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GasTheYoungTurks says

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Barack Hussein Obama was the first to send troops there. Interestingly it was a few months after Russia took Crimea.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_intervention_in_the_Syrian_civil_war

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Yes. Note that doesn't answer my question, which is in the present tense.

Supporting the Kurds, which serves as a leverage over Erdogan, would be my guess.

Part of it is Israel wants to expand more into the Golan which is Syrian land. Part of it is that Genie Energy is stealing oil in the Golan.

We don't care about the Kids either, they are the PKK.

This is more of a war for Israel's benefit I think. For some reason Israel hates Syria.

US has wanted an excuse to take out Iran for a LONG time. And as mentioned, stealing oil.

Stealing oil. Stealing oil. Stealing oil. Stealing oil. Oil stealing. Stealing oil.

Ceffer says

Stealing oil. Stealing oil. Stealing oil. Stealing oil. Oil stealing. Stealing oil.

How come we didn't steal Iraq's oil after 15+ years.

9/11 Troofers constantly say 9/11 was an inside job so America could steal Middle East oil. Where the fuck is it? Our country's strategic oil reserve is lower than ever. Where are all the pipelines and thousands of US oil tankers taking oil back to the US? How much oil would we have to steal just to cover the mobilization costs of bringing thousands of Americans and military gear to Iraq in the first year?

Also, thought all the Globalhomo NWO is all about EV's and getting America off oil? Why would they all be in on this?

Morons want us to believe it was easier to create a MASSIVE conspiracy to kill thousands of Americans at home and thousands more people abroad to get Iraqi oil - as opposed to beating Environmentalists so we can drill for more oil at home? America has more energy reserves then we know what do with.

Morons - pot, kettle . . . .

Fucking around to find out?

Ceffer says

Stealing oil. Stealing oil. Stealing oil. Stealing oil. Oil stealing. Stealing oil.

Too little oil in that particular country, must be something else

Bd6r says

Too little oil in that particular country, must be something else

The sheer honor of piracy uber alles?

Ceffer says

Bd6r says

Too little oil in that particular country, must be something else

The sheer honor of piracy uber alles?

Or just the habit which is difficult to kick

oil, some anti russia geopolitical chess move above my level of comprehension… i just know russia backs syria.

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says

some anti russia geopolitical chess move

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says

i just know russia backs syria.

Exactly. And Oceana has always been at war with EastAsia! Right Winston?

Keeping the MIC oiled.

GasTheYoungTurks says

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Barack Hussein Obama was the first to send troops there. Interestingly it was a few months after Russia took Crimea.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_intervention_in_the_Syrian_civil_war

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Yes. Note that doesn't answer my question, which is in the present tense.

So you do not think we are still in Syria for the same reasons why Barack Hussein Obama sent US troops there ? Its a protracted geopolitcal conflict.

And the same career civil servants who formulated it sitting in the halls of CIA and NSC are still there, just in higher positions like GS 15 and SES.
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So you do not think we are still in Syria for the same reasons why Barack Hussein Obama sent US troops there ? Its a protracted geopolitcal conflict.

And the same career civil servants who formulated it sitting in the halls of CIA and NSC are still there, just in higher positions like GS 15 and SES.

And that is as good as an answer as any.

Just a damning one. :)

PumpingRedheads says

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So you do not think we are still in Syria for the same reasons why Barack Hussein Obama sent US troops there ? Its a protracted geopolitcal conflict.

And the same career civil servants who formulated it sitting in the halls of CIA and NSC are still there, just in higher positions like GS 15 and SES.

And that is as good as an answer as any.

Just a damning one. :)

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Preventing further development of Syrian oil fields, and limit the production of existing fields. With improving technology, too much oil is available in the world for the banksters who have made big loans to existing oil fields in other parts of the world, so the banksters want to keep oil price high in order to prevent the loan portfolio from collapsing . . . just like all the shenanigans disrupting automotive production in the past decade+: too many loans are riding on used cars being expensive instead of being dumped in favor of buying cheap new cars (cash-for-clunkers, electric cars, ridiculous mpg requirement, zero-emission, etc., all for the purpose of driving car prices higher, so consumers would have to take out more loans and keep servicing loans.)

