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RFK Jr. announces he's running as an independent.


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2023 Sep 30, 10:35am   4,647 views  128 comments

by Tenpoundbass   ➕follow (7)   💰tip   ignore  

I bet DeSantis does the same thing just to level the vote shaving playing field. But I'll go one further, I bet it was DeSantis' plan all along if his failing campaign doesn't turn around by November, he'll run as Independent.

I don't think DeSantis will make a dent in either parties numbers. But I wonder what the Left/Right leaning Independent voters ratio will be that vote for RFK Jr in the general election.
If you ignore all else and just look at the D next to his name. You would assume that all of the voters he would shave off any numbers, it would be the Democrats that felt it the most. But I'm not sure, RFK Jr. is more Conservative and more Patriotic than anyone besides Trump on the Republican ticket.
People who are fed up or worn down with the Trump hysteria, might opt to vote Independent for RFK Jr.
Of course we all know, that without a Party representation and saturation in every voting district in America to make sure the Indy votes don't get shit canned, or (Cured) changed to a Democrat vote. Then no Independent or 3rd party will ever stand a chance. Especially not in this era of compromised complicit Judges that tells real victims they have no legal standing, while actively persecuting any and all that brings Voter Fraud to the light.

RFK Jr. could get 75% of the actual vote, but on election day they would say he barely got 5% of the vote. While the losing party wring their hands, blaming him for their loss.

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39   richwicks   2023 Oct 14, 7:05pm  

Tenpoundbass says

The problem with quoting your source in this day and age. Most truthful news sources, are considered fake news


This isn't a problem. The problem is people believe propaganda. When you start seeing the truth, you will recognize it.

Tenpoundbass says

So when you say you read it and saw the congressional hearing live stream. They don't believe you. Make the listener look up the video rather than going to Joe Hoft's website to get his Opinion on what happened.


Give them a link to the livestream, they are archived. Give them the timestamps. People aren't going to work to find out you are right, and they are wrong. Make it as easy as possible.

A "news source" that cites a video, or a congressional report, that doesn't provide links, just skip them - or at least contact them and ask them to do this. 2nd party sources, should always provide references.

The corporate media is entirely useless, and a lot of independent media is as well. Alex Jones is pretty worthless in my opinion, and he used to be a lot better. Stew Peters started out of the gate as useless.
41   Eric Holder   2024 Jan 26, 11:09am  

What's his position on banning NG exports for the sake of "stopping AGW"?
42   stereotomy   2024 Jan 26, 12:41pm  

I can say, as someone who has lived in an area in Texas that was subjected to essentially unregulated fracking and gas flaring, that this shit is poisonous. The gases that come out are "burned off," but let me tell you, the toxic cloud they produce, which I have personally experienced, causes eye burning, shortness of breath, coughing, etc.

We went by some areas where the gasses had blown over. It looked like something out of "Stalker," that Tcharkovsy film. you could tell that the area was poisoned. This was 1/2 mile from a fucking pre-school.

Anyone who has never experienced this shit doesn't know what the fuck they're talking about. Until you BREATHE, TASTE, and REACT to the poisons that are personally assaulting you and your family, you don't know.
43   Eric Holder   2024 Jan 26, 12:57pm  

stereotomy says


We went by some areas where the gasses had blown over. It looked like something out of "Stalker," that Tcharkovsy film. you could tell that the area was poisoned. This was 1/2 mile from a fucking pre-school.


Tejas has been universally praised on this very site for having relatively lax zoning laws which allegedly lead to better housing affordability. Are you saying the coin has two sides?
44   stereotomy   2024 Jan 26, 1:18pm  

Eric Holder says

stereotomy says



We went by some areas where the gasses had blown over. It looked like something out of "Stalker," that Tcharkovsy film. you could tell that the area was poisoned. This was 1/2 mile from a fucking pre-school.


Tejas has been universally praised on this very site for having relatively lax zoning laws which allegedly lead to better housing affordability. Are you saying the coin has two sides?

What "coin" are you referring to? Resource extraction can be done right or done wrong. This is a matter for community and public debate.

Have you ever breathed the poisonous flaring gasses? Yeah, I thought so.
45   richwicks   2024 Jan 26, 1:26pm  

stereotomy says

We went by some areas where the gasses had blown over. It looked like something out of "Stalker," that Tcharkovsy film. you could tell that the area was poisoned. This was 1/2 mile from a fucking pre-school.


