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2023 Sep 11, 1:42pm   4,008 views  103 comments

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I am in Poland now, they soon have elections. An interesting and true ad for one of their political parties and referendum:

https://nitter.cz/visegrad24/status/1700131283333009700#m

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93   Patrick   2025 Jun 2, 6:05pm  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/comrades-monday-june-2-2025-c-and


Finally, more signs of the global conservative counter-revolution. Sky News ran the story yesterday, headlined, “Trump-inspired candidate Karol Nawrocki wins Poland's presidential election.” The sub-headline explained, “Karol Nawrocki had positioned himself as a defender of traditional Polish values, aligning himself with US conservatives, including Donald Trump, and showing scepticism towards the EU.”

For context, Nawrocki is a conservative historian. His opponent, Rafal Trzaskowski, 53, ran on a platform of expanding abortion rights, introducing LGBT+ civil unions, and promoting “constructive ties” with EU partners.

Poland might seem like a remote jurisdiction, but it punches far above its geopolitical weight. It sits all along Ukraine’s western border and is the key entry point for NATO supplies to the Proxy War. It also votes with the 27 other EU members on key initiatives in that conflict.

You will not be surprised that the EU’s voter surveys predicted Nawkrocki’s loss right through the exit polls. What would we do without polls?

Throughout the Cold War period, Polish people were courageous anti-communists even while squirming under the Soviet boot. Never count the Poles out. The conservative counter-revolution marches on.
95   zzyzzx   2025 Jun 3, 9:50am  

From Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karol_Nawrocki

He was responsible for removing several Red Army monuments in Poland.

He declared himself an opponent of the EU's migration policy and announced his intention to terminate the EU's migration pact.

opposes adopting the Euro as Poland's currency.

He argues that Poland needs to achieve "full energy sovereignty". He supports nuclear energy, describing it as "the most secure and stable one". He also criticized the European Green Deal, stating that while he supports environmental protection, he opposes "climate madness at the expense of Polish homes, workers and entrepreneurs".

the foundation of Poland's security is a strong position within NATO
96   SharkyP   2025 Jun 3, 10:04am  

Patrick says

I visited back then. Commie cigarettes smelled like wet socks.

Do you have relatives there? What prompted the visit?
97   Patrick   2025 Jun 3, 3:19pm  

@SharkyP

Yes, my maternal grandmother was from Poland, and I'm still in contact with some relatives there. Visited them twice now.
99   Patrick   2025 Jun 6, 9:37am  

Why can't we do that?
100   The_Deplorable   2025 Jun 6, 10:39am  

Patrick says
"Why can't we do that?"

Because the neoCons need to know how many fraudulent votes they
need to fabricate in order to steal the election. That is why it takes weeks
to count the votes. And that is why the fraudulent votes arrive at 3 am
days after election day.
102   Patrick   2025 Jun 11, 2:14pm  

https://ratiobradbornius.substack.com/p/after-commie-fatigue


This is the Polish PM taking down an LGBT display. This is what leadership looks like.



103   Patrick   2025 Jun 11, 9:24pm  

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2025/06/thierry-meyssan/eu-members-response-to-president-trump/


The NATO summit in The Hague could mark the end of the European Union. The President of the United States has announced that he may no longer be responsible for the EU’s security. If this were the case, there would be an urgent need to reorganize the stability of the European continent. Washington already has its solution: replacing the current German-based structure with a structure centered around Poland. ...

Let’s return to the hypothesis of withdrawing US protection for the 17 states that do not respect the 5% requirement. Donald Trump makes no secret of the fact that while the EU was formed under a secret clause of the Marshall Plan, it is now part of the “American Empire,” which he rejects. In practice, it only harms the United States (which he considers independent of the “American Empire”). Similarly, Donald Trump makes no secret of his support for the “Three Seas Initiative,” that is, the reorganization of the European continent, no longer around a reunified Germany (and therefore the EU), but around Poland and Lithuania.

This view of things corresponds to history. From the 16th to the 18th century, the Grand Duchy of Lithuania and the Kingdom of Poland constituted the “Republic of the Two Nations.” This binational state managed to protect its subjects from attacks by the Teutonic Order, the Russian Empire, the Ottoman Empire, and the Swedish Empire. However, due to the opposition of a section of the Polish nobility and its alliance with the Tsarist Empire, the Kingdom of the Two Nations was dismantled. However, during the interwar period, General Józef Piłsudski (Polish Head of State, later President of the Council of Ministers) imagined reviving the Republic of the Two Nations. This is the concept of “Intermarium” and now “Three Seas Initiative.” This intergovernmental body comprises thirteen states: Austria, Bulgaria, Croatia, Estonia, Greece, Hungary, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, and the Czech Republic. Moldova and Ukraine are associate members, but it is clear that Poland would only want northeastern Ukraine, that is, eastern Galicia.

Donald Trump, who participated in the 2017 summit of the “Three Seas Initiative”, also makes no secret of his desire for this organization to succeed the EU.


Wow, that would be interesting.

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