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Waitup
2023 Oct 21, 10:11pm
Waitup
2023 Oct 21, 10:11pm
Would any Pro-Israeli on this forum watch this and provide their counter please?
https://youtu.be/UUxWw0dMkNs?si=GGDdS5fYshWQMTaW
https://youtu.be/UUxWw0dMkNs?si=GGDdS5fYshWQMTaW
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AD
2023 Oct 21, 10:42pm
AD
2023 Oct 21, 10:42pm
richwicks says
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_gas_in_the_Gaza_Strip
this is a major factor in the geopolitical background
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I doubt anything will stop this war. Israel has long wanted an excuse to kick the shit out of Gaza again, and now they have it. Israel just ignores the rest of the world and does whatever the fuck they want, in the same way the US government just ignores the country, and does whatever the fuck they want.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_gas_in_the_Gaza_Strip
this is a major factor in the geopolitical background
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richwicks
2023 Oct 21, 10:44pm
richwicks
2023 Oct 21, 10:44pm
ad says
Could be, but I doubt this is the major factor. Israel just wants to expand and wants to be rid of the Palestinians entirely.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_gas_in_the_Gaza_Strip
this is a major factor in the geopolitical background
Could be, but I doubt this is the major factor. Israel just wants to expand and wants to be rid of the Palestinians entirely.
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AD
2023 Oct 21, 11:03pm
AD
2023 Oct 21, 11:03pm
richwicks says
The feud has been going on for at least 100 years: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1929_Palestine_riots
With European pogroms going back 150 years, it just increased the rate of Aliyah.
Look at the demographics as I saw one stat that said 75% of the Gaza population is below the age of 25. So Israel views all of them as Enemy At the Gates, and wants to eliminate that threat ?
Could be, but I doubt this is the major factor. Israel just wants to expand and wants to be rid of the Palestinians entirely.
The feud has been going on for at least 100 years: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1929_Palestine_riots
With European pogroms going back 150 years, it just increased the rate of Aliyah.
Look at the demographics as I saw one stat that said 75% of the Gaza population is below the age of 25. So Israel views all of them as Enemy At the Gates, and wants to eliminate that threat ?
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Ceffer
2023 Oct 22, 1:49am
Ceffer
2023 Oct 22, 1:49am
What is he trying to do, hurt Moloch's feelings? Guess they aren't all buying the narrative.
https://t.me/SGTnewsNetwork/55276
https://t.me/SGTnewsNetwork/55276
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Ceffer
2023 Oct 22, 2:07am
Ceffer
2023 Oct 22, 2:07am
KMaf Nazis gonna be KMaf Nazis. Are the same ones that helped harvest them in burnt offering in Europe getting ready to harvest them in burnt offering again? The old school false flags and pumping of opposing emotions ain't what it used to be, eh, Moloch?
https://t.me/qthestormrider777/17867
https://t.me/qthestormrider777/17867
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Oct 23, 8:31am
fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Oct 23, 8:31am
RWSGFY says
That's your evidence!? I could make that with my shoe. Seems like you enjoy supporting war-mongering, but don't want to face the realities of the atrocities it entails. Your denial is looking really pathetic at this point.
So there is a crater after all:
That's your evidence!? I could make that with my shoe. Seems like you enjoy supporting war-mongering, but don't want to face the realities of the atrocities it entails. Your denial is looking really pathetic at this point.
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Oct 23, 8:34am
fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Oct 23, 8:34am
Ceffer says
Netanyahu keeps getting more unpopular by the day. I think this false flag is having the opposite effect he intended, and will be the final straw that unseats him.
What is he trying to do, hurt Moloch's feelings? Guess they aren't all buying the narrative.
Netanyahu keeps getting more unpopular by the day. I think this false flag is having the opposite effect he intended, and will be the final straw that unseats him.
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AD
2023 Oct 23, 8:45am
AD
2023 Oct 23, 8:45am
NuttBoxer says
Who replaces him ? Naftali Bennett ?
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Ceffer says
What is he trying to do, hurt Moloch's feelings? Guess they aren't all buying the narrative.
Netanyahu keeps getting more unpopular by the day. I think this false flag is having the opposite effect he intended, and will be the final straw that unseats him.
Who replaces him ? Naftali Bennett ?
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socal2
2023 Oct 23, 9:57am
NuttBoxer says
Dude - nothing is making you look dumber than still trying to push Hamas' ludicrous claims on the hospital.
