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richwicks says

Patrick says

I have to wonder if this is some kind of "Alioto" again. SF Mayor Alioto would remove police so that property values would fall, then buy cheap property, put the police back so that values would rise, and then sell for a huge gain.

No question that's what they are doing.

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/harrowing-tuesday-november-14-2023

The City’s deplorable condition is not just a lifestyle issue. The City’s official dereliction of what is obviously a pretty simple security duty is literal property theft. By deliberately allowing rampant drugs, petty theft, and homeless mental patients to occupy downtown, the City has also accomplished the purposeful demolition of its commercial real estate market.

Hundreds of millions of private dollars have been vaporized, so that well-connected, donor-class oligarchs can snap up downtown San Fransisco real estate at pennies on the dollar.

They’re not even trying to hide it anymore. After last week’s spectacle, residents and property owners can see it for themselves: the City could’ve fixed the rampant crime problem anytime. They just haven’t wanted to solve the downtown crime problem.

Many people are still not allowed to visit their land after three months, and some won't be able to until next year. For those of us from California this should sound an alarm, as we typically see people back at their homes the day after a fire sweeps through the area.

Also heard another story of a family looking for their child who was told by "rescue workers" they weren't on the property. Family snuck in at night, found their son dead inside the house, and removed his body for burial. What the fuck..

And now the sirens in Tennessee have failed to go off...

NuttBoxer says

Also heard another story of a family looking for their child who was told by "rescue workers" they weren't on the property. Family snuck in at night, found their son dead inside the house, and removed his body for burial. What the fuck..

Unwrap this one for us: since it can't be the incompetence of the diversity hires working on "island time" it must be something planned and sinister. Was the body deliberately kept there so Soros could come and fuck it with a knobby strap-on? Is having a body on the property helpful for expediting property rights transfer to Oprah?

Would be nice if Ceffer also chimed in. We need his expert opinion here.

When you take the bread crumbs and silver, it doesn't mean you won't get the flame thrower or the bullet, it will just delay things. Natives needed a lesson that they never owned shit, and they were reduced to fertilizer for their arrogance, and that their children were food and tissue product spirited off by the demon-plex.

Space weapons? Whouda thought? How you gonna fight that with weed, booze, speed and ukuleles on the beach? I suppose the Globalists could have weaponized measles again, but too much resilience these days.

See tons of shit about Ukraine and Israel in the US new every day. Nothing about Ohio or Maui...

Have any of you actually looked into what it would take to make a space DEW? I saw a physics guy do a show on it where he went over some of the math and if you fired a laser (say like our military has) from orbit by the time it hit the ground it would be 2 football fields in size and low energy.

To get it to burn something you'd need a giant space mirror to correct the beam so large you'd see it flying around up there. Much larger than what we have on space telescopes.

Even then it would be a quick burst of energy somewhat like burning leaves with a magnifying glass when you were a kid.

Then there is the slow recharge rate. Maybe a small nuclear payload would do the job but it would still be slow AF.

I see burned out cars like that all over Maui even before Lahaina burned. People do it on purpose for various reasons there. (Stolen, or don't want to pay disposal fees etc)

https://wn.com/Directed_energy_weapons/news

There you go. Lots of DEW that's fit to print. Yes, they have invented capacitor banks that can be recharged by solar panels that allow DEWs and their computerized targeting systems to operate from satellites at weights that can be launched into orbit.

just_passing_through says

Have any of you actually looked into what it would take to make a space DEW?

Have you read what the government employees who work at the Maui DEW station said about their research and tech? How they successfully pioneered the first working system? Not even 2nd hand, direct from the horses mouth.

just_passing_through says

I see burned out cars like that all over Maui even before Lahaina burned. People do it on purpose for various reasons there. (Stolen, or don't want to pay disposal fees etc)

Feel free to post before and after photos so we can see it too. Just one car that someone has passed off as from the fire.

I've certainly seen a burned out car before, just not one with the metal running in a pool away from it...

If a laser, or in this case, most probably a microwave/maser weapon can be sufficiently collimated; i.e., create a directed beam of energy which does not spread or diverge appreciably over a few miles, then DEW is possible. Such techniques are possible - how do you think they steer 20+ TeV particle beams around a 27 Km track at the Large Hadron Collider? Maybe this was faked too, just like the moon landings?

Country of Niger, Capital Please . . .

Ceffer says

There you go. Lots of DEW that's fit to print. Yes, they have invented capacitor banks that can be recharged by solar panels that allow DEWs and their computerized targeting systems to operate from satellites at weights that can be launched into orbit.

Looks like a 1990s website. I never said DEWs don't exist. Space to Space, Air to Air, Ground to Ground sure but not Space to Ground.

NuttBoxer says

Have you read what the government employees who work at the Maui DEW station said about their research and tech? How they successfully pioneered the first working system? Not even 2nd hand, direct from the horses mouth.

I did a quick search yesterday (I was at work) but didn't find anything. Mind sharing?

NuttBoxer says

Feel free to post before and after photos so we can see it too. Just one car that someone has passed off as from the fire.

