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https://rmx.news/article/if-poland-votes-in-a-conservative-president-it-could-be-a-huge-problem-for-the-eus-open-borders-and-green-agenda/

If Poland votes in a conservative president, it could be a huge problem for the EU’s open borders and green agenda

The EU would have a major headache if a Polish conservative won the presidency on June 1

A victory for Karol Nawrocki, the conservative Law and Justice (PIS) presidential candidate, would be a huge problem for the European Union and Germany. Nawrocki is expected to block the EU migration pact, the Green Deal and the Mercosur free trade agreement, believes MP Zbigniew Ziobro, the former Polish minister of justice.

God bless Nawrocki! I hope he wins.

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/comrades-monday-june-2-2025-c-and

Finally, more signs of the global conservative counter-revolution. Sky News ran the story yesterday, headlined, “Trump-inspired candidate Karol Nawrocki wins Poland's presidential election.” The sub-headline explained, “Karol Nawrocki had positioned himself as a defender of traditional Polish values, aligning himself with US conservatives, including Donald Trump, and showing scepticism towards the EU.”

For context, Nawrocki is a conservative historian. His opponent, Rafal Trzaskowski, 53, ran on a platform of expanding abortion rights, introducing LGBT+ civil unions, and promoting “constructive ties” with EU partners.

Poland might seem like a remote jurisdiction, but it punches far above its geopolitical weight. It sits all along Ukraine’s western border and is the key entry point for NATO supplies to the Proxy War. It also votes with the 27 other EU members on key initiatives in that conflict.

You will not be surprised that the EU’s voter surveys predicted Nawkrocki’s loss right through the exit polls. What would we do without polls?

Throughout the Cold War period, Polish people were courageous anti-communists even while squirming under the Soviet boot. Never count the Poles out. The conservative counter-revolution marches on.

Yup

From Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karol_Nawrocki

He was responsible for removing several Red Army monuments in Poland.

He declared himself an opponent of the EU's migration policy and announced his intention to terminate the EU's migration pact.

opposes adopting the Euro as Poland's currency.

He argues that Poland needs to achieve "full energy sovereignty". He supports nuclear energy, describing it as "the most secure and stable one". He also criticized the European Green Deal, stating that while he supports environmental protection, he opposes "climate madness at the expense of Polish homes, workers and entrepreneurs".

the foundation of Poland's security is a strong position within NATO

Patrick says

I visited back then. Commie cigarettes smelled like wet socks.

Do you have relatives there? What prompted the visit?

@SharkyP

Yes, my maternal grandmother was from Poland, and I'm still in contact with some relatives there. Visited them twice now.

Why can't we do that?

Patrick says

"Why can't we do that?"

Because the neoCons need to know how many fraudulent votes they
need to fabricate in order to steal the election. That is why it takes weeks
to count the votes. And that is why the fraudulent votes arrive at 3 am
days after election day.

https://ratiobradbornius.substack.com/p/after-commie-fatigue

This is the Polish PM taking down an LGBT display. This is what leadership looks like.

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2025/06/thierry-meyssan/eu-members-response-to-president-trump/

The NATO summit in The Hague could mark the end of the European Union. The President of the United States has announced that he may no longer be responsible for the EU’s security. If this were the case, there would be an urgent need to reorganize the stability of the European continent. Washington already has its solution: replacing the current German-based structure with a structure centered around Poland. ...

Let’s return to the hypothesis of withdrawing US protection for the 17 states that do not respect the 5% requirement. Donald Trump makes no secret of the fact that while the EU was formed under a secret clause of the Marshall Plan, it is now part of the “American Empire,” which he rejects. In practice, it only harms the United States (which he considers independent of the “American Empire”). Similarly, Donald Trump makes no secret of his support for the “Three Seas Initiative,” that is, the reorganization of the European continent, no longer around a reunified Germany (and therefore the EU), but around Poland and Lithuania.

This view of things corresponds to history. From the 16th to the 18th century, the Grand Duchy of Lithuania and the Kingdom of Poland constituted the “Republic of the Two Nations.” This binational state managed to protect its subjects from attacks by the Teutonic Order, the Russian Empire, the Ottoman Empire, and the Swedish Empire. However, due to the opposition of a section of the Polish nobility and its alliance with the Tsarist Empire, the Kingdom of the Two Nations was dismantled. However, during the interwar period, General Józef Piłsudski (Polish Head of State, later President of the Council of Ministers) imagined reviving the Republic of the Two Nations. This is the concept of “Intermarium” and now “Three Seas Initiative.” This intergovernmental body comprises thirteen states: Austria, Bulgaria, Croatia, Estonia, Greece, Hungary, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, and the Czech Republic. Moldova and Ukraine are associate members, but it is clear that Poland would only want northeastern Ukraine, that is, eastern Galicia.

Donald Trump, who participated in the 2017 summit of the “Three Seas Initiative”, also makes no secret of his desire for this organization to succeed the EU.

Wow, that would be interesting.

https://x.com/AdamMoczar/status/1953163210757931447

I agree.

Mass illegal immigration to Poland would be the end of Poland.

Karol Nawrocky about Russia and Germany:

https://wszystkoconajwazniejsze.pl/karol-nawrocki-the-polish-anchor-of-freedom/

Today, the Intermarinum, founded on the solidarity of Central and Eastern European states, could effectively counter the Russian threat and prevent excessive German influence in Europe.

