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Israeli "leaders" must have known about the impending attack and let it happen


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2023 Oct 13, 11:34am   24,908 views  229 comments

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https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/jilted-friday-october-13-2023-c-and


The Wall Street Journal ran an intriguing story yesterday headlined, “Hamas Militants Had Detailed Maps of Israeli Towns, Military Bases and Infiltration Routes.” The sub-headline added, “Documents found on Hamas militants show scale of planning behind deadly attack.”



Nothing like this has ever happened before. Michael Milshtein, a former Israeli military intelligence officer and head of Palestinian Studies Forum at Tel Aviv University, confirmed “There is nothing close to this level of planning in any steps Hamas had done in the past.”

The newly-discovered plans suggest more sophisticated actors must have been involved. One 14-page document described in the article was labeled “top secret” in Arabic and dated June 15, 2023. It described a detailed plan for infiltrating Mefalsim, one of the small collective communities near Gaza (called a kibbutz), and taking its residents hostage. The document included maps and aerial pictures of the town, and disclosed intel that the kibbutz held 1,000 “civilians” guarded by a volunteer security force.


I expect it was allowed to happen to distract everyone from other issues (like the death of 8 year old Israeli toxxine poster boy Yonatan Erlichman from a heart attack) and to provide justification for stomping on Gaza.

Not that Hamas isn't guilty. The murder of random civilians for political reasons is the very definition of terrorism. Hamas must be wiped out.

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172   PeopleUnited   2023 Dec 1, 11:56am  

According to N.Y. Times the jabs are safe and effective. So they seem pretty reliable. yeah nice to know we can trust the media again!

Is there anything else we should know from The NY Times? Did they find Epstein’s client list yet?

Oh wait Epstein was an Israeli/Mosad operative right? So is that why N.Y. times doesn’t expose the client list? Epstein was working for the big bad Israelis who run the whole American government? And the Israelis are responsible for 9/11, 10/7, and the Pfizer jabs too right? So they can’t expose his client list because then everyone would know our government has been compromised by Israel!

So how do I know if I am not an Israeli operative too?

Seriously, This Israel hatred is nearly on par with TDS, in fact for some it is worse. It’s fine if you want to believe that Israeli leaders had prior knowledge of the attack (kinda like many who had prior knowledge of the 9/11 attacks and Pearl Harbor attack). But just remember, what the government does is often not representative of the wishes of the citizens.

If your neighbor was a known terrorist, who you witnessed massacring innocent people and the people in his household did nothing to stop or bring him to justice, is not the entire household liable for harboring terrorists?

Gaza is a household of terrorists. Nearly every competent adult in Gaza knows who the terrorists are, and at least some of their “secret” underground tunnels, supply lines or locations, bases and/or weapons. And they do nothing to stop them. That’s because Gaza is a household of terrorists. Even those who don’t commit violence knowingly rub shoulders on a regular basis with those who do. But they themselves are innocent! And they don’t deserve to die. So I guess it is better to live under the rule of terrorists than to die in a war to eliminate terrorists.
174   Patrick   2023 Dec 7, 4:19pm  

https://sashastone.substack.com/p/tucker-talks-to-alex-jones

Alex Jones agrees, Israel must have known about the attack and let it happen.
175   Bd6r   2023 Dec 7, 4:21pm  

It is inconceivable that Israeli gubbermint did not know. What is not clear to me is why the intelligence was ignored.
176   Patrick   2023 Dec 7, 4:34pm  

@Bd6r I think there were a lot of reasons:

1. The Israeli poster boy for the toxxine, Yonatan Erlichman, dropped dead of a heart attack at age 8. A distraction was needed.
2. Netanyahu was facing riots against his rule. That ended with the attack.
3. Israel needed an excuse to go in to the Gaza Strip because natural gas has been found just offshore.
177   Patrick   2023 Dec 7, 4:35pm  

BTW, Tucker points out that Alex Jones predicted the 9/11 attacks, literally saying in July of 2001 that Osama Bin Laden was going to fly planes into the WTC towers.

Pretty amazing prediction. Alex says he did it by reading various political reports.
178   AmericanKulak   2023 Dec 7, 5:29pm  

Patrick says


2. Netanyahu was facing riots against his rule. That ended with the attack.

What was happening is that the Israeli High Court, which has NO constitution, is selected by other members of the judiciary/legal profession.