This is frustrating because it can be eliminated in a controlled burn, this guarantees it burns cleanly. What happened in Palestine Ohio was NOT a controlled burn. Controlled burn regulates oxygen and fuel to entirely burn all particulates.

It's just sloppy engineering.
46   stereotomy   2024 Jan 26, 1:41pm  

It's a fucking smash and grab. This shit can be done the right way. I caught them flaring in the middle of the night, I reported it, the regulatory agencies were a fucking rubber stamp. All these fracking waste wells, where they "sequester" the toxic chemicals used to pry the hydrocarbons from the shale, has a 100% failure rate after 10 years. Texas and most of the southern plains gets its water from the Ogallala Aquifer, which is a deep, paleolithic aquifer formed during the last ice age 20,000 years ago.

The problem is that this deep aquifer permeates most of the south and mid-south - it is contiguous. The waste wells are drilled down enough to contaminate the aquifer. The water supply for almost a dozen states in the south and southern plains is being put at risk.
47   AD   2024 Jan 26, 1:44pm  

richwicks says


It's just sloppy engineering.


Exactly as far as flares for drill sites. Just comply with industry standards like API standard 537.

OSHA would shut them down and then fine them.
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48   Eric Holder   2024 Jan 26, 4:53pm  

stereotomy says


What "coin" are you referring to?


Lax vs strict zoning, duh. Industrial plots allowed or not allowed to intermix with residential, this kind of thing. Strict zoning - profuse whining about "housing affordability". Lax zoning - profuse whining about noise, traffic, pollution impact of commercial activity close to residential neighborhoods. Two sides of the coin.
49   Onvacation   2024 Jan 27, 1:13pm  

stereotomy says

Have you ever breathed the poisonous flaring gasses? Yeah, I thought so.

I have, recently. I live in Martinez and our refinery flares a lot. You can smell, and taste, something kind of rusty and metallic when the wind shifts the output towards us. It's nasty and kind of makes you choke.

ARE THE FLARES SAFE?
Yes. Although flaring is necessary and an environmentally and technically sound safety measure, our refinery tries to minimize its use.

WHAT IS THE BLACK SMOKE?
Black smoke from the flare can occur when an insufficient amount of steam is available to help burn the hydrocarbons sent to the flare. Refinery personnel constantly watch the flare system via television monitors. If needed, they can adjust the steam flowing to the flare. In the rare instance of a sudden release of hydrocarbons to the system, there may be a delay in response before sufficient steam can be supplied to the burning process, and black smoke may be emitted.

WHAT IS THE RUMBLING NOISE?
Occasionally, during flare activity, a rumbling sound much like far-off thunder, resonates from the system. The rumbling that may be heard is the result of the turbulent mixing of vapors, air and steam during the flaring process.

https://martinezrefiningcompany.com/about-flaring/
50   Tenpoundbass   2024 Jan 27, 3:46pm  

richwicks says


Give them a link to the livestream, they are archived. Give them the timestamps. People aren't going to work to find out you are right, and they are wrong. Make it as easy as possible.


These aren't people disputing the authenticity of the videos. That would involve them finding out I am right. These are official videos of Congressional hearings I'm talking about here. In all of my travels here in South Florida I have never ran into anyone that cries "Source!?" after everything you say. Well except for my interloper friend. He loves to challenge everything I tell him, in regards to the flipside reality of MSM, just to yank my chain and get me going. I have learned to just laugh when he feigns Liberal stupidity.
51   richwicks   2024 Jan 27, 4:25pm  

Tenpoundbass says

These aren't people disputing the authenticity of the videos. That would involve them finding out I am right.


It would involve you copying a link, and if you're too lazy to do that, and you tell people that "I swear to god there's a needle in that haystack!!", they are right to dismiss you and ignore you.

Assholes don't post links when they make claims. You claim there is a video, you leave it up to everybody else to find it, you're probably full of shit.

How many times has the "news" media lied and claimed X and dutifully omit sources? That's why half the country think that Trump was "praising Nazis" in Charlottesville. They wouldn't post a link to the entire speech, and finding it now, is just about goddamned impossible.
52   Tenpoundbass   2024 Jan 27, 4:35pm  

richwicks says

It would involve you copying a link


Of course when I say, "the people I run into, in my day to day travels". The people I'm talking about are live in person, not the internet.
Surely you're not suggesting I have never sent a link in SMS? I think you're trying to shoehorn your agendas in my story. So you're injecting this other nonsensical bullshit, about not providing a link.

