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socal2
2023 Oct 24, 9:56am
stereotomy says
If the US only cared about oil, we would have sold out the Jews to the Muslims decades ago.
Supporting Israel has been a strategic headache for America with very little gain.
The majority of Americans who are not retarded Leftists, BLM grifters and Islamists support Israel on moral grounds.
If there wasn't a shit ton of oil there (middle east) we wouldn't give two shits what goes on. Let them kill each other until there's no one left, then move in. Oh wait . . .
If the US only cared about oil, we would have sold out the Jews to the Muslims decades ago.
Supporting Israel has been a strategic headache for America with very little gain.
The majority of Americans who are not retarded Leftists, BLM grifters and Islamists support Israel on moral grounds.
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AmericanKulak
2023 Oct 24, 10:16am
AmericanKulak
2023 Oct 24, 10:16am
It's JuSt ThE MoSSad FaKiNg tO SmEaR dUh PooR PaLesTinIans!!!
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Oct 24, 10:26am
fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Oct 24, 10:26am
Eric Holder says
Good point. I just don't see nearly as much vitrol for the Israeli government as seems warranted for an organization that according to it's own people, including Hamas hostages, left them out to dry.
On the ending Hamas side, you know I'm for disbanding all governments, so I wouldn't argue for a second. But I will never support bombing, and denying basic services to citizens, even if it means ending a government I despise. Even if it meant ending our government.
People are siding with Israeli govenment on the idea of ending Hamas as organization. People critisize Israeli govenment for being caught with their pants down in Oct 7. These things are not mutually exclusive.
Good point. I just don't see nearly as much vitrol for the Israeli government as seems warranted for an organization that according to it's own people, including Hamas hostages, left them out to dry.
On the ending Hamas side, you know I'm for disbanding all governments, so I wouldn't argue for a second. But I will never support bombing, and denying basic services to citizens, even if it means ending a government I despise. Even if it meant ending our government.
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RayAmerica
2023 Oct 24, 10:28am
RayAmerica
2023 Oct 24, 10:28am
socal2 says
Except for the U. S. voting for the UN resolution which created the State of Israel, it was the official policy of the U. S. to remain neutral in the Middle East. Somewhere along the line, and, after intense lobbying efforts and pressure by Israel, the U. S. changed that policy to one that heavily favored Israel. Since then, it's been almost non stop chaos.
Supporting Israel has been a strategic headache for America with very little gain.
Except for the U. S. voting for the UN resolution which created the State of Israel, it was the official policy of the U. S. to remain neutral in the Middle East. Somewhere along the line, and, after intense lobbying efforts and pressure by Israel, the U. S. changed that policy to one that heavily favored Israel. Since then, it's been almost non stop chaos.
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AmericanKulak
2023 Oct 24, 10:29am
AmericanKulak
2023 Oct 24, 10:29am
RayAmerica says
Yes, because in 1967 the Soviets were dumping 1000s of T-55s, MiGs, and SAMs with 30-40,000 advisors into Syria and Egypt.
There's a reason the Israelis had Mirages in 1967 but F-5s in 1973.
It's called the Cold War.
Except for the U. S. voting for the UN resolution which created the State of Israel, it was the official policy of the U. S. to remain neutral in the Middle East. Somewhere along the line, and, after intense lobbying efforts and pressure by Israel, the U. S. changed that policy to one that heavily favored Israel. Since then, it's been almost non stop chaos.
Yes, because in 1967 the Soviets were dumping 1000s of T-55s, MiGs, and SAMs with 30-40,000 advisors into Syria and Egypt.
There's a reason the Israelis had Mirages in 1967 but F-5s in 1973.
It's called the Cold War.
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socal2
2023 Oct 24, 10:52am
RayAmerica says
Uh yeah - most people who aren't anti-Semitic are generally sympathetic to Israel after seeing Muslim/Arab nations start (and lose) numerous wars and terrorist campaigns to try and destroy Israel.
Palestinians inventing modern day terrorism that target innocent civilians (including Americans and Europeans) doesn't win over too many people either.
