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RWSGFY says

BTW, the idea that Isrealis wanted the excuse to go inside Gaza is also loony

Loony, fanatical, sociopathic(Bibby isn't going himself). They all fit...

Patrick says

Israeli "leaders" must have known about the impending attack and let it happen

Who's saying this? Mostly Jews living in Israel. Who doesn't want to invade Palestine? Mostly Jews living in Israel.

See, you aren't with the Jewish people if you support what's happened in the past weeks, you're with the Jewish government. The same government that force injected their population with a bio-chemical weapon. The same government that has endured protests for most of the past year. But this time it's different! This time they actually care about Jewish people!!

Same way our government cares for people in East Palestine, or Maui, or when they died suddenly. Is it sinking in yet..?

https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/israeli-dna-and-human-lab-rats

Bibi then goes on to theorize about the possibilities of using his own people as lab rats for other clinical trials in the future, because the possibilities of combining a a population’s medical records and DNA database are endless. Think of the money to be made, the biotech companies flocking to the new biotech nirvana: Israel. The Future's So Bright - Bibi Gotta Wear Shades.

All it requires is the arbitrary removal of rights of the Israeli people. Which Benjamin Netanyahu did by selling out the Israeli people to be the lab rats of Pfizer, so that Israeli citizens could be “first” to get the jab…

https://nationalfile.com/charlie-kirk-suggests-netanyahu-issued-stand-down-order-to-idf/

During his interview, Kirk said he is unconvinced that Hamas militants managed to pull off a sneak attack of such huge proportions, considering that Israel “is a fortress” and suggested that the attack’s success could be the result of a stand down order given to the Israeli Defense Forces.
“I’ve been to Israel many times, the whole country is a fortress,” said Charlie Kirk. “…I still have the same gut instinct that I did initially. I find this very hard to believe,” he went on. “I’ve been to that Gaza border, you cannot go 10 feet without running into a 19-year-old with an AR-15, or an automatic machine gun, that is an IDF soldier. The whole country is surveilled.”

“Let me just kind of go through this,” said Kirk, before giving a run-down on the Israeli political crisis that preceded the attacks.

“The last 9 months, Israel was on the brink of civil war. That’s not an exaggeration,” Kirk said. “This judicial stuff, there were hundreds of thousands of Israelis taking to the streets because Bibi Netanyahu was basically redefining the Israeli constitution.”

“There were protests planned this week against Netanyahu, where they anticipated tens of thousands of people to take to the streets. That’s all gone now. Netanyahu now has an emergency government and a mandate to lead.”

“I’m not willing to say, to go so far as to say, that Netanyahu knew or there was intelligence here, but I think some questions need to be asked. Was there a stand down order? Was there a stand down order?” asked Kirk.

“6 hours? I don’t believe it,” he said.

“Israel is the size of New Jersey. When I took a helicopter ride from Jerusalem to the Gaza border, it was 45 minutes.”

“[It took the IDF] 6 hours! [Hamas was] live streaming the killing of Jews. Did someone in the government say stand down? That is a legitimate non-conspiracy question. The whole country is the IDF, the whole country is! And you’re trying to tell me that they’re going to concerts, and kibbutzes, and schools?”

However, this isn't the first time Israeli Intel fucked up on Yom Kippur. Nor is it the first time it fucked up. The Hezbollah Raids of 2006 were a fuck up, as were the 1968 counter-terror raids into Jordan.

There's also been reports for 2 years by reservists and ex-draftees that surveillance equipment was defunct and not repaired/replaced at all at certain locations. Most of the Gaza wall is a simple tall fence with barbed wire. By distracting the concrete gateway outposts, then using paragliders and bulldozers to get through and over the regular fence, and not having a reserve force made available or in numbers to plug in gaps, Israel was caught pants down.

While a lot of bullshit is blamed on incomptence, nobody is 100% efficiency, 100% of the time.

This was probably planned as early as july when zelensky was ignored at the nato summit in Vilnius...they were done with him and it was time to move on.

Bibi is pulling in an emergency government not just because of the need, but because he's going to be in big trouble a few months from now when the Knesset holds hearings.

AmericanKulak says

While a lot of bullshit is blamed on incomptence, nobody is 100% efficiency, 100% of the time.

