleges Maui County, the state of Hawaii, the electric utility and a large landowner caused the fire that led to Rans’ death."

For those who want some interesting 'smoking gun' DEW stuff, the guy Steve Favis (stevefavis.com) is a scientist/programmer who used open source NORAD tracking data and 'reverse propagating' code to discover two Chinese satellite right over Maui with a 'firing window' of 40 minutes or so. He also computes typical Chinese payloads and energy requirements that need to be packed into those payloads, and it all correlates. He also discusses the targeting abilities of such satellites to program the firing patterns to the targets and the time and areas that could be covered.
For those 'Juan O Savin' haters, he called this stuff already a couple of weeks ago, saying it was a potential 'Pearl Harbor' type incident with perhaps Chinese flexing their DEW muscles, also describing the requirements for this kind of satellite intervention i.e. speed, altitude, etc. He said the fire spread over a mile in a second. He also said the military would know instantaneously from spectral signatures what the sources could be. The times of the satellites passing over correspond exactly with the Maui fires.
So, was it a spy vs. spy thing, with Globalists tuning the Chinese into the caper, and military just regards it as Cold War tit for tat for their own HAARP/DEW stuff? Did the MotherWefers contract the Chinese for it? Woo knows.
Favis also says the same programs with stored NORAD tracking data can be reverse propagated for old DEW fires, too, in California and Colorado. Watch vid before somebody tries to censor it.
It's intriguing that open source information, Matlab, and some programming can do this. He even says the simple code is on his website and that anybody with some basic coding experience and Matlab can duplicate it from the NORAD data. Starts after 12 minute mark.
https://rumble.com/v3fgkxn-the-prather-brief-ep.-92.html?mref=m9199&mc=8lg38
https://rumble.com/v3fgkxn-the-prather-brief-ep.-92.html

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Going to go out on a limb and guess he mentions the burned out cars near the edge of the fire but not within the main fire zone - that had melted aluminum.

Those were insurance fraud burns with added accelerants. They were all traced back to the same owner already who's in deep shit.

When you drive around Maui you're pretty much guarantied to see burned out cars like that sadly. I'd always assumed they were stolen but apparently people burn their own too.

just_passing_through says

Those were insurance fraud burns with added accelerants. They were all traced back to the same owner already who's in deep shit.

Who is the owner?

When there's a distinct lack of details, that's a red flag right there.

https://elizabethnickson.substack.com/p/burn-back-better-its-not-climate



Very interesting if true.

Accelerants have max T of 2000 F, unless they are very special grade types used by military. That's the 'blowtorch point', the hottest, not the averaged T over the surface of the object. Although aluminum has a nominally low melting temperature, the breaching temperature is 3700 because of the oxide layer. Also, 2000 F will not melt glass.

The clearly delineated, pre-determined policy thrust is to force DISPERSAL of the Lahaina residents, not aid them in situ for rebuilding. This will include denying them insurance payments or government loans/reimbursements, and keeping all lawsuits out of any discovery phase in the crooked, Masonic courts, settled for peanuts likely with condition that they residents forego any aspirations of resettlement once all of the evidences of the crime scene have been destroyed (except for the kidnapped kids and the Globalists studying the aftermath for their own sequestered educational purposes).

Let's give them ten doses of mRNA vaccines and boosters while they are in the Masonic clink. That oughta make some more Lahaina ripe for luxury homes and Globalsita highrises on the water with a slave colony in the 15 minute city of New Lahaina inland a bit.

Soo, what's the conclusion on whodunnit: was it Oprah, Soros or Chinese sattelites?

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"They are still arresting people for visiting their own homes in Maui 31 days after the fires and the media ban remains active. What are they trying so hard to hide?"

Good Question... What sre they trying so hard to hide?

RWSGFY says

Soo, what's the conclusion on whodunnit: was it Oprah, Soros or Chinese sattelites?

I think the Great Gaslight Gremlin dood it.

Looking like Chinese satellites in the service of Globalista shared agendas. Not so weird, considering Rockefellers, Rothschilds et alia have been heavily invested and influential with the CCP. The Rockefellers apparently have treated themselves to orgies of reproduction with dynastic Chinese families.

The Chinese are probably delighted that they can help the West in its own self immolation and self destruction on behalf of inbred, drool bucket Pharaonic cult families, fed by sociopathic sycophant retainers, with their delusions of grandeur.

They're not getting their homes back, period. Hawaii has been full of saturated Masonic/Illuminati high jinks throughout its history (look at the Pharaonic rising sun symbol behind the Guv). At one point, all Hawaiians were declared dead by decree by their own king( Hawaiian Royalty were also Masons), so that development of native lands could proceed. You are looking at Globalist Masonic bullshit from top to bottom with the faux Governor and the faux police chief/coroner (it is illegal for police chief to also be the coroner, this is to destroy or cover up evidence from dead bodies in Lahaina and block any genuine investigations). Police chief wears a Masonic ring.