There is "chaos" because the international contingent of Communists, Leftists, Islamists and retards at the UN are continuing their efforts to destroy Israel and constantly provide Palestinians diplomatic and material support despite their refusal to recognize Israel's existence or negotiate peace.
Except for the U. S. voting for the UN resolution which created the State of Israel, it was the official policy of the U. S. to remain neutral in the Middle East. Somewhere along the line, and, after intense lobbying efforts and pressure by Israel, the U. S. changed that policy to one that heavily favored Israel. Since then, it's been almost non stop chaos.
Uh yeah - most people who aren't anti-Semitic are generally sympathetic to Israel after seeing Muslim/Arab nations start (and lose) numerous wars and terrorist campaigns to try and destroy Israel.
Palestinians inventing modern day terrorism that target innocent civilians (including Americans and Europeans) doesn't win over too many people either.
There is "chaos" because the international contingent of Communists, Leftists, Islamists and retards at the UN are continuing their efforts to destroy Israel and constantly provide Palestinians diplomatic and material support despite their refusal to recognize Israel's existence or negotiate peace.
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stereotomy
2023 Oct 24, 10:55am
stereotomy
2023 Oct 24, 10:55am
socal2 says
Israel serves to salve to conscience of what the US does in the middle east in general, as well as assuaging what it did turning away refugee ships back in the 1940's. I can bring a horse to water, but that's the extent of my efforts.
stereotomy says
If there wasn't a shit ton of oil there (middle east) we wouldn't give two shits what goes on. Let them kill each other until there's no one left, then move in. Oh wait . . .
If the US only cared about oil, we would have sold out the Jews to the Muslims decades ago.
Supporting Israel has been a strategic headache for America with very little gain.
The majority of Americans who are not retarded Leftists, BLM grifters and Islamists support Israel on moral grounds.
Israel serves to salve to conscience of what the US does in the middle east in general, as well as assuaging what it did turning away refugee ships back in the 1940's. I can bring a horse to water, but that's the extent of my efforts.
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HeadSet
2023 Oct 24, 1:46pm
HeadSet
2023 Oct 24, 1:46pm
AmericanKulak says
I wonder if they have Screen Actors Guild member cards.
The same two ladies who celebrate Hamas for Pallywood, also appear as "Bereaved widows/mothers" in another.
I wonder if they have Screen Actors Guild member cards.
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AmericanKulak
2023 Oct 24, 2:10pm
AmericanKulak
2023 Oct 24, 2:10pm
Horrific Genocide, population explodes several times in just 3 generations.
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Ceffer
2023 Oct 24, 4:27pm
Ceffer
2023 Oct 24, 4:27pm
Israel is a British Territorial State, on a 99 year lease from 1948, LOL! The renegotiation of the lease is pending. They agreed that when the British thought it appropriate, Israel would accept the British Monarch as their monarch (whoever and whatever that is, since the Windsors are the Protestant Envoys of the Vatican and not the genuine bloodline titular King/Queen).
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socal2
2023 Oct 24, 4:31pm
AmericanKulak says
Not to mention Arabs in Palestine are leading the world in obesity! But to the Leftist and Islamist Jew haters, massive population and BMI growth equals "genocide".
Words and facts have no meaning to some retards. They have nothing but feelings.
Same mentality we see with stupid Leftists when it comes to gender.
Horrific Genocide, population explodes several times in just 3 generations.
Not to mention Arabs in Palestine are leading the world in obesity! But to the Leftist and Islamist Jew haters, massive population and BMI growth equals "genocide".
Words and facts have no meaning to some retards. They have nothing but feelings.
Same mentality we see with stupid Leftists when it comes to gender.
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RC2006
2023 Oct 24, 5:02pm
RC2006
2023 Oct 24, 5:02pm
RayAmerica says
Isreal threatened Truman that Jews would vote as a block against him if he didnt go along with the creation of Isreal he would have lost New York. Many other U.N. members were also extorted by Jews to go along or be punished.
socal2 says
Supporting Israel has been a strategic headache for America with very little gain.