Even the EU (no friend of Israel) is saying it wasn't an Israeli strike.
https://www.france24.com/en/middle-east/20231020-gaza-hospital-blast-was-caused-by-misfired-rocket-says-european-military-source
That's your evidence!? I could make that with my shoe. Seems like you enjoy supporting war-mongering, but don't want to face the realities of the atrocities it entails. Your denial is looking really pathetic at this point.
Dude - nothing is making you look dumber than still trying to push Hamas' ludicrous claims on the hospital.
Even the EU (no friend of Israel) is saying it wasn't an Israeli strike.
https://www.france24.com/en/middle-east/20231020-gaza-hospital-blast-was-caused-by-misfired-rocket-says-european-military-source
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Eric Holder
2023 Oct 23, 12:39pm
Eric Holder
2023 Oct 23, 12:39pm
socal2 says
IT WAS A TINY 10LBS ISRAELI JDAM BOMB CUSTOMIZED WITH A FUEL TANK TO MIMIC A HAMAS ROCKET MAKING IT A PERFECT FALSE FLAG OPERATION!!!! BUT THEY COULDN'T FOOL THE SOUND EXPERTS!!!! THE SOUND IS THE DEAD GIVEAWAY!!!!!
NuttBoxer says
That's your evidence!? I could make that with my shoe. Seems like you enjoy supporting war-mongering, but don't want to face the realities of the atrocities it entails. Your denial is looking really pathetic at this point.
Dude - nothing is making you look dumber than still trying to push Hamas' ludicrous claims on the hospital.
Even the EU (no friend of Israel) is saying it wasn't an Israeli strike.
https://www.france24.com/en/middle-east/20231020-gaza-hospital-blast-was-caused-by-misfired-rocket-says-european-military-source
IT WAS A TINY 10LBS ISRAELI JDAM BOMB CUSTOMIZED WITH A FUEL TANK TO MIMIC A HAMAS ROCKET MAKING IT A PERFECT FALSE FLAG OPERATION!!!! BUT THEY COULDN'T FOOL THE SOUND EXPERTS!!!! THE SOUND IS THE DEAD GIVEAWAY!!!!!
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Eric Holder
2023 Oct 23, 2:45pm
Eric Holder
2023 Oct 23, 2:45pm
How it started:
https://twitter.com/MOSSADil/status/1716165850967781887
How it's going:
https://twitter.com/MOSSADil/status/1716165963589079513
FUCKING ZIONIST TERRORISTS!!!! PRACTICALLY NAZIS!!!!
https://twitter.com/MOSSADil/status/1716165850967781887
How it's going:
https://twitter.com/MOSSADil/status/1716165963589079513
FUCKING ZIONIST TERRORISTS!!!! PRACTICALLY NAZIS!!!!
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RayAmerica
2023 Oct 23, 3:55pm
RayAmerica
2023 Oct 23, 3:55pm
I seldom, if ever, recommend anything that airs on PBS. This 1998 production is an exception, with several caveats. First, the documentary begins in 1948 by pretty much covering the exodus from Nazi Germany, and, anti-Semitic Europe. The elephant in the room that is missing is the history of the secular/political movement known as Zionism, which was founded by Theodore Herzl in the latter part of the 19th. Century. Herzl strongly advocated a homeland for the Jews in Palestine. At the turn of the century, Jews made up only 5-6% of the population, with the rest being Muslims, and Christians. By and large, the people of Palestine lived in peace with each other, that is, until Herzl's immigration policies began to be fervently followed. Unknown to most, it was this group of people that introduced terrorism to the region, in particular, employing terrorist tactics against the British after WW I. Almost all of this history is given only a slight mention in this documentary. Having said that, it is definitely worth taking the time to watch, being that it is fairly factual and balanced.
You'll notice that the below in only Part 1, which is over 2 hours long. I believe there are two other parts, all of which is available on Youtube if you are interested.
The 50 Years War Israel and the Arabs Part 1 Documentary
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=50+years+war%3B+Israel+and+Arabs+youtube&t=brave&iax=videos&ia=videos&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DZxSoa6AF4e4
You'll notice that the below in only Part 1, which is over 2 hours long. I believe there are two other parts, all of which is available on Youtube if you are interested.
The 50 Years War Israel and the Arabs Part 1 Documentary
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=50+years+war%3B+Israel+and+Arabs+youtube&t=brave&iax=videos&ia=videos&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DZxSoa6AF4e4
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AD
2023 Oct 23, 6:30pm
AD
2023 Oct 23, 6:30pm
Here is the narrative.