I agree, but this seems well beyond normal fuck-up levels. And I see political motives.

But I admit I don't really know.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/defenders-of-kibbutz-nir-am-say-they-killed-2-terrorists-saturday-preventing-takeover/

See above link. Wall St Journal reports how the kibbutz Nir Am fought back successfully

What I think is that they did not send their most savage and hardened Hamas terrorists to attack the kibuttz's because they thought the kibbutz's were going to be easy targets.

They sent in likely their grad students from Gaza University with about 1 month of military training and a promise that they 'll go to heaven and fuck 100 virgins if they die for the cause.

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Patrick says

“I’ve been to that Gaza border, you cannot go 10 feet without running into a 19-year-old with an AR-15,

The IDF does not issue soldiers an AR-15, they issue actual military grade weapons.

HeadSet says

The IDF does not issue soldiers an AR-15, they issue actual military grade weapons.

In his defense, I think he just means a gun. I have a hard time believing that a 32 mile wall isn't continually monitored and that this happened without the Israeli government letting it happen.

But there's no way of knowing. What I do know, is whenever a government does something fucking evil, they always claim incompetence. If NOBODY is fired over this (and I doubt anybody will be), it wasn't incompetence.

People in the intelligence agencies that CORRECTLY pointed out that Hussein had no link to Al Qaeda, and wasn't involved with 9/11 - they were fired. The assholes that did claim they were linked, they got promotions. This is what is screwing our nation, instead of competent people, they are looking for competent ass kissers.

https://merylnass.substack.com/p/the-forbidden-truth-israel-and-the

No one in the halls of government in the United States dares to admit that this attack on Israel may have been, probably was, planned by a desperate lot of rich Israelis as a way of making sure their corrupt administration stayed in power—but everyone in Washington knows that forbidden truth. They are just afraid to say it.

No one dares admit that this campaign to flatten Gaza is perfectly designed to spark a war with Iran, which will lead inevitably to a war with Russia, and then to a world war.

But everyone in Washington knows exactly what is happening, and they know why.

richwicks says

In his defense, I think he just means a gun.

Certainly, but that careless phrasing just plays into the anti-Second Amendment types that claim an AR-15 is "assault rifle weapon of the battlefield."

ad says

They sent in likely their grad students from Gaza University with about 1 month of military training and a promise that they 'll go to heaven and fuck 100 virgins if they die for the cause.

I think this is a little above and beyond that, although above and beyond is hard to evaluate with the propaganda war even hotter than the ground war. I wouldn't underestimate. That may have been a mistake to begin with.

HeadSet says

Certainly, but that careless phrasing just plays into the anti-Second Amendment types that claim an AR-15 is "assault rifle weapon of the battlefield."

I don't think the 2nd amendment is going anywhere at this point. People give the government a chance, then they abused their power.

They just poisoned 1/2 the country over a fake pandemic and an injection. I think their time is up. They've completely fucked up on that one. I'm actually surprised there hasn't been a revolution, and actually, there might be one going on right now - our media completely lies to us, and our major internet companies censor information.

richwicks says

I think their time is up.

No revolution around here. I do not see any recall petitions anywhere, and early voting and mail in ballots are still in play for Nov 7.

Wouldn't be the first time Zionists killed their own for Isreal. US has done the same along with other countries, those in power don't care about civilians.

Patrick says

“[It took the IDF] 6 hours! [Hamas was] live streaming the killing of Jews. Did someone in the government say stand down? That is a legitimate non-conspiracy question.

Actually, this is the very definition of a conspiracy. I think he meant to contrast the FBI created "theory" phrase.

HeadSet says

Certainly, but that careless phrasing just plays into the anti-Second Amendment types that claim an AR-15 is "assault rifle weapon of the battlefield."

It absolutely is battlefield weapon. The Second Amendment isn't about hunting or home defense. It's primary purpose is country defense, which requires military grade rifles. They didn't fight the Revolution with pea-shooters. I believe Jefferson specifically invokes the idea of Revolution as a necessity to preserve freedom, that freedom is maintained only by the blood of patriots.

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NuttBoxer says

HeadSet says

Certainly, but that careless phrasing just plays into the anti-Second Amendment types that claim an AR-15 is "assault rifle weapon of the battlefield."