Are you really incapable of allowing people to tell you the goes on's, without shitting on it, or demanding a source. Then you're calling me lazy, why don't you have facts that counter what you're being told. IF you're one of "Those", which you probably are. I bet you like to play smart, and play the Devils advocate on everything your friend and family says.

If I have said anything not factual in this thread then you prove it, don't tell me to get a link. You sound like the Patnet morons back in 2008,, that would crap and shit on everyone that they felt threatened or challenged their political view. You could tell them had pancakes for breakfast, and they would demand a source.

Those kinds of morons are out of the scope of anything I mentioned earlier. So there you go!
53   Bd6r   2024 Jan 27, 6:50pm  

Eric Holder says

stereotomy says



What "coin" are you referring to?


Lax vs strict zoning, duh. Industrial plots allowed or not allowed to intermix with residential, this kind of thing. Strict zoning - profuse whining about "housing affordability". Lax zoning - profuse whining about noise, traffic, pollution impact of commercial activity close to residential neighborhoods. Two sides of the coin.

Zoning will not solve bad flaring methinks. It is a matter of if someone measuring how efficient their flaring is…the other side of coin is that I do not really see how flaring which is burning off methane can produce anything toxic unless you restrict oxygen intake.
54   HeadSet   2024 Jan 27, 7:25pm  

Patrick says






This is just RFK jr playing the part. RFK's purpose is to be a believable repository for enough votes to be stolen from Trump and assigned to RFK to allow Biden to win in a plurality. By sounding like Trump on the border issue, it lends credibility that some Trump supporters really did switch to RFK,
55   AD   2024 Jan 27, 7:29pm  

HeadSet says

enough votes to be stolen from Trump and assigned to RFK to allow Biden to win in a plurality


like Ross Perot helping Bill Clinton to win in 1992
56   HeadSet   2024 Jan 27, 7:35pm  

AD says

HeadSet says


enough votes to be stolen from Trump and assigned to RFK to allow Biden to win in a plurality


like Ross Perot helping Bill Clinton to win in 1992

Exactly.
57   Patrick   2024 Jan 28, 11:47am  

https://slaynews.com/news/democrats-panicrfk-jr-qualifies-another-2024-ballot/


Concerns are growing among Democrats as Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has qualified for yet another state’s 2024 general election ballot.

The increasing legitimacy of Kennedy’s campaign is causing panic among Democrats, according to The Hill.

The concern appears to be that Kennedy could take votes from the Democrats’ 2024 candidate – presumably Joe Biden – making it more difficult for the president to get reelected.

Kennedy, of course, used to be Biden’s top Democrat rival in the Democratic Party’s presidential primary.

However, RFK Jr. has dropped out of the Democrat primary, and he is now running for the presidency as an independent.

On Tuesday, Kennedy announced that he has qualified to be on New Hampshire’s 2024 general election ballot.
58   stereotomy   2024 Jan 28, 12:21pm  

Bd6r says


Zoning will not solve bad flaring methinks. It is a matter of if someone measuring how efficient their flaring is…the other side of coin is that I do not really see how flaring which is burning off methane can produce anything toxic unless you restrict oxygen intake.

Most of the flaring I witnessed, being conducted in the dead of night, was toxic. In order to completely chemically reduce toxic chemicals to their constituent elements, the burn temperature has to exceed at least 3000 degrees, and possibly up to 5000 degrees. To get a fire this hot, the operators have to use a lot of energy (more fuel, blowers to oxygenate the combustion, etc.). They don't have the money to do this, this is why they do it in the dead of night when no one is watching.

If these drilling companies had the money, they would store these gasses in big tanks that would be periodically drained and dealt with appropriately with minimal damage to the environment. The fact of the matter is that there is a giant loophole in TX law which allows operators to discharge any amount of gas, even without flaring, if it constitutes an "immanent threat of explosion" to the gas storage facilities. Guess what these scumbags do? Set up a storage tank which is not much larger than an industrial boiler and would store less than a day's worth of gas from production, then wait until 3 AM to conduct an emergency discharge/flareoff.

It's a fucking smash-and-grab, enabled by corrupt government and the big lenders who loan these operators millions and then get them on the hook for payments.
59   just_passing_through   2024 Jan 28, 1:08pm  

South Texas has a giant crooked smiley face seen from space at night that it didn't have when I was a kid. Flaring is a perfect application for mobile bitcorn rigs.