Except for the U. S. voting for the UN resolution which created the State of Israel, it was the official policy of the U. S. to remain neutral in the Middle East. Somewhere along the line, and, after intense lobbying efforts and pressure by Israel, the U. S. changed that policy to one that heavily favored Israel. Since then, it's been almost non stop chaos.
Isreal threatened Truman that Jews would vote as a block against him if he didnt go along with the creation of Isreal he would have lost New York. Many other U.N. members were also extorted by Jews to go along or be punished.
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RC2006
2023 Oct 24, 5:10pm
RC2006
2023 Oct 24, 5:10pm
RC2006 says
They also tried to assassinate Truman with a letter bomb. They would assassinate anyone against the Zionist movement including other Jews.
RayAmerica says
socal2 says
Supporting Israel has been a strategic headache for America with very little gain.
Except for the U. S. voting for the UN resolution which created the State of Israel, it was the official policy of the U. S. to remain neutral in the Middle East. Somewhere along the line, and, after intense lobbying efforts and pressure by Israel, the U. S. changed that policy to one that heavily favored Israel. Since then, it's been almost non stop chaos.
Isreal threatened Truman that Jews would vote as a block against him if he didnt go along with the creation of Isreal he would have lost New York. Many other U.N. members were also extorted by Jews to go along or be punished.
They also tried to assassinate Truman with a letter bomb. They would assassinate anyone against the Zionist movement including other Jews.
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AD
2023 Oct 24, 10:04pm
AD
2023 Oct 24, 10:04pm
NuttBoxer says
that is why you have to be your own 911 or first responder even in dangerous places like next to Gaza ... at least have a 9 mm handgun (or a very bar minimum a 22LR rifle that can hit below the waist with many rounds) ... these terrorists were looking for easy targets
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/middle-east/how-this-israeli-kibbutz-fought-back-and-won-against-hamas-militant/articleshow/104523195.cms
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that is why you have to be your own 911 or first responder even in dangerous places like next to Gaza ... at least have a 9 mm handgun (or a very bar minimum a 22LR rifle that can hit below the waist with many rounds) ... these terrorists were looking for easy targets
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/middle-east/how-this-israeli-kibbutz-fought-back-and-won-against-hamas-militant/articleshow/104523195.cms
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Oct 25, 12:00pm
fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Oct 25, 12:00pm
ad says
So your logic Israeli government builds this giant fucking wall, installs sensors, monitor the shit out of everything, then leaves for six hours? I'm guessing you're also fine with the complete stand down of the Air Force on 9/11...
these terrorists were looking for easy targets
So your logic Israeli government builds this giant fucking wall, installs sensors, monitor the shit out of everything, then leaves for six hours? I'm guessing you're also fine with the complete stand down of the Air Force on 9/11...
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AD
2023 Oct 25, 12:10pm
AD
2023 Oct 25, 12:10pm
NuttBoxer says
I have no idea what you are trying to state in your post.
I am saying it was set up to be weak. I think they got lazy and/or incompetent or just too complacent and let their guard down in those kibbutz near Gaza.
The Hamas terrorists exploited that they left their guard down.
Also those kibbutz are not hardened and armed like the orthodox or more conservative Jewish settlements on the West Banks. The kittbutz are more liberal and have residents like Vivian Silver
If the Hamas terrorists tried that on an orthodox Jewish settlement, they would have had almost every adult firing at least a 9 mm handgun at them.
And that is why you have left wing militants even pro-Hamas ones here in the USA that do not want Israel to loosen its gun laws.
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ad says
these terrorists were looking for easy targets
So your logic Israeli government builds this giant fucking wall, installs sensors, monitor the shit out of everything, then leaves for six hours? I'm guessing you're also fine with the complete stand down of the Air Force on 9/11...
I have no idea what you are trying to state in your post.
I am saying it was set up to be weak. I think they got lazy and/or incompetent or just too complacent and let their guard down in those kibbutz near Gaza.
The Hamas terrorists exploited that they left their guard down.
Also those kibbutz are not hardened and armed like the orthodox or more conservative Jewish settlements on the West Banks. The kittbutz are more liberal and have residents like Vivian Silver
If the Hamas terrorists tried that on an orthodox Jewish settlement, they would have had almost every adult firing at least a 9 mm handgun at them.