"Arab refugee problem" is the labeling for displacing and forcing out Arabs : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_exodus
"Zionist political violence" instead of Zionist terrorism ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionist_political_violence
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing
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"Arab refugee problem" is the labeling for displacing and forcing out Arabs : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_exodus
"Zionist political violence" instead of Zionist terrorism ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionist_political_violence
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing
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RC2006
2023 Oct 24, 5:55am
RC2006
2023 Oct 24, 5:55am
Israeli blackmail probably out in full force right now with leaders around the world.
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RayAmerica
2023 Oct 24, 6:05am
RayAmerica
2023 Oct 24, 6:05am
RC2006 says
Where are all those Epstein tapes, and who has them? LOL
Israeli blackmail probably out in full force right now with leaders around the world.
Where are all those Epstein tapes, and who has them? LOL
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Oct 24, 9:28am
fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Oct 24, 9:28am
Eric Holder says
My sources are Israeli government, and US military. You have yet to refute them...
IT WAS A TINY 10LBS ISRAELI JDAM BOMB CUSTOMIZED WITH A FUEL TANK TO MIMIC A HAMAS ROCKET MAKING IT A PERFECT FALSE FLAG OPERATION!!!! BUT THEY COULDN'T FOOL THE SOUND EXPERTS!!!! THE SOUND IS THE DEAD GIVEAWAY!!!!!
My sources are Israeli government, and US military. You have yet to refute them...
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Oct 24, 9:37am
fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Oct 24, 9:37am
Once again, Israeli citizens calling out their own government and IDF over the fiasco on October 7th:
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-palestine-war-captive-description-officials-unhappy
Israel government is upset they didn't have time to "prep"(threaten) the lady before she did the interview.
You people siding with the Israeli government and US imperialist agenda keep saying it's about the Israeli's killed that day right? So why do you keep ignoring Israeli citizens saying the government is culpable? I mean they're the ones who matter right? Keeping more of them from dying?
If you haven't taken a HARD look at the government's pushing this war, you are just like Hamas, because you support killing Israeli's. Actually you're worse than Hamas. At least they have reasons like religion, land dispute, attacks on their citizens. All you have is war for the sake of war. Disgusting.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-palestine-war-captive-description-officials-unhappy
Israel government is upset they didn't have time to "prep"(threaten) the lady before she did the interview.
You people siding with the Israeli government and US imperialist agenda keep saying it's about the Israeli's killed that day right? So why do you keep ignoring Israeli citizens saying the government is culpable? I mean they're the ones who matter right? Keeping more of them from dying?
If you haven't taken a HARD look at the government's pushing this war, you are just like Hamas, because you support killing Israeli's. Actually you're worse than Hamas. At least they have reasons like religion, land dispute, attacks on their citizens. All you have is war for the sake of war. Disgusting.
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Eric Holder
2023 Oct 24, 9:39am
Eric Holder
2023 Oct 24, 9:39am
NuttBoxer says
People are siding with Israeli govenment on the idea of ending Hamas as organization. People critisize Israeli govenment for being caught with their pants down in Oct 7. These things are not mutually exclusive.
You people siding with the Israeli government
People are siding with Israeli govenment on the idea of ending Hamas as organization. People critisize Israeli govenment for being caught with their pants down in Oct 7. These things are not mutually exclusive.
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stereotomy
2023 Oct 24, 9:44am
stereotomy
2023 Oct 24, 9:44am
If there wasn't a shit ton of oil there (middle east) we wouldn't give two shits what goes on. Let them kill each other until there's no one left, then move in. Oh wait . . .
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AmericanKulak
2023 Oct 24, 9:47am
Yes, it's a meme.
But yes, she's been at several pro-Hamas protests
AmericanKulak
2023 Oct 24, 9:47am
Yes, it's a meme.
But yes, she's been at several pro-Hamas protests
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AmericanKulak
2023 Oct 24, 9:50am
AmericanKulak
2023 Oct 24, 9:50am
The same two ladies who celebrate Hamas for Pallywood, also appear as "Bereaved widows/mothers" in another.
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socal2
2023 Oct 24, 9:56am
stereotomy says
If the US only cared about oil, we would have sold out the Jews to the Muslims decades ago.
Supporting Israel has been a strategic headache for America with very little gain.
