4
0

Israeli "leaders" must have known about the impending attack and let it happen


 invite response                
2023 Oct 13, 11:34am   24,903 views  229 comments

by Patrick   ➕follow (61)   💰tip   ignore  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/jilted-friday-october-13-2023-c-and


The Wall Street Journal ran an intriguing story yesterday headlined, “Hamas Militants Had Detailed Maps of Israeli Towns, Military Bases and Infiltration Routes.” The sub-headline added, “Documents found on Hamas militants show scale of planning behind deadly attack.”



Nothing like this has ever happened before. Michael Milshtein, a former Israeli military intelligence officer and head of Palestinian Studies Forum at Tel Aviv University, confirmed “There is nothing close to this level of planning in any steps Hamas had done in the past.”

The newly-discovered plans suggest more sophisticated actors must have been involved. One 14-page document described in the article was labeled “top secret” in Arabic and dated June 15, 2023. It described a detailed plan for infiltrating Mefalsim, one of the small collective communities near Gaza (called a kibbutz), and taking its residents hostage. The document included maps and aerial pictures of the town, and disclosed intel that the kibbutz held 1,000 “civilians” guarded by a volunteer security force.


I expect it was allowed to happen to distract everyone from other issues (like the death of 8 year old Israeli toxxine poster boy Yonatan Erlichman from a heart attack) and to provide justification for stomping on Gaza.

Not that Hamas isn't guilty. The murder of random civilians for political reasons is the very definition of terrorism. Hamas must be wiped out.

« First        Comments 190 - 229 of 229        Search these comments

190   RWSGFY   2023 Dec 28, 4:13pm  

AmericanKulak says

The_Deplorable says






https://twitter.com/jakeshieldsajj/status/1740025932893634769

You mean the guy who was twice charged (in 2001 and 2011) and once convicted (2011) of pretending to be a teenage girl to get teenage boys to show their junk to him online?

"Hurr durr, just because he's a pedo and multiple intel agencies don't have blackmail on him, doesn't mean he isn't right, hurr durr Zio always do this."



191   RWSGFY   2023 Dec 28, 4:15pm  

The_Deplorable says

AmericanKulak says

"You mean the guy who was twice charged (in 2001 and 2011) and once convicted (2011) of pretending to be a teenage girl to get teenage boys to show their junk to him online?"

Do you have any proof for this?
Answer: No!
Then what are you talking about?


Very easy to find:



https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/apr/15/former-un-weapons-inspector-online-sex
192   AmericanKulak   2023 Dec 28, 4:31pm  

The_Deplorable says


Do you have any proof for this?
Answer: No!
Then what are you talking about?

If you look beyond Atheist-Iranian Stooge Dawson and insane Lucas Gage, it's very easy to find. Oops, @RWSGFY already found it.
193   FarmersWon   2023 Dec 28, 6:05pm  

I think Russia was moving in from Syria side and Israel had to plan this attack to encroach more land for security.
Iran/Russia may be planning something via Gaza.

There are some fundamentalist religious nuts in Jews.. who are problem and make it hard to have sensible policy for Israel.
Unfortunately Israel-Gaza war is just extension or Syrian, Ukraine and other conflicts.

West is under attack by Russia/India alliance on one side and China on others. Difficult times ahead specially with "stupid Americans" who comfort Russia.
194   Patrick   2023 Dec 29, 1:43pm  

https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/on-the-sexual-atrocities-hamas-committed


On Thursday, The New York Times recounted in awful detail the sexual atrocities the men of Gaza committed during Hamas’s October 7 raid into Israel.

I know Jeffrey Gettleman, who had the piece’s lead byline. He is a serious reporter who served with distinction for many years in Africa. He doesn’t exaggerate.