The Russian Federation’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine has made it abundantly clear that freedom is not a permanent achievement. Poland has provided unprecedented aid to Kyiv, from offering military support to hosting a large number of refugees. NATO countries can also count on Warsaw.

@Patrick: sentence about Eastern Galicia from June 11 post shows that writer is borderline retarded. Poland does not want it, it is in Polish best interests to have independent Ukraine as far to the East as possible as a buffer state between them and Russia. Written by another Clucker or McGregor - their ilk have been wrong time after time yet they keep being stupid and people keep listening to them…

Russia was deliberately provoked to invade Ukraine by US State Department officials who have an ethnic grudge against all Slavs and want them to kill each other in large numbers.

Mission accomplished on that front.

US weapons makers were also delighted.

It's not that I'm a fan of Russia. I see the Russia-Poland relationship as similar to the England-Ireland relationship. A massive neighboring power with a bad history of stomping on the smaller country for power and profit.

But the US would certainly never allow Russia to put their weapons on the Mexican side of our border. So we should be able to understand the Russian objection to US weapons on the Ukrainian side of their border. Especially since Russia has repeatedly actually been invaded from that side, with devastating losses.

I think that Russia was deliberately provoked to invade Ukraine in the same way how Bush was deliberately provoked to invade Iraq, that is provocation was in the head of invaders. Furthermore, this invasion resulted, as expected, in Sweden and Finland’s joining NATO which puts NATO forces and weapons 75 miles from Russia second largest city which is St Petersburg.

Another data point is that Russians killed a lot of polish officials and military in a plane crash: https://notesfrompoland.com/2022/04/04/kaczynski-smolensk-crash-was-attack-decided-at-highest-level-of-kremlin/

This undoubtedly was one of their preparations for attacking Ukraine, long before fake provocations.

I don't see any similarity to the invasion of Iraq at all.

19 Saudis and one Egyptian flew planes into towers, and the US then attacked the Saudi's enemy, Iraq, based on a lie of "weapons of mass destruction" and completely ignoring the Saudi role in 9/11.

America promised that NATO would not expand eastward, but broke that promise. Then the US changed the government in Ukraine with a CIA-funded color revolution. Then Ukraine started shelling its own Russian-speaking citizens in the east.

But yes, I can believe that Russia may have killed a lot of Polish officials and military in a plane crash. They were also responsible for the massacre of Polish officers at Katyn, which was first blamed on the Nazis.

America did not promise that NATO will not expand to the East. I can not find any vote or any official document about it. However, America did promise that, after Ukraine gave up its nuclear weapons, it will protect Ukrainian territorial integrity. I can give a link to this formalized promise.

Also, killing of Polish officials seems like a logical prelude to taking over former Soviet influence sphere, meaning that invasions were planned well ahead of “coup” in Ukraine.

https://www.kunstler.com/p/the-artificial-demon

The long game for the neocon crazies has been to use NATO as the instrument to break up Russia and gain control of its resources. This was after Secretary of State James Baker told Mikhail Gorbachev on February 9, 1990, in discussions over German reunification, that “not an inch of NATO’s present military jurisdiction will spread in an eastern direction.” Starting in 1999 with the Czech Republic, Hungary, and Poland, sixteen additional nations were induced to join NATO, encroaching on Russia’s borders, with new military bases and missiles. It was a stupid game.

And it failed. Ukraine was the final gambit. The US destabilized it on purpose in 2014, installed a series of governments we could control, made it a ward of US taxpayers, sprinkled it with bio-weapons labs and money laundries, and gave Mr. Zelenskyy the go-ahead to start shelling the Donbas provinces adjacent to Russia. After years of that, Mr. Putin moved to stop it in 2022.

Bd6r says

America did not promise that NATO will not expand to the East. I can not find any vote or any official document about it. However, America did promise that, after Ukraine gave up its nuclear weapons, it will protect Ukrainian territorial integrity. I can give a link to this formalized promise.

Show me the Treaty the Senate voted on, otherwise it is just someone saying that.

Misc says

Bd6r says

America did not promise that NATO will not expand to the East. I can not find any vote or any official document about it. However, America did promise that, after Ukraine gave up its nuclear weapons, it will protect Ukrainian territorial integrity. I can give a link to this formalized promise.

Show me the Treaty the Senate voted on, otherwise it is just someone saying that.

Misc is right. All that was 'promised' was a worthless, non-binding diplomatic communiqué. It's business world equivalent would be a Memorandum of Understanding.

Wasn't worth a roll of toilet paper during the COVID fiasco.

But Baker's promise to Gorby was worth less than that, too. Gorby should have stood firm for a formal, binding Treaty that not only solidified that but also formally dissolved NATO. But he was in a very weak position or a fool or both.

I suspect that Gorby didn't really give a shit. That he only wanted some red meat to throw at his hard liners back home. Fat lot of good that did him, eh?

https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/the-fall-of-rome-20

while western europe stagnates, you can see the east exploding in growth. to be sure, some of this is because the base was so low after the ravages of soviet rule, but in many such places the output is rising to rich-world levels.

poland is about to overtake japan. (so is lithuania)

About to? Looks like it already did.

Patrick says

About to? Looks like it already did.

And the it will become Japan. At least the urban areas will.