The majority of Americans who are not retarded Leftists, BLM grifters and Islamists support Israel on moral grounds.
If there wasn't a shit ton of oil there (middle east) we wouldn't give two shits what goes on. Let them kill each other until there's no one left, then move in. Oh wait . . .
If the US only cared about oil, we would have sold out the Jews to the Muslims decades ago.
Supporting Israel has been a strategic headache for America with very little gain.
The majority of Americans who are not retarded Leftists, BLM grifters and Islamists support Israel on moral grounds.
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AmericanKulak
2023 Oct 24, 10:16am
AmericanKulak
2023 Oct 24, 10:16am
It's JuSt ThE MoSSad FaKiNg tO SmEaR dUh PooR PaLesTinIans!!!
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Oct 24, 10:26am
fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Oct 24, 10:26am
Eric Holder says
Good point. I just don't see nearly as much vitrol for the Israeli government as seems warranted for an organization that according to it's own people, including Hamas hostages, left them out to dry.
On the ending Hamas side, you know I'm for disbanding all governments, so I wouldn't argue for a second. But I will never support bombing, and denying basic services to citizens, even if it means ending a government I despise. Even if it meant ending our government.
People are siding with Israeli govenment on the idea of ending Hamas as organization. People critisize Israeli govenment for being caught with their pants down in Oct 7. These things are not mutually exclusive.
Good point. I just don't see nearly as much vitrol for the Israeli government as seems warranted for an organization that according to it's own people, including Hamas hostages, left them out to dry.
On the ending Hamas side, you know I'm for disbanding all governments, so I wouldn't argue for a second. But I will never support bombing, and denying basic services to citizens, even if it means ending a government I despise. Even if it meant ending our government.
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RayAmerica
2023 Oct 24, 10:28am
RayAmerica
2023 Oct 24, 10:28am
socal2 says
Except for the U. S. voting for the UN resolution which created the State of Israel, it was the official policy of the U. S. to remain neutral in the Middle East. Somewhere along the line, and, after intense lobbying efforts and pressure by Israel, the U. S. changed that policy to one that heavily favored Israel. Since then, it's been almost non stop chaos.
Supporting Israel has been a strategic headache for America with very little gain.
Except for the U. S. voting for the UN resolution which created the State of Israel, it was the official policy of the U. S. to remain neutral in the Middle East. Somewhere along the line, and, after intense lobbying efforts and pressure by Israel, the U. S. changed that policy to one that heavily favored Israel. Since then, it's been almost non stop chaos.
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AmericanKulak
2023 Oct 24, 10:29am
AmericanKulak
2023 Oct 24, 10:29am
RayAmerica says
Yes, because in 1967 the Soviets were dumping 1000s of T-55s, MiGs, and SAMs with 30-40,000 advisors into Syria and Egypt.
There's a reason the Israelis had Mirages in 1967 but F-5s in 1973.
It's called the Cold War.
Except for the U. S. voting for the UN resolution which created the State of Israel, it was the official policy of the U. S. to remain neutral in the Middle East. Somewhere along the line, and, after intense lobbying efforts and pressure by Israel, the U. S. changed that policy to one that heavily favored Israel. Since then, it's been almost non stop chaos.
Yes, because in 1967 the Soviets were dumping 1000s of T-55s, MiGs, and SAMs with 30-40,000 advisors into Syria and Egypt.
There's a reason the Israelis had Mirages in 1967 but F-5s in 1973.
It's called the Cold War.
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socal2
2023 Oct 24, 10:52am
RayAmerica says
Uh yeah - most people who aren't anti-Semitic are generally sympathetic to Israel after seeing Muslim/Arab nations start (and lose) numerous wars and terrorist campaigns to try and destroy Israel.
Palestinians inventing modern day terrorism that target innocent civilians (including Americans and Europeans) doesn't win over too many people either.
There is "chaos" because the international contingent of Communists, Leftists, Islamists and retards at the UN are continuing their efforts to destroy Israel and constantly provide Palestinians diplomatic and material support despite their refusal to recognize Israel's existence or negotiate peace.
Except for the U. S. voting for the UN resolution which created the State of Israel, it was the official policy of the U. S. to remain neutral in the Middle East. Somewhere along the line, and, after intense lobbying efforts and pressure by Israel, the U. S. changed that policy to one that heavily favored Israel. Since then, it's been almost non stop chaos.