Keep in mind, oil drilling is capital intensive initially and low marginal cost after drilling, similar to airline industry. JD Rockefeller discovered a century and half ago that in the absence of cartelization, the oil drillers would drive each other into bankruptcy simply because competition would drive oil price towards the low marginal cost, which wouldn't cover the high fixed cost.

Stealing oil would not be as profitable as driving oil price up 2x to 4x while capping oil production to a little less than existing demand.

socal2 says

9/11 Troofers constantly say 9/11 was an inside job so America could steal Middle East oil. Where the fuck is it? Our country's strategic oil reserve is lower than ever. Where are all the pipelines and thousands of US oil tankers taking oil back to the US? How much oil would we have to steal just to cover the mobilization costs of bringing thousands of Americans and military gear to Iraq in the first year?

Also, thought all the Globalhomo NWO is all about EV's and getting America off oil? Why would they all be in on this?

Morons want us to believe it was easier to create a MASSIVE conspiracy to kill thousands of Americans at home and thousands more people abroad to get Iraqi oil - as opposed to beating Environmentalists so we can drill for more oil at home? America has more energy reserves then we know what do with.

The banksters' goal is not making oil cheap and more available to Americans, but making oil expensive, so the petro-dollar can be worthwhile. Invasion of Iraq was not to steal their oil (using a puppet local regime is always more cost-effective than having US marines standing over an oil well over there), but to stop / disrupt production/export, so that oil price can be kept higher. 9-11 and invasion of Iraq were planned when oil price was near bottom below $10/bbl and gasoline price around $1/gallon or less.

Reality says

so that oil price can be kept higher

The war with Iran that they are conjuring will certainly gratify them then, when the Straight of Hormuz is inevitably closed.
$300 oil and a global 'depression' for them to feast on.

PeopleUnited says

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says

some anti russia geopolitical chess move

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says

i just know russia backs syria.

Exactly. And Oceana has always been at war with EastAsia! Right Winston?

Ah, poor little USSR suffering from eeeevil Merica again.... I'm old enough to remember that there were no Red Army in Syria until Obongo's Sec of State John Kerry invited the fuckers in. You guys were on this site back then, so not too young to remember these facts... Is it Alzheimer kicking in already?

Reality says

The banksters' goal is not making oil cheap and more available to Americans, but making oil expensive, so the petro-dollar can be worthwhile. Invasion of Iraq was not to steal their oil (using a puppet local regime is always more cost-effective than having US marines standing over an oil well over there), but to stop / disrupt production/export, so that oil price can be kept higher. 9-11 and invasion of Iraq were planned when oil price was near bottom below $10/bbl and gasoline price around $1/gallon or less.

FFS - the spinning and spinning. Do you guys ever get dizzy pushing Islamist and Commie prop?

It is no longer: "9/11 was an inside job so we could go to war for oil"?
It is now: "9/11 was an inside job so we could go to war and make oil super expensive!"?

America is one of the biggest consumers of oil on the planet. As if higher energy prices from OPEC would not have a massive negative impact on the US economy, interest rates and bank's balance sheets?

Also, expensive oil would only prop up Russia, Venezuela and OPEC.

Make it all make sense!

https://x.com/JackPosobiec/status/1862934557332304075

Only in the Middle East can you have the Hegelian Dialectic operating as a twenty way instead of the customary two way. Larry of Arabia spins in his grave.

I guess you could call it the Hegelian Calculus where summations bob and weave in the multiplicity of tribal Hatfield and McCoys. Mossad and CIA ISIS and Al Qaida are the synthesized party crashers.

Pick a tribe, any fucking tribe, and arm it against all others (with God exclusively on your side, of course).

In addition to stealing and dominating criminal enterprises and resource theft at the crossroads, the Middle East is also a treasure trove of occult records of ancient technologies. The Bush false flags on Iraq were to steal gold, oil and to plunder ancient texts and artifacts, as the Nazis had done through the Ahnenerbe.