My grandmother (would be over 110 by now) lived in an old school pink house in Aransas Pass near the gulf. The stove she had looked like it could burn wood but I think it was gas.

Anyhow, she told me a story about local industry burning (who knows what) that produced so much soot they'd have to clean the black off of the counters, tables etc., every day. By the time the 80s had rolled around when she told the story I looked around and could hardly imagine it. No signs at all.
60   HeadSet   2024 Jan 28, 3:01pm  

Patrick says

On Tuesday, Kennedy announced that he has qualified to be on New Hampshire’s 2024 general election ballot.

That did not age well.
61   Patrick   2024 Jan 28, 7:21pm  

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4419119-the-un-american-disenfranchisement-of-rfk-jr-voters/


The un-American disenfranchisement of RFK Jr. voters

Every election cycle, we hear Democrats and Republicans complaining about “disenfranchised voters.” We have been told incessantly for years and decades that “every voter should be heard.”

That is correct. Except, it seems, when those votes may benefit a populist independent candidate, who, counterintuitively, is gaining in popularity while being ignored or smeared by much of the mainstream media, as well as the two major political parties.

That candidate being Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

It is fair to say that millions of Americans now support Kennedy for president. Just on X — formerly Twitter — he has 2.6 million followers and growing. Logic and basic math tell us his support would be much higher than those willing to take the time to sign up for X.

Do those voters — from every political ideology, color, faith and sexual orientation — have the right to be heard? Should they be allowed to vote for the candidate of their choice?

Obviously, the leaders of the Democratic National Committee and the Republican National Committee would prefer that their eventual nominees for president have no competition. They are partisan organizations entrusted with the task of getting their party’s nominee elected president.
62   RWSGFY   2024 Jan 29, 8:13am  

I don't understand the complaint: of course the opposing parties will smear another player in the field - it's politics. It would be weird if they praised and promoted him. And media are biased one way or another and this is how it was since there were media.
63   stereotomy   2024 Jan 29, 9:38am  

just_passing_through says

South Texas has a giant crooked smiley face seen from space at night that it didn't have when I was a kid. Flaring is a perfect application for mobile bitcorn rigs.

My grandmother (would be over 110 by now) lived in an old school pink house in Aransas Pass near the gulf. The stove she had looked like it could burn wood but I think it was gas.

Anyhow, she told me a story about local industry burning (who knows what) that produced so much soot they'd have to clean the black off of the counters, tables etc., every day. By the time the 80s had rolled around when she told the story I looked around and could hardly imagine it. No signs at all.

Yeah, but back in your grandmother's day, there was no Clean Air Act or Clean Water Act. As it is turning out, clean air and water was a thing from 1972 until about Y2K, but now we're back to the 19th century.

People on PatNet talk about the "true cost of EV." Well, what about the true cost of resource extraction? Communities poisoned for generations? The cost in human suffering? The reduction in arable land due to water and soil pollution?

Saudi can pump all they want because it's inhospitable desert. What about the microclimates in Appalachia razed for coal? Has anyone ever driven through the fracking belt around Goliad, TX? It's one fucking toxic cloud that dims the sunlight.
64   Patrick   2024 Feb 6, 12:09pm  

https://vigilantfox.substack.com/p/tucker-carlson-speaks-candidly-about


Tucker Carlson Speaks Candidly About RFK Jr. for 5 Minutes Straight
65   Patrick   2024 Feb 11, 6:15pm  

https://www.themidwesterner.news/2024/02/robert-f-kennedy-jr-challenges-biden-to-debate-to-prove-cognitive-ability/


Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. challenges Biden to debate to prove cognitive ability

Argued 'special interests in Washington, D.C.' want a president 'with cognitive deficits'

Independent presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. challenged President Joe Biden to debate to provide his cognitive abilities after the 82-year-old incumbent committed a series of embarrassing mental blunders this week.

Kennedy rallied supporters in Grand Rapids Saturday afternoon and spoke to reporters following the packed appearance.