Uh yeah - most people who aren't anti-Semitic are generally sympathetic to Israel after seeing Muslim/Arab nations start (and lose) numerous wars and terrorist campaigns to try and destroy Israel.
Palestinians inventing modern day terrorism that target innocent civilians (including Americans and Europeans) doesn't win over too many people either.
There is "chaos" because the international contingent of Communists, Leftists, Islamists and retards at the UN are continuing their efforts to destroy Israel and constantly provide Palestinians diplomatic and material support despite their refusal to recognize Israel's existence or negotiate peace.
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stereotomy
2023 Oct 24, 10:55am
stereotomy
2023 Oct 24, 10:55am
socal2 says
Israel serves to salve to conscience of what the US does in the middle east in general, as well as assuaging what it did turning away refugee ships back in the 1940's. I can bring a horse to water, but that's the extent of my efforts.
stereotomy says
If there wasn't a shit ton of oil there (middle east) we wouldn't give two shits what goes on. Let them kill each other until there's no one left, then move in. Oh wait . . .
If the US only cared about oil, we would have sold out the Jews to the Muslims decades ago.
Supporting Israel has been a strategic headache for America with very little gain.
The majority of Americans who are not retarded Leftists, BLM grifters and Islamists support Israel on moral grounds.
Israel serves to salve to conscience of what the US does in the middle east in general, as well as assuaging what it did turning away refugee ships back in the 1940's. I can bring a horse to water, but that's the extent of my efforts.
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HeadSet
2023 Oct 24, 1:46pm
HeadSet
2023 Oct 24, 1:46pm
AmericanKulak says
I wonder if they have Screen Actors Guild member cards.
The same two ladies who celebrate Hamas for Pallywood, also appear as "Bereaved widows/mothers" in another.
I wonder if they have Screen Actors Guild member cards.
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AmericanKulak
2023 Oct 24, 2:10pm
AmericanKulak
2023 Oct 24, 2:10pm
Horrific Genocide, population explodes several times in just 3 generations.
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Ceffer
2023 Oct 24, 4:27pm
Ceffer
2023 Oct 24, 4:27pm
Israel is a British Territorial State, on a 99 year lease from 1948, LOL! The renegotiation of the lease is pending. They agreed that when the British thought it appropriate, Israel would accept the British Monarch as their monarch (whoever and whatever that is, since the Windsors are the Protestant Envoys of the Vatican and not the genuine bloodline titular King/Queen).
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socal2
2023 Oct 24, 4:31pm
AmericanKulak says
Not to mention Arabs in Palestine are leading the world in obesity! But to the Leftist and Islamist Jew haters, massive population and BMI growth equals "genocide".
Words and facts have no meaning to some retards. They have nothing but feelings.
Same mentality we see with stupid Leftists when it comes to gender.
Horrific Genocide, population explodes several times in just 3 generations.
Not to mention Arabs in Palestine are leading the world in obesity! But to the Leftist and Islamist Jew haters, massive population and BMI growth equals "genocide".
Words and facts have no meaning to some retards. They have nothing but feelings.
Same mentality we see with stupid Leftists when it comes to gender.
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I've seen the Zeitgeist stuff and read the people who blame everything on Jews(especially in relation to banking). I don't find it to hold true, but when I see the obvious racism and bigotry on this site, especially in the last few days when it comes to Arabs, I have to re-think how much of a hold Zionist propaganda has on this country. I first became aware of it after 9/11, even before I knew it was a false flag event it bothered me the way people treat Middle Easterner's in this country. I've worked with Iranian's, Iraqi's, Pakistani's, and I've always found them to be some of the most polite, well mannered people. A lot of you here could stand some lessons from them.
From the same keyboards that denounced Ukraine and the violence in South Africa, I now read despicable language used against Arabs. No one wants to touch the stuff I bring up about Israeli government and kids, but you all want to call for actions that will murder more children.
Try re-writing some of your sentences, but insert Jew instead of Muslim, or white. Then read them again. I bet I could translate much of the South Africa talk with that same word change, and get most of you clamoring for more bloodshed to agree with it.
Look at the children in these photos, read the stories of how they died. Some are Israeli, do you find that odd? I don't, the military and governments involved in this are sociopaths, and pedophiles, and don't give a shit about your ethnicity, nationality, loyalty, or age.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-palestine-gaza-names-faces-children-killed-bombardment
https://www.itv.com/news/2021-05-21/more-than-70-children-have-been-killed-in-the-israel-palestine-conflict-these-are-their-names-and-faces