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Bd6r says

Occupied by which definition?

Eric Holder says

Wasn't neither seized nor controlled by Israeli military after 2005 withdrawal.

NuttBoxer says

If you control the electricity, water, and entry and exit for a region, you control the region. Gaza has more in common with a prison than a country.

Your question was already answered, you just didn't like the answer...

NuttBoxer says

Gaza has more in common with a prison than a country.

Posted again for posterity.

https://twitter.com/ingelramdecoucy/status/1723906504019808488

Gaza was literally one of the nicest places to live in all of the Muslim/Arab world.........if you are not a Jew, Christian or Hindu.

I can imagine hundred of thousands of Arabs killed and maimed by Assad, Russia and Iran in Syria would like nothing more than to live the quality of life Gazans had before 10/7.

Usual usual. Disguising their troop losses, while claiming 'victories' that are by no means conclusive, especially in the early stages of the mess of urban warfare. The tunnel ambush whack a mole is far from over. The surface isn't the best place to be, tanks, vehicles and personnel sitting ducks in spite of claims of occupancy.

https://t.me/WW3INFO/28374

RWSGFY says

"I've answered the question many times: Gaza is not independent state..."

That is a good start. If Gaza is not an independent state, what is it then?

Answer: It is a territory that is controlled and occupied by Israel. End of discussion!

Sing Song lip service, incompetent Satanic inversions from the teleprompter for the bully pulpit, while you can see in his eyes and attitude that he thinks exactly the opposite. "Boy, Israel stepped in a big pile of doo doo this time."

https://t.me/WW3INFO/28405

https://twitter.com/georgegalloway/status/1724172912825930158 -- Less than 3 minutes.

I see the Jew haters are now trying to deny or downplay 10/7 like they do with the Holocaust.

Even citing George fucking Galloway!

Amazing to watch MAGA find solidarity with Marxists, Islamists and the LGBTQ+++++BLM woke mafia......

socal2 says

"Even citing George fucking Galloway!"

This is an ad hominem attack against George Galloway and you are saying in effect, that you cannot reply to George Galloway's argument. You are, in other words, validating the George Galloway argument.

Thank you for letting us know and have a nice day.

The_Deplorable says

So you are on the side of Israel since the vast majority of the Media (including Islamists, Marxists and Liberal Woke) are all against Israel?

KMaf Nazis were always part of the pogrom?

Looks like Hamas is getting schwacked.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/hamas-armed-wing-says-it-is-ready-to-free-70-israeli-hostages-in-return-for-a-5-day-cease-fire/ar-AA1jUiMS?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=35a2a3221b4c4db98af4c76d65206032&ei=164

The_Deplorable says

But I thought Bibi started this war with a false flag attack so that he could stay in power long enough to let the Jewish Messiah appear?

And since the media is the one telling the lie that Gaza is “occupied” by Israel, doesn’t that purport to mean both sides are in fact Israel? Hamas is a pawn of Israel that Israel provoked to attack Israel, so that Israel could gain support to attack Hamas? That’s what we are supposed to believe?

If anything, the Israeli government is one of, if not the most tolerant government in the world. If you want to claim that Gaza is “occupied territory” under control of Israeli government, then they are one of the few governments in the world that allow thousands of terrorists who have promised to work to destroy Israel, to live, work, build, and get supplies including weapons, to live within their own borders.

To the outside observer who has no stake in the game other than promoting peace, Israel has shown extreme restraint over the past few decades in the face of terrorists who cannot be reasoned with.

However, if Israel was the big bad Nazis that some claim them to be, they would tirelessly and ruthlessly eliminate every terrorist until there are no living people within their borders that oppose their statehood.

I know that’s what I’d advocate for if terrorists had bases in my country.

According to NY Times Israel government knew a year in advance of the attack. Makes sense, especially if they're the ones who planned it...

According to N.Y. Times the jabs are safe and effective. So they seem pretty reliable. yeah nice to know we can trust the media again!

Is there anything else we should know from The NY Times? Did they find Epstein’s client list yet?

Oh wait Epstein was an Israeli/Mosad operative right? So is that why N.Y. times doesn’t expose the client list? Epstein was working for the big bad Israelis who run the whole American government? And the Israelis are responsible for 9/11, 10/7, and the Pfizer jabs too right? So they can’t expose his client list because then everyone would know our government has been compromised by Israel!