I've certainly seen a burned out car before, just not one with the metal running in a pool away from it...

I rarely take scenic photos when I'm in Maui, why would I take pictures of burned out cars? About 15 trips over 7 years and every-single-time I see multiple burned out cars. It really makes Maui look trashy and 3rd world. People there bitch about it a lot.

stereotomy says

spread or diverge appreciably over a few miles, then DEW is possible.

Satellites are hundreds or thousands of miles from the ground.

BTW, at @nuttboxer, I like the new icon - Texas flag has always been classy.

So look, the claim here is that some space laser flew over Maui (about 10 mins from horizon to horizon) and selectively shot certain houses (because some were left untouched) and certain cars (because the metal and glass melted) but left others untouched and was unable to burn blue things (because they used a stupid blue laser, which nobody would do) and burnt the fuck out of everything. That is wasn't simply a grass fire, started by mismanaged infrastructure that lazy government morons didn't protect.

Utterly science fiction. Never happened. I couldn't find the video I'd seen but it's super easy to find others.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MVs37rxJL0 <-- Like I said, about the power of a magnifying glass (if all of known tech is applied perfectly) and yes this can start a grass fire (grass in Maui is much more flammable than those sticks he burns) but it wasn't making friggin cars melt. Selectively! LOL... This also assumes as it's flying from horizon to horizon in 10mins that it's able to keep the laser over an area long enough to ignite.

There is also this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJWzvfnkwNQ

That guy uses the friggin Death Star as an example and HUGE arrays of mirrors in space to do this sort of thing.

Cars melting, blue things not burning is science fiction period. I deal with this sort of shit in biotech when I speak with marketing people. (i.e., I don't care what the FIB wants, you can't deconvolute DNA mixtures of 7 people in a gang rape)

Yes technically a space laser could have been the source of the fire up top of the hill but we have that 80mph wind, fire dept admitting they didn't wait around after extinguishing the fire after power lines fell down, etc., so jumping to that idea is a bit steep.

just_passing_through says

from orbit by the time it hit the ground it would be 2 football fields in size and low energy.

I think I was remembering microwaves, not lasers... The demo gets a half meter focus from low orbit. (With the power of a magnifying glass basically, that was melting metal and glass lol)

Texas is doing something worth supporting. And as I've mentioned before, I won't fly another countries flag.

On the burned out cars, can you at least confirm for us if you've seen any of the ones like the one I posted burned out before the fire? Meaning you know it was already burned, and someone is passing it off as fire related.

Here's a few links:
https://www.afrl.af.mil/Portals/90/Documents/RD/Air%20Force%20Maui%20Optical%20and%20Supercomputing%20(AMOS)%20Site_AFMC-2019-0163%20(1).pdf?ver=2020-08-26-102118-883
https://ladailypost.com/directed-energy-leader-dr-kelly-hammett-recaps-time-in-afrl-looks-ahead-to-space-position/
https://www.afrl.af.mil/Portals/90/Documents/RD/Directed_Energy_Futures_2060_Final29June21_with_clearance_number.pdf
https://www.afrl.af.mil/
https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/directed-energy-weapons-maui/

The details of how Maui was burned are not important beyond the fact that it was not a natural fire, and was planned by the government/deep state. Why do we give a shit about the rest? Knowing the above is true should be more than enough.

NuttBoxer says

Texas is doing something worth supporting. And as I've mentioned before, I won't fly another countries flag.

You plan to support Texas is to fly their flag?

NuttBoxer says

The details of how Maui was burned are not important beyond the fact that it was not a natural fire, and was planned by the government/deep state.

To what end? To transfer land to Oprah? Is it habbening?

just_passing_through says

Satellites are hundreds or thousands of miles from the ground.

Low Earth Orbit is around 200 miles. Lasers going through air can be "self focusing", this means that it heats up the air in such a way, that it causes focusing of the laser, instead of dispersal.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-focusing

Eric Holder says

You plan to support Texas is to fly their flag?

You mean will I travel to the border? No. If I wanted to do that, I'd start in my state, where we are flying illegals all over the country from Tucson. But I do other things to support freedom. What I teach my kids, having a plan for when SHTF, gardening, buying guns and ammo, using cash for 90% of my transactions, buying food from local farmers, losing my job for refusing to discuss whether I took experimental shots.

Freedom isn't won by big heroic acts for most of us. It's defended by small decisions we make every day.

Eric Holder says

To what end? To transfer land to Oprah? Is it habbening?

Maybe try reading the material linked in this thread. Bullshit headlines won't get you to the truth. Sorry if that seems dismissive, but there's so much out there, that at this point if that's really all you know, that's all you want to know.

NuttBoxer says

The details of how Maui was burned are not important beyond the fact that it was not a natural fire, and was planned by the government/deep state.