After being asked about Biden’s performance during his high-profile press appearance defending his mishandling of classified documents, Kennedy said, “I think the issue has been raised, and I don’t think it’s character assassination to challenge the president to come out and debate to show the American public that he has the cognitive capacity to do this very, very difficult job.
66   AmericanKulak   2024 Feb 11, 7:20pm  

RFK's tweet including his Superbowl ad. I liked, retweeted, and encouraged all my groups to do so.
https://x.com/RobertKennedyJr/status/1756852942379045085?s=20

Some say he could spoil it for Trump, but I'd bet he takes 3-4 votes from Biden for every Trump loses. It's also much harder to steal a three way.
67   HeadSet   2024 Feb 12, 8:02am  

AmericanKulak says

It's also much harder to steal a three way.

Actually, it is easier. Just "dominion" enough votes from Trump to RFK for Biden to win a plurality. Then you only have to stuff enough Biden votes in the critical districts for Biden to get 45% or so.
68   Onvacation   2024 Feb 16, 8:28pm  

RFK JR.: THE HEALTH OF OUR COUNTRY
69   richwicks   2024 Feb 16, 9:22pm  

Tenpoundbass says


Surely you're not suggesting I have never sent a link in SMS?


I'm saying at this point in the Internet, if you make a claim and won't back it up, it's better to ignore your claim than to give it any creedance, because there are PLENTY of people who do, and are more than willing to back up their claims.

I can understand people passing on rumor and "what they heard" 15 years ago, they weren't as familiar with the Internet as I was, I had been on it for 15 years by that time. I don't put up with it today. 90% of what people tell me "they heard" is bullshit. Everything I hear on corporate media is bullshit unless they link to a direct source, and even then if they edit it, I ignore it.

We're not in a time anymore where we're restricted with information.

Let me demonstrate to you. This is a 9 HOUR long video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XTiL9rUpkg

At 2:33:40 you will see a slide pop up, BY ACCIDENT

And it's THIS slide:



ANY OF THOSE ADVERSE EVENTS LOOK FAMILIAR ??? Oh look. There is myocarditis, pericarditis, and DEATH in there.

Do you think that I found that? That I sat through 9 hours of boring bullshit, to find that? No, but SOMEBODY did, and they archived it, marked it, and made it available. Thank some other old fuck like me that cares about being accurate and exposing GROSS criminal negligence of our corporations and government! We're about 1 in a 1000 I think. Seems like a desperately small number of people, only 330,000 of us in the country! WHAT DIFFERENCE CAN WE MAKE?

You see, before they released the vaccines they knew they were going to cause harm, and even kill people. That video was from 10/22/2020 and was posted by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration.

If people would fucking link, instead of it being dismissed as "oh, ANOTHER conspiracy theory" - you can say simply "well, here's the proof", JUST LIKE I DID. Everybody could have known over 3 years ago, IF people would just use fucking links, a dim OLD technology for 30 FUCKING years ago. WHY WOULD ANYBODY WANT TO USE THOSE?????

The companies KNEW before they EVER released these "vaccines" what would happen, and they FUCKING did it anyhow, and the FDA KNEW before they released these vaccines what would happen, and they FUCKING did it anyhow.

There's DIRECT PROOF RIGHT THERE. But who gives a shit? Let's let all these people that POISONED 70% of the population get away with it scott free, and let's not inform anybody about the crime, let's be complicit!!!!~!~!~!@#$^&(*@^%$WWE%$Q#@$%FD

But because people can't be BOTHERED to take notes, or share links, shit like that IS passed around sourced by people LIKE ME, and they drop the links, and they just include the screen shot, and nobody knows where it came from or if it's even real, so they dismiss it. Spreading it stops even though it's ABSOLUTELY TRUE THAT YOUR GOVERNMENT PURPOSELY POISONED ABOUT 230,000,000 AMERICANS.

Now, imagine if I told you that picture existed, and then I gave you the video, with no time stamp, and told you "Well, go find it! It's in there, I SWEAR!" - WOULD you? No, of course not. It's up for just a second, and the only reason I could find it, is that somebody else gave it to me, and then, I could only see it by playing the video from the timestamp at 1/8th the speed, and taking a screenshot.

Even with that information, it took me a good long time to find, because I only had the original video and that picture, they LINKED to the video but not when it was in the video. I found it by matching the face, and by skimming through the video until I saw that head. Then I went to the start of HIS presentation and luckily it was early in, and I found it in a minute. Then I downloaded the video, and also archived it on archive.org.

https://web.archive.org/web/20240000000000/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XTiL9rUpkg

- along with about 1000 other people, so JUST IN CASE they try to remove it, I have a hard copy, archive.org has a copy, and COUNTLESS other sites have a copy. They can go ahead and delete it, it won't matter. We have absolute evidence that everything that is happening now was PREDICTED to happen.