Imagine if our SCOTUS not only had no constitution, but could only be selected by other Federal Judges, maybe the President of the BAR assocation, too.

Bibi was trying to move to a US Style system with nominees clearing the Legislature.

Left-wing Israelis did not want the near 3-decades-long center-right majority popularly elected government choosing High Court Justices, they wanted the Oligarchical Nepotistic system to continue to preserve the old 50s era more Socialist laws that the Justices prefer. Where only the aged, more Left-friendly Judges pick other judges into infinity forever.

Because Israel came from British, Ottoman, Napoleonic, and Talmudic mish-mash without a Constitution, nobody knows how the High Court will go or from where they'll "Find Law" that suits their biases in a particular situation. Israeli firms make contracts or incorporate in London and New York BECAUSE they have no certainty what bullshit the High Court will pull out of it's ass.

Very much like Democratic Attempts to Court Pack and so forth.
Patrick says


3. Israel needed an excuse to go in to the Gaza Strip because natural gas has been found just offshore.

There's plenty of the coast of Israel, much more than that.

Bd6r says


It is inconceivable that Israeli gubbermint did not know. What is not clear to me is why the intelligence was ignored.


What I heard is that Bibi was so focused on bouncing back from the protests and reforms, that he was ignoring the situation there. There were warnings, and part of the reason he agreed to a Coalition Emergency Government was that he knows his days are numbered because of the fuck up. Having the emergency government keeps him in power a little longer, hopefully for a miracle to happen that offsets the disaster.

Multiple IDF people, from draftee soldiers to high level ex-Intel have said to the Press, domestic and foreign, that the problems with broken monitoring systems and understaffing were known and pushed for months.

Also, another reason for the attack was a huge breakthrough in Saudi-Israeli relations that was scaring Hamas. The last thing Hamas wants is a pipeline from Saudi Arabia to either Israel or Gaza, since they like the status quo to fund their penthouses in Qatar and don't want it disturbed. A pipeline terminus in Gaza would be revolutionary for Arab-Israeli relations AND provide a shitton of prosperity AND provide alternatives to scamming the UN via UNWRA or Iranian support. All of which would weaken Hamas, and the leverage of their Iranian masters.
180   AmericanKulak   2023 Dec 16, 8:10pm  

No surprise that the Houthi Shi'a, an Iranian Proxy that is attacking Saudi Arabia, is attacking Israeli ships.

Also, the site thecandle.co is a GREAT example of Iranian-Qatari "Press".

Sharmine Narwani is a Hezbollah cheerleader, and thinks it's fine for Hezbollah to disobey the UN Resolution calling for them to disband their militia (which every other faction stupidly did) as wrong. She has all the positions and connections you'd expect from a Leftist and Iranian catspaw.

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/authors/sharmine-narwani/

Hezbollah was founded to attack the Christians and Druze, and to act as Assad's Agents in Lebanon since the House of Assad realized they'd never be allowed to directly annex Lebanon to Syria. Israel only became of Hezbollah interest AFTER they were able to crush the Christians and Druze and get the UN/EU idiots to force everybody BUT Hezbollah to eliminate their militias, but Hezbollah in charge of the army, and then Hezbollah kept their militia, the only political militia now in Lebanon.
182   fdhfoiehfeoi   2023 Dec 23, 8:28am  

Patrick says

Pretty amazing prediction. Alex says he did it by reading various political reports.


Not the only one or the first. They were telegraphing that shit, but most people, including myself, where asleep.
183   Patrick   2023 Dec 27, 7:31pm  

https://bioclandestine.substack.com/p/october-7th-is-looking-more-and-more


General Flynn states that “there was a decision made to have a security stand down, on the 7th of October, for 7 hours”.

This comes after Netanyahu reveals plans to relocate the Palestinian population in the US and Europe.

It appears that some elements within the IDF allowed the attack to happen, so they could justify ethnically cleansing Palestine, and relocating their population. Essentially a false flag operation to justify escalation and the land grab of Gaza and the West Bank.

If you’ve been following me, you’d know this has been my analysis since the jump! Hamas’ attack was brutal and horrific, but Israel WANTED it to happen, because it serves as a Casus Belli, to justify Israel’s blatant agenda to drive out the Muslim Palestinians from the region.