It absolutely is battlefield weapon. The Second Amendment isn't about hunting or home defense. It's primary purpose is country defense, which requires military grade rifles. They didn't fight the Revolution with pea-shooters. I believe Jefferson specifically invokes the idea of Revolution as a necessity to preserve freedom, that freedom is maintained only by the blood of patriots.

Damn straight - colonial forces had rifles, while the english had smoothbore muskets. That's why guerilla sniping worked against english troops, who otherwise had to fire fusillades of massed musket balls, which provided stopping power, but not precision.

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/rescinded-wednesday-october-18-2023

Israel made the mistake of using logic instead of emotion. It claimed that, number one, it did not conduct any air strikes in that area of Gaza yesterday. Two, it reported Hamas launched 1,500 rockets toward Israel right down the block from the hospital, a few seconds before the explosion. Third, the IDF said 40% of Hamas rockets normally malfunction and often hit friendlies by accident. Fourth, at least three local videos, two released by Hamas, appear to show the Hamas rocket launch with one fireball returning to earth along with an explosion. Fifth, Israel claimed the Hamas rocket actually fell into the hospital parking lot, and video evidence appeared to support that claim.

Then later, while hardliners nitpicked the first five pieces of evidence, Israel released an audio intercept between two Hamas operatives who appeared to confirm the explosion was caused by a Hamas rocket. One can be heard explaining, “It seems that they fired this from the cemetery behind the hospital, then the way that it failed and it landed on the hospital.”

It is weird how the IDF intercepted this particular discussion but somehow missed all the discussions that might’ve warned them of the original Hamas attack, but I digress.

Patrick says

It is weird how the IDF intercepted this particular discussion but somehow missed all the discussions that might’ve warned them of the original Hamas attack, but I digress.

It may be false. Palestinian rockets don't have warheads, but they can certainly blow up

Always be suspicious of conveniently intercepted communications.

OK, mildly anti-Semitic, but funny.

Patrick says

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/rescinded-wednesday-october-18-2023

Israel made the mistake of using logic instead of emotion.

Hey Patrick, you're boy has no links to sources for any of this, and I assume he doesn't live in Gaza.

I would expect something more like this:
https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/israeli-false-flag-possibility/
https://twitter.com/thecradlemedia/status/1714337573936439560
https://twitter.com/falasteen47/status/1714337138668605907
https://twitter.com/shaykhsulaiman/status/1714328191446253627
https://twitter.com/partisangirl/status/1714368871111782487
https://twitter.com/MyLordBebo/status/1714351075195515048

The leader of one faction of the Israeli ruling Likud party threatens Russia on the propaganda channel RT:

"After we win this war... we will make sure that Ukraine wins... Russia will pay for what it did..."

https://twitter.com/PStyle0ne1/status/1715058886007312552

Eric Holder says

"After we win this war... we will make sure that Ukraine wins.

And how will they do that? By using the US politicians they own through bribes and Epstein tapes to send in US troops?

HeadSet says

Eric Holder says

"After we win this war... we will make sure that Ukraine wins.

And how will they do that? By using the US politicians they own through bribes and Epstein tapes to send in US troops?

Exactly.

The only way for Ukraine to win, again IF I can trust what I'm hearing, is to put NATO in, because there's something like 400,000 Ukrainians dead. Their military is destroyed. Russia hasn't been going after civilians, they - apparently - have very low "collateral damage" in comparison to the United States which is staggering. It's estimated the US killed 800,000 Iraqis, but how they were killed is not stated. Starvation? Disease? I don't know. I do know the US purposely attacks infrastructure like sewage and water lines.

Patrick says

It is weird how the IDF intercepted this particular discussion but somehow missed all the discussions that might’ve warned them of the original Hamas attack, but I digress.

Planning vs. Ops. Since no plan survives the battlefield, Ops comms are necessary, but planning can be kept secret.

There have been large scale offensives bigger than this where Sigint was successfully hidden (Battle of the Bulge for one, both Six Day and Yom Kippur Wars on opposite sides for examples).

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/intelligence-failures-monday-october

During the spring, Netanyahu led a conservative takeover of Israel’s government following a disastrous leftist cycle. One of the new conservative government’s first projects was to prune back a law allowing Israel’s Supreme Court to overturn any democratically-passed legislation that the Court felt was inconsistent with Israel’s values — a blank check. The reform — which was ultimately successful — was opposed by none less than the U.S. deep state and one Joseph Robinette Biden.