RWSGFY says

Soo, what's the conclusion on whodunnit: was it Oprah, Soros or Chinese sattelites?

what would the chinese gain by burning that small island and only the poor folks homes and not the rich people homes? Hey maybe it was the russians or trump supporters. Perhaps white supremacists.

Another DEW vid. Interesting comments that they act instantaneously once tracked to target, and they their destructive ability is 'cheaper' than rockets and bullets. Isn't it wonderful that they are cost effective?

original link

If you watch the video I linked, they mention a homeowner who security cam caught a very bright light in the direction where one of the fires started. He confirmed there is NO electrical equipment in that direction. Some very odd burn patterns, something un-natural happened. And not by accident, too many people worked together to make this worse, and cover it up, from the get-go.

With all the evidence, and looking at who benefits the obvious culprit is state and federal government. Feels especially accurate stating that on 9/11.

The red pill diner's club special, that obviously many still don't want to swallow, is that international warfare is mercenary, can be purchased, and now comes quasi anonymously from the sky.

The 'natural disaster' ruse is wearing increasingly thin, and when 'acts of God' decisively become 'acts of Men' in the public consciousness, then the hunt is on for the perps and conspirators. Paradise, Santa Rosa, Colorado and the other DEW/HAARP events were gimmes, but Lahaina might be the threshold Waterloo for awareness of what is going on.

Weather warfare is clearly being waged against the BRICS as a last gasp of the G7 G20 type Globalists to impose hegemony. As if that will defy identification of means, motive and opportunity in the weather and DEW crimes.

Weather warfare and DEWs are also multi tasking as providing the false flag 'evidence' for the fake Globalist Global Warming scam.

Yet it's all for shit because no one buys it. Our greatest ally after God will always be man's ego and subsequent ineptitude.

NuttBoxer says

With all the evidence, and looking at who benefits the obvious culprit is state and federal government. Feels especially accurate stating that on 9/11.

Who ultimately benefits ? What are the motives to do this ? What are the benefits ? Follow the money.

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I agree as the errors compile. And when you get that many errors then there are too many red flags.

So whats next for natural disasters that raise this many red flags ? If it is planned, then how do they not get exposed ?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/maui-residents-say-utility-trucks-blocked-roads-tried-flee-rcna100200

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To me it all looks like government incompetence and corruption. There's no conspiracy to kill people. But now that the catastrophe occurred, the government is corruptly trying to cover up their own incompetence and corruption.

"What are the odds it would go down just like this?" someone asks. That's not the way to analyze. There are an astronomical number of ways things could go wrong, but each way is astronomically low probability. 1/astronomical x astronomical still gives high probability that one of those myriad scenarios will play out. It's like thinking the lottery is rigged because the odds of a given person winning are practically zero yet someone seems to win almost every time. That's because the number of people "playing" is huge. (Note that certain lotteries, in the past, have been rigged! Also, there's no certainty that the current lotteries are clean.)

SunnyvaleCA says

There's no conspiracy to kill people.

You haven't listened to residents, or watched analysis, this is your speculation. The people on Maui responsible for handling this covered it up from the get-go. Lied about it as it was happening. And that sacred water, pawning it off on native tribes, total bullshit according to residents. But when you turn off the water during a fire, and block the only road out of town, you aren't trying to kill people?

That's too far fetched for me bro.

ad says

If it is planned, then how do they not get exposed ?

Don't rely on government I think is the big lesson here. Not for your warning system, not for your resources, and definitely NOT for your safety. Living in small towns helps, especially because alot of what I just said is easier to do in those places. But I'd also say a willingness to resist being slaughtered, to the point of using deadly force if necessary, is key. Show them we won't turn back into the fire.

Ceffer says

Looking like Chinese satellites in the service of Globalista shared agendas.

So CCP+Soros are culpable but Oprah is cleared of the suspicion?

Oprah is likely a medium level executive who is beguiled that Satan will grant her eternal youth and fame in exchange for servitude to the agendas. She's a Realtor.

Soros is a higher level executive of MI6 and the NWO, but he follows orders as a governmental subversion specialist. I don't think he is into the real estate end of things.

CCP are just glad the West is destroying itself under any banner, and are happy to help in any way they can, especially since they are mad that they have been flooded by HAARPs because of their BRICS apostasy.

NuttBoxer says

SunnyvaleCA says

There's no conspiracy to kill people.

You haven't listened to residents, or watched analysis, this is your speculation. The people on Maui responsible for handling this covered it up from the get-go. Lied about it as it was happening. And that sacred water, pawning it off on native tribes, total bullshit according to residents. But when you turn off the water during a fire, and block the only road out of town, you aren't trying to kill people?

That's too far fetched for me bro.

It seems plausible to me that the people responsible for handling the situation were corrupt and/or incompetent. For example, perhaps they pocketed the resources intended for fire prevention and/or they are so disorganized the prevention work just slipped through the cracks. But it's a huge step to say they purposely took steps (or didn't take steps) with the intention of killing people.

ad says

If it is planned, then how do they not get exposed ?

They get exposed all the time, but because it wasn't on "the news" 70% of people don't believe it.