Which is good, because the Times’s descriptions of these crimes nearly beggar belief. They go beyond rape, or gang rape, or even the execution of prisoners. As described by witnesses who survived, and confirmed by video and forensic evidence, Hamas’s attackers turned murder and torture into can-you-top-this sport:

The first victim she said she saw was a young woman with copper-color hair, blood running down her back, pants pushed down to her knees. One man pulled her by the hair and made her bend over. Another penetrated her, Sapir said, and every time she flinched, he plunged a knife into her back. ...

So. Why? Why single out women for this special abuse?

And the answer appears to be that the men of Gaza bore a particular rage for these women who lived free and secular lives - in particular the teens and twenty- and thirty-something women they captured at the Nova rave.

The freedom of these women, in particular their sexual freedom, became worthy of the most hellish punishment (un)imaginable. They were unworthy even of being vessels for children. And so they weren’t bred. Instead their sexual organs were mutilated and their bodies desecrated even as they were raped - and sometimes further after they had been killed.

That radical Islamist culture is incompatible with Western society is not a surprise, not to anyone who was awake for the atrocities ISIS committed. Yet even by those standards Oct. 7 must serve as a warning.

And women’s groups globally, including Muslim groups, are fools to ignore it - as they largely have. By failing to speak out and press less radical Muslim leaders to condemn the violence, they are setting the stage for their own degradation tomorrow.
196   Patrick   2024 Apr 30, 1:02pm  

https://bioclandestine.substack.com/p/trump-alludes-that-netanyahu-allowed


Trump Alludes that Netanyahu ALLOWED October 7th Attacks!

In Trump’s interview Time Magazine, he heavily criticized Netanyahu and his handling of October 7th, claiming that Netanyahu had all the equipment and capability to stop the attack.

Trump said, “They (Israel) have the most sophisticated equipment. They had — everything was there to stop that. And a lot of people knew about it, you know, thousands and thousands of people knew about it, but Israel didn’t know about it, and I think he’s (Netanyahu) being blamed for that very strongly, being blamed.”
197   richwicks   2024 Apr 30, 4:56pm  

AmericanKulak says

Been saying this for years. Almost all of the photographers and most reporters that are contracted/freelance for Western Outlets in the Middle East are pro-Muslim Brotherhood/Islamicist Terror.

Nothing can be explained to you.

I think you are a real propagandist. Correcting you is like trying to correct Rachel Maddow.

You still believe the CNN is left. It's establishment. There is no left and right

Because everybody works in the obvious wrong paradigm, were in this continual nightmare.
198   Ceffer   2024 Apr 30, 5:06pm  

Trump confirms the false flag. Of course, it was known inside and out of Israel within a day, record time. Thank you, speed of information. Does this mean WWIII is a fail?
199   socal2   2024 Apr 30, 6:24pm  

Ceffer says

Trump confirms the false flag.


Trump didn't "confirm" shit. He is just talking out of his ass (as usual) and still pissed that Netanyahu called to congratulate Biden in 2020.

If this was a "fALse fLAg" what is Israel waiting for? Why didn't they take out Iran's nuke plants this month after Iran's unprecedented attack? Why are they still holding back on Rafah?
200   richwicks   2024 Apr 30, 6:32pm  

RWSGFY says


The_Deplorable says


AmericanKulak says

"You mean the guy who was twice charged (in 2001 and 2011) and once convicted (2011) of pretending to be a teenage girl to get teenage boys to show their junk to him online?"

Do you have any proof for this?
Answer: No!
Then what are you talking about?



Very easy to find:



https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/apr/15/former-un-weapons-inspector-online-sex



It's misleading, he knew he was talking to an adult, and they were doing roleplay with her pretending to be a school girl.

It's just revenge for him speaking about what he didn't find in Iraq, weapons of mass destruction.

Dennis Hastert was a pedophile and Speaker of the House. One of his victims committed suicide. He abused kids on the wrestling team he coached. He got charged eventually with some sort of bank fraud he was paying out to keep his victims silent.