And that is why you have left wing militants even pro-Hamas ones here in the USA that do not want Israel to loosen its gun laws.
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AmericanKulak
2023 Oct 25, 12:24pm
AmericanKulak
2023 Oct 25, 12:24pm
Exactly right. In fact the settlement targeted was notoriously peacenik/leftoid.
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AmericanKulak
2023 Oct 25, 12:27pm
AmericanKulak
2023 Oct 25, 12:27pm
NuttBoxer says
Most of the Gaza "Wall" is just a very hair chain link fence and barbed wire, about 90km of it. Only the road entrance points are the concrete walls with the towers.
There was a draftee who did her service last year saying the systems were constantly in need of repair and it took days to repair them and they never caught up with the maintenance.
Also, it was a weekend and a Holiday morning - equivalent of Easter Sunday, and Hamas launched thousands of rockets in the early morning. The skeleton crew keeping an eye was probably exhausted at that point and I bet the handful of soldiers on duty were busy policing up rocket parts and checking for damage, way early on that holiday morning, which is why it took so long to get them back to base and concentrated to deploy out.
This happened before in 1973 but with an entire army. No intel service is perfect.
So your logic Israeli government builds this giant fucking wall, installs sensors, monitor the shit out of everything, then leaves for six hours? I'm guessing you're also fine with the complete stand down of the Air Force on 9/11...
Most of the Gaza "Wall" is just a very hair chain link fence and barbed wire, about 90km of it. Only the road entrance points are the concrete walls with the towers.
There was a draftee who did her service last year saying the systems were constantly in need of repair and it took days to repair them and they never caught up with the maintenance.
Also, it was a weekend and a Holiday morning - equivalent of Easter Sunday, and Hamas launched thousands of rockets in the early morning. The skeleton crew keeping an eye was probably exhausted at that point and I bet the handful of soldiers on duty were busy policing up rocket parts and checking for damage, way early on that holiday morning, which is why it took so long to get them back to base and concentrated to deploy out.
This happened before in 1973 but with an entire army. No intel service is perfect.
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Oct 26, 11:48am
fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Oct 26, 11:48am
ad says
Can I simplify? Ok, you build this giant super secure vault to store your money in. It's got timers, 15 key alpha-numeric code, the works. You hire a big ass security guard, and build a super secure wall around it, sensors in the ground to monitor for digging. Guys in towers on the wall to watch for aerial attempts, the works. Then you tell all the guards not t to show up to work, and leave the vault door, and door in the wall wide open. Who do you blame, the dude who takes your money, or you?
I don't think what I said was too hard for your to grasp the first time. Have you considered you may be in denial and therefore blinded to the truth?
I have no idea what you are trying to state in your post.
I am saying it was set up to be weak. I think they got lazy and/or incompetent or just too complacent and let their guard down in those kibbutz near Gaza.
Can I simplify? Ok, you build this giant super secure vault to store your money in. It's got timers, 15 key alpha-numeric code, the works. You hire a big ass security guard, and build a super secure wall around it, sensors in the ground to monitor for digging. Guys in towers on the wall to watch for aerial attempts, the works. Then you tell all the guards not t to show up to work, and leave the vault door, and door in the wall wide open. Who do you blame, the dude who takes your money, or you?
I don't think what I said was too hard for your to grasp the first time. Have you considered you may be in denial and therefore blinded to the truth?
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Oct 27, 10:22am
fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Oct 27, 10:22am
If I had a nickle for every person that said we needed to prevent violence with violence, I'd be a rich man these past few weeks. I don't understand why people don't see how ludicrous this outlook is. The Pre-Cogs walk among us!
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socal2
2023 Oct 27, 10:29am
NuttBoxer says
So you are a defund the police advocate too? Police have to use violence all the time to prevent greater violence.
How has that worked out for US cities and minority populations?
If I had a nickle for every person that said we needed to prevent violence with violence, I'd be a rich man these past few weeks.
So you are a defund the police advocate too? Police have to use violence all the time to prevent greater violence.