And based on the actions and behavior of the Israeli government, they were waiting for this opportunity. They let their own civilians die, so they could push their geopolitical agenda.
184   PeopleUnited   2023 Dec 27, 7:44pm  

Kinda like Biden wanted Russia to attack Ukraine? So who is the bad guy, the attacker?
185   RayAmerica   2023 Dec 27, 8:02pm  

No one seems to be able, or willing, to answer this question:

How were low flying paragliders traveling at only 40 mph, carrying two heavily armed terrorists, able to successfully cross the Gaza/Israeli border into Israel? The border is under constant, 24/7 surveillance by the IDF, and yet, Hamas was able to pull this off by flying in undetected? Had they been detected, they could have easily been shot down, yet they weren't. Why?

The whole thing stinks like a decaying kettle of fish.
187   Ceffer   2023 Dec 28, 11:37am  

Isn't Israel, it's the old world axis of infiltrating banksters operating through Israel, Switzerland, City of London, foreign occupied foreign city state of DC etc. etc. ad nauseum. You really think that without the Rothschild Messiahs and the KMaf Nazis Israel would be anything but a puff of wind?

Israel was always intended to be their spearhead into the resources of the Middle East. Religion was always a pretense and a shield. Rothschild Messiahs and KMaf Nazis were investors in Hitler, just like the Vatican, the Royals, the various 'P' Masons, the Western Merovingian Nazis etc. etc.

If Isreal no longer serves that purpose, the KMaf Nazis will arrange for the harvesting of the Israeli bank account holders, and then take another pod of survivors to establish the same thing somewhere else in another grazing field. Israel will be cashiered like an old shoe.

Guess they were supposed to move operations to Ukraine if things got tight after the mass murder of the Slavs, but WOO knows.
188   AmericanKulak   2023 Dec 28, 12:54pm  

The_Deplorable says





https://twitter.com/jakeshieldsajj/status/1740025932893634769

You mean the guy who was twice charged (in 2001 and 2011) and once convicted (2011) of pretending to be a teenage girl to get teenage boys to show their junk to him online?

"Hurr durr, just because he's a pedo and multiple intel agencies don't have blackmail on him, doesn't mean he isn't right, hurr durr Zio always do this."
189   The_Deplorable   2023 Dec 28, 4:12pm  

AmericanKulak says
"You mean the guy who was twice charged (in 2001 and 2011) and once convicted (2011) of pretending to be a teenage girl to get teenage boys to show their junk to him online?"

Do you have any proof for this?
Answer: No!
Then what are you talking about?
190   RWSGFY   2023 Dec 28, 4:13pm  

AmericanKulak says

The_Deplorable says






https://twitter.com/jakeshieldsajj/status/1740025932893634769

You mean the guy who was twice charged (in 2001 and 2011) and once convicted (2011) of pretending to be a teenage girl to get teenage boys to show their junk to him online?

"Hurr durr, just because he's a pedo and multiple intel agencies don't have blackmail on him, doesn't mean he isn't right, hurr durr Zio always do this."



191   RWSGFY   2023 Dec 28, 4:15pm  

The_Deplorable says

AmericanKulak says

"You mean the guy who was twice charged (in 2001 and 2011) and once convicted (2011) of pretending to be a teenage girl to get teenage boys to show their junk to him online?"

Do you have any proof for this?
Answer: No!
Then what are you talking about?


Very easy to find:



https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/apr/15/former-un-weapons-inspector-online-sex
192   AmericanKulak   2023 Dec 28, 4:31pm  

The_Deplorable says


Do you have any proof for this?
Answer: No!
Then what are you talking about?

If you look beyond Atheist-Iranian Stooge Dawson and insane Lucas Gage, it's very easy to find. Oops, @RWSGFY already found it.
193   FarmersWon   2023 Dec 28, 6:05pm  

I think Russia was moving in from Syria side and Israel had to plan this attack to encroach more land for security.
Iran/Russia may be planning something via Gaza.

There are some fundamentalist religious nuts in Jews.. who are problem and make it hard to have sensible policy for Israel.
Unfortunately Israel-Gaza war is just extension or Syrian, Ukraine and other conflicts.