It's pretty obvious that the Bush administration lied us into the Iraq war and lied about the weapons of mass destruction program. Where's the fallout? Bush was invited on all the major late night talk shows recently. It's pretty obvious that the US overthrew Ukraine that caused this current war. Where's the fallout? Well, it's not "on the news", so, it didn't happen.

The vaccines are entirely ineffective, and are dangerous. Where's the fallout? It's blatantly obvious they have killed people. Where is the fallout? Well, it's not "on the news"...

70% of the human population, isn't actually human. They are meat robots. You can't understand these people ONLY follow.

SunnyvaleCA says

To me it all looks like government incompetence and corruption.

@SunnyvaleCA - it's always designed to look like incompetence and corruption, when the government lies to people. Always. Iraq, Libya, Syria, Ukraine, "Russian Collusion", the vaccine...

Look, never attribute to malice what can be explained by stupidity, UNLESS it's the government. They always hide behind stupidity, without exception.

"Oh, Epstein somehow oddly committed suicide, and the warden of the jail got a promotion after he 'killed himself'" - OOPS!

These aren't mistakes.

The Chief of Police of Maui is John Pelletier, the same chief of police when the Las Vegas shooting happened. WHAT ARE THE ODDS? About 0. He's a reliable criminal, and he's hiding under a badge, and very well by the way. It was him ultimately responsible for blocking exit routes from the fire.

SunnyvaleCA says

"What are the odds it would go down just like this?" someone asks. That's not the way to analyze.

YES IT IS.

If a company did this, you'd be asking questions.

Water was turned off, we have the emergency system on every fucking cell phone now - they didn't bother with that, they turned off the water, we have an emergency system on television and radio they didn't use, they blocked escape.

You don't understand a conspiracy, most people do not. Cops just followed orders "block the roads" - "OK sir!" They had no idea they were killing people, but that's what they did. You don't have to be aware of the conspiracy to be part of one.

SunnyvaleCA says

But it's a huge step to say they purposely took steps (or didn't take steps) with the intention of killing people.

I'm not taking the step, the evidence did it all for me. Most of it comes from easily verifiable GOVERNMENT sources. The accounts I listen to are from residents who live there. It's only a huge step for you because you haven't done the research, or aren't willing to face a reality that fucks up your worldview too much.

I let that ego trip go years ago, time to face the music...

Instead of 'I want to believe' it's 'I refuse to believe'. Don't be a co-conspirator with the evil.

Patrick says

It's interesting - that pic is reminiscent of the Boston "Escape" album cover, while one of @Ceffer's epic memes showed Auqua Teen Hunger Force's Last Stand in the style of Meatloaf's "Bat out of Hell" album cover.

Memes are experiencing something akin to that which occurred during the Renaissance, where art progressed from cartoons to full realism and perspective.

I repeat intentionally murdered:
https://youtu.be/CoIF_7eSkyY

NuttBoxer says

I repeat intentionally murdered:
https://youtu.be/CoIF_7eSkyY

If that's you posting that, don't post on YouTube alone. Post elsewhere. YouTube, FaceBook, and Twitter all are absolutely infested with intelligence agents. I but that doesn't stay up for more than few days and even if it is, it won't be discoverable FROM YouTube.

Here's the thing. Why so secretive and non-standard about all of it? The best way to keep people from speculating is tell the truth and be transparent. So why won't they just do that? Simplest explanation, they don't want us to know. Because we wouldn't like what they'd say, and it would hurt them and their interests.

All you apologists saying this is just an accident, you're the conspiracy theorists. To believe that you have to ignore so many facts, it borders on religious fanaticism. But it's not religion it's government.

You have a lot in common with the Covidites and the Ukrainian warhawks.

NuttBoxer says

All you apologists saying this is just an accident

I never said that but I'm pretty sure I'm on your list. I merely poo poo'd the idea it's DEWs and said the fire started with downed powerlines from high winds which is correct.

Definitely not an accident but rather criminal negligence among other things...

That first lady is hysterical. I don't have time right now to watch it all.

just_passing_through says

NuttBoxer says

All you apologists saying this is just an accident

I never said that but I'm pretty sure I'm on your list. I merely poo poo'd the idea it's DEWs and said the fire started with downed powerlines from high winds which is correct.

Definitely not an accident but rather criminal negligence among other things...

That first lady is hysterical. I don't have time right now to watch it all.

Everybody in the video are reaffirming the fact of police blocking roads and exits to freeway. I don't think that particular thing was ever questioned here. But there is nothing there proving it was done intentionally to kill Lahaina peeps (and take their land presumably), especially taking into accout the testimony of one person on the video saying that police allowed vehicles from OUTSIDE of Lahaina to enter it.

The parallel with that East Palestine covfefe is obvious: the derailing is a fact, the clumsiness of cleanup and mitigation effort is a fact, but the jump to THEY CIA DERAILED IT INTENTIONALLY TO KILL ALL THE CHICKENS is a leap into the loony bin until any kind of evidence is provided. Which I don't expect to see because everybody who was supposed to get to the bottom of it has jumped on the next current thing.