Our government doesn't care about pedophiles. When the government finds a pedophile, a real one, they use it as blackmail, and continue to allow them to abuse children.
201   PeopleUnited   2024 Apr 30, 8:01pm  

199
^this

There is a huge difference between having intelligence that your enemy is preparing an attack, and what Hamas did on October 7, raping, killing and taking hostages. Oh, and don’t forget the rockets they continue to fire at civilians in Israel.

I’m not defending Bibi, but he did not plan, nor execute the attacks of October 7, 2023.
202   richwicks   2024 Apr 30, 10:10pm  

PeopleUnited says


I’m not defending Bibi, but he did not plan, nor execute the attacks of October 7, 2023.


Who said about HIM planning it?

Israel fucking funded and supported Hamas. Here:

https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/did-israel-really-create-hamas/

That's all hyperlinked, it's all referenced, you'll never read it. It's well known that Hamas was funded and supported by Israel. Netanyahu is a fucking puppet, just like Joe Biden, just like Barack Obama, just like George W. Bush. Democratic Republics are a veneer.

Oh, Israel has a 43 mile long wall on Gaza, monitored constantly, NOBODY saw anything, it took HOURS for the IDF to show up, they have the Hannibal Directive, concert goers said they were fragged by the fucking IDF - NOTHING to see here. It wasn't on the fucking propaganda box, so none of that happened! Right?

And "Bibi" - what you want to fuck him? What a sweet fucking teddy bear name. Bibi. Just call him sweetheart of teddy bear, or something. The guy is a fucking mobster, a monster, and he's playing the part.
203   Ceffer   2024 Apr 30, 10:51pm  

PeopleUnited says

I’m not defending Bibi, but he did not plan, nor execute the attacks of October 7, 2023.

That means it worked. It really, really worked.
204   Ceffer   2024 Apr 30, 10:52pm  

Meanwhile, in Israel itself:

https://t.me/sitreports/26835
205   Ceffer   2024 Apr 30, 11:28pm  

It does mean that Bibi Moloch's (or the avatar, whatever these days) days might be numbered. Otherwise, Trump would not have made such a statement.

207   Ceffer   2024 Apr 30, 11:57pm  

Trump cracks me up.

208   PeopleUnited   2024 May 1, 1:11am  

Ceffer says

PeopleUnited says


I’m not defending Bibi, but he did not plan, nor execute the attacks of October 7, 2023.

That means it worked. It really, really worked.

It = the attack by Hamas terrorists on Israeli civilians
Worked = destabilized the Middle East, starting a renewed regional war and enriched weapons manufacturers while causing divisions in Europe and America.

Just like the Satanic globalists wanted.
209   fdhfoiehfeoi   2024 May 1, 11:27am  

RWSGFY says

Very easy to find:


This may surprise you, but were you aware pedophiles are capable of telling the truth? Way to prove the source has an disreputable character, but that doesn't prove what he said is false. Now if you were asking him to give you an opinion on age of consent, I could see your point. But you aren't. You're just throwing out the baby with the bathwater. Very liberal of you comrade..
210   Ceffer   2024 May 1, 11:36am  

PeopleUnited says


It = the attack by Hamas terrorists on Israeli civilians

Facts not in evidence. If it's the Uniside, it was collaboration. Many of the casualties on Israelis were inflicted by Israeli aerial gunboats. Fog of War: as soon as the 'hostilities' start, both sides start lying like thieves to ramp up the allegations of atrocities against the other to keep the 'conflict' going. As usual, the truth is the first victim and that's the way they like it. He who lies loudest and longest prevails? Who commands the best bullhorns?

PeopleUnited says


Worked = destabilized the Middle East, starting a renewed regional war and enriched weapons manufacturers while causing divisions in Europe and America.

Just like the Satanic globalists wanted.

Well, that part is right. It's just a matter of how they can displace origins, sources, motives and blame.
211   Eric Holder   2024 May 1, 1:20pm  

personal
212   RayAmerica   2024 May 1, 2:33pm  

Are Governments willing to purposely sacrifice the lives of thousands of their own citizens if it leads to the achievement of their geo-political goals?