And, although officially denied, leaked documents showed the conservative reforms were also opposed by members of Israel’s own top security agency, Mossad:




To pull the threads together, what I think Patrick is suggesting (without explicitly saying so) is that the U.S. deep state, working with the Israeli deep state, engineered October 7th. They did it to punish Netanyahu for the Supreme Court reforms, and to purge Israel’s new conservative government. The deepstate termites may have accomplished it by sabotaging Israel’s security software, on which the country is almost completely dependent.

Admittedly, it’s a bold, 9/11-level conspiracy theory, but so far it’s the only fact-based theory going.

Ibid:

💣 Soon it will be politically too late for Israel to invade Gaza on the ground, and an invasion is looking less and less likely, for three reasons. First, the U.S. is stepping up pressure on Israel to postpone the Gazan ground invasion, for the obvious rationale that I predicted. The New York Times made the case this morning at the top of the fold:




It’s the hostages. On the Israeli side, the Times of Israel broke the bad news to the Israeli public:




The longer the delay, the less likely politically possible it will be for Israel to invade Gaza at all. And if, at the end of the day, Israel does not invade Gaza after the October 7th attacks, Israel’s conservative government will undoubtedly fall, delighting U.S. and Israeli deep state color revolutionaries who failed to abolish Netanyahu with nationwide protests in the summer.

Remember the Chuck Schumer rule: they have seven ways from Sunday to get back at you.

Second, Israel’s internal leftist forces are starting to stretch and get ready to take advantage of the situation in the domestic politics arena. In other words, the period of unity is coming to a close. Israel’s papers this weekend were packed with swelling criticism of Netanyahu, neatly summarized in this Haaretz example:




Prime Minister Netanyahu faces irresistible public pressure to start the invasion, but on the other hand, the United States — his most critical ally, needed to hold off opportunistic enemies while Israel fights with Hamas — is flat telling him not to do it. I would bet my next paycheck that when Biden flew around the globe for a one-hour face-to-face meeting last week it was to warn Bibi not to invade.

Third, Israel’s other enemies are lining up to invade Israel when Israel invades Gaza. All last week, pressure continued mounting along Israel’s northern border, as other regional enemies waited with barely-concealed glee for Israel to commit its forces to Gaza in the south. For example, Lebanon-based terrorist group Hezbollah spent last week steadily increasing rocket attacks from the north, while Iran and Israel traded threats. ..

Officially, Israel will not explain the delay, not even to its own officers. Four senior Israeli defense officials told the Times they did not even know the reason for the repeated postponements. My guess is that’s because the delay is due to politics and not military strategy.

OK, maybe it was Mossad that allowed or even orchestrated the massacre of 1400 Israelis just to get at Netanyahu.

Looks like one less Democrat in Maryland:
https://www.reddit.com/r/maryland/comments/17du91j/he_rushed_from_maryland_to_israel_to_fight_on/
He rushed from Maryland to Israel to fight. On Friday, he was killed.

https://celiafarber.substack.com/p/the-case-for-inside-job-picks-up

The Case For "Inside Job" Picks Up: Did Israel Confiscate Guns At The Border Sept 1?

A Former Soldier's Righteous Rage

Clip here:

https://twitter.com/VincentCrypt46/status/1716088629024461046

Maybe the Brit Royals, the Rothschild Messiahs and the KMaf Nazis just decided that an Israel that peacefully coexists as a technologic nation is useless as a pirate flag to plunder, rob and destroy the Middle East, so, time to rendition them as Moloch niblets and create as much carnage and dead burning flesh for the nostrils of their demons as they can on as many unisides as they can.

Harvest time again for the press ganged survivors?

Patrick says

The Case For "Inside Job" Picks Up: Did Israel Confiscate Guns At The Border Sept 1?

If they supposedly "confiscated weapons" how did that one kibbutz who had their act together and repealed the attack still had them? Fact is - most weapons there are not stored in homes, so there no need to confiscate anything: when terrorists are roaming outside your house it's too late to go pick it up from the offsite storage room. That one kibbutz got lucky the gal who had the key didn't get cut off from the rest and had time to open the storage and hand out weapons. The whole arrangement is highly idiotic, imo.