West is under attack by Russia/India alliance on one side and China on others. Difficult times ahead specially with "stupid Americans" who comfort Russia.
194   Patrick   2023 Dec 29, 1:43pm  

https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/on-the-sexual-atrocities-hamas-committed


On Thursday, The New York Times recounted in awful detail the sexual atrocities the men of Gaza committed during Hamas’s October 7 raid into Israel.

I know Jeffrey Gettleman, who had the piece’s lead byline. He is a serious reporter who served with distinction for many years in Africa. He doesn’t exaggerate.

Which is good, because the Times’s descriptions of these crimes nearly beggar belief. They go beyond rape, or gang rape, or even the execution of prisoners. As described by witnesses who survived, and confirmed by video and forensic evidence, Hamas’s attackers turned murder and torture into can-you-top-this sport:

The first victim she said she saw was a young woman with copper-color hair, blood running down her back, pants pushed down to her knees. One man pulled her by the hair and made her bend over. Another penetrated her, Sapir said, and every time she flinched, he plunged a knife into her back. ...

So. Why? Why single out women for this special abuse?

And the answer appears to be that the men of Gaza bore a particular rage for these women who lived free and secular lives - in particular the teens and twenty- and thirty-something women they captured at the Nova rave.

The freedom of these women, in particular their sexual freedom, became worthy of the most hellish punishment (un)imaginable. They were unworthy even of being vessels for children. And so they weren’t bred. Instead their sexual organs were mutilated and their bodies desecrated even as they were raped - and sometimes further after they had been killed.

That radical Islamist culture is incompatible with Western society is not a surprise, not to anyone who was awake for the atrocities ISIS committed. Yet even by those standards Oct. 7 must serve as a warning.

And women’s groups globally, including Muslim groups, are fools to ignore it - as they largely have. By failing to speak out and press less radical Muslim leaders to condemn the violence, they are setting the stage for their own degradation tomorrow.
196   Patrick   2024 Apr 30, 1:02pm  

https://bioclandestine.substack.com/p/trump-alludes-that-netanyahu-allowed


Trump Alludes that Netanyahu ALLOWED October 7th Attacks!

In Trump’s interview Time Magazine, he heavily criticized Netanyahu and his handling of October 7th, claiming that Netanyahu had all the equipment and capability to stop the attack.

Trump said, “They (Israel) have the most sophisticated equipment. They had — everything was there to stop that. And a lot of people knew about it, you know, thousands and thousands of people knew about it, but Israel didn’t know about it, and I think he’s (Netanyahu) being blamed for that very strongly, being blamed.”
197   richwicks   2024 Apr 30, 4:56pm  

AmericanKulak says

Been saying this for years. Almost all of the photographers and most reporters that are contracted/freelance for Western Outlets in the Middle East are pro-Muslim Brotherhood/Islamicist Terror.

Nothing can be explained to you.

I think you are a real propagandist. Correcting you is like trying to correct Rachel Maddow.

You still believe the CNN is left. It's establishment. There is no left and right

Because everybody works in the obvious wrong paradigm, were in this continual nightmare.
198   Ceffer   2024 Apr 30, 5:06pm  

Trump confirms the false flag. Of course, it was known inside and out of Israel within a day, record time. Thank you, speed of information. Does this mean WWIII is a fail?
199   socal2   2024 Apr 30, 6:24pm  

Ceffer says

Trump confirms the false flag.


Trump didn't "confirm" shit. He is just talking out of his ass (as usual) and still pissed that Netanyahu called to congratulate Biden in 2020.

If this was a "fALse fLAg" what is Israel waiting for? Why didn't they take out Iran's nuke plants this month after Iran's unprecedented attack? Why are they still holding back on Rafah?
200   richwicks   2024 Apr 30, 6:32pm  

RWSGFY says


The_Deplorable says


AmericanKulak says

"You mean the guy who was twice charged (in 2001 and 2011) and once convicted (2011) of pretending to be a teenage girl to get teenage boys to show their junk to him online?"

Do you have any proof for this?
Answer: No!
Then what are you talking about?



Very easy to find:



https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/apr/15/former-un-weapons-inspector-online-sex



It's misleading, he knew he was talking to an adult, and they were doing roleplay with her pretending to be a school girl.