How has that worked out for US cities and minority populations?
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Oct 27, 5:26pm
fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Oct 27, 5:26pm
Israeli government knowingly shelled their own people on October 7th. According to an Israeli who survived, again Hamas treated them well, and only intended to kidnap them, not kill them.
This was never saving or protecting the Israeli people, ONLY about the Israeli state(government). If you can't see that at this point...
https://thegrayzone.com/2023/10/27/israels-military-shelled-burning-tanks-helicopters/
This was never saving or protecting the Israeli people, ONLY about the Israeli state(government). If you can't see that at this point...
https://thegrayzone.com/2023/10/27/israels-military-shelled-burning-tanks-helicopters/
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Reality
2023 Oct 27, 7:17pm
Using defunding the police to create chaos in American cities and statistically kill Americans only worked because some Americans had surrendered god-given right of self-defense to the police and allowed the government to disarm law-abiding city dwellers. Likewise, the Zionists used the Wall to disarm Israelis, and then could stand-down the Wall and its defenses at a moment's notice to let in mass-murderers roam among disarmed Israeli civilians.
No amount of funding for police would be able to prevent bankster agents occupying government offices to tell police to stand-down! What's needed is a good hanging of those agents who gave stand-down orders!
No amount of funding for police would be able to prevent bankster agents occupying government offices to tell police to stand-down! What's needed is a good hanging of those agents who gave stand-down orders!
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AmericanKulak
2023 Oct 27, 7:38pm
AmericanKulak
2023 Oct 27, 7:38pm
NuttBoxer says
Reality says
Evidence for this? Shrapnel wounds? The location of the batteries? How this happened in a close-knit country?
Israeli government knowingly shelled their own people on October 7th. According to an Israeli who survived, again Hamas treated them well, and only intended to kidnap them, not kill them.
Reality says
Likewise, the Zionists used the Wall to disarm Israelis, and then could stand-down the Wall and its defenses at a moment's notice to let in mass-murderers roam among disarmed Israeli civilians.
Evidence for this? Shrapnel wounds? The location of the batteries? How this happened in a close-knit country?
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Patrick
2023 Oct 27, 7:44pm
Patrick
2023 Oct 27, 7:44pm
Reality says
I'm still shocked that all those Israelis were disarmed. When did that happen?
I was there a long time ago, but it seemed like every other Israeli had a gun.
disarm Israelis
I'm still shocked that all those Israelis were disarmed. When did that happen?
I was there a long time ago, but it seemed like every other Israeli had a gun.
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socal2
2023 Oct 27, 8:25pm
Patrick says
It is my understanding that the rave party and kibitz’s were primarily left wing peace activist types of Israelis.
Reality says
disarm Israelis
I'm still shocked that all those Israelis were disarmed. When did that happen?
I was there a long time ago, but it seemed like every other Israeli had a gun.
It is my understanding that the rave party and kibitz’s were primarily left wing peace activist types of Israelis.
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RayAmerica
2023 Oct 28, 12:37pm
RayAmerica
2023 Oct 28, 12:37pm
Another 'older' video that reveals not all Jews are in lock step with the oppressive policies of the Zionists. Flash forward to today, and these same Orthodox Rabbis still maintain their same stand, and, suffer persecution by the Zionist State for that.
Orthodox Jewish Rabbis protest 42 years of 1967 Israel's seizure of the West Bank and Gaza.
View short video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9msgL2udHs4
Orthodox Jewish Rabbis protest 42 years of 1967 Israel's seizure of the West Bank and Gaza.
View short video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9msgL2udHs4
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Oct 29, 9:54am
fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Oct 29, 9:54am
IDF border surveillance saying they reported suspicious activity for months before October, and higher-ups purposely ignored it. A good reminder that not everyone is "in" on every false flag, and there are good people in any organization.