Here, anybody have any doubts about your claim?



There, a QR code linking directly to it. Refute that mother fuckers. Pass it around. You will face censorship, deletion, and, of course, denial. Don't give them the opportunity. It's so simple to do that today, so FUCKING simple, yet, people refuse to do it, so it's relegated to rumor and speculation. "Oh, your tin foil hat is too tight, and you're off your meds again I see..."

You do not understand how sophisticated the propaganda is, or how widespread it is. Propagandists are on EVERY FUCKING SITE. Computer programs go through to flag shit at this point. Every site, including this one, is crawled. I guarantee it. I know this is true, because I know how easy it is to do, and how cheap it is to do today. I know how easy it is to record every phone call you make, every email you make, every site you visit, everything you do on any sort of electronic network. Believe me, it's done. I know precisely what you and I are up against, don't make it more difficult. It's hard enough.
70   AD   2024 Feb 17, 12:17am  

richwicks says

You see, before they released the vaccines they knew they were going to cause harm, and even kill people. That video was from 10/22/2020 and was posted by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration.


yep and they even said it was experimental since it did not go through extensive trials but they rushed it through as an "emergency vaccine"

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71   richwicks   2024 Feb 17, 12:26am  

AD says

yep and they even said it was experimental since it did not go through extensive trials but they rushed it through as an "emergency vaccine"


Well, the WEF is "rebuilding trust", not "correcting mistakes" - because this was not a mistake. They knew exactly what they were doing, and so did the governments, and so did the corporations.
72   AD   2024 Feb 17, 1:04am  

richwicks says

Well, the WEF is "rebuilding trust", not "correcting mistakes" - because this was not a mistake. They knew exactly what they were doing, and so did the governments, and so did the corporations.


Moderna was $20 a share at beginning of 2020, all time price at $449 in Sept 2021, and now at $88. It likely is going to get bought out at no more than $40 a share, or it goes to $0 by 2027.

Unless there is another pandemic which means back to $449, but I doubt that as you can't have another pandemic occurring that soon.

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73   stereotomy   2024 Feb 17, 7:17am  

richwicks says

Then I downloaded the video, and also archived it on archive.org.

Looks like "they" pulled it from archive.org.

I did go to the video and slowed it down and did see that screen. Those motherfuckers.
74   Tenpoundbass   2024 Feb 17, 8:47am  

richwicks says


I'm saying at this point in the Internet, if you make a claim and won't back it up,

I was generalizing about past discussions and topics that I have had with other people. What you're trying to do, is pick a topic that I never even mentioned and shoehorn some other discussion that I didn't have with anyone.
I will argue until I'm blue in the face that Covid was a big Nothing Burger, that the media and the NGO health officials and government health officials colluded to brainwash everyone that if they caught it they would die. I have argued the mask was bullshit, and the vax was bullshit. After that, I figure if you're a big enough dumbass to take it anyway. Than that's on you. Go look in every Patnet Vax and Clot Shot threads. You will never see me posting about what's in it, what it does to your body, and all of the hoopla surrounding it. I do point out that a lot of people who took it, died, or got a serious stroke. While I don't' know anyone what refused it, that has died unexpectedly or had an untimely stroke.

I know the VAX is bullshit, I don't have to follow all of the theories and conspiracies surrounding it. All of the are plausible I'm not taking the shot so I'm not interested in researching it. That should be the job of those that did take it. They should have looked into all of that first. I don't have to talk about what's in the vax. I know what's not in it. That is some magical cure that prevents people from catching Covid. It's the antithesis of what a VAX should be.
I don't need more informational amunition to argue that it's a load of Bollocks. I refuse to let those singing the praises of the VAX, get away with telling me, that they are up to date on the shot, and still got Covid, while trying to convince me that if they didn't take it would have been worse.
75   Patrick   2024 Feb 17, 11:59am  

https://twitter.com/ChristianM_74/status/1758343996294811815


BREAKING: Robert Kennedy Jr. has been granted a massive victory in his lawsuit against the Biden administration for colluding with social media companies to censor him and others.

RFK Jr. was able to win a preliminary injunction against the White House and several federal agencies as a federal judge ruled that the government was "insinuating themselves into the social-media companies’ private affairs and blurring the line between public and private action."