Do you even need to ask yourself this question?
213   AmericanKulak   2024 May 1, 3:19pm  

Ceffer says


Trump confirms the false flag.

It's not a false flag Trump is possibly alleging. There's no doubt Hamas attacked, and the world was pumped full of video taken by the perps livestreaming their killings.
214   richwicks   2024 May 1, 4:02pm  

Eric Holder says


And just like that NB is taking pedos' words as a gospel.


Scott Ritter was correct that Saddam Hussein didn't have a weapons of mass destruction program in Iraq.

Do you dispute this?

Do you dispute this?

Answer, do you dispute this?

I bet you won't answer.

Let's say Ritter was fucking kids, let's just assume that happened tons. 800,000 Iraqis are dead because of that stupid fucking war over a fucking lie. How many were kids? Pretty good bet it's more than 1000. If Ritter was able to stop that war, I wouldn't care how many kids he fucked, IF he was able to stop that war, and if I knew he stopped it, and he wasn't able to stop it. He tried. That's why they went after him, ONLY reason. He THREATENED to stop that war, so they punished him as hard as they possibly could, and that was it.

Have some fucking perspective.

Ritter wasn't targeted because he's a pedophile. He was targeted because he pointed out the Bush administration lied to start a horrific war. Our government doesn't care about pedophiles, you goddamned well know this:



It's been proven, over and over and over again. Either you're an idiot, and I don't really know any truly stupid people, or you're immoral. I know lots of immoral people - most people are immoral. This idea that Satan runs the world? People like you do. Go along to get along, keep your head down. I'm not evil, much to my detriment.

Here's a question - kill a kid and make a billion dollars, or kill yourself - given those choices which would you pick? You're guaranteed not to be caught. I don't give a shit what you're going to tell me, but I'll tell you what I'd do, I'd kill myself without any reservation for any kid.

It seems impossible to me you haven't gone through the logic I just did, you must have, an idiot up to a genius would. Just the despicability of the world is over-whelming to me. Our government doesn't give a FUCK about pedophiles, Dennis Hastert was a pedophile, and Speaker of the House under George W. Bush. Why didn't they prosecute him for fucking kids, getting one to kill himself? Because he went along to get along to do that war, that murdered 800,000 people over a lie. That's why they looked the other way. Hastert wasn't just propositioning kids, which is what Ritter was convicted of, he fucked them. Name a victim of Scott Ritter? Any idea who Steven Reinboldt is? Killed himself in 1995.

So fucking stop to PRETEND to fret over Ritter's conviction. You don't give a shit. Just like those liberal talking heads that pretended to care that Trump was "out of his mind", and covers up we have a senile, corrupt pedophile, who is selling his office through his crackwhore son who makes "art" for bribes. Stop pretending. What is your morality? Do you have any?
215   PeopleUnited   2024 May 1, 7:57pm  

Ceffer says

Facts not in evidence. If it's the Uniside, it was collaboration. Many of the casualties on Israelis were inflicted by Israeli aerial gunboats. Fog of War: as soon as the 'hostilities' start, both sides start lying like thieves to ramp up the allegations of atrocities against the other to keep the 'conflict' going. As usual, the truth is the first victim and that's the way they like it.

The truth is Hamas crossed over, killed people, took hostages, and celebrated it with live-streams. They still have hostages. They have called for others to attack, and others have.

You don’t have to like Israel, but clearly they were attacked, and the fact Iran, Houthis in Yemen, Hezbollah in Lebanon continue to threaten and attack is further evidence that Israel did not pick this fight. The Islamic antisemites started this battle. It will end when the antisemites agree to peace.
216   richwicks   2024 May 2, 7:42am  

PeopleUnited says

They have called for others to attack, and others have.

Where and how?