The Israeli people should round up these traitors and murderers, and force them into north Gaza so they can die by their own bombs.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/surveillance-soldiers-warned-of-hamas-activity-on-gaza-border-for-months-before-oct-7/
The Israeli people should round up these traitors and murderers, and force them into north Gaza so they can die by their own bombs.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/surveillance-soldiers-warned-of-hamas-activity-on-gaza-border-for-months-before-oct-7/
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Ceffer
2023 Oct 29, 5:14pm
Ceffer
2023 Oct 29, 5:14pm
One ponders if there isn't some deception of the deceivers going on here. British lease almost expired? Have the neocon infiltrators and name stealers been assured that America will step in to Israel's pending three front war? What if those field commanders with all the fleets stand idly by instead and only take on fleeing citizens and war refugees?
By any observation, Biden et alia can only send mercenaries and equipments. Have all the deception and intimidation of the various bullying KMaf Nazi billionaire officers and Rothschild Messiah fiat blackmail monies generated parallel fake organizations and players that pay lip service to Israel but will pull the rug out from under at the crucial moments, the deceivers deceived? Interesting proposition. Bibi or whoever he is has gone underground to nuclear bunker? Not without a few phony biblical quotations. I guess you could call it fake biblical news as pseudo justification.
https://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=231548
By any observation, Biden et alia can only send mercenaries and equipments. Have all the deception and intimidation of the various bullying KMaf Nazi billionaire officers and Rothschild Messiah fiat blackmail monies generated parallel fake organizations and players that pay lip service to Israel but will pull the rug out from under at the crucial moments, the deceivers deceived? Interesting proposition. Bibi or whoever he is has gone underground to nuclear bunker? Not without a few phony biblical quotations. I guess you could call it fake biblical news as pseudo justification.
https://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=231548
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Ceffer
2023 Oct 30, 10:52am
Ceffer
2023 Oct 30, 10:52am
"I'll see your Balfour and bump you WWIII."
https://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=231601
https://yandex.com/search/?text=when+does+balfour+treaty+expire&lr=103369&search_source=yacom_desktop_common
https://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=231601
https://yandex.com/search/?text=when+does+balfour+treaty+expire&lr=103369&search_source=yacom_desktop_common
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Ceffer
2023 Oct 30, 1:48pm
Ceffer
2023 Oct 30, 1:48pm
So kind of him to issue statements from his fallout shelter. What, no scriptural tutelage to foist that this is somehow a religious war? I think that psyops died an ugly death a while ago.
https://t.me/WW3INFO/26974
https://t.me/WW3INFO/26974
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Ceffer
2023 Oct 30, 1:51pm
Ceffer
2023 Oct 30, 1:51pm
"We have done our level best with our captive media to portray the people of Gaza as subhuman vermin begging for eradication. If that didn't work, so be it, we will fuck them anyway. They don't call us psychopaths for nothing."
https://t.me/WW3INFO/26975
https://t.me/WW3INFO/26975
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I've seen the Zeitgeist stuff and read the people who blame everything on Jews(especially in relation to banking). I don't find it to hold true, but when I see the obvious racism and bigotry on this site, especially in the last few days when it comes to Arabs, I have to re-think how much of a hold Zionist propaganda has on this country. I first became aware of it after 9/11, even before I knew it was a false flag event it bothered me the way people treat Middle Easterner's in this country. I've worked with Iranian's, Iraqi's, Pakistani's, and I've always found them to be some of the most polite, well mannered people. A lot of you here could stand some lessons from them.
From the same keyboards that denounced Ukraine and the violence in South Africa, I now read despicable language used against Arabs. No one wants to touch the stuff I bring up about Israeli government and kids, but you all want to call for actions that will murder more children.
Try re-writing some of your sentences, but insert Jew instead of Muslim, or white. Then read them again. I bet I could translate much of the South Africa talk with that same word change, and get most of you clamoring for more bloodshed to agree with it.
Look at the children in these photos, read the stories of how they died. Some are Israeli, do you find that odd? I don't, the military and governments involved in this are sociopaths, and pedophiles, and don't give a shit about your ethnicity, nationality, loyalty, or age.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-palestine-gaza-names-faces-children-killed-bombardment
https://www.itv.com/news/2021-05-21/more-than-70-children-have-been-killed-in-the-israel-palestine-conflict-these-are-their-names-and-faces