Of course, as we know, the Bush's aren't Americans, they are Nazis with American accents.

The problem with "The Other Side" is that it's Western facing propaganda only has two Satans to blame. It doesn't want to talk about the Third Satan it fears, the one that has always been at odds with Persia and sees itself as the Vanguard of Sunni Defense.

The Turks

Killing sand niggers for the benefit of the jews? What do I know I'm just a white trash cracker.

At least the Turks know how to create a first class vacation destination in Turks and Caicos Islands. (Yes, I know, I am going all AOC).

Ceffer says

At least the Turks know how to create a first class vacation destination in Turks and Caicos Islands. (Yes, I know, I am going all AOC).

All kidding aside, Antolia in southern Turkey is an excellent vacation destination.

The insurgents in Aleppo include Turkmen, Kurds, as well as Sunnis.

Nobody's MSM really covers the huge mess that is the neverending Syrian Civil War.

Every Hegelian antipodes requires a good sponsor with assets, comms and armaments:

https://t.me/hkitabayashi/3115

And Qatar, Iran, Turkey, etc. It's a free for all. Russia and Iran are propping up Holy Lion Assad, whom Syrians have voted as President (along with daddy) for ~50 years

Here's a group backed by Turkey:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahrar_al-Sharqiya

Turkey and Qatar:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Nusra_Front

Saudi Arabia and Turkey:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahrar_al-Sham

The last group is the one that entered Aleppo.

Internalized Leftism: "It's only the USA that funds insurgents and does bad things".

The Turks whacked out an Iranian Propagandist-Spy working for PressTV and Iran and Qatar moaned about it

cia trying back to overthrow assad, just like before. infinite wars brought to us by people never elected. cia director is an asshole.

So, here is a detailed chart, to make sure you remain thoroughly confused about the situation in Syria.

So, the Turkish Ottoman ambitious thugs are trying to kill the Kurdish thugs and the Shia thugs. The Shia thugs are trying to kill all the other thugs. The Sunni Arab thugs are generally trying to kill the Shia thugs on principle and Iranian support Shia thugs. The Kurdish thugs are trying to kill the Turkish thugs. The CIA and Mossad thugs have established fake Muslim groups to kill all the other thugs, or see anyway that all the other thugs are always at each other’s throats so they can steal oil. The Russian thugs generally support the Shia thugs and Iranian thugs( who support the formal Syrian government thugs for convenience even though the Syrians are generally Sunni thugs) so that maybe they can get some stolen oil franchises, too. On top of it all, many Turkish Muslim thugs are crypto Sabbatean Frankist Jews pretending to be Muslims so they don't get their heads cut off.
The HTS thugs are currently stabbing the Kurdish thugs in the back after pretending to be sympathetic allies.

I hope that clears everything up, but don’t bomb me if I’m wrong.

Erdogan got tired of waiting for Ass-add and his KGB master to hold their end of Astana agreements and relieve him from hosting several millions of Syrian refugees on his soil so he gave green light for his and Quatari proxies to do some enforcement.

But what's new here? Soviets have never held their side of any agreement with anyone. Ever.

Our tax dollars at work again. Syria was the next step on the 'march to Iran' series of intended state implosions from Libya in the Middle East. It's not cooperating with the implosion.

https://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=248999

https://t.co/o7cTpCu0hM

Amazing, it’s like a blitz of bad State Dept and CIA plans, all hatching simultaneously because they know support is gone come Jan 20th. In one week we have pseudo-Maidan in Georgia, an attempted coup in South Korea, and “Syrian rebels” back in Aleppo. You can’t be cynical enough for these clowns. The theme as ever is to isolate Russia and remove politicians who might be neutral or favorable to Putin. Georgia, Korea, and Syria all have conservative presidents (including the winner of Georgia’s recent election), and border or have strategic interest for Russia.

https://t.me/hkitabayashi/3129