Judge Doughty said Kennedy provided substantial evidence that the Biden administration had coerced the companies into suppressing free speech related to Covid, elections, gas prices, climate change, gender, and abortion.

"It is certainly likely that Defendants could use their power over millions of people to suppress alternative views or moderate content that they do not agree with in the upcoming 2024 national election," the judge added.

The injunction is stayed until 10 days after the Supreme Court rules on Missouri v Biden, though it prevents the White House and other agencies from coercing social media companies to "remove, delete, suppress, or reduce... content containing protected free speech."

This is a major triumph for free speech in the country that RFK Jr. has won.



76   richwicks   2024 Feb 17, 4:21pm  

Tenpoundbass says


I was generalizing about past discussions and topics that I have had with other people. What you're trying to do, is pick a topic that I never even mentioned and shoehorn some other discussion that I didn't have with anyone.


I'm trying to explain why sources are important through demonstration. I'm pointing out that making EVERYBODY do work to find out what MIGHT be true is a way of exhausting people.

Most people are dependent on "authorities". That's why dummies still listen to Rachael Maddow and Sean Hannity for information, or Tucker Carlson for that matter. We are CONDITIONED to trust an "authority". Well, if the authority isn't giving out sources, ignore them, because sometimes they make mistakes, and sometimes, they just outright lie, or omit critical information.

If you stumble across an article and there's no feedback, ignore it. Don't even bother to read it. You can't comment on "news" articles, NOT because there's "too much hate" in the comments, it's because there's too many people calling out bullshit in the article. That's why people have abandoned "mainstream news", it's bullshit, and if people were allowed to comment on the articles for the last 10 years, there would be no bullshit in media. There's lots of sites that DO let you comment, then shadowban you when you find "errors" in their report. Do you think you're being shadowbanned because you're wrong? No, you're shadowbanned because you're blowing away their propaganda. This happens on YouTube a LOT and FaceBook, as well as Twitter.

Tenpoundbass says


I will argue until I'm blue in the face that Covid was a big Nothing Burger, that the media and the NGO health officials and government health officials colluded to brainwash everyone that if they caught it they would die. I have argued the mask was bullshit, and the vax was bullshit


People took it because they can't IMAGINE they could possibly be brainwashed, we all can be, including me even though I'm hyper aware of it. My example is to demonstrate what can be done, if people would simply include links. There should be a revolution at this point. Covid wasn't a "nothingburger", it was a psychological experiment that caused people real harm. There are people dead because of the lies. Don't let them get away with lies.

Tenpoundbass says


I know the VAX is bullshit, I don't have to follow all of the theories and conspiracies surrounding it.


Debunk conspiracy theories that are wrong, prop up the ones that are true. I HIGHLY doubt 20% of the population is going to die, but it's not a trivial number of people who have or will. A common method in propaganda to cover up a crime is to exaggerate it, so it's dismissed. "Oh the WTC were destroyed by directed energy weapons!!" - says Dr. Judy Woods on the payroll as a propagandist for one of the intelligence agencies.

Tenpoundbass says


That should be the job of those that did take it. They should have looked into all of that first.


Don't make it more difficult for them. Most people are cattle. Even if they stumbled across the screenshot I showed you out of a 9 hour presentation, the herd mentality is strong, and they would dismiss it. The screenshot alone they would consider "probably fake", and even with the video "well, this must not be important otherwise our free press would be reporting on it".

There is no free press.

That's the most difficult thing to get people to understand, we don't have a free press. Does all the media collude to push propaganda? How could that big conspiracy be true??? It is. Editors control content, and they answer to the owners of the press, which are not a group of investors, it's a group of people called the board of directors, and they collude.

That's the last hurdle. The cattle and sheep may not directly effect me, but they drag me along with them. It's a personal effort to undermine the credibility of our "press". Like I said, there's a tiny percentage of people like me, but we do add up. Before I die, I want the entire population to understand what propaganda is, how it works, and pass this information on to their children. We are making progress, the "mainstream media" is in tatters. People make careers out of making fun of it.


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https://debbielerman.substack.com/p/rfk-jrs-new-book-the-wuhan-cover


RFK Jr.'s New Book: The Wuhan Cover-Up

Review and analysis of a book that no major media outlet has reviewed and independent bookstores refuse to carry



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