I can't argue with that. A very real possibility. I'm not even suggesting it was you who mentioned melted cars and safe blue things. Might not have even been this thread. I've definitely seen a lot of that on platforms other than patnet.

richwicks says

Low Earth Orbit is around 200 miles. Lasers going through air can be "self focusing", this means that it heats up the air in such a way, that it causes focusing of the laser, instead of dispersal.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-focusing

I think technically low earth orbit is 99 miles and change at it's lowest point. The self focusing lasers are terawatt pulse lasers and too big and heavy maybe to get into space? Either way we're talking about terawatts now and that's not happening from solar panels (that we can't see). Also if you don't want your space laser falling out of the sky easily you'd put it further out so there would be no air for n-miles or whatever to focus with.

just_passing_through says

I can't argue with that. A very real possibility. I'm not even suggesting it was you who mentioned melted cars and safe blue things. Might not have even been this thread. I've definitely seen a lot of that on platforms other than patnet.

I'm sure we did discuss it here. Certainly odd, but the stuff I'd rather focus on are things like that bright flash of light caught on a residents surveillance camera that didn't come from the direction of any electrical equipment. Or the hundreds of children who are still unaccounted for.

Holy F! Is this real?

https://x.com/theatlanteana/status/1756809247398998216?s=46&t=5lEEPaezr6Ic-W4Z6huZ5Q

The fire wasn't normal, wasn't caused by anything they tried to blame it on. Makes more sense than any of the official stories.

Eman says

Holy F! Is this real?

https://x.com/theatlanteana/status/1756809247398998216?s=46&t=5lEEPaezr6Ic-W4Z6huZ5Q

https://twitter.com/i/status/1756769753748668777

https://www.midwesterndoctor.com/p/lahaina-updates-and-mauis-battle

•Seven months ago, Maui was hit by unusual and devastating wildfires. Since that time, the world has tried to help the people of Maui, but owing to both the gravity of their situation and an inept relief response, many of the people there are struggling physically, emotionally and economically. This necessitates finding out exactly what happened in Maui and holding those responsible accountable.

•Many of Hawaii’s problems originate from it having a corrupt government which has effectively been bought out by the biotech industry. Because of this, a variety of harmful genetic technologies have been forced on the people against their consent (even when the people voted against them).

•The biotech sector has become increasingly bold in violating the foundational principles of medical ethics (e.g., the COVID vaccines were unsafe, untested, and ineffective, but nonetheless forced upon humanity). These violations are causing the public to lose their trust in the medical industry and the industry is responding to this by concocting even more reprehensible ways to force people to take their products (e.g., the WHO’s pandemic treaty or deploying self-spreading vaccines).

•A variety of lucrative biotechnologies are being developed to reduce mosquito levels. Maui has been chosen as the test site for a risky experiment which will irreversibly flood the island with harmful mosquitos that have not been tested for safety. This program (which Hawaii’s government is receiving millions for from the Biden administration) was forced through while the public’s focus was on Lahaina and appears to be being protected by Hawaii’s corrupt court system.

Not so much fun being a sacrifice to Moloch and having lives and real estate stolen, while trying to appeal to the same corrupt system you voted in expecting they gave a shit, as opposed to being part and parcel.

It came from space, it must have been and Act of God, not the Masonic Missionaries or their Globalist sponsors.

When you saw how top to bottom this whole gig was planned, from the Governor, the imported hit man police chief, the absent emergency officials and all of the foreign assets deployed (NATO?) to fence off and guard, you have a nice example of the prototype scam that can be expected from now on in many places.

The morons living in Hawai will keep voting Democrat no matter what, us the core problem.

UkraineIsTotallyFucked says

The morons living in Hawai will keep voting Democrat no matter what, us the core problem.

I'm arguing with one (in Hawaii) right now about climate change. I should just let it go...

just_passing_through says

I'm arguing with one (in Hawaii) right now about climate change. I should just let it go...

You are not 'arguing' with them. Get that out of your head.

Just get Abbott to send 10-20k illegals to the islands. Only about 4299 went to Hawaii in 2023. They've already got overcrowding and a stretched government budget. A decent amount of illegals will send them a running.

I don't understand the appeal of Hawaii. If I'm going to sit on a plane from my location for 9 hours, I'll just extend it and go to the south Pacific region like Fiji. I've seen photos from my family and multiple friends. It seems overhyped and expensive. My good buddy said Belize was better than Hawaii having been to both.

I can be in Costa Rica or anywhere in the Caribbean in 4 hours in spots that seem better. Costa spring break 2025 planning. So can everyone in CA. I think it's the only state I'm going to skip. Alaska is the last US state I want to check off the bucket list. I'm a beach and mountain guy, but images I've seen of Hawaii just don't seem appealing. And these are marketing images.

I'd rather go to Glacier or Alaska for mountains or USVI for beaches. Hell the FL panhandle has the best beaches in America. That's fact to those that haven't been. I do feel for the people of Maui, but the islands just seem overrated.

Obviously, you don't surf. Been to Tampa and Miami, didn't impress me much over typical beaches in Cali.

UK government talking about directed energy weapons. But surely such technology would never be used against the citizenry by their own government...

https://vidmaxviral.com/video/222550-newly-declassified-video-shows-a-new-laser-weapon-shot-from-the-sky-called-dragonfire