It's just revenge for him speaking about what he didn't find in Iraq, weapons of mass destruction.

Dennis Hastert was a pedophile and Speaker of the House. One of his victims committed suicide. He abused kids on the wrestling team he coached. He got charged eventually with some sort of bank fraud he was paying out to keep his victims silent.

Our government doesn't care about pedophiles. When the government finds a pedophile, a real one, they use it as blackmail, and continue to allow them to abuse children.
201   PeopleUnited   2024 Apr 30, 8:01pm  

199
^this

There is a huge difference between having intelligence that your enemy is preparing an attack, and what Hamas did on October 7, raping, killing and taking hostages. Oh, and don’t forget the rockets they continue to fire at civilians in Israel.

I’m not defending Bibi, but he did not plan, nor execute the attacks of October 7, 2023.
202   richwicks   2024 Apr 30, 10:10pm  

PeopleUnited says


I’m not defending Bibi, but he did not plan, nor execute the attacks of October 7, 2023.


Who said about HIM planning it?

Israel fucking funded and supported Hamas. Here:

https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/did-israel-really-create-hamas/

That's all hyperlinked, it's all referenced, you'll never read it. It's well known that Hamas was funded and supported by Israel. Netanyahu is a fucking puppet, just like Joe Biden, just like Barack Obama, just like George W. Bush. Democratic Republics are a veneer.

Oh, Israel has a 43 mile long wall on Gaza, monitored constantly, NOBODY saw anything, it took HOURS for the IDF to show up, they have the Hannibal Directive, concert goers said they were fragged by the fucking IDF - NOTHING to see here. It wasn't on the fucking propaganda box, so none of that happened! Right?

And "Bibi" - what you want to fuck him? What a sweet fucking teddy bear name. Bibi. Just call him sweetheart of teddy bear, or something. The guy is a fucking mobster, a monster, and he's playing the part.
203   Ceffer   2024 Apr 30, 10:51pm  

PeopleUnited says

I’m not defending Bibi, but he did not plan, nor execute the attacks of October 7, 2023.

That means it worked. It really, really worked.
204   Ceffer   2024 Apr 30, 10:52pm  

Meanwhile, in Israel itself:

https://t.me/sitreports/26835
205   Ceffer   2024 Apr 30, 11:28pm  

It does mean that Bibi Moloch's (or the avatar, whatever these days) days might be numbered. Otherwise, Trump would not have made such a statement.

207   Ceffer   2024 Apr 30, 11:57pm  

Trump cracks me up.

208   PeopleUnited   2024 May 1, 1:11am  

Ceffer says

PeopleUnited says


I’m not defending Bibi, but he did not plan, nor execute the attacks of October 7, 2023.

That means it worked. It really, really worked.

It = the attack by Hamas terrorists on Israeli civilians
Worked = destabilized the Middle East, starting a renewed regional war and enriched weapons manufacturers while causing divisions in Europe and America.

Just like the Satanic globalists wanted.
209   fdhfoiehfeoi   2024 May 1, 11:27am  

RWSGFY says

Very easy to find:


This may surprise you, but were you aware pedophiles are capable of telling the truth? Way to prove the source has an disreputable character, but that doesn't prove what he said is false. Now if you were asking him to give you an opinion on age of consent, I could see your point. But you aren't. You're just throwing out the baby with the bathwater. Very liberal of you comrade..
210   Ceffer   2024 May 1, 11:36am  

PeopleUnited says


It = the attack by Hamas terrorists on Israeli civilians

Facts not in evidence. If it's the Uniside, it was collaboration. Many of the casualties on Israelis were inflicted by Israeli aerial gunboats. Fog of War: as soon as the 'hostilities' start, both sides start lying like thieves to ramp up the allegations of atrocities against the other to keep the 'conflict' going. As usual, the truth is the first victim and that's the way they like it. He who lies loudest and longest prevails? Who commands the best bullhorns?

PeopleUnited says


Worked = destabilized the Middle East, starting a renewed regional war and enriched weapons manufacturers while causing divisions in Europe and America.

Just like the Satanic globalists wanted.

Well, that part is right. It's just a matter of how they can displace origins, sources, motives and blame.
211   Eric Holder   2024 May 1, 1:20pm  

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