Besides, did they also confiscate weapons from the army? Because at least one base was overrun too.

https://t.me/drue86/47020

Patrick says

OK, maybe it was Mossad that allowed or even orchestrated the massacre of 1400 Israelis just to get at Netanyahu.

No, if this happened, Netanyahu would call them out on it and have some high profile firings. It's simple to end this for Netanyahu, blame Mossad for the failure, or the IDF, or something. Netanyahu was part of this.

When something really bad happens, and NOBODY is fired, it's red flag for a false flag.

Patrick says

OK, maybe it was Mossad that allowed or even orchestrated the massacre of 1400 Israelis just to get at Netanyahu.

But who do they want to replace Netanyahu ? Naftali Bennett ?

They better be careful what they are wishing for because they can't use the same dirty tricks playbook all the time.

https://unbekoming.substack.com/p/understanding-false-flags

1. Reichstag Fire (1933)
Country Involved: Germany

Description: The Reichstag building in Berlin, which housed the German Parliament, was set on fire. The Nazis blamed the Communists for the act, which led to the suspension of civil liberties and the arrest of Communist Party members.

Outcome: The event facilitated Adolf Hitler's rise to power and the consolidation of Nazi rule.

Source: "The Reichstag Fire," History.com

2. Operation Northwoods (1962) - Not Executed
Country Involved: United States

Description: A proposed plan by the U.S. Department of Defense to stage acts of terrorism on U.S. soil and blame it on Cuba to justify military intervention.

Outcome: The plan was never approved or carried out.

Source: "Operation Northwoods," National Security Archive

3. Gulf of Tonkin Incident (1964)
Country Involved: United States

Description: The U.S. claimed that its naval vessels were attacked by North Vietnamese forces in the Gulf of Tonkin.

Outcome: The incident led to the escalation of American involvement in the Vietnam War, although later evidence suggested that the "attack" was either exaggerated or fabricated.

Source: "Gulf of Tonkin Incident," History.com

4. Operation Gladio (Cold War Era)
Countries Involved: NATO countries, primarily Italy

Description: A covert NATO project where secret "stay-behind" armies were involved in political subversion and false flag terrorism in Europe.

Outcome: Exposed in the 1990s, leading to investigations and public outcry.

Source: "Operation Gladio," BBC Documentary

5. Mukden Incident (1931)
Country Involved: Japan

Description: Japanese soldiers detonated a small amount of dynamite near a railway line owned by Japan's South Manchuria Railway near Mukden (now Shenyang).

Outcome: The incident was used as a pretext for the Japanese invasion of Manchuria.

Source: "Mukden Incident," Britannica

6. Operation Ajax (1953)
Countries Involved: United States, United Kingdom

Description: Orchestrated protests and acts of sabotage to overthrow Iranian Prime Minister Mohammad Mossadegh, falsely attributing these acts to Communists.

Outcome: Led to the overthrow of Mossadegh and the reinstatement of the Shah.

Source: "Operation Ajax," CIA Archives

7. Operation Susannah (1954)
Country Involved: Israel

Description: Also known as the Lavon Affair, Israeli agents planted bombs in Egyptian, American, and British-owned targets in Egypt, intending to have them blamed on the Muslim Brotherhood or local nationalists.

Outcome: The operation was exposed, leading to a political scandal in Israel.

Source: "Operation Susannah," Jewish Virtual Library

8. Operation Himmler (1939)
Country Involved: Nazi Germany

Description: Also known as The Gleiwitz Incident, is when German operatives, dressed as Polish soldiers, attacked a German radio station near the border with Poland, and falsely blamed on Polish forces.

Outcome: Used as justification for the invasion of Poland.

Source: "Operation Himmler," WW2 Database

9. The Manchurian Incident (1931)
Country Involved: Japan

Description: Japanese soldiers staged an explosion on a railway in Manchuria and blamed it on Chinese dissidents.

Outcome: Used as a pretext for the Japanese invasion of Manchuria.

Source: "The Manchurian Incident," Britannica

10. Operation CHAOS (1967-1974)
Country Involved: United States

Description: CIA program aimed at monitoring, infiltrating, and discrediting U.S. organizations considered "subversive," including civil rights groups.