So how do I know if I am not an Israeli operative too?

Seriously, This Israel hatred is nearly on par with TDS, in fact for some it is worse. It’s fine if you want to believe that Israeli leaders had prior knowledge of the attack (kinda like many who had prior knowledge of the 9/11 attacks and Pearl Harbor attack). But just remember, what the government does is often not representative of the wishes of the citizens.

If your neighbor was a known terrorist, who you witnessed massacring innocent people and the people in his household did nothing to stop or bring him to justice, is not the entire household liable for harboring terrorists?

Gaza is a household of terrorists. Nearly every competent adult in Gaza knows who the terrorists are, and at least some of their “secret” underground tunnels, supply lines or locations, bases and/or weapons. And they do nothing to stop them. That’s because Gaza is a household of terrorists. Even those who don’t commit violence knowingly rub shoulders on a regular basis with those who do. But they themselves are innocent! And they don’t deserve to die. So I guess it is better to live under the rule of terrorists than to die in a war to eliminate terrorists.

https://sashastone.substack.com/p/tucker-talks-to-alex-jones

Alex Jones agrees, Israel must have known about the attack and let it happen.

It is inconceivable that Israeli gubbermint did not know. What is not clear to me is why the intelligence was ignored.

@Bd6r I think there were a lot of reasons:

1. The Israeli poster boy for the toxxine, Yonatan Erlichman, dropped dead of a heart attack at age 8. A distraction was needed.
2. Netanyahu was facing riots against his rule. That ended with the attack.
3. Israel needed an excuse to go in to the Gaza Strip because natural gas has been found just offshore.

BTW, Tucker points out that Alex Jones predicted the 9/11 attacks, literally saying in July of 2001 that Osama Bin Laden was going to fly planes into the WTC towers.

Pretty amazing prediction. Alex says he did it by reading various political reports.

Patrick says

2. Netanyahu was facing riots against his rule. That ended with the attack.

What was happening is that the Israeli High Court, which has NO constitution, is selected by other members of the judiciary/legal profession.

Imagine if our SCOTUS not only had no constitution, but could only be selected by other Federal Judges, maybe the President of the BAR assocation, too.

Bibi was trying to move to a US Style system with nominees clearing the Legislature.

Left-wing Israelis did not want the near 3-decades-long center-right majority popularly elected government choosing High Court Justices, they wanted the Oligarchical Nepotistic system to continue to preserve the old 50s era more Socialist laws that the Justices prefer. Where only the aged, more Left-friendly Judges pick other judges into infinity forever.

Because Israel came from British, Ottoman, Napoleonic, and Talmudic mish-mash without a Constitution, nobody knows how the High Court will go or from where they'll "Find Law" that suits their biases in a particular situation. Israeli firms make contracts or incorporate in London and New York BECAUSE they have no certainty what bullshit the High Court will pull out of it's ass.

Very much like Democratic Attempts to Court Pack and so forth.
Patrick says

3. Israel needed an excuse to go in to the Gaza Strip because natural gas has been found just offshore.

There's plenty of the coast of Israel, much more than that.

Bd6r says

It is inconceivable that Israeli gubbermint did not know. What is not clear to me is why the intelligence was ignored.

What I heard is that Bibi was so focused on bouncing back from the protests and reforms, that he was ignoring the situation there. There were warnings, and part of the reason he agreed to a Coalition Emergency Government was that he knows his days are numbered because of the fuck up. Having the emergency government keeps him in power a little longer, hopefully for a miracle to happen that offsets the disaster.

Multiple IDF people, from draftee soldiers to high level ex-Intel have said to the Press, domestic and foreign, that the problems with broken monitoring systems and understaffing were known and pushed for months.

Also, another reason for the attack was a huge breakthrough in Saudi-Israeli relations that was scaring Hamas. The last thing Hamas wants is a pipeline from Saudi Arabia to either Israel or Gaza, since they like the status quo to fund their penthouses in Qatar and don't want it disturbed. A pipeline terminus in Gaza would be revolutionary for Arab-Israeli relations AND provide a shitton of prosperity AND provide alternatives to scamming the UN via UNWRA or Iranian support. All of which would weaken Hamas, and the leverage of their Iranian masters.