Stop spreading bullshit
217   fdhfoiehfeoi   2024 May 2, 8:22am  

@Eric Holder I reported you because you don't have any quotes from me to support those accusations, so your comment is just an attempt to slander my character, because I pointed out the huge logic gap in your argument. Only liars resort to this type of behavior, because the truth is it's own defense.

Are you so desperate to never appear wrong that this is how you choose to interact now?
218   richwicks   2024 May 2, 8:27am  

NuttBoxer says

Eric Holder I reported you because you don't have any quotes from me to support those accusations, so your comment is just an attempt to slander my character, because I pointed out the huge logic gap in your argument. Only liars resort to this type of behavior, because the truth is it's own defense.

Are you so desperate to never appear wrong that this is how you choose to interact now?

My opinion is he's just a scumbag. Go over his past posts, judge for yourself.
220   Patrick   2024 May 22, 7:37pm  

https://cjhopkins.substack.com/p/asymmetric-idiocy


Do you seriously believe that the leadership of Hamas did not know exactly how Israel would respond to the slaughter of hundreds of Israeli citizens, families, children, people at a rave? If you honestly believe that, I don’t know what to say.

The goal of the “Al-Aqsa Flood” attack was to provoke precisely the response it has provoked. There is nothing mysterious or complicated about this. It is Asymmetric Warfare 101, straight out of the Terrorism textbook.


Israel allowed Hamas to attack on Oct 7th in order to have a justification for attacking Hamas in Gaza, and Hamas was delighted with Israel's even larger slaughter of Palestinians.

Both sides are simply arranging for their own people to be murdered to gain sympathy points in the media.


221   fdhfoiehfeoi   2024 May 22, 8:20pm  

Sympathy isn't much of an incentive. I'd say more likely reasons include Hamas leadership needing to refill the coffers, Israel wanting the land, US wanting the resources. But the even more likely scenario is deep state wanting to test out mass extermination, gauge people's tolerance for it, create yet another divisive topic to divide morons, child trafficking, money laundering, bringing US citizens closer to 3rd World status, and good ol' Satanic sacrifices.
222   gabbar   2024 May 23, 2:44am  

Patrick says

Israel allowed Hamas to attack on Oct 7th in order to have a justification for attacking Hamas in Gaza, and Hamas was delighted with Israel's even larger slaughter of Palestinians.

Both sides are simply arranging for their own people to be murdered to gain sympathy points in the media.

Now we have animosity that will last for generations.
223   PeopleUnited   2024 May 23, 5:21am  

Patrick says


Both sides are simply arranging for their own people to be murdered to gain sympathy points in the media.

It is war. It is not about people, or saving lives. It certainly is not about quality of life or freedom or any of those great ideals that Americans are used to hearing as reasons for war. It is about WINNING. Hamas hoped their attack would rally other Islamic terrorists to join the fight. Hamas wants to destroy Israel from the river to the sea. They hoped their attack would be the spark that ignites a larger Islamic war to destroy Israel. It still might be that spark and blaming Israel for the attack plays right into Hamas’s plan to defeat Israel.
226   Ceffer   2024 Jun 13, 5:09pm  

It's hell on the people when both sides worship Satan and one employs the other. Uniside forever!
227   Patrick   2024 Aug 19, 3:22pm  

https://x.com/Nero/status/1824919834066559111

Milo saying that Israeli's leaders must have known about the attack and deliberately let it happen.

228   RWSGFY   2024 Aug 28, 9:28am  

Also: Moscow regime leaders knew about impeding attack on Kursk and let it happen.
229   Patrick   2024 Sep 4, 7:05am  

https://ground.news/article/us-prosecutors-charge-hamas-leaders-in-october-7-attack_934e7b


US prosecutors charge Hamas leaders in October 7 attack


Wait, what? How does US have any jurisdiction in a foreign country?

« First        Comments 190 - 229 of 229        Search these comments

Please register to comment:

api   best comments   contact   latest images   memes   one year ago   random   suggestions   gaiste