Outcome: Led to illegal surveillance and violation of civil liberties.

Source: "Operation CHAOS," CIA Archives

11. Operation Bumblebee (1950s)
Country Involved: United States

Description: U.S. Navy project that involved faking UFO sightings to cover up missile tests.

Outcome: Created public hysteria over UFOs, diverting attention from military activities.

Source: "Operation Bumblebee," Military Archives

12. Operation Valuable Fiend (1949-1950)
Countries Involved: United States, United Kingdom

Description: CIA and MI6 orchestrated a plan to infiltrate Albania and overthrow its Communist regime, using agents posing as anti-Communist Albanians.

Outcome: The operation failed but was used to justify anti-Communist activities in the region.

Source: "Operation Valuable Fiend," CIA Archives

13. The Bay of Pigs Invasion (1961)
Country Involved: United States

Description: CIA-trained Cuban exiles invaded Cuba, aiming to overthrow Fidel Castro. The U.S. initially denied involvement.

Outcome: The invasion failed, leading to a diplomatic crisis.

Source: "Bay of Pigs Invasion," History.com

14. The Mainila Incident (1939)
Country Involved: Soviet Union

Description: The Soviet Union shelled the Russian village of Mainila and blamed it on Finland.

Outcome: Used as a pretext for the Winter War against Finland.

Source: "The Mainila Incident," Winter War Archives

15. Operation Condor (1970s-1980s)
Countries Involved: Several South American countries with U.S. support

Description: A campaign of political repression involving assassinations and intelligence operations, often falsely attributed to leftist groups.

Outcome: Led to the deaths and disappearances of thousands of people.

Source: "Operation Condor," National Security Archive

16. The Nero Decree (1945)
Country Involved: Nazi Germany

Description: A plan to destroy German infrastructure to blame the Allies and demoralize the German population.

Outcome: The plan was never fully executed due to internal opposition.

Source: "The Nero Decree," WW2 Facts

17. Operation Gladio B (1990s-Present)
Countries Involved: United States, NATO countries

Description: An extension of Operation Gladio involving the infiltration and instigation of terrorist activities in Asia, falsely attributed to Islamist groups.

Outcome: Ongoing; details are largely classified.

Source: "Operation Gladio B," The Corbett Report

18. The USS Liberty Incident (1967)
Countries Involved: Israel, United States

Description: Israeli forces attacked the USS Liberty, a U.S. Navy ship, during the Six-Day War. Israel claimed it was a case of mistaken identity.

Outcome: Strained U.S.-Israel relations; Israel paid reparations but many questions remain.

Source: "The USS Liberty Incident," Naval History and Heritage Command

19. The Informbiro Period (1948–1955)
Country Involved: Yugoslavia

Description: Yugoslav authorities orchestrated purges and show trials, blaming them on Soviet influence to consolidate power.

Outcome: Strengthened Tito's rule and distanced Yugoslavia from the Soviet Union.

Source: "The Informbiro Period," Encyclopaedia Britannica

20. Operation Washtub (1950s)
Country Involved: United States

Description: A covert CIA operation to plant Soviet arms in Nicaragua to suggest a communist invasion.

Outcome: Unclear, as details remain classified.

Source: "Operation Washtub," CIA Archives

21. The Trust Operation (1921–1927)
Country Involved: Soviet Union

Description: Soviet secret police created a fake anti-Bolshevik organization to identify and arrest opposition members.

Outcome: Successful in arresting and executing many anti-Bolshevik figures.

Source: "The Trust Operation," Soviet Archives

22. Operation Anthropoid (1942)
Countries Involved: Czechoslovakia, United Kingdom

Description: Czech and Slovak soldiers, trained by the British, assassinated SS-Obergruppenführer Reinhard Heydrich. The operation was falsely attributed to local resistance.

Outcome: Led to severe reprisals but boosted Czech morale.

Source: "Operation Anthropoid," BBC History

I think this one is not exactly a false flag, in that Hamas really slaughtered 1400 Israelis. But it was allowed to happen, as I suspect 9/11 was.

The author of that article would call it "Passive Facilitation".

Just because you cite 22 examples does not mean you have real proof.