No surprise that the Houthi Shi'a, an Iranian Proxy that is attacking Saudi Arabia, is attacking Israeli ships.

Also, the site thecandle.co is a GREAT example of Iranian-Qatari "Press".

Sharmine Narwani is a Hezbollah cheerleader, and thinks it's fine for Hezbollah to disobey the UN Resolution calling for them to disband their militia (which every other faction stupidly did) as wrong. She has all the positions and connections you'd expect from a Leftist and Iranian catspaw.

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/authors/sharmine-narwani/

Hezbollah was founded to attack the Christians and Druze, and to act as Assad's Agents in Lebanon since the House of Assad realized they'd never be allowed to directly annex Lebanon to Syria. Israel only became of Hezbollah interest AFTER they were able to crush the Christians and Druze and get the UN/EU idiots to force everybody BUT Hezbollah to eliminate their militias, but Hezbollah in charge of the army, and then Hezbollah kept their militia, the only political militia now in Lebanon.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-67748605

Patrick says

Pretty amazing prediction. Alex says he did it by reading various political reports.

Not the only one or the first. They were telegraphing that shit, but most people, including myself, where asleep.

https://bioclandestine.substack.com/p/october-7th-is-looking-more-and-more

General Flynn states that “there was a decision made to have a security stand down, on the 7th of October, for 7 hours”.

This comes after Netanyahu reveals plans to relocate the Palestinian population in the US and Europe.

It appears that some elements within the IDF allowed the attack to happen, so they could justify ethnically cleansing Palestine, and relocating their population. Essentially a false flag operation to justify escalation and the land grab of Gaza and the West Bank.

If you’ve been following me, you’d know this has been my analysis since the jump! Hamas’ attack was brutal and horrific, but Israel WANTED it to happen, because it serves as a Casus Belli, to justify Israel’s blatant agenda to drive out the Muslim Palestinians from the region.

And based on the actions and behavior of the Israeli government, they were waiting for this opportunity. They let their own civilians die, so they could push their geopolitical agenda.

Kinda like Biden wanted Russia to attack Ukraine? So who is the bad guy, the attacker?

No one seems to be able, or willing, to answer this question:

How were low flying paragliders traveling at only 40 mph, carrying two heavily armed terrorists, able to successfully cross the Gaza/Israeli border into Israel? The border is under constant, 24/7 surveillance by the IDF, and yet, Hamas was able to pull this off by flying in undetected? Had they been detected, they could have easily been shot down, yet they weren't. Why?

The whole thing stinks like a decaying kettle of fish.

https://twitter.com/jakeshieldsajj/status/1740025932893634769

Isn't Israel, it's the old world axis of infiltrating banksters operating through Israel, Switzerland, City of London, foreign occupied foreign city state of DC etc. etc. ad nauseum. You really think that without the Rothschild Messiahs and the KMaf Nazis Israel would be anything but a puff of wind?

Israel was always intended to be their spearhead into the resources of the Middle East. Religion was always a pretense and a shield. Rothschild Messiahs and KMaf Nazis were investors in Hitler, just like the Vatican, the Royals, the various 'P' Masons, the Western Merovingian Nazis etc. etc.

If Isreal no longer serves that purpose, the KMaf Nazis will arrange for the harvesting of the Israeli bank account holders, and then take another pod of survivors to establish the same thing somewhere else in another grazing field. Israel will be cashiered like an old shoe.

Guess they were supposed to move operations to Ukraine if things got tight after the mass murder of the Slavs, but WOO knows.

The_Deplorable says

https://twitter.com/jakeshieldsajj/status/1740025932893634769

You mean the guy who was twice charged (in 2001 and 2011) and once convicted (2011) of pretending to be a teenage girl to get teenage boys to show their junk to him online?

"Hurr durr, just because he's a pedo and multiple intel agencies don't have blackmail on him, doesn't mean he isn't right, hurr durr Zio always do this."

AmericanKulak says

"You mean the guy who was twice charged (in 2001 and 2011) and once convicted (2011) of pretending to be a teenage girl to get teenage boys to show their junk to him online?"

Do you have any proof for this?
Answer: No!
